They’re always going to be shaky with insight and envoy’s unpredictable play this year. If insight and envoy play average or better, they can beat anyone. Unfortunately it’s been a lot of both of them playing like trash and scrap trying his best to carry them.
@Lilquan2004 Uses too many words and has shit to say way too often. Guy talks more than basically everyone and is the only person without any experience playing so he doesn't know what he's talking about 90% of the time but has the most to say like fook bruh just chill.
In the last round of SnD, did Fame has ATS on? Why when he sprinted right before the kill did his gun go straight up, that isn't normal sprint so either he he has ATS or he double tapped it not expecting a gunfight where his teammate died?
This season is literally Optic vs Faze. Ultra and NY have a chance but they need Envoy/Insight to pick it up, and in my opinion all it would take for NY is Kismet get back in form cuz Hydra is unfuckinbelievable. I dont see that happening so its Optic vs Faze to me.
Even if ultra is all playing good I still got optic beating them 3-1 3-0 simply because ultra map pool is ass towards optic but against faze they map pool is good NYSL map Pool vs faze is Asss but towards optic it’s also Assss so they just chalk💀 NYSL hp vs the top 4 is terrible SnD is good vs top 4 besides optic control is mid
@@Lilquan2004 I see what youre saying but Ultra did beat Optic at the major 3-1, I think if they’re all playing good Ultra is definitely a champs worthy team. And also do you really think NY have no chance if Kismet gets into his MW2 form, I disagree.
Pat’s assumption that the “better” team will win every matchup in the bottom 8 is way too simplistic for someone as otherwise intelligent as he seems to be. That’s what makes most of his theatrics on the show boring - they’re not believable and don’t serve as the foil he’s hoping them to be. Implying that it’s impossible for Carolina to beat LAT in one LAN match before changing the discussion to naming “better” teams than LAT (while insisting he didn’t as if the whole show isn’t being recorded) is incredibly frustrating to the listener. I just don’t understand why there is such a war going on over “[insert team] has a chance to make champs” when mathematically there is chance. If you don’t think they will, just say that, explain briefly why (other than “they’re terrible” that isn’t helpful considering every bottom team has been called terrible), and keep it moving.
@@ox5016he means “you people” as in you crybabies that care too much about another man, when anybody else yaps on the show nobody says a thing, Ben opens his mouth for 3 seconds and everybody’s like “MuTe BeN 🤓 “
Bro nah what are yall doing attacking this kid that made this comment. Ben 100% talks way too much, cuts people off, hijacks every single topic, and on top of all that, he slurs his words together when he’s talking to the point where I can’t even understand what he’s saying.
CDL should have the Halo format Majors be on LAN it brings in more money from ticket sales and overall increase viewership because it’s lan Lots of trash talking
Hydra is phenomenal but......are we serious lmao ....dude is getting dubbed the best in the game.......this is a ridiculous take. Show me that when he okays the too teams...he always has a game or two but it just fizzles.
Is it faded to say that Optic are more fundamentally sound and structured than Faze, but Faze talent is so ridiculously high that it bails em out enough to out do the fundamentals?Major 4 and champs is literally up to whether Optic plays correctly or Faze worldstars.
Faded. Optic have always been known for lots of gunny and less fundamentals since forever. Not to say they don't have any at all but a lot of time they just win gunfights.
@@kenethernandez6246 that has definitely been their formula for years, but I dont see it this year. Cuz when they play bad, theyre getting gunned too. I think Kenny brings an insane amount of Fundamentals to their game, and they shoot better when theyre on point. Faze to me is opposite this year, they win fights they shouldn’t win like its always been, but their fundamentals dont seem as air tight as Optic right now. Regardless my point is I dont know whos gonna win champs, but its either Optic or Faze.
@@brendanritter4365 who on Faze is what Kenny is to Optic?I’m not even saying Optic is better, I just think Faze is more stacked with talent and it could be the reason they win champs, the same Optic could win champs if they play correctly.
@vvemomusic5543 You say that but at the same time Faze are 6-1 against optic this season and the games are close. Do you think that result is not associated to the fundamentals the 2 teams have? If the maps are close but the majority of the time Faze wins I think that has a lot to say about who is more fundamentally sound and the last time both teams played online optic were dominating the kill department but still lost so I just don't see your point unfortunately. When it comes to champs, both teams have a good chance of winning but I'm not sure if one of those 2 will actually win. Both subliners and Ultra are very talented and when playing at their best can definitely beat optic or Faze so I honestly don't know who's gonna win. We'll see how teams look at the end of major 4. I think whoever wins this major probably goes back to back and wins champs imo.
This top 4 chat from the fellas is really just lazy at this point. Surge literally just won and the boys will act like they have no chance at champs. Yes it can be lopsided but top 4 are also dropping certain maps and looking shaky at times.
I just want to say Chris is looking absolutely phenomenal keep up the good work. This is a motivation to a lot of people he’s grinding xdefiant and working out.
This feels so boring to me now, I feel like the format of the flank needs a shake up for the last stage & champs, need to bring on some pros or get some debate going like the old days
I think it's moreso the lack of fight from the bottom 8. It's hard to innovate any analysis podcast when results are consistent across every team. You got consistently ass teams and consistently good teams. In short, shit is boring repeating the same stance of every team.
@@jakeonyx4775 Dude i was watching the Flank when Zoomaa dropped himself out the league and it was just him and Ben with the yellow background. I been watching since the first episode, but this show didnt become what it is until Pat and Chris joined. Thats a fact dude.
Isn’t it obvious by now that these “resets” are intentional by the team that causes them? It’s always when a team is down or getting shit on that the game “all of the sudden messes up” on their side. Let’s get real here 😂
As a former Mutineers fan the Miami Heretics situation pisses me off. Why did they go all Spanish and cut themselves from 90% of potential teammates. So now if they chalk the whole Spanish gimmick we’re left with a 10x lamer brand than the Mutineers 😡
I respect Aches and his COD career, but what exactly does he bring to the table for this show? It's obvious that he doesn't even actually watch all the matches. His only "analysis" is that Team A sucks and they should make a change, but he never offers suggestions on what that change should be. And he is hard stuck on his opinions no matter what happens in the matches. At least Ben actually tries to break down mistakes and the reasons as to why those things are happening. He also has a designated lane with the team schedules, vetoes and map records.
Boston is last I believe but and this is a hot take but I think they are better than the thieves. It’s just bad management I don’t think it’s the players fault.
All I know Rokkr is getting slammed tomorrow against Surge. Also Benj had shared Miam'is weakness (inside intel) with karma (optics coach) an hour before Miami heretics match and THAT was a MAJOR REDCARD!!!
Absolutely love watching every flank that’s ever come out but this season is just making it hard to watch cause the teams are horrible and even if they go map 5 round 11 just knowing it doesn’t mean anything since the top 4 are gonna dominate on lan like usual
Get Apathy on the flank! I queued with him in ranked and he said he wanna do it
Yeah man need some OGs
what a smart way to flex your rank 😆
And kick ben 🫡
Yeah kick Ben gotta listen to the people man 😂
Tom you should do a fan meet up in LA this summer
Gotta tip the Ben masterclass troll from Aches... This shit had me crying 🤣🤣🤣
Found Ben’s burner
lil man doing lil man things
True, bringing in that damage
Tom is fuckin hilarious still going through clips while these dudes yelling at fools
Is it just me or does Toronto seem a little shaky?
They’re always going to be shaky with insight and envoy’s unpredictable play this year. If insight and envoy play average or better, they can beat anyone. Unfortunately it’s been a lot of both of them playing like trash and scrap trying his best to carry them.
@@ThatGuy-nv7cxIt’s everyone besides Scrap, Clean x has been stinking it up as well
Ben J really the Stephen A smith of the cod community 💀👌🤣
Disrespectful as fuck to Stephen a
@@FlopticsownersAt least Stephen makes me laugh with his dumb shit but Ben...
Ben feedback is good it’s just he use way to many words to explain it
@Lilquan2004 Uses too many words and has shit to say way too often. Guy talks more than basically everyone and is the only person without any experience playing so he doesn't know what he's talking about 90% of the time but has the most to say like fook bruh just chill.
@@kenethernandez6246 it’s simple what needs to happen going forward Ben needs to be like PAT and PAT needs to be like BEN only way to fix this drama
In the last round of SnD, did Fame has ATS on? Why when he sprinted right before the kill did his gun go straight up, that isn't normal sprint so either he he has ATS or he double tapped it not expecting a gunfight where his teammate died?
Man Octane is on vaaaaaacation, holyyyy hahaha!
I said it yesterday and I'll say it again today, Ben needs the slippers to make the putt.
This season is literally Optic vs Faze. Ultra and NY have a chance but they need Envoy/Insight to pick it up, and in my opinion all it would take for NY is Kismet get back in form cuz Hydra is unfuckinbelievable. I dont see that happening so its Optic vs Faze to me.
Even if ultra is all playing good I still got optic beating them 3-1 3-0 simply because ultra map pool is ass towards optic but against faze they map pool is good NYSL map
Pool vs faze is Asss but towards optic it’s also Assss so they just chalk💀 NYSL hp vs the top 4 is terrible SnD is good vs top 4 besides optic control is mid
@@Lilquan2004 I see what youre saying but Ultra did beat Optic at the major 3-1, I think if they’re all playing good Ultra is definitely a champs worthy team. And also do you really think NY have no chance if Kismet gets into his MW2 form, I disagree.
I think its faded to say hydra leaves NY bro makes the absolute bag and has the keys to make whatever team he wants
Sam in so integral to this show. I do love all others but his mind is unlike these guys!
Pat’s assumption that the “better” team will win every matchup in the bottom 8 is way too simplistic for someone as otherwise intelligent as he seems to be. That’s what makes most of his theatrics on the show boring - they’re not believable and don’t serve as the foil he’s hoping them to be. Implying that it’s impossible for Carolina to beat LAT in one LAN match before changing the discussion to naming “better” teams than LAT (while insisting he didn’t as if the whole show isn’t being recorded) is incredibly frustrating to the listener.
I just don’t understand why there is such a war going on over “[insert team] has a chance to make champs” when mathematically there is chance. If you don’t think they will, just say that, explain briefly why (other than “they’re terrible” that isn’t helpful considering every bottom team has been called terrible), and keep it moving.
Purrr what? PURRR JAYY
Doesnt matter if LAT "threw" the map 3. They should've have even gone to that round 5 (round 6 in reality)
Lllllllladiessss and GENTLEEEMAN WELCOME
The hormones
At 1:08:20 I’m from London and this isn’t London. This isn’t even anywhere in the UK
1:48:01 best part
Aches still on Purj’s nuts?
For real, Tom needs to start introducing himself first in the intro 😅
Now we gotta wait 4 more weeks for lan.. hopefully we get more lans next year 😪
Cdl needs halo format everything is on lan no online match’s
@@Lilquan2004with online tourneys every weekend
Pls get Ben to stop yapping so much, he should have a timer going every time he starts speaking.
Dont watch then, you people whine so much
@@KG66610 what do you mean, you people?
@@ox5016he means “you people” as in you crybabies that care too much about another man, when anybody else yaps on the show nobody says a thing, Ben opens his mouth for 3 seconds and everybody’s like “MuTe BeN 🤓 “
Don’t actually care about the yap but this would be a hilarious idea to do tho 😂
Bro nah what are yall doing attacking this kid that made this comment. Ben 100% talks way too much, cuts people off, hijacks every single topic, and on top of all that, he slurs his words together when he’s talking to the point where I can’t even understand what he’s saying.
CDL should have the Halo format Majors be on LAN it brings in more money from ticket sales and overall increase viewership because it’s lan Lots of trash talking
Think Optic should be scared that Aches is moving to Texas haha 😂
why the fuck would anyone be scared🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No one cares about a person who hasn’t been relevant in the scene for 5 years, and develops the cod killer that is absolutely garbage
No?
I really wish ravens won that series now it’s highly unlikely they are making champs
Why does Ben break down when aches doesn’t agree with him? In his own words, get a grip. lol aches is annoying but holy stay composed 😂
I’m 36 and Ben looks way older than me
Let’s go
Luigi
Vegas will smoke optic 😅
Hydra is phenomenal but......are we serious lmao ....dude is getting dubbed the best in the game.......this is a ridiculous take. Show me that when he okays the too teams...he always has a game or two but it just fizzles.
Is it faded to say that Optic are more fundamentally sound and structured than Faze, but Faze talent is so ridiculously high that it bails em out enough to out do the fundamentals?Major 4 and champs is literally up to whether Optic plays correctly or Faze worldstars.
It might be the other way around brother😂😂
Faded. Optic have always been known for lots of gunny and less fundamentals since forever. Not to say they don't have any at all but a lot of time they just win gunfights.
@@kenethernandez6246 that has definitely been their formula for years, but I dont see it this year. Cuz when they play bad, theyre getting gunned too. I think Kenny brings an insane amount of Fundamentals to their game, and they shoot better when theyre on point. Faze to me is opposite this year, they win fights they shouldn’t win like its always been, but their fundamentals dont seem as air tight as Optic right now. Regardless my point is I dont know whos gonna win champs, but its either Optic or Faze.
@@brendanritter4365 who on Faze is what Kenny is to Optic?I’m not even saying Optic is better, I just think Faze is more stacked with talent and it could be the reason they win champs, the same Optic could win champs if they play correctly.
@vvemomusic5543 You say that but at the same time Faze are 6-1 against optic this season and the games are close. Do you think that result is not associated to the fundamentals the 2 teams have? If the maps are close but the majority of the time Faze wins I think that has a lot to say about who is more fundamentally sound and the last time both teams played online optic were dominating the kill department but still lost so I just don't see your point unfortunately. When it comes to champs, both teams have a good chance of winning but I'm not sure if one of those 2 will actually win. Both subliners and Ultra are very talented and when playing at their best can definitely beat optic or Faze so I honestly don't know who's gonna win. We'll see how teams look at the end of major 4. I think whoever wins this major probably goes back to back and wins champs imo.
Show is better with just 4
Only if the 4 is Sam replacing Ben
Paco is not the best, shottzy pred scrap are better
Yea, No
@@t2nexx561 yea,yea
@@UriahandDadshottzy hasn’t even been as consistent as simp
Benjamin 😿 👶 🧀
Ben has a cry baby cheese fest, then tells everyone to lock in when everyone else moves on. What a weirdo
This top 4 chat from the fellas is really just lazy at this point. Surge literally just won and the boys will act like they have no chance at champs. Yes it can be lopsided but top 4 are also dropping certain maps and looking shaky at times.
First 🙏🏼
I just want to say Chris is looking absolutely phenomenal keep up the good work. This is a motivation to a lot of people he’s grinding xdefiant and working out.
This feels so boring to me now, I feel like the format of the flank needs a shake up for the last stage & champs, need to bring on some pros or get some debate going like the old days
They had a pro on last episode
tbh they don’t make most of the series like exciting to breakdown it’s just straight to the point analysis “they just suck tom”
The cdl is boring the flank is meant for analysis no?
The flank is great it's just wack cuz the bottom teams all suck and basically free points nothing to analyze other then they suck
I think it's moreso the lack of fight from the bottom 8. It's hard to innovate any analysis podcast when results are consistent across every team. You got consistently ass teams and consistently good teams. In short, shit is boring repeating the same stance of every team.
As an optic fan, I hope vikul has a good time at the game
I’m sure he doesn’t regret it😂
@@adamhachey8461 😂😂😅😅 it was a smart thing to do 💀
@@LebrunQueafI just hated hearing him on the flank, he talked so much and said nothing
1:35:50 and forward is comedy 😂😂😂
Btw we should acknowledge how well Ben and Pat were able to crash out and get back on track. 😂 nbs tho. Loyal OG fans of The Flank love the banter.
OG like Pat was even on the original 😂
@@jakeonyx4775 Dude i was watching the Flank when Zoomaa dropped himself out the league and it was just him and Ben with the yellow background. I been watching since the first episode, but this show didnt become what it is until Pat and Chris joined. Thats a fact dude.
@@vvemomusic5543 you think you’re special or something? We all watched from then 😂
@@jakeonyx4775 obviously that isn’t the case
@@ox5016 yellow background haha
We really gotta talk about BenJ and the putts. Back half of the year and he starts slumping? Some are just not built for it.
Isn’t it obvious by now that these “resets” are intentional by the team that causes them? It’s always when a team is down or getting shit on that the game “all of the sudden messes up” on their side. Let’s get real here 😂
Where’s octane at if someone can fill me in
Vacation with family
As a former Mutineers fan the Miami Heretics situation pisses me off. Why did they go all Spanish and cut themselves from 90% of potential teammates. So now if they chalk the whole Spanish gimmick we’re left with a 10x lamer brand than the Mutineers 😡
And it hurts their fan base extremely bad because most if not all they fans speak English and only understand English
Smells like bigotry in here
Sam really do be a part timer, that's craaazy
I respect Aches and his COD career, but what exactly does he bring to the table for this show? It's obvious that he doesn't even actually watch all the matches. His only "analysis" is that Team A sucks and they should make a change, but he never offers suggestions on what that change should be. And he is hard stuck on his opinions no matter what happens in the matches. At least Ben actually tries to break down mistakes and the reasons as to why those things are happening. He also has a designated lane with the team schedules, vetoes and map records.
Boston is last I believe but and this is a hot take but I think they are better than the thieves. It’s just bad management I don’t think it’s the players fault.
Lugig my goat 🐐
Lugig
NAME ONE
Miami did more for Purjay than Vegas did for him 😅
1:22:40 Ben your attitude is terrible
Sorry to say but XD, is straight dog pop.
pat had a legacy episode
All I know Rokkr is getting slammed tomorrow against Surge. Also Benj had shared Miam'is weakness (inside intel) with karma (optics coach) an hour before Miami heretics match and THAT was a MAJOR REDCARD!!!
Absolutely love watching every flank that’s ever come out but this season is just making it hard to watch cause the teams are horrible and even if they go map 5 round 11 just knowing it doesn’t mean anything since the top 4 are gonna dominate on lan like usual
I feel like the online cheese resets is silly if this was a football game and something interrupted the game they aren’t gonna keep us in the dark…
Aches put zoomaa on the spot when he got annihilated during the founding fathers event and thieve's comms are terrible 😂
Oh my I cant believe how far ben has fallen. truly the biggest bust Ive ever seen uwu
this episode was funny at and the flank been on point lately 💯
Ben missing 3 golf puts in a row 👀
Congrats on baby papanya papi luigi!
Man… Kenny’s comms are unreal.
Len
🏁🏁🏁😂♾
44:00
I miss when the big name pros would come on the flank. Now with five guys on the flank it’s kind of impossible to have a pro on
Bro Scrappy and shotzzy go on the flank from time to time. 04 was on yesterday aswell. Stop crying
Made it to 0:30 this time before getting sick of Ben
Tom, if you're a believer in Jesus Christ, please work on not saying our Lord's Name in vain. Thank you
Agreed I found it cringe when he said that
Ben ruining another episode. Pat will get the blame 🙃 go golf with your old friends.