Cheng Man-ch'ing Tai Chi Sword Form

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @ered203
    @ered203 Год назад +2

    Wow! That was amazing; Flowing one technique into the next with no hesitation, no tension, no pressure to move on. The last move disappears into the following like water in a stream.
    Seriously. Go watch some of the other videos of people doing this form. I'm not against those people, but they each have a stilted energy in their own way. They all stop in certain places in order to regain their balance or prepare for the next technique. They each have tension and apprehension.
    This man is loose and completely at ease with that weapon. It doesn't even look like a weapon in his hands, but rather a part of his body. There was no difference in his hand or the movement of his knee or elbow than there was in the tip of the blade. Watch it again. That was special to witness. I am humbled.
    There is a saying, "It takes three lifetimes to master either the sword or the guitar." Just try and imagine how good this man would be after two more lifetimes working on this form.

    • @zatrusofnietzche2281
      @zatrusofnietzche2281 Год назад

      I replied the is "Loa Jian 63 form I think 🤔".
      Just completed it today but with more physically demanding movements.
      Not a complaint, we must adapt for our physical abilities.
      I'm 95% sure this "old Sword !"
      Look for my other replies.
      Can you confirm it's loa Jian 63 old sword form. I'm saving it that until I video myself (no way a tikkytokker , will be for posterity. To assist teaching

  • @pennymartin5770
    @pennymartin5770 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for posting this ... I particularly like the clean sword work ... you can see the precise cuts, deflections, etc.

  • @vicbaker8367
    @vicbaker8367 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for posting this. For those of us who try to learn traditional forms via RUclips, this is a very valuable resource. Unfortunately I see many instructors online who interpreted the rapid knee lift as “ kicking the sword “. Can’t think of any reason you’d want to kick your sword. I always advise my students to watch the traditional videos like this for tutorials. Americans tend to guess and restructure the form in different ways.

    • @Dragon71484
      @Dragon71484  4 года назад +1

      Glad to post it 👍 I wouldn't kick it either, that's silly....😜 Thanks for your kind comment Vic and thanks for watching too 😉 Take Care 😊

    • @zatrusofnietzche2281
      @zatrusofnietzche2281 Год назад

      I can understand kicking the base of a staff. I'm pretty good with a staff/ staffs etc and I do a lot of research around Tàijíquán.
      I think this is where this "error" comes from !
      In Chinese if the general said "go get your Sword 🗡️", I believe the same word is used for the "Staff".
      If you didn't have a sword then you grabbed your staff (or whatever weapon you use ! ).
      I think it's a language translation mistake.
      People read kick your weapon because the translator doesn't know if the statement is about swords or staff or chain etc.
      Just "get your weapon ". I'm studying Tàijíquán and Chinese and it's not just exchanging words. The Chinese language is structured completely different and you must actually "interpret" the translation into an reasonable sentence.
      Just completed 365 day streak Duolingo language app

  • @tomjeff1743
    @tomjeff1743 Год назад +2

    any time a knee comes up it can be a deflection or to create momentum to cover more ground (like skipping) or to avoid a low cut or where the opponents head has been pulled down such that the rising knee will strike him in the face. This move exists in taiji, bagua, and hsing-i as well as plenty of other arts. Keep in mind that with any swinging movement of legs or arms the strike or deflection doesn't only occur at the end of the movement (as in western boxing) but occurs all the way thru the arc from start to finish. It can be a strike, deflection, chin-na lock, a throw, etc.

  • @KF1
    @KF1 3 года назад +3

    That was really impressive. A lot less flowery than most. I got the impression he was in excellent connection with the sword

    • @Dragon71484
      @Dragon71484  3 года назад +2

      Sometimes.....less is more 😉

    • @KF1
      @KF1 3 года назад

      @@Dragon71484 :)

  • @roberthay54
    @roberthay54 2 года назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @ellinapak5624
    @ellinapak5624 2 года назад +2

    Really great!

  • @chikeungchung8155
    @chikeungchung8155 Год назад +2

    👍行雲流水 消遙自在 一代宗師👏👏👏 能觀賞到演練 是眼福 感恩🙂🙏

  • @CorsairTrainers
    @CorsairTrainers 4 года назад +2

    Cool stuff!

    • @Dragon71484
      @Dragon71484  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment Steve 👍

  • @gerhardmayer6289
    @gerhardmayer6289 Год назад

    Wang she Tai Cheng nan ching Tui tang Tai dhji zhuang zen dai

  • @JL-bo4bh
    @JL-bo4bh 3 года назад +4

    This does not impress young generation. Not eye balls catching. They like the rearranged Tao Lu Taijiquan which jumps around and twists the body with fancy nonsense movements. They missed a true gem.

    • @Dragon71484
      @Dragon71484  3 года назад +1

      They needed to have had a good teacher to understand right from wrong 😉

    • @zatrusofnietzche2281
      @zatrusofnietzche2281 Год назад

      Dunno 🤔 the passing 60 or so school children were 😱😍👀 as I performed this on the beach this morning 🌅

  • @HappyLifege
    @HappyLifege 3 года назад +1

    Is this a short form?

    • @Dragon71484
      @Dragon71484  3 года назад +2

      In the Chin Li Ming system we do have 'Short Forms' and this isn't one of them. I'm more knowable in my system and only know the broad brush strokes of 'Tai Chi' 😉 So I don't know if this would be considered as a short form or not, maybe someone else out there can answer this question for you 😉 Ray

    • @HappyLifege
      @HappyLifege 3 года назад +2

      @@Dragon71484 I'm asking because I was taught a long form after a short one and it resembled what is depicted in this video.

    • @Dragon71484
      @Dragon71484  3 года назад +2

      Like I said...I only know the broad brush strokes of Tai Chi, that being said...there are forms that are basically the same but just shorter or longer depending who is teaching them. They just take out repetitive movements or leave them in. For instance....The Yang Family Tai Chi has 108 postures and the Cheng Man-ch'ing Tai Chi only has 37 postures, his is derived from the Yang family forms but isn't recognized by the Yang Family. His Tai Chi form is the one I practice 😉 Maybe his sword form is the same way. So I guess in a round about way maybe we've answer your question for you I hope 😉

    • @zatrusofnietzche2281
      @zatrusofnietzche2281 Год назад

      I think, 🤔95% sure this is "loa Jian 🗡️ or old Sword" 36 form. A rare form that actually has a name and not just a number.
      I finally completed this form today without hesitation or any "big !" mistakes.
      Ongoing joke with my Shifu that I will have to live forever to perform all these forms correctly 👍😁
      I say - "I think" this is loa Jian/36 form .
      But we must accept different physical levels as we mature and allow slight alterations to the form.
      I recognise three parts where he does not attempt to jump ( instead he steps👍🙏 and another four big physically demanding movements have been made less demanding 👍🙏👌💯
      It is an athletic form and definitely requires flexibility and endurance .
      This is why I love it so much, if you're practicing "Loa Jian 🗡️" your a Swordsman, definitely not a beginner 😁💪.
      At one point you curl up into as small a target as possible striking out very fast and very low ! (Legs crossed like a pretzel 🥨🤣💪)
      Then you turn the sword inward and spin on the spot and twist more than 360* to thrust at the same target as you rise😍. You /we should not expect seniors to perform this very physically demanding movement.
      Absolutely love it , man it looks so cool 🗡️. Now I must keep up the practice and embed it in my memory along with 19Doa,32,36(Chen Doa)56,🤔oops missed 49 another lovely form. Wudan 😮one day maybe 108. But I think it is better to master one or a few than attempting everything (also practice kendo, bōjutsu, war fan nun chucks,Aikido 3 fan forms,staffs, empty handed forms) I'm pretty blooming good Musashi style ⚔️😁💪🙏☯️🗡️love it.
      Moved country just to practice Taijiquan every day minimum 6 hours 😁😁😁💪☯️🙏. Getting to a point of a tiny hand fan and a Dizi are my choice of weapons. 47 years practicing 🗡️☯️🙏