Which Ex-NBA Players Are "SURVIVING" This New Era?
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its the purge, crime is legal for 12 hours… wyd?
Hiding
Diddy
Fucking every one
Bruh I don't know 😂
Doing unspeakable things to Rudy Gobert's body
Any great player from any era would be able to adapt to any era they in
Thank you for spitting facts
That’s why he said pulling them right from there prime
That’s just not what the video is be quiet
@@robbiekenyon1267 are you dumb he says it at 1:38 goofy
@@robbiekenyon1267 bro js Sybau🤣✌🏾
Although wilt may not be the best offensively in todays league considering his height, speed, and strength I think he would for SURE be a MENACE defensively
Wilt would be the best offensive plaYer by far. Do your research.
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 and bill russel hella athletic and quick definitely top 5 potential
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154he would be a stronger wemby
Rudy gobert with a 40 inch vert and can bench 350
Wilt had an elite postgame and was a fantastic passer for his size, easily a 25ppg scorer with 10 rebounds and 3 blocks.
Charles is literally just zion
With a jumper.
Not as athletic
He better than Zion fr
only about 60% less athletic and a better rebounder
@@migo.offa3060 is crazy but he had better moves and moved smoother, but yeah he couldn’t jump as high
Dwight won 4 years ago he not even old 😭
Probably talkin bout the magic Dwight Howard
Wembayamama is hilarious
Lol
Neither kg or ant are right the reality is somewhere in the middle both ways
Ant is obviously more right
@robbiekenyon1267 I don't think that's true. But even if it was. It would be due to better circumstances for the sport overall, advancements in technology, and the legacy of the older generation. Think about when these guys were growing and played basketball wasn't the most popular sport, nor was it something everyone was aiming for since childhood. Think how good they could be if they were trained to play since childhood every day and had modern workout methods it would be scary what they could do. I hate it when people try to make this a one to one comparison without context.
The game's changed depending on preferences that's a good or a bad thing. Scoring in the NBA is prioritized over anything else, which for some makes it feel cheaper and like defense is handicapped and stats mean less. 🤔
well i don’t think he actually meant to say there was zero skill besides jordan. but to an extent he is right, everybody around jordan was way less skilled than him. today there are role players doing the same layups and dunks that jordan did that literally blew people away back in the day. nowadays you can see someone do some jordan type layup every night during the regular season
@@robbiekenyon1267 LMAO this is why nobody takes modern day casuals seriously because yall 1. Love speaking on sh!t you know nothing about 2. Don't even know what words mean or how to rationalize 3. Are willing to propagate asinine narratives no matter how nonsensical as long as it feeds a bias ...
He said that NOBODY (that means Bird / Magic / Kareem / Ewing / Robinson / Dantley / Gervin / Hakeem / Shaq / Dr.J / Wilkins / Thomas / Hill / Hardaway / Miller / Drexler / Robertson / Moncrief / Kobe / KG / Pierce / AI / TMac etc. etc. etc.) BUT Michael Jordan had skill in his era... so that when Kobe entered the league that everyone was surprised (which isn't even true because Bryant didn't break out until during the 3-peat 6-7yrs into his career) .... but that EVERYONE TODAY has skill
Stop being a fanboy & use your brain. Wouldn't that mean that EVERYONE today skill-level is on the level of MICHAEL JORDAN & KOBE BRYANT... thanks for letting everyone know to never to take you (or Anthony Edwards) seriously in basketball discussion
@@rickystackss Who the hell is jumping from baseline to baseline through 2-3 defenders & triple-clutching a layup? Who is doing contested fingerolls? Who is switching hands mid-lay at full speed past legitimate rim protectors? Whose dunked on "every single big" in the NBA? Who has finished on a 180 lay back to basket? Who in the hell has faked a dunk into a lay whilst switching hands ALL IN AIR... go watch the game & stop watching box scores... nobody today stacks up to the defenders / rebounders / facilitators / slashers & finishers that existed +20yrs ago because they faced & destroyed real defenses
KG not only surviving he better in todays era. He was shooting that rock fore it became popular, and he’s winning DPOY from 2019-24
He also took the piss by shooting 2 centimetres inside the arc disregarding the 3 entirely.
@@S3verusMyGbecause of era if really encouraged two kg is turnin those long twos into three's if he played today now he probably never becomes a sniper beyond the arc but he definitely becomes respectable
Exactly kg waled so dudes like kd and especially Anthony Davis could run
Saying nobody survives 20 years ago is crazy considering that LeBron did survive 20 years ago
Learn how to read & comprehend. LeBron isn't from this era. KG said "modern players"
KG is def surviving in this era
he would be the embiid
@@earth2onion true
Kg is cooking 90% of the current NBA
@@earth2onion yea maybe like Giannis or smth like that
KG was Hakeem Olajuwon without the footwork... now use your imagination... top 5 easily
Only difference between the eras is the rule changes and tendencies of shots. If todays players got used to the rules of the 80s/90s, their handles, three point shots, and their own physicality would translate. Early generation players’ defensive games would be effectively scrubbed. They couldnt pack the paint, hand check, touch a person period when they take a shot. They would have to completely change their style of play. Todays players wouldnt have to change nearly as much. I agree with KG in the fact that he said players wouldnt survive the atmosphere, which is 100% correct. The consistant need to be on the court, staying connected with the team, push through small injuries like isiah thomas on one leg, or scotty pippen with his back. They had a tougher fighting spirit in most teams resulting in less games missed per season per player and so on. These teams were so cohesive in that they would fight for each other as we saw multiple times like malice at the palace and so on. I think superstars are less team oriented now and mostly care about their personal brand rather than their teams and working with them for a goal. Of course there are exceptions to this for both eras like Michael Jordan being very self centered and against his team at the beginning of his career or steph curry and what he had done for GSW as a team and as a franchise being one of the most unselfish players in nba history in my opinion. Ok enough curry glaze. Altogether, the tougher culture of the 90s is a harder culture to adapt to, and the more skilled and developed modern game is a harder game to adapt to 😌
I mostly agree with your take but just like the newer players bein able to adapt to the past eras a lot of players of the past would benefit greatly from this new era where the game is a lot more wise open three point shooting is more emphasized and pg's are allowed to shoot and try and score whenever they feel like so it works both ways also I don't see how the new gens handle translates when damn near half the dribble moves in their "bag" are called travels, carries, palming, etc. back in the 90's
honestly the thing that makes this convo irrelevant is the rule changes like seriously go back and watch a few championship games not highlights actual games you can see they was calling everything a travel and carry now those rules dont exist AI was getting cooked on every call cause his handles was to good they was shocked love the video
And that's what new fans all but refuses to include when we have these convos the game was so so much different back in the day because as you stated the rules were called a lot tighter like half the dribble/attack moves you see today you wouldn't have seen back in the day because they were considered a violation of some sort how do these new school players react when that step back into a small back pedal, or that dribble move where their hand goes completely under the ball, or the "gather" step are all not available to them as their now considered turnovers?? I say a lot of these dudes y'all ride like nobody in the 90's could deal wit him he'd be a monster if he played back then would get exposed playin under 90's rules
Jerry west a role player is the most casual shit I heard
realistically hes not in the g league today. bro played in the 60s against like 14 teams. still a legend but balls evolved too much imo
@@Dyl3423 wild so niggas like Alex cruso will be better than jerry west
@@Dyl3423bro stop it west was a legit six 4 underrated on ball defender and was known for his elite jump shooting in this spaced out era where shooting is so covered west may be better if he played today
@@johndavis9321nigga the average middle schooler dribbles better than Jerry west😐 stop bein ignorant and open your mind. Jerry west was great for his era but saying he would succeed in any other era is stupid. He literally dribbled with his palm
Rest in peace Jerry West
Ngl gang Jerry might be top 25 he had a burner
frfr he was letting that shit fly
Exactly and this was with no three point line could you imagine Jerry West in this era where offensive players are given all this extra space and are encouraged to take jumpers
Yeah but now imagine his defenders are people with a 7’2 wingspan, better defense and with a 40 inch vert..
@@DAAR53 I was wit u until the better defense.... Bro not everybody is jrue holiday on defense I know that
Entertaining ahh vid
Fr 😂
These videos be gas. Word To.
The bill take had me looking for the block button😭😭😭
0:00 Ant tweakin 💀😭
rodman at roleplayer is criminal
When bro said mj didn't had left hand i knew he was trolling😂😂😂
"Victoryomama"😂😂😂😂
It’s really hard to pick. Cuase shaq had harder competition but Jokic can just do more. Cause I definitely don’t see Jokic being able to beat the teams shaq beat cause if Kat can somewhat clamp Jokic then what do you think a 90s/2000s big man is really gonna do against him. I’d probably still pick Jokic because I feel like if you gave him a good team he’s gonna go crazy
Shaq had harder competition 😂😂😂 the nba is obviously the hardest it’s ever been, that is so clear
@@robbiekenyon1267 ??? Jokic got dogged on by the most inconsistent star in the league
@@S3verusMyG what
Maybe in the 90's but when Shaq was dominatin in LA the center position was arguably the weakest it had ever been
Shaq matched up against Jason Collins in an NBA Finals series
Isaiah Thomas is considered by some to be the second best player in the late 80/early 90s. And how the hell you put Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell? Who do you think you are Stephen A. Smith?
In the 90s??? You don’t know ball 😂😂
@@hmmmmmm6901 first of all I didn't say me, secondly wtf you want me to say the 80s? Ok but the Bad Boy Pistons ran from 1986-1992 so I don't see the problem in what I said.
@@RomaroBrandon coulda said early 90s late 80s tho i aint gon lie homie
@@Progen1A fixed it!
@@hmmmmmm6901 just delete youtube gng😭🙏
Total drama outro I’m loving it
12 diddy partys in 12 hours
Ild love for u to do discover discography on suicideboys
Jokic over shaq any day
Give up talking about basketball there no reality we’re Jokic will ever be better then shaq
@@temiadeyinka3675 except this one apparently
@@Tomato195please give me what you are smoking, jokic over shaq is fucking blasphemous
@@temiadeyinka3675JOKIC has more skills than Shaq.
Bird top 3 won 3 mvp in a row he better than embiid Shaui Tatum winning player in his prime
Low key agree but magic would eat with the amount of space on this generation
5:41 bill would be Hof Clamps
He wouldn’t even lock up AD
Day 19 of asking for Don Toliver discovering discography
These old heads paved the way, that being said, they also cannot fuck with todays players cause there is a clear shooting and skill discrepancy
Only difference is the rule changes and tendencies of shots. If todays players got used to the rules of the 80s/90s their handles, three point shots, and their own physicality would translate. Early generation players’ defensive games games would be effectively scrubbed. They couldnt pack the paint, hand check, touch a person period when they take a shot. They would have to completely change their style of play. Todays players wouldnt have to nearly as much. I agree with KG in the fact that he said players wouldnt survive the atmosphere, which is 100% correct. The consistant need to be on the court, push through small injuries like isiah thomas on one leg, or scotty pippen with his back. They had a tougher fighting spirit in most teams in that they would fight for each other as we saw multiple times like malice at the palace and so on. I think superstars are less team oriented now and only care about their personal brand rather than their teams and working with them for a goal. Of course there are exceptions to this for bothe eras. Altogether, the tougher culture of the 90s is a harder culture to adapt to, and the more skilled and developed modern game is a harder game to adapt to 😌
Shooting yeah I agree but other than that what skill are players today so much better at then generations past and don't say dribbling none of these dudes are survivin as ball handlers back in the day when travels, carries and palming were all called much tighter
Yooo treyyyy
Ninja really rattled off 10 point guards to say Isiah Thomas was not top 10 pg that’s called standing on business
I'm takin Isaiah over brunson sorry similar size while Isaiah was a better passer and comparable scorer
I deadass clicked off on the MJ part😂
My fav part is the freestyles
Dwight Howard diddy of nba
isiah thomas will mess wembanana up
watching a magic game
Wsg trey
Wilt probably top 10, but besides that, W list
jordan is like a more athletic and better kawhi
Not gonna lie, I one-hundred percent agree with this whole video. Like from top to bottom.
Nah Jerry West EATS in this era I don't care what nobody of u youngins say
Suuuuuure. 😂
Yeah I was bout to click off this video. Luckily I’m playing Wukong to distract me 😂
He played in 1748😂
Larry Bird would be joe Harris in this era lmao😂
U was spot on till u made the Jordan joke at the beginning of the video
Shaq might be like the 4th best center imo (like i'm taking Hakeem, Jokic and Kareem over him)
7:43 MY GOATS FULL NAME THO?!! 😂
New upload 🎉
Pistons would still be cooked in any era 😭
Russell today you're talking about Rudy Gobert level best rim protector and rebounder in the league, with like Sabonis/Embiid level of passing as a big, and great in transition. He's top 10 for sure at least. Alright nvm the Jerry West disrespect is way worse. "Little guard" dude is taller than Steph, Dame, Brunson, Maxey, Trae. Dude had five straight All-Defense selections, four first team. And was an incredible shooter regularly hitting outside shots without the line there. Playstyle actually pretty comparable to Kobe, but a better passer and a few inches shorter. On Stockton and Pierce, a lot of these are just not acknowledging their defense. TJ McConnel ain't never scratch miles within five all-defense picks. Pierce is a two way wing who can shoot, any team would love him in 2024.
He can barley dribble the ball
Ain’t no way bro said Paul Pierce is a 2-way wing/defender
if jerry west played today he wouldn’t be getting all defensive picks. there was 8 teams when he joined the league and like 17 or 18 when he left. plus he was playing against literal plumbers. if he tried to guard kyrie today he would have him burned at the stake for being a wizard
Todays nba. TODAYS 💀 3 second rule, hand checking, even the defense on jump shots is not nearly similar. Their defense would consistantly get them fouls and is not prioritized now. So no their defense wouldnt matter nearly as much as it did 💀💀💀
Lol they don't know bout the logo sh!t wild
U was missing Dikembe mutombo, he was tough back in the day
how about a top two-way players in the league video. 10, 12, maybe 15
u doin a quick review on lones or glokks new albums?
Damn you aint got the pass 8:11
The john Stockton downplay is wild.
he was nothing special
@Himmyjewett so we just going to ignore the steals record
@Himmyjewett assist record, .51 from the field, playing 82 games for 17 seasons, averaging 2.2 steals, and 10 assist. He basically Chris Paul that stayed with healthy Blake griffin for his entire career.
@lament3178 "Basically Chris Paul" except with worse shooting, worse athleticism, worse scoring bag, worse handles, worse IQ, and was guarding far worse players than cp3
@@notanfbiagent6835 I respectfully disagree
Comparing magic to ben simmons should be criminal
How ? Same bag
@@robbiekenyon1267 it just feels wrong
@@robbiekenyon1267 I do understand the argument
@@robbiekenyon1267 magic had a strap frm midrange
@@bill_b3ll4mySimmons used to aswell (*midrange*), but realistically passing isn’t cutting it. Every starting guard can pass and hit from midrange, however, nowadays they are bigger, stronger and faster with better defense
prime john stockton is tj mconnel
Bruh stop
Feel like Tmac would be too 5 minimum
In my opinion Jordan would be getting some many techs just for celebrating I blame that on refs
Mj would shoot 3's nowadays and average like 50 ppg
I still take Shaq or joker 😊
Paul pierce is literally just Jayson Tatum but for the thousands
7:42 Kareem couldn’t get shit done in the 70s ain’t no way that man gonna be top 3 played in the most depressing era of basketball
Getting trey
Magic top 10 not even 5 is nasty nasty work,Charles barkley at 20,Then isaiah thomas is barely a top 10 point guard,Then wilt top 20 oh nah this is why the old heads are always wildin cause you guys are disrespecting like crazy your casualness is showing man plumbers and firemen the average rookie salary in 1960 was 10k which is 85k in today's nba come on bruh
Wsg gang
Where would you have put Karl Malone and dirk?
Dirk is a superstar if he's plays today
4:42 and still not making out the first roundc
Wilt going to go crazy in this era 😂
same as bill russel buddy is averaging 30 rebounds in todays game he would lock up embiid and giannis
@@henrytester2534There’s no way u actually believe any old school player is locking up players like Giannis, Webanyama or Embiid for that part. Mf’s would event lock up Bam Adebayo
@@DAAR53 yes
Gimme jokic over shaq, imagine jokic on those Kobe teams
Kidnapping and torturing Rudy Gobert
Day 7 of asking for a xxxtentacion discovering discography
If you put "DominAyton" on Kg in todays league...... its a wrap, DA is crying in the locker room. Also as a pistons fan.... COME ON MAN, ZEKE 20+?? IM DELUSIONAL, BUT COME ON, GIVE HIM SOMETHING BETTER.
bro if giannis was in the 80's he would average 40 points and 20 rebounds and like 10 blocks a game
No he wouldn't he would constantly be in foul trouble cause all those times he runs over dudes tryna get to the back are getting called offensive fouls all the carries he gets away with today are also bein called and if he isn't with the right coach he isn't even being allowed to take the ball up like that so now he isn't averaging 40 (he would be a monster on defense tho and that's in any era)
Mike
KG
Dirk
Hakeem
Bird
Pete Maravich
Kareem
Just off top my head
1 hour gang
Ant wasn’t completely off base. Way more skill nowadays than when Jordan played. But KG smokin crack. And I love KG. But tf he mean “nobody is surviving” back then. Laughable
Kg definitely went a bit overboard but he wasn't all the way wrong take away all the carries and travels that the NBA pretty much never calls anymore allow defenders to really get physical and body these dudes and a lot of your favorite players of today are gettin exposed no cap also the skill gap is very overrated the only thing player today definitely do better than past eras is shooting especially three point shooting most players can barely dribble without carrying or palming the ball and hardly anyone nowadays knows how to operate with their back to the basket
No respect for OG players
Smh basketball got to be the only American sport where blatant disrespect of past eras and past generations is not only allowed but damn near encouraged
why there 6 players in top 3 😭😭
it’s where they’d rank today 😂
Mike Top 3✅
Dwight Top 5/Top 10 I ain’t mad at that
Tic Top 3/Top 5?? Nahh
Pip Top 10/Top 20?? Nahh
Magic Top 5 greatest pg all time/Top 10?? Nahh
TMac Top 10✅
Barkley Top 5/Top 20?? Nahh
Russell Top 20/Role player?? Nahh
Rodman Top 20/Role player?? Nahh
Akeem Top 3✅
Zeke 20+✅
Logo Role✅
Kareem Top 10/Top 3 i ain’t mad at that
Kobe Top 3✅
Bird Top 5/Top 10 I ain’t mad at that
Stockton Role✅
Duncan Top 5/Top 3 I ain’t mad at that
Truth Top 10/Top 20?? Nahh
Shaq Top 3✅
Wilt Top 10/Top 20 I ain’t mad at that
This convo is extremely inane.Where do the 90's finish and the "new era" begins? Pierce, Garnett, Bryant and Iverson where partly in a "post-90s" era that begun before 2000, when travels and carries became more tolerated (look at Pierce highlights, he carries all the time) - from then, "ball handle" had to change, accommodating what was then allowed to do, meaning that it's not that those before couldn't do it, but weren't allowed, so not anyone beside MJ and Kobe having skills or a left hand before 1998 (Ant's take) is simply unrealistic to argue. So in fact the whole era comparison should NOT revolve around best players, would they wouldn't they survive and still be greats, but role players, 6th men, not-star-starters, were they that bad? And no, they weren't. Steve Kerr? 90's role player, could handle and shoot, would improve his stats in today's game. Vinny del Negro, Sean Elliot, Kenny Smith (yes, that Kenny Smith), Jeff Hornacek, Marciulionis, Dell Curry, Wesley Person, Nick Anderson, Dana Barros, BJ Armstrong, Kendall Gill, Mookie Blaylock, Hershey Hawkins, I could go on and on, these guards were all but bad skilled, but since most of then weren't flashy, no one younger knows them, and seing stats and ppg you class them erroneously as weak and "not surviving". The bigs? It's even worse, because players like Smits, Ostertag, Divac, Sam Perkins, Moses Malone Olden Polynice, Matt Geiger were known to know how to shoot and pass but were made fun of, because they were too "weak" in the post to compete athletically against Shaq. The changes of game and rules would have made them better. Let's be true, look at the famous 96 Jazz-Rockets 6th playoff game where Stockton shot bricks and collects turnovers the first half to rally the charge the second one, this first half Ostertag leads the Jazz until injured, and Hornacek does not take all the 3s he can (when he takes them, he scores) even when open clearly because he was asked not to. It's not a skill standpoint. In today's reality, both would have even greater an asset. All takes comparing then and now are relying on lack of knowledge of game, training, and human versatility: people would have translated to another era whatever needed, and would have worked on what they would have had to. Stars may not have been the same, but you'd still have other ones to replace them.
All facts and not one opinion new fans just don't understand basketball was very different back in the day from how rules were enforced too which player archetypes were popular it's an almost nonsensical practice to take players who played in a different era when the overall philosophy on basketball was way different and plop them in a different era where the philosophy on basketball again is just much different and in the same breath it is nonsensical to take players today as is plop them in a past era where rules were enforced differently team structure was different etc. and just expect them to dominate because "huurrr playas todae r jus 2 advance"
Kobe glaze is crazy 😂
Would he not be the best who would be better? 😭
@@iratepizza647shai
@@iratepizza647 Luka
@@IM_HIMATh nah bro the disrespect is wild asf man you have Luka over peak Kobe 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@iratepizza647 yep very much stop glazing cuz he passed
I agree with the Kobe one fs Kobe the best player ever that aint even 🍆 🚴🏽
Steal a live stock of Percs and Xanax
Bill Russell is a slightly better Tyson Chandler
Love you bro but you just lost your ball knowledge credibility 😂
Jokic over shaq
how you got 6 guys in the top 3
load management
Magic gettin ripped every play def not top 10
Jokic > shaq
What Anthony Edwards was saying is absolutely right
Holy glaze is dick riding all you do is
So Chuck didn't HV skill
Hakeem didn't HV skill
Scottie Pippen
Reggie Miller
Tim Hardaway
Patrick Ewing
Karl Malone
John Stockton
None of those guys had skill are u crazy
And b4 u call me an old head I'm 15
@@brianchuksadizuedon’t waste your time with that guy that niggq is just dumb to say they had no skill is completely idiotic skill isn’t just tween hesi splash skill is being good at something defense is a skill passing is a skill rebounding is a skill shooting a skill finishing around the rim is a skill dribbling is a skill and player back , then could obviously do those things to say professional basketball player have no skills completely foolish and an ignorant, but seems most of y’all nigq are ignorant anyway, so there’s really matter
Don’t forget magic bird Kareem Abdul jabbar
But it wasn't like not even remotely swear a lot of you young dudes jus talk but never b sayin anything
Diddy
Diddys here
But bron in the 90s with MJ and bron would out shine Michael Jeffrey Jordan
Bron would do great in the 90s but he aint lasting 20 years tho. lack of doctors/technology would definitely affect his longevity
@@fordastreeets8019lack of doctors😂😂 it’s 1990 not 1690
@robbiekenyon1267 I don't think u realize how much Technology changed. Also LeBron relies alot on doctors. Yall make it seem like he is just naturally built to play for +20 years. I give Credit to LeBron for actually taking care of his body tho. But without the help of modern doctors, he is gonna have the same longevity as MJ & other NBA stars
LMAOOOOOO
Stop lying. If he flopping bad today imagine back then lmao.
Bro you can't rank players of highlight reels if that then Jalen green is the best player ever 😭
Do your research you don't know ball
Freaky with those rims is insane 😂😂😂
This was the most accurate list I’ve ever seen.
Yoooo
"WE DONE WIITH THE 90S 🗣🗣🗣!!!"
Oh man ur extremely sleep on Isiah Thomas he’d average 26 & 14 in todays era and he had insane handles and vision even for todays era sheesh he’s breaking hella ankles and ring chasing😭u too sleep top 5 entertaining player of his generation
Yeah he was good for his time not today, you got 7 footers with better handles