Buster Posey Career Highlights: 6× All-Star (2012, 2013, 2015-2018) 3× World Series champion (2010, 2012, 2014) NL MVP (2012) NL Rookie of the Year (2010) Gold Glove Award (2016) 4× Silver Slugger Award (2012, 2014, 2015, 2017) NL Hank Aaron Award (2012) NL Comeback Player of the Year (2012) NL batting champion (2012) Also caught 2 No Hitters and 1 Perfect game. And he's having another All Star year this season. Buster Posey is definitely a Hall of Famer.
Agreed Incredibly accomplished player but has to play at least 3 more seasons to solidify it IMO which he more than likely will. So Russos argument is just silly
Only thing hurting him are the hardcore sabermetrics, which is slowly slowly taking over HOF voting (mostly for the better imo), and his WAR/WRC+ and other advanced stats are very good but not quite HOF, yet. Also, Historically Catchers have always been screwed by this exact "He wasn't great for long enough" because they literally can't be due to the toll the position takes on their body (Exceptions being Molina, Pudge, Mauer..etc). But yeah, Buster should make it, but he might get screwed by sabermetrics and his position being harder than everyone elses
Russo is correct and he’s a giant fan so where does posada stand he should be there n there more RBI’s and home runs 4 rings 5 all stars gold gloves catching no hitters don’t get u in the hof he’s so overrated is num and longevity more home runs and RBI’s and remember the reason why posada don’t have a mvb is because he didn’t have to deal with mauer Ortiz and. Arod who posey had to deal with no one cause pujos left pls no way he’s a hof
@@jfallon2406 So heres the thing lad, Posada never won a gold glove, doesn't have an mvp, only has 1 more WS than posey, and only has 1 more silver slugger than posey. And he only has about 200 more hits than posey in 5 extra years played, plus Posey just passed him in WAR. I will absolutely give you HRs, and I will conceed Posada's era of players was greater in regards to the hitters, but I don't think you can really look at their resumes with a straight face and say Posada was better unless you're an uneducated goof. But I also think it's some BS he fell off after 1 year and I think got screwed because he was a catcher.
As one of many fans that had the great honor of following his entire career, there is no doubt that he sits atop the podium amongst the greatest to ever do it. He will have a statue outside the ballpark one day, as his character and leadership on the field and in the locker room match or even exceed his accomplishments on the field.
When exactly did he fall off the map? He had one poor season in 2019 and opted out in 2020... you’re gonna fault the guy for that? This argument by Russo is Skip Bayless level nonsense
If Posey played for the Dodgers (THANK GOD THAT DIDNT HAPPEN) he would have been called a HOF inductee from his rookie year. That's MLB network for ya.
Everybody knows that All Star appearances don't determine how good a player is, was or will be, a lot of the time, the player picked gets hurt or plays poor in the second half of the season after the All Star Break, but on Baseball reference it will make him seem like he had a good season and most fans don't know how to vote for players anyway
For the most part, I agree with the length of time that plays a major part for most position players, however there is one position that length of time should not be a factor, and that is catcher. The amount of wear and tear on your body as a catcher should be taken in consideration and Buster has had more than his fare share of being hit.
Met Brian Kenny at The Mandaly Bay in Vegas and he couldn’t have been a nicer and more down to earth guy. He truly loves sports and it comes out when you talk to him, even without the camera on.
The people in these comments talking about him not having 1500 hits like he didn’t contribute IMMENSELY in so many other ways. Even with that he has a higher batting average than 12/15 catchers in the hall. Best catcher of his generation with a list of accolades to match and 3 WS titles. Caught 3 no-nos and a perfect game as well.
Russo has to realize posey as a catcher had a demanding role.even non giant fans agree that posey should be in the hall of fame.he was a great player and a class act.
A point not being made is the tremendous impact of Posey's role as team captain, frm his rookie season onward. Analytics cannot fully factor in the psychological, mental, behavioral effects of Posey's influence on individual players & the entire Giants team as a unified whole. Without that daily, cumulative influence (in addition to all his contributions on the field), there'd be no Giants WS championships without Posey. Much less three in five seasons. His value was far, far more than the numbers alone can attest. Manager Bochy, the Giants front office, ownership & the entire Giants team knew that -- year after year after year. Plus, I think that catchers should be evaluated on a different scale of longevity-expectations, relative to non-catchers. On that basis & more, it's my view that voting Posey into the HOF would NOT lower the standard of HOF entry-qualifications for catchers -- where primary stat-quantifiable & secondary implicit criteria are weighed in due balance. Indeed, the bar would not only be maintained, as it should be. But the qualifying spectrum of HOF greatness among catchers would be reinforced, enriched & deepened. That, versus HOF standards being recklessly, foolishly compromised or diminished. Also, for added perspective, what might HOF catchers think (privately or publicly) if Posey's name was next to theirs? Moreover, if integrity of baseball character was itself an explicit benchmark (e.g., Pete Rose, a clear fail; Barry Bonds, a far more complicated "political" judgment), a large number of players, going forward, wouldn't make it in. And not just on the basis of artificial chemistry, etc. If, for the sake of obvious argument here, a high-performing player of longstanding is fairly & justly convicted of, say, serial sexual assault & battery, rape, murder and/or child molestation -- and who offers no genuine apology, embodies no sincere remorse & contrition, and demonstrates no redemptive corrections & actions consistently & voluntarily over a span of 20+ years -- in what reality do we live, to think such a player would be voted into the HOF, or even be put on the ballot? And how unfair would that be to other HOF candidates, including those who wait just as long? So, is character integrity a fair consideration, or even relevant, going forward? It's a moot question. Because it boils down to a judgment call, either way. Just as Rose's & Bonds's respective cases go. Point being: whether one likes it or not, it's not exclusively, or always, about the stats. And we know it. In Posey's case, his integrity AND field-performance translated into truly historic, record-book wins across the board. (This includes Matt Cain's Perfect Game, which was only the 22nd such achievement in MLB history & the first in Giants' franchise history. And also Tim Lincecum's two No-Hitters.) Seriously, given his relatively shorter career span, all that Posey accomplished is insane. The guy achieved more than most players do in 20+ years in the game. Unbelievable. The man even took what could've easily been a career-ending trainwreck at home plate, catalyzing a new rule for the greater safety of all catchers. How many players' careers will be saved as a result? How many will be saved from permanent, life-function devastating, traumatic brain injury or paralysis? Plenty. But even one would more than matter. Yes, it was an accident. But would MLB have even seriously considered such a major change had Posey not been such a valued, admired & respected player? Plenty of voices were critical of any rule change whatsoever, but concerns about the game being compromised have not materialized. The rule was quickly accepted, and was soon the norm. And it set a key precedent for other organized sports -- professional or amateur -- to institute guidelines, procedures & practices that prevent, minimize, or quickly respond, medically, to brain concussions. Life-debilitating traumatic brain injuries are what retired pro-football players have been battling for compensation for -- for decades. Their cause was given due & greater public attention in the aftermath of media coverage on Posey's injury. So, had the catcher been less admired & thus less widely recognized than Posey, would the public spotlight cast on the accident been sufficiently compelling for MLB to act & follow through? I think, not. Integrity & respect have far-reaching positive influence beyond the interests of the individual player, even beyond the game itself. How many careers in MLB can testify to that? Posey's career is HOF worthy on so many levels. Including ones never accomplished before. With Posey, the entire game comes into focus, not just his individual accomplishments. Few are the players of whom the same can be said. From virtually day one as a rookie, Posey earned the respect of everyone in his ballclub. And, not long thereafter, the respect of everyone in baseball, and among the game's fans everywhere. He did this by being a great player. With total dedication & utter professionalism. A player who, above all else (including himself), respected The Game. He also holds rank in the game's other elite class: of truly decent & humble players, in how they treat e.v.e.r.y.o.n.e. In how they go the extra mile for teammates & others. Both on & off the field. And throughout their lives, not just when the media & public are looking. In this, another elite player comes to mind. The phenomenal, singular Yogi Berra. He who, in my opinion, "outcaught" anyone. Buster Posey. Into the HOF. 1st ballot.
I think that Buster Posey is a hall of famer, even though that 1,500 career hits might seem a little low amount of hits. Then, I;m thinking here if Buster Posey is a hall of famer then Dustin Pedroia should be a hall of famer as well. Dustin Pedroia MVP,, 4 x All Star, ROY, 2 x World Series, 4 Gold Gloves, a Silver Slugger, just above 1,800 career hits, over 300 hits more than Posey and a .299 career batting average. So he was a little bit short in hits as he couldn't reach 2,000 career hits, but it was basically the same with Posey. Pedroia's career war was 51.9 too, so he should be seriously considered as well if Posey is a shoe in.
Just looking at HR and RBIs is a mistake when looking at Posey, so much more value in the other aspects of his game along with his huge list of accolades and WS championships. Easy HOF inductee
@ericwisniewski2636 Jorge Posada won 4 WS as a catcher, what's your point? All of Posada's numbers are better than Poseys yet he'll never get in. Just like Buster.
@@ChrisP-in8qr Posey has a better avg, better OPS+, better dWAR/bWAR, An MVP, 2 more all star appearances, rookie of the year, a gold glove, better defensive player, and has one less WS ring at 3 instead of 4. I personally think Posada should be in the hall and it’s ridiculous he was dropped off. However standards for HOF , Cy Young’s etc. has changed over the years and in my opinion Posey will 100 percent be in the hall.
@@ChrisP-in8qr also mentioning WS wasn’t supposed to be a “GOTCHA” thing I was just throwing that in their along with his personal list of accolades. Obviously that’s not what makes someone get in the hall BUT being the most valuable person on a team that won 3 times definitely helps.
The clown really said he only had 4 good years, then changed it to 2-3 but don't count 2010. He just said that to get views and create controversy for his show. Nothing he said has any validity.
that's why mad dog is out of touch with this sport. he can stay with nfl. we can tell when someone is talking about baseball mostly because of reading, NOT passion. Kenny is right. JUst like Tim Lincecum is a HoF.
@@ChrisP-in8qrI think you and the other guy are not taking into account all the other value Posey has and how HOF induction is changing. Imo he will easily be in the HOF
@ericwisniewski2636 if Posey gets in that let Josh Hamilton as well. Josh carried 2 Ranger teams on his hack to 2 World Series. Posey was good, but Hamilton was a game changer.
@@ChrisP-in8qr I would argue that Posey was also a game changer, idk man the way he called games made pitchers better, his defense was absolutely nuts, and as a catcher his avg among other offensive stats are very much above average. There’s so much to Posey that doesn’t show in the numbers and even the numbers are good. Same with Molina tho there’s a reason he was called a pitcher whisperer, Posey had that along with superior offense and I believe they should both be HOF. I would agree that Hamilton was a game changer but that’s not binary, both him and posey (also Molina) were. Watch some deep dive videos on Posey there’s more to him than the numbers, maybe you know that already tho idk I’m just yappin lol. Also there’s a lot of catchers that have been snubbed tbh but I think HOF voters and analytics in general are coming around to judging them by different metrics.
@ericwisniewski2636 I mean you could be right, he could get in. But man numbers is a factor. He has like 750 RBI's. I think the lowest RBI put thatbis in the HOF is Alan Trammel who has 1003 RBI's So if they let guys like Posey in.. then guys like Hamilton and Garvey deserve to be in there just as well
I don't know. I agree that catchers deserve more credit for no hitters, but I'm not sure they deserved THAT much credit. Ultimately the pitchers has to throw the pitches to get the batter out. Also, how do you track how many pitches the catcher wanted that the pitcher shook off? Definitely a slippery slope. Should we start giving catchers credit for wins too?
@@williegriffeyjr8668 First off that's only relevant for a third strike. Second why don't we give the first baseman more credit too? If a pitcher gets eight strikeouts and you think the catcher should get credit for not bobbling a third strike, then based on that logic you should give the first baseball credit if he had eight putouts without bobbling the throw to first base? What you said makes no sense.
I'm with Dog not long enough, a great player not a Hall of Famer in my opinion. I'm sorry great catching to me Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella, Carlton Fisk, Bill Dicky. Stop it right there Posey isnt there Ted Simmons event isn't, Mike Piazza was a hitter who was a terrible catcher. This is the elite players Buster Posey wasnt elite Johnny Bench was.
Of the players you mentioned, Fisk was the most recent and retired 30 years ago. You’re telling me that the best catcher of his generation doesn’t deserve to be in the HOF? Get out of here
Also, how on earth do you claim that Campanella had a better career than Buster? On the offensive side, Buster had 80 more hits in 120 less plate appearances and a 20 point higher average. He also had a 44.8 career WAR compared to Roy’s 41.8 in 6 fewer seasons. On the defensive side, Buster had a .995 fielding % compared to Roy’s .987, and 60 fewer errors. How are they not comparable?
It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Hits. His accomplishments and accolades are just undeniable. And the time in which he took to do it? Incredible. He would have hit 2k easily if he chose to stay. Shit look at his average, he ended his final year with like .304 or something like that. He's always been a good hitter...not average....good. And he goes yard often enough. His leadership skills and baseball intelligence were off the damn charts, he made pitchers better. He's definitely in there, and so is Molina.
@@mr.nuna916 listen brother oh, I'm not saying anything about Buster Posey as a bad reminder yes he has these acolytes but his career was just not long enough. It's only short until 12 years and I'm kind of thinking to myself if we're going to really charge a guy for a short. Of time then we must remove Kirby Puckett and Sandy Koufax at the hall of fame. Because those guys has over 2000 rather is base-hits or strikeouts
@@ceciljustice7283you can’t hold Kirby or Sandy against Buster. He was the single best catcher of his era. The HOF has a weird bias against catcher, but he absolutely deserves to be in. Would you consider Buster or Scott Rolen to have been a greater player at their position?
Buster Posey Career Highlights:
6× All-Star (2012, 2013, 2015-2018)
3× World Series champion (2010, 2012, 2014)
NL MVP (2012)
NL Rookie of the Year (2010)
Gold Glove Award (2016)
4× Silver Slugger Award (2012, 2014, 2015, 2017)
NL Hank Aaron Award (2012)
NL Comeback Player of the Year (2012)
NL batting champion (2012)
Also caught 2 No Hitters and 1 Perfect game.
And he's having another All Star year this season. Buster Posey is definitely a Hall of Famer.
Agreed Incredibly accomplished player but has to play at least 3 more seasons to solidify it IMO which he more than likely will. So Russos argument is just silly
7x All-Star now =)
Only thing hurting him are the hardcore sabermetrics, which is slowly slowly taking over HOF voting (mostly for the better imo), and his WAR/WRC+ and other advanced stats are very good but not quite HOF, yet. Also, Historically Catchers have always been screwed by this exact "He wasn't great for long enough" because they literally can't be due to the toll the position takes on their body (Exceptions being Molina, Pudge, Mauer..etc). But yeah, Buster should make it, but he might get screwed by sabermetrics and his position being harder than everyone elses
Russo is correct and he’s a giant fan so where does posada stand he should be there n there more RBI’s and home runs 4 rings 5 all stars gold gloves catching no hitters don’t get u in the hof he’s so overrated is num and longevity more home runs and RBI’s and remember the reason why posada don’t have a mvb is because he didn’t have to deal with mauer Ortiz and. Arod who posey had to deal with no one cause pujos left pls no way he’s a hof
@@jfallon2406 So heres the thing lad, Posada never won a gold glove, doesn't have an mvp, only has 1 more WS than posey, and only has 1 more silver slugger than posey. And he only has about 200 more hits than posey in 5 extra years played, plus Posey just passed him in WAR. I will absolutely give you HRs, and I will conceed Posada's era of players was greater in regards to the hitters, but I don't think you can really look at their resumes with a straight face and say Posada was better unless you're an uneducated goof. But I also think it's some BS he fell off after 1 year and I think got screwed because he was a catcher.
He is one of the greatest catchers to ever live ❤️
As one of many fans that had the great honor of following his entire career, there is no doubt that he sits atop the podium amongst the greatest to ever do it.
He will have a statue outside the ballpark one day, as his character and leadership on the field and in the locker room match or even exceed his accomplishments on the field.
“Don’t count 2010” because you know that when we count 2010 your logic goes out the window? Dude is a hall of famer
Such a dumb comment by Russo. Why the hell wouldn't one count 2010?
@@Splifftone Cause then his whole logic goes out the window.
When exactly did he fall off the map? He had one poor season in 2019 and opted out in 2020... you’re gonna fault the guy for that? This argument by Russo is Skip Bayless level nonsense
Hes been one of the top catchers in baseball throughout the decade
If Posey played for the Dodgers (THANK GOD THAT DIDNT HAPPEN) he would have been called a HOF inductee from his rookie year. That's MLB network for ya.
He... he's a 7x all star, 6x when this was made. That's a little more than 4 good years....
Everybody knows that All Star appearances don't determine how good a player is, was or will be, a lot of the time, the player picked gets hurt or plays poor in the second half of the season after the All Star Break, but on Baseball reference it will make him seem like he had a good season and most fans don't know how to vote for players anyway
@@rjperfetto584 well look at the seasons connected to those. They were all good seasons. Buster Deserves to be on the Ballot
For the most part, I agree with the length of time that plays a major part for most position players, however there is one position that length of time should not be a factor, and that is catcher. The amount of wear and tear on your body as a catcher should be taken in consideration and Buster has had more than his fare share of being hit.
“Stop trying to put everyone in the HOF because you wanna have a weekend” lol
Met Brian Kenny at The Mandaly Bay in Vegas and he couldn’t have been a nicer and more down to earth guy. He truly loves sports and it comes out when you talk to him, even without the camera on.
4 very good seasons? I'd say he's had a few more than that. 6 or 7.
6 or 7 is not that impressive, not when your talking HOF
No, 4 good seasons is correct. Debatable on 6 and 7.
@@georgeslupski5987yeah but what he did in those seasons is HOF
McCutchen was not the best player in the NL for three years. He was top 3 for 4 years.
Agreed, they are ridiculously watering it down because the writers are too stubborn to put the elite players in because of anabolic suspicion
The people in these comments talking about him not having 1500 hits like he didn’t contribute IMMENSELY in so many other ways. Even with that he has a higher batting average than 12/15 catchers in the hall. Best catcher of his generation with a list of accolades to match and 3 WS titles. Caught 3 no-nos and a perfect game as well.
Russo has to realize posey as a catcher had a demanding role.even non giant fans agree that posey should be in the hall of fame.he was a great player and a class act.
A point not being made is the tremendous impact of Posey's role as team captain, frm his rookie season onward.
Analytics cannot fully factor in the psychological, mental, behavioral effects of Posey's influence on individual players & the entire Giants team as a unified whole. Without that daily, cumulative influence (in addition to all his contributions on the field), there'd be no Giants WS championships without Posey. Much less three in five seasons.
His value was far, far more than the numbers alone can attest. Manager Bochy, the Giants front office, ownership & the entire Giants team knew that -- year after year after year.
Plus, I think that catchers should be evaluated on a different scale of longevity-expectations, relative to non-catchers.
On that basis & more, it's my view that voting Posey into the HOF would NOT lower the standard of HOF entry-qualifications for catchers -- where primary stat-quantifiable & secondary implicit criteria are weighed in due balance.
Indeed, the bar would not only be maintained, as it should be. But the qualifying spectrum of HOF greatness among catchers would be reinforced, enriched & deepened. That, versus HOF standards being recklessly, foolishly compromised or diminished.
Also, for added perspective, what might HOF catchers think (privately or publicly) if Posey's name was next to theirs?
Moreover, if integrity of baseball character was itself an explicit benchmark (e.g., Pete Rose, a clear fail; Barry Bonds, a far more complicated "political" judgment), a large number of players, going forward, wouldn't make it in. And not just on the basis of artificial chemistry, etc.
If, for the sake of obvious argument here, a high-performing player of longstanding is fairly & justly convicted of, say, serial sexual assault & battery, rape, murder and/or child molestation -- and who offers no genuine apology, embodies no sincere remorse & contrition, and demonstrates no redemptive corrections & actions consistently & voluntarily over a span of 20+ years -- in what reality do we live, to think such a player would be voted into the HOF, or even be put on the ballot? And how unfair would that be to other HOF candidates, including those who wait just as long?
So, is character integrity a fair consideration, or even relevant, going forward? It's a moot question. Because it boils down to a judgment call, either way. Just as Rose's & Bonds's respective cases go.
Point being: whether one likes it or not, it's not exclusively, or always, about the stats. And we know it.
In Posey's case, his integrity AND field-performance translated into truly historic, record-book wins across the board. (This includes Matt Cain's Perfect Game, which was only the 22nd such achievement in MLB history & the first in Giants' franchise history. And also Tim Lincecum's two No-Hitters.)
Seriously, given his relatively shorter career span, all that Posey accomplished is insane. The guy achieved more than most players do in 20+ years in the game. Unbelievable.
The man even took what could've easily been a career-ending trainwreck at home plate, catalyzing a new rule for the greater safety of all catchers. How many players' careers will be saved as a result? How many will be saved from permanent, life-function devastating, traumatic brain injury or paralysis? Plenty. But even one would more than matter.
Yes, it was an accident. But would MLB have even seriously considered such a major change had Posey not been such a valued, admired & respected player?
Plenty of voices were critical of any rule change whatsoever, but concerns about the game being compromised have not materialized. The rule was quickly accepted, and was soon the norm. And it set a key precedent for other organized sports -- professional or amateur -- to institute guidelines, procedures & practices that prevent, minimize, or quickly respond, medically, to brain concussions.
Life-debilitating traumatic brain injuries are what retired pro-football players have been battling for compensation for -- for decades. Their cause was given due & greater public attention in the aftermath of media coverage on Posey's injury.
So, had the catcher been less admired & thus less widely recognized than Posey, would the public spotlight cast on the accident been sufficiently compelling for MLB to act & follow through? I think, not.
Integrity & respect have far-reaching positive influence beyond the interests of the individual player, even beyond the game itself. How many careers in MLB can testify to that?
Posey's career is HOF worthy on so many levels. Including ones never accomplished before.
With Posey, the entire game comes into focus, not just his individual accomplishments. Few are the players of whom the same can be said.
From virtually day one as a rookie, Posey earned the respect of everyone in his ballclub. And, not long thereafter, the respect of everyone in baseball, and among the game's fans everywhere. He did this by being a great player. With total dedication & utter professionalism. A player who, above all else (including himself), respected The Game.
He also holds rank in the game's other elite class: of truly decent & humble players, in how they treat e.v.e.r.y.o.n.e. In how they go the extra mile for teammates & others. Both on & off the field. And throughout their lives, not just when the media & public are looking.
In this, another elite player comes to mind. The phenomenal, singular Yogi Berra. He who, in my opinion, "outcaught" anyone.
Buster Posey.
Into the HOF.
1st ballot.
Now they want to turn it into the Hall Of Good for a few seasons.
I think that Buster Posey is a hall of famer, even though that 1,500 career hits might seem a little low amount of hits. Then, I;m thinking here if Buster Posey is a hall of famer then Dustin Pedroia should be a hall of famer as well. Dustin Pedroia MVP,, 4 x All Star, ROY, 2 x World Series, 4 Gold Gloves, a Silver Slugger, just above 1,800 career hits, over 300 hits more than Posey and a .299 career batting average. So he was a little bit short in hits as he couldn't reach 2,000 career hits, but it was basically the same with Posey. Pedroia's career war was 51.9 too, so he should be seriously considered as well if Posey is a shoe in.
Agreed 100 percent.
Agreed 100 percent
From 2010-2021, spanning his entire career, only Mike Trout has a higher FanGraphs WAR than Buster Posey.
Kenny is so funny. He has no opinion of his own. Just goes by what a machine tells him.
The Hall of Fame is turning into the Hall of Pretty Good
Agreed, but Buster is not an example of this. He belongs in the Hall and it’s not a hard decision
hall of slightly above average. There are war warriors that want tony fernandez in. Tony fuckin Fernandez.
That’s how Alan Trammel got in. Sabr is the worst thing to ever happen to baseball
When people talking like this you know then never played baseball or the position.
Regarding the HoF Kenny is like a democrat on immigration policy: let everybody in!
I think of him as the Jeter of catchers.
He will end up in the HOF when all is said and done.
Yes but, Posey has an MVP and Jeter retired MVPless. Not saying that Jeter isn't a HOFer but Buster mos def should be too.
@@dustinharrison3491 jeter got robbed in 06
Facts...but Jeter was definitely an MVP. He led that team. I'm a Giants fan, but I respect the game.
Wowww this Kenny is what is ruining the aura of Hall Of Fame Candidates
Avg 12 hrs and 64 rbi per year. He is above avg catcher every year he played, thats not HOF
100% agreed
Just looking at HR and RBIs is a mistake when looking at Posey, so much more value in the other aspects of his game along with his huge list of accolades and WS championships. Easy HOF inductee
@ericwisniewski2636 Jorge Posada won 4 WS as a catcher, what's your point? All of Posada's numbers are better than Poseys yet he'll never get in. Just like Buster.
@@ChrisP-in8qr Posey has a better avg, better OPS+, better dWAR/bWAR, An MVP, 2 more all star appearances, rookie of the year, a gold glove, better defensive player, and has one less WS ring at 3 instead of 4. I personally think Posada should be in the hall and it’s ridiculous he was dropped off. However standards for HOF , Cy Young’s etc. has changed over the years and in my opinion Posey will 100 percent be in the hall.
@@ChrisP-in8qr also mentioning WS wasn’t supposed to be a “GOTCHA” thing I was just throwing that in their along with his personal list of accolades. Obviously that’s not what makes someone get in the hall BUT being the most valuable person on a team that won 3 times definitely helps.
Mccutchen In the HOF 😂 good grief that takes away his credibility right there. Brian knows damn well he's not in.
The clown really said he only had 4 good years, then changed it to 2-3 but don't count 2010. He just said that to get views and create controversy for his show. Nothing he said has any validity.
He's a hall of famer, retired at the top of his game. I'm sad, but I understand.
that's why mad dog is out of touch with this sport. he can stay with nfl. we can tell when someone is talking about baseball mostly because of reading, NOT passion. Kenny is right. JUst like Tim Lincecum is a HoF.
Kenny is way off, and Lincecum didn't play long enough. He's no Koufax
Great player but his resume is short. No player since 1947 with less than 2000 hits has been inducted into the hof, Buster has 1500, good luck.
If your gonna let a guy in that has 150 home runs and 700 RBI's he better have a .340 avg... Posey doesn't. The guy was really good, but not great.
@@ChrisP-in8qrI think you and the other guy are not taking into account all the other value Posey has and how HOF induction is changing. Imo he will easily be in the HOF
@ericwisniewski2636 if Posey gets in that let Josh Hamilton as well. Josh carried 2 Ranger teams on his hack to 2 World Series. Posey was good, but Hamilton was a game changer.
@@ChrisP-in8qr I would argue that Posey was also a game changer, idk man the way he called games made pitchers better, his defense was absolutely nuts, and as a catcher his avg among other offensive stats are very much above average. There’s so much to Posey that doesn’t show in the numbers and even the numbers are good. Same with Molina tho there’s a reason he was called a pitcher whisperer, Posey had that along with superior offense and I believe they should both be HOF. I would agree that Hamilton was a game changer but that’s not binary, both him and posey (also Molina) were. Watch some deep dive videos on Posey there’s more to him than the numbers, maybe you know that already tho idk I’m just yappin lol. Also there’s a lot of catchers that have been snubbed tbh but I think HOF voters and analytics in general are coming around to judging them by different metrics.
@ericwisniewski2636 I mean you could be right, he could get in. But man numbers is a factor. He has like 750 RBI's. I think the lowest RBI put thatbis in the HOF is Alan Trammel who has 1003 RBI's So if they let guys like Posey in.. then guys like Hamilton and Garvey deserve to be in there just as well
Mayer isn't a Hall Of Famer either
Posey also caught 1 perfect game and 2 no hitters, that has to count.
I’ve never thought about that but that absolutely has to count for something.
I don't know. I agree that catchers deserve more credit for no hitters, but I'm not sure they deserved THAT much credit. Ultimately the pitchers has to throw the pitches to get the batter out. Also, how do you track how many pitches the catcher wanted that the pitcher shook off? Definitely a slippery slope. Should we start giving catchers credit for wins too?
@@Mistachill if the catcher bobbles a pitch in the dirt and a runner gets on base the perfect game goes out the window
@@williegriffeyjr8668 First off that's only relevant for a third strike. Second why don't we give the first baseman more credit too? If a pitcher gets eight strikeouts and you think the catcher should get credit for not bobbling a third strike, then based on that logic you should give the first baseball credit if he had eight putouts without bobbling the throw to first base? What you said makes no sense.
That's just luck or great games mostly by the pitcher, so well put Ron Hassey in since he caught 3 no hitters as well
Mad dog is the best
Russo is Wrong on this one ... Buster Posey is the Class of Baseball ... Buster Baseball is a CINCH HOF ...
Maier whoops
I'm with Dog not long enough, a great player not a Hall of Famer in my opinion. I'm sorry great catching to me Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella, Carlton Fisk, Bill Dicky.
Stop it right there Posey isnt there Ted Simmons event isn't, Mike Piazza was a hitter who was a terrible catcher. This is the elite players Buster Posey wasnt elite Johnny Bench was.
Of the players you mentioned, Fisk was the most recent and retired 30 years ago. You’re telling me that the best catcher of his generation doesn’t deserve to be in the HOF? Get out of here
Also, how on earth do you claim that Campanella had a better career than Buster? On the offensive side, Buster had 80 more hits in 120 less plate appearances and a 20 point higher average. He also had a 44.8 career WAR compared to Roy’s 41.8 in 6 fewer seasons. On the defensive side, Buster had a .995 fielding % compared to Roy’s .987, and 60 fewer errors. How are they not comparable?
Mad dog is a fool
How so? Brian's the one who thinks McKutchen has a HOF'er
I am not sure based on total stats. Also, he only hit .230 with 2 hr in World Series.
And won all 3
Posey's career has taken a similar trajectory to Mauer's.
What a clown. Posey walking in too the HOF.. make it make sense russo..
career is too short. 1500 hits not going to do it
It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Hits. His accomplishments and accolades are just undeniable. And the time in which he took to do it? Incredible. He would have hit 2k easily if he chose to stay. Shit look at his average, he ended his final year with like .304 or something like that. He's always been a good hitter...not average....good. And he goes yard often enough. His leadership skills and baseball intelligence were off the damn charts, he made pitchers better. He's definitely in there, and so is Molina.
@@mr.nuna916 listen brother oh, I'm not saying anything about Buster Posey as a bad reminder yes he has these acolytes but his career was just not long enough. It's only short until 12 years and I'm kind of thinking to myself if we're going to really charge a guy for a short. Of time then we must remove Kirby Puckett and Sandy Koufax at the hall of fame. Because those guys has over 2000 rather is base-hits or strikeouts
@@ceciljustice7283you can’t hold Kirby or Sandy against Buster. He was the single best catcher of his era. The HOF has a weird bias against catcher, but he absolutely deserves to be in. Would you consider Buster or Scott Rolen to have been a greater player at their position?
@@HenryPPMN I agree with you 100%. I don't see how Scott Rolen got in, he was okay but nobody ever mentioned he was a HOF.
Cooperstown every year it comes to his players and different positions. Fred McGriff should have been in along time ago.
Russo is a joke