All of Shrikant ji's talks are informative but this was an education. I'm reading his historical analysis of The Rig Veda, and it can be heavy at times, it's that detailed. A presentation like this won't make the book any easier but definitely more interesting. And his years of painstaking work is presented for free!! One gets a better education here than one gets earning a history degree in the university. I know because I got one, and didn't know absolutely anything about the objective truth of our past.
If people object shrikant ji for being a bank employee than Tony Joseph is a journalist. Matlab India mein agar aap journalist ho to sab vishay pe gyan pelenge . 😔
Lol. Tony Joseph became a geneticist without being a scholar on Genetics. You know how? Just criticize BJP and Hindutva and whatever you are politician's to comedian,you become famous as scholars.
Thanks for this presentation. One thing that struck me is about both Harappans and Vedic Aryans being pastoralists who domesticated cattle in the same region! My research area is in Harappan sea trade and I believe there are references to shipbuilding and seafaring technology in the Rig Veda.
@Devvrat Mishra Sir i heard a fact that indo aryan migration was male driven. The maternal lineage of indian population is mostly of autochthonous, only lower steppe mtdna is seen. But y lineage shows high r1a1 presence and say aryans replaced most males but not females. Does this shows an invasion? www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/59703-north-india-populated-by-central-asian-invaders.html
Ever heard of the Secret Warriors of Sinauli?? There were Weapons like Swords and Charriots. Its confirmed now that those were in 1800 B.C that is 3800 Years.
If any of you have trouble following or concentrating Talageri sir's speeches because he's not that eloquent as a speaker, play the video at 1.25x speed. Don't avoid watching it.
If only these things were passed on to all Hindus generations as inheritance, then now it would not have been so difficult to prove anything to our own people or to the world 😒 (western historians are not accustomed to Indian languages constructs, they will process and understand things in the same way they do the English language, in Sanskrit the language construct is a bit complex and is not a one to one word to meaning construct).
Mr. Talageris's work and theories are so interesting but his slides wordy and boring. His presentations will really be helped by pictorial and animation visuals
I thank Kushal for bring these talks to us. However, if you are going to say "I dont agree with you", then atleast have the guts to ask the relevant questions directly to the speakers rather than doing it on some monologue months later.
The whole argument of Shrikant Ji is based on 1) Distinction between old and new rigveda books 2) Relative chronology between them So I request him to give a presentation regarding how he establishes or derives these facts. How linguistics as a science has been used to estblish these facts? Is this distinction accepted by other scholars? If so, why they do not accpet your conclusion based on these facts? This is an honest request and attempt to seek the truth. #SatyshodhanNotSatyagraha!
@Abhra Talukder hindutva is a political ideology. AMT/OIT are all theories which are used to narrate ancient Indian history. So it's better not to mix politics with academics
Excellent analysis but I feel that the speaker ignores certain things , could they be tip of ice berg like Vetri in Tamil and victory in English have same meaning and sound alike .. Speaker says mere coincident , are they ????
I am still not satisfied by Talageriji's answer on relationships between indus valley people and vedic people. I sometimes think that indus valley was multicultural and vedic people use to live in rural areas whereas indus script was used by non-vedic people who use to live in urban centres like Harappa etc. What do you guys think?
I can see your point but I think indus valley and vedics are two seperate culture . And it is very much possible india is a big landscape even in country like Iraq diffrent civlization like Sumerian ,akkadian and Assyrian existed .
@Devvrat Mishra As per talegiri ji harrapans are not Vedic in his blogs he argues that harrapans are diffrent from Vedic . As per talegiri ji Vedas was written by only one Indian tribe Bharata-Puru it doesn't describe the culture of all Indian tribe. As per talegiri ji harrapans and Vedics are as diffrent than hittites and Egyptians even though they are mostly in same region they are diffrent cultures. Asper talegiri ji India is a big sub continent there were many cultures and civilzations are simultaneously existing . U can read all this in his blogs and in many YT videos which are also avilable in kushal channel. U can also ask him question in his blogs if he see fit he answers them.
@Devvrat Mishra well that iz a point of contention we don't know what language they use we can't dichiper there inscriptions. But there are evidence that India also had languages which are not related to Indo Aryans .
@Devvrat Mishra I asked the same question once but there are two sections in Rig-Veda old and new . Can u tell me in which verses they are mentioned so I can check it out
@@madhosinghgujjar1298 even gonds bhils and munda are not "adivasis". They came later in India. Nobody is "Adivasi" all came from Africa. They can be called vanvasis at best. If you are counting for who came first in India from Africa then they are Andmanis and not Gonds or Bhils.
@@iath2899 Adivasi yahan pehle aaye the baki sab baad mein . India is a land of migrants aur duniya mein sabhyta india se nahi aayi. Babylon ki sabhyatae india se purani hai.
@@madhosinghgujjar1298 Are mene kab mana kiya. Indeed India is a land of Migrants. All countries are land of migrants(except some in Africa). Or Adivasi kuch nahi hota vanvasi hota he. Or agar koi adivasi kahne layak he to wo Andmani log hain or koi nahi.
This guy doesn't know the difference between "whole genome" analysis and "Y-Haplogroup". He should stop talking about genetics and making a fool of himself.
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All of Shrikant ji's talks are informative but this was an education. I'm reading his historical analysis of The Rig Veda, and it can be heavy at times, it's that detailed. A presentation like this won't make the book any easier but definitely more interesting. And his years of painstaking work is presented for free!! One gets a better education here than one gets earning a history degree in the university. I know because I got one, and didn't know absolutely anything about the objective truth of our past.
Which university did you attend?
If people object shrikant ji for being a bank employee than Tony Joseph is a journalist.
Matlab India mein agar aap journalist ho to sab vishay pe gyan pelenge .
😔
Lol. Tony Joseph became a geneticist without being a scholar on Genetics. You know how? Just criticize BJP and Hindutva and whatever you are politician's to comedian,you become famous as scholars.
Duniya. Kea. Gareb. Ko. Batea. De. Nafrat. Batkar. Daolat. Bantea. Hendu. Beavkuf. Jo. Bato. Kea. Jaal
Mea. Fasta. Vasudav. Kutumbkam
Nahi. Jutakam.
Duniya. Kea. Osama. Bagdadi. Benladen. Hafej. Said. Taliban
Santi. Duut. Chin. Santi. Duut. Hidu
1500...2..hajar. Bhasa. Kyo. Palta
who cares about tony joseph? Both of them are not qualified in their fields
Love you Srikant ji ❤️
Thanks for this presentation. One thing that struck me is about both Harappans and Vedic Aryans being pastoralists who domesticated cattle in the same region! My research area is in Harappan sea trade and I believe there are references to shipbuilding and seafaring technology in the Rig Veda.
@Devvrat Mishra Sir i heard a fact that indo aryan migration was male driven.
The maternal lineage of indian population is mostly of autochthonous, only lower steppe mtdna is seen. But y lineage shows high r1a1 presence and say aryans replaced most males but not females. Does this shows an invasion?
www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/59703-north-india-populated-by-central-asian-invaders.html
@Devvrat Mishra but it is not in rakhigarhi dna.
Ever heard of the Secret Warriors of Sinauli?? There were Weapons like Swords and Charriots. Its confirmed now that those were in 1800 B.C that is 3800 Years.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 Possibly but I saw they Mentioned 1850 to 2000 B.C.E
If any of you have trouble following or concentrating Talageri sir's speeches because he's not that eloquent as a speaker, play the video at 1.25x speed. Don't avoid watching it.
Namaste this was an incredible discussion !
Brilliant presentation.
Sir is uncharacteristically angry this time around... 🙃
Arre Shrikant Talageri ji!! dint even know he was gonna be there when I clicked on this :)
I don't watch Talageri's videos live...I get a feeling that he will stop talking, pop out of the video and start taking my viva smh
😂😂
Enkea. Ethaas. Gareb. Deakhea. Asrafo. Nea. Daolat.. Gareb. Ke. Laso. Par. 47..Sea. Vinas. Naksli
If only these things were passed on to all Hindus generations as inheritance, then now it would not have been so difficult to prove anything to our own people or to the world 😒 (western historians are not accustomed to Indian languages constructs, they will process and understand things in the same way they do the English language, in Sanskrit the language construct is a bit complex and is not a one to one word to meaning construct).
Can we keep him alive for centuries 😂❤
Btw tony joseph is C- grade journalist, not historian, not geneticist , his daughter work in quint
Can we know who named the river Ghaggar Hakra?
Mr. Talageris's work and theories are so interesting but his slides wordy and boring. His presentations will really be helped by pictorial and animation visuals
Pure academy is always tedious for the people who don't have a serious intrest in the subject।
People new to the subject matter should first hear the host in his podcast on vedas
Kushal bhaiya zordaar..
I thank Kushal for bring these talks to us. However, if you are going to say "I dont agree with you", then atleast have the guts to ask the relevant questions directly to the speakers rather than doing it on some monologue months later.
The whole argument of Shrikant Ji is based on
1) Distinction between old and new rigveda books
2) Relative chronology between them
So I request him to give a presentation regarding how he establishes or derives these facts.
How linguistics as a science has been used to estblish these facts?
Is this distinction accepted by other scholars? If so, why they do not accpet your conclusion based on these facts?
This is an honest request and attempt to seek the truth. #SatyshodhanNotSatyagraha!
Nichta. Deakho. Hindu. Nea. Jinko
Gala. Lagaya. 47..kea.baad..Usko
75.Saal. Mea. Vahi. 47..Par.kemat
Es.baar.hindu.. 800.Saal.kimat
th rigveda hs becom a bloodsport today...
OIT is very inconsistent with linguistics
Plz tell how its inconsistent with linguistics
@Abhra Talukder hindutva is a political ideology. AMT/OIT are all theories which are used to narrate ancient Indian history. So it's better not to mix politics with academics
@@adityanarayan3909 politics and academics inevitably mix together…political ideology and political identities are derived from history
Shoot and scoot comment
@@period5304 If it is so then the history will be biased. Then how can we know what's real history or not?
hey if u want immortality(even as an academic) u r not interested in moksha
pl dont frget tht th avatar is solo whereas followers r infinite...academia ignores experiential wisdom altogethr
Excellent analysis but I feel that the speaker ignores certain things , could they be tip of ice berg like Vetri in Tamil and victory in English have same meaning and sound alike .. Speaker says mere coincident , are they ????
Vatura in Sinhala and Water in English are also similar sounding. What is your point?
I am still not satisfied by Talageriji's answer on relationships between indus valley people and vedic people. I sometimes think that indus valley was multicultural and vedic people use to live in rural areas whereas indus script was used by non-vedic people who use to live in urban centres like Harappa etc. What do you guys think?
I can see your point but I think indus valley and vedics are two seperate culture .
And it is very much possible india is a big landscape even in country like Iraq diffrent civlization like Sumerian ,akkadian and Assyrian existed .
@Devvrat Mishra sahi baat hai
@Devvrat Mishra As per talegiri ji harrapans are not Vedic in his blogs he argues that harrapans are diffrent from Vedic .
As per talegiri ji Vedas was written by only one Indian tribe Bharata-Puru it doesn't describe the culture of all Indian tribe.
As per talegiri ji harrapans and Vedics are as diffrent than hittites and Egyptians even though they are mostly in same region they are diffrent cultures.
Asper talegiri ji India is a big sub continent there were many cultures and civilzations are simultaneously existing .
U can read all this in his blogs and in many YT videos which are also avilable in kushal channel.
U can also ask him question in his blogs if he see fit he answers them.
@Devvrat Mishra well that iz a point of contention we don't know what language they use we can't dichiper there inscriptions.
But there are evidence that India also had languages which are not related to Indo Aryans .
@Devvrat Mishra I asked the same question once but there are two sections in Rig-Veda old and new .
Can u tell me in which verses they are mentioned so I can check it out
Aryans indeed came from outside so does many rajputs and Gujjars.
India is a nation of migrants only adivasi can claim that they settled first .
what is adivasi?advasis are not any indigeinous people.They are just forest dwellers.
@@indicaedits8692 the Gonds and bhils etc
@@madhosinghgujjar1298 even gonds bhils and munda are not "adivasis". They came later in India. Nobody is "Adivasi" all came from Africa. They can be called vanvasis at best. If you are counting for who came first in India from Africa then they are Andmanis and not Gonds or Bhils.
@@iath2899
Adivasi yahan pehle aaye the baki sab baad mein .
India is a land of migrants aur duniya mein sabhyta india se nahi aayi.
Babylon ki sabhyatae india se purani hai.
@@madhosinghgujjar1298 Are mene kab mana kiya. Indeed India is a land of Migrants. All countries are land of migrants(except some in Africa). Or Adivasi kuch nahi hota vanvasi hota he. Or agar koi adivasi kahne layak he to wo Andmani log hain or koi nahi.
This guy doesn't know the difference between "whole genome" analysis and "Y-Haplogroup". He should stop talking about genetics and making a fool of himself.
Point out the mistake and elaborating on it helps. Sloganeering does not help.