Consoles weren't made to be online they were made to give the player control over the console but gaming companies are being attacked by environmentalists saying that digital age gaming is good for the environment when it actually isn't blame them for trying to kill off the game disk which won't happen let them learn the hard way.
You are absolutely correct.Imagine being banned for something completely out of your control and losing all of your hard earned Games.Including Xbox and PC.
@@skillzgaming8649 Harder to lose the PC games, but it's still understandable, but with PC you have thousands of platform's you can play on, not all are popular though.
@@Vextrexxx Funnily enough, we're talking about consoles. But even then, I remember being able to buy the physical copies of PC games back in the late 2000s and early 2010s. Some games required Steam to play, but you still needed the game disc to even launch the game.
@@HangOnThereSlick Console,PC or handheld it's all going digital. I'd rather see changes for better licensing. Even past games are moved to digital and then just emulated. With digital you can have more games from more systems stored and distributed easily and way cheaper. Definitely more profitable. It happened with TV, movies, files, pictures and communications. You gonna stop that with a plastic disc/cartridge?.... Laughable...
My dad at one point argue with me that digital is the only way companies are going, I told him no it's going to be what the consumer want's and the consumers are wanting disk games. This was when PS5 first got announced they will have a digital and a disk version.
I own 2 Xbox series x and 133 games. Half are physical games and the rest are digital that I paid next to nothing for. The only reason there not all physical is because I can't find physical copies of them. I hate buying digital. I have one series x with all digital in it set to my home Xbox. My other series x is all physical games installed and kept up to date so I can put game in and play without Internet. The biggest problem is having enough storage to keep everything installed and updated. Hope this helps. I love your channel Ray. I also watch Jimmy for PlayStation news, just because. You guys are the best.
@@Atonam_real This idea works in theory but not in real-life situations. My wife has a Series S, which is marked my main console in-order for her to play all my games. She could just log me in the background, however, this process is too complicated for her since she didn't grow up playing games. Now, thanks to Animal Crossing, she's gotten into gaming (which is partly why there are so many cozy games now; the gaming market is changing). All digital games have a incoming issue as players are waking up, in fact I only buy physical games now and all of which are for the Nintendo Switch as I retire from Xbox&Playstaion due to digital media, internet is not everywhere in the UK and alldo I get full speed I know others who sit for day's to download a game.
If you dont have the console your using set as your home console you cant.... A lot of people buy new Xboxes and never set their new console as the home console.
This is partly why I'm happy to support GoG. They actually have offline installers and are more than happy to let you make as many backups as you like.
WII had a great method for digital. It tied the game to the unit so no log in needed. Added perk is when you buy a used WII it allowed you to download past purchases made on that console so when I replaced my console the last owner bought all the classic Mario's, etc. too bad those servers are retired. I still play the WII occasionally fine without a connection.
@@naraydaniels7832my bundles came with codes. Like the fortnite/rocket League bundle. It's on my account and those items are available on my PC as well (same accounts)
Digital ONLY is the worst mistake we don’t own it they own Edit: everyone who keeps saying “the game isn’t on the disc” that’s only a few games most of the games still have the games on the disc, the point is if their system goes down, if you account gets band, if anything happens, you still on a hard copy of the game to download on another account or to play still like I DID WHEN THE SYSTEM WHEN DOWN. That’s the point. Yes there are pros to having digital BUT it’s about ownership with out it being taken away
You don't own your physical games ethier its basically just a digital key to the digital game. Physical media for modern gaming is not the same as the physical media video games in the past back then you actually owned and had the full game on the disc/cartridge
I been digital only since 2010 thanks to steam. This issue is completely over blown. Physical media sale is on the DECLINE and will go the way of rhw VCR and DVD player.
@@regularstan6212 which is ridiculous and you apart of the problem 1 look at the restrictions they put on voice chat and speaking, you can get banned or shadow banned and then what happens to all of you stuff, thousands of dollars gone, this literally was 8 hours I waiting to get on and I couldn’t I have WARZONE and mortal kombat digital, mk1 because my brother bought it, I have it physically and WARZONE because it’s free, and I couldn’t get on either, I popped in my physical copy and both worked fine, you do it for convenience and yes it’s at a decline because its convenient, but physical is better, dvd and vhs are different because no one will ban you for anything
Between ps3 going down for 3 weeks, and Xbox down for 7 hrs, you would think that's proof enough that physical versions are still better. Whenever network issues arise, physical is a solution not just for games but movies as well.
The other part of this equation is the DRM all the games are using now require an internet connection just to function. It's not fair for me to say all of them are using it, but a lot of them have. Some of them drop it later which is nice.
Ya I remember players laughing at us Disc Only buyers... I will buy digital when there's super sales on older games - games I would never otherwise buy even on disc... but not my main games for as long as they're sold physically
This is why I've held on to EVERY SINGLE CONSOLE and all of the physical disk copies I've had for most of my life time. I've had my PS2 and all it's games since 2005, I've kept my PS3 and it's games from 2007, my Xbox 360 and all it's games from 2012, my Xbox One from 2014, and I'm gonna make sure to keep my Series X with a disk drive for as long as possible. Whether people want to admit it or not, having physical disks and copies is better than digital. It's MINE and I know it'll stay mine.
Get around the online license check with a physical token that is backed up to the cloud. Every time you download a game the token gets put on the physical key (think ruggedized USB key) make them cheap so you can have a few and encrypted so it's not deadly if you loose the token or it's stolen
I think even if you have the disk but you don't have the internet it still has to verify the disc license to the online service. I could be wrong about that.
Nah you right owning the disc just means you own the media install files which you still have to download from the servers shit is stupid foreal it’s kinda like an i-lock pass key any body that has it can use the software license on there device but u still have to be connected to online services to use it
@@ari3z_officialYou don't need Internet access to use an iLok USB key (Or even a key stored on your computer.). You only need Internet access if your license keys are on the cloud and roaming. You can take the USB key anywhere. You must be thinking of the lost iLok USB key service, which requires an online check-in every once in awhile. That is optional and you explicitly sign up for it with the downside (Occasional Internet access.) being spelled out in bold. What you earn is getting a new iLok with ALL of your (new) license keys on it back, sent to you so that you don't lose access to your software.
I got series X cuz I can play Blu-ray and such on it. Old movies I own. If next xbox can't take disks I am never getting rid of my series x so I still have my movie collection
Do anybody not know about going into the settings and going into the network tab and switch from online to offline and you can play all of your single player games and you can sign in.
Both of you gentlemen make good points regarding gaming. Something to be aware and wary of is the fact that this trend applies to all aspects of life, not just gaming technology. There is a massive push to remove ALL consumer ownership.
To keep desk alive, add more content with the disk ( exclusive disk only stuff , physical items, etc ) or drop disk early then digital ( idk ) something new
Honestly do not recall having this many issues with online gaming on older hardware like Dreamcast or Xbox back in the day. Funny how the technology got way better supposedly, yet the service seems to have gotten worse somehow. This all just makes me go back to all the previous generation of games that i have yet to play. I still have PC games on disc that I can install and not have to even bother with this crap. Just because they're new games doesn't mean they're all fun games worth all this hassle. Many older and fun games still out there waiting to be enjoyed until these companies get it together.
I own a bunch of digital games and I can’t access them without an internet connection so I’m used to this, digital doesn’t bother me as much I have the series s I just wish I had more memory.
I think the reason why steam handles this issue better than the consoles is due to cloud and cross save. So the system has to occasionally verify and authenticate that the account is the one logging in to receive the cloud save. It also has to verify that the account accessing the content/game has the license since you can make multiple accounts on the console.
The biggest crime of selling digital licenses for games, is charging the same exact price as their hard disc counterparts. Every digital license sold is an extortionist kickback to the studio that was spared the cost of printing, packaging, shipping, stocking, and bandwidth, because even the cost of download relies on the consumer. There needs to be a total paradigm shift in the industry by either reducing the cost of digital licenses, or provide the consumer with the digital license when purchasing the disc. Digital simply does not equate to owning the disc that could be potentially resold, or even loaned to a friend. As noted, if the network is down, so is your access to your purchasing library.
The only thing I could say about the digital that is good is not being able to have your games stolen or stepped on by accident but personally digital would be a good way to go if Xbox implemented an offline security key check in an update that runs in the software background that can be installed on a usb drive that you plug in that has all your downloaded license keys
This is what I've been warning gamers this whole time but I'm always met with a dismissal attitude. Sigh. See now it has become a reality of how we don't really own the digital games once the online stores shuts down! Also, the fact that you have to authenticate your XBox Series X games and PS5 games by having internet access just to be able to the play a game. That's the kind of future that I don't support. I've always warned others with the DRM stuff and now it's biting everyone where it hurts them!
MS runs virtual machines on the Series X for copy protection reasons. That slows the Box down a little bit. Maybe thats "enough" for the games that are running better on ps5.
Hey Ray, You do know that if you set your Xbox as your home Xbox that it will let you play digital games from your library if authentication services are down, right? I tested it with Fallout 4 GOTY edition before posting this just to double check myself and it worked fine. I do not own a physical copy, only digital. I disconnected my Xbox from all networks, then started Fallout 4 and continued a saved game. It did warn me that they couldn’t log in, but then asked if I wanted to play offline. I played for a couple of hours and then exited the game. A bit later I logged into my other Xbox and started Fallout 4 and saw I was on an old save, so I exited, went to my other Xbox & reconnected it, launched Fallout 4 and told it to use my Local copy of the save so it would sync back to the cloud. Worked like a champ! During the login outage a couple of days ago I had no issues continuing to play on my ‘Home’ Xbox throughout the outage, and the only weirdness I saw was that I got errors for the ‘Message of the Day’ couldn’t browse the Creation Club content, and couldn’t see the Xbox store to get new stuff. Games played fine besides that. Tried on my non-Home Xbox and nothing would load except disc based games, so I’m pretty sure I wasn’t just lucky :) Just saying because it’s not all doom and gloom like so many people would make it out to be.
The performance differences between XB and PS also make sense if you're familiar with how PC games behave on CPUs/GPUs with varying clock speeds and core/CU counts. XBSX's high compute unit count looks great on paper, but it's harder to make a game that's able spread the workload over so many lanes. A higher clock speed does better when there is a high workload thread causing a bottleneck.
Those of us who remember the disastrous announcement of Xbox One, remember specifically how they wanted the always online "feature" at launch and the Fandom revolted hard. As anticipated, it looks like all they did was delay and implemented it incrementally. The best way we, as console gamers, can do is BUY THE PHYSICAL COPIES! Also, this is the time to build up that physical library that includes games that aren't backward compatible (ex: Army of Two is available, but the sequels aren't). If you want access to your games, guaranteed without relying on a server, you need physical copies of your games.
@@jmangames5562 honestly what about peoppe who live n the mountains woth no internet? They deserve yo be able to play their games offline, without updates an dpwnloading this is insane we have let these losers treat us like this
That's not a digital content issues, it's a connectivity issue. Even most of your hard copy games require Xbox/PlayStation network connection, so if that fails it doesn't matter if you have a hard copy or not
there may not be a lot of investors for the microsoft/xbox platform- to dispose of studios and personnel is kneecapping a possibility of revenue in the long term .The deciding course of action would be the investors which there may not be as numerous as before with large chequebooks for the platforms business needs.The business couse of planning may not be a fan favorite move but I think longevity is what microsoft/xbox is doing their best to remain focused within the gaming/software division.
Even if the disc is just a key to get the game it's STILL better than the alternative and now your seeing why. Companies are HOPING people get too used to digital that they don't mind not actually owning the game or other forms of media. And NO ONE should get to yank the stuff you paid for away from you on a whim. That is why I keep telling people to buy physical media, because nothing can take that disc from your house once you have it.
Yep i think the real issue is when you gameshare with someone. Xbox gives you a message that tells you if you make your xbox your home xbox you can play offline.
even with the current physical disc they dont even contain the copy of the game its basically just a download disc for certain games you even said yourself in the video that some disc are just download disc not play disc
Only thing is its cheaper for game devs and studios to make digital only games. It completely removes the cost of mass producing physical copies, which means more profit aka what they all want. This is why they have been experimenting with all these battlepasses and mtx, those will replace the physical items in collection editions.
As a modern country boy. Having speed for online gaming is doable. But downloading games, modern games more so, was a true engrained worry. Spyro Reignited was truly the moment I knew... the shift started.
Long time Xbox fan and have been around since it went live back in the good old days. And there was a part in Xboxes modern gaming( pre covid) and as long as it was your home Xbox you could still play any game without being connected to online the only caveat was that you couldn't play multiplayer naturally you had somebody locally or ethernet cable hookup. But now after covid they've changed that and I've been complaining about it now since then. It's good to see people start noticing or at least it's catching traction on media. Realistically as long as your Xbox is licensed under that account there's no reason why I should need to authenticate it at licensed account is typically what made that purchase.
Digital means enternet there’s a a lot people don’t have enternet that’s why they buy physical copy plus there library have games you can’t play or buy that sucks
“ why does Xbox even have a preservation team when the servers go down every once in a while”. My good friend that is called a false dichotomy. The servers and gain preservation have little to nothing to do with each other. The two things are not mutually exclusive. Sometimes rants are just that rants - that make no sense at all. But Ray, as an almost 80-year-old gamer, I love your channel. Love, love, love. Also live in Los Angeles. (born in Baltimore - Go Orioles).
This is why i keep my old consoles and never get rid of anything
Consoles weren't made to be online they were made to give the player control over the console but gaming companies are being attacked by environmentalists saying that digital age gaming is good for the environment when it actually isn't blame them for trying to kill off the game disk which won't happen let them learn the hard way.
Just don't hoarde it 😅
nah cuz like for real I'm about to buy an Xbox 360
@@briangayton9932 this is why I have emulators on my xbox
I still have my Xbox one and Xbox one S
Another issue is that if you get banned for whatever reason. Goodbye to your whole library full of games, dlcs, etc
You are absolutely correct.Imagine being banned for something completely out of your control and losing all of your hard earned Games.Including Xbox and PC.
@@skillzgaming8649 Harder to lose the PC games, but it's still understandable, but with PC you have thousands of platform's you can play on, not all are popular though.
Isn't a ban only for online gaming? You would still keep your library
Damn never thought about that🤯🤯 there would be no way to transfer ownership that's horrible to think about
@@Mr_Ste Not true, I've had a previous Xbox account get banned and everything was gone, library included.
It having a Blue ray HDR player was the final selling point. No drive, nosale
Anyone is just plain crazy if they think digital is the only future we need. It should never stop being both.
Lol. STEAM is all digital. But keep clutching your pearls and physical games real tight!
@@Vextrexxx Funnily enough, we're talking about consoles. But even then, I remember being able to buy the physical copies of PC games back in the late 2000s and early 2010s. Some games required Steam to play, but you still needed the game disc to even launch the game.
@@Vextrexxx almost like you're not even in tho convo then. Nobody cares how much your pc costs.
@@HangOnThereSlick Console,PC or handheld it's all going digital. I'd rather see changes for better licensing. Even past games are moved to digital and then just emulated. With digital you can have more games from more systems stored and distributed easily and way cheaper. Definitely more profitable. It happened with TV, movies, files, pictures and communications. You gonna stop that with a plastic disc/cartridge?.... Laughable...
My dad at one point argue with me that digital is the only way companies are going, I told him no it's going to be what the consumer want's and the consumers are wanting disk games. This was when PS5 first got announced they will have a digital and a disk version.
We need a update on consoles we can play games without need to connect in the internet and also dev mode
We have set console as “home console”. You can play all games using that offline.
I own 2 Xbox series x and 133 games. Half are physical games and the rest are digital that I paid next to nothing for. The only reason there not all physical is because I can't find physical copies of them. I hate buying digital. I have one series x with all digital in it set to my home Xbox. My other series x is all physical games installed and kept up to date so I can put game in and play without Internet. The biggest problem is having enough storage to keep everything installed and updated. Hope this helps. I love your channel Ray. I also watch Jimmy for PlayStation news, just because. You guys are the best.
@@Atonam_real This idea works in theory but not in real-life situations. My wife has a Series S, which is marked my main console in-order for her to play all my games. She could just log me in the background, however, this process is too complicated for her since she didn't grow up playing games. Now, thanks to Animal Crossing, she's gotten into gaming (which is partly why there are so many cozy games now; the gaming market is changing). All digital games have a incoming issue as players are waking up, in fact I only buy physical games now and all of which are for the Nintendo Switch as I retire from Xbox&Playstaion due to digital media, internet is not everywhere in the UK and alldo I get full speed I know others who sit for day's to download a game.
If you dont have the console your using set as your home console you cant.... A lot of people buy new Xboxes and never set their new console as the home console.
It suffice to set your console as Xbox home console to play games offline, it's crazy ppl is unaware of that even today.
this is why CD games would be a better backup way versus going only digital.
This is partly why I'm happy to support GoG. They actually have offline installers and are more than happy to let you make as many backups as you like.
Personally I would think it would be cool if we could have a stack of 64-128-256GB mini NVMEs at an affordable price
@@he8535 agreed
We need to keep physical game media possible. With the full game on the disc.
WII had a great method for digital. It tied the game to the unit so no log in needed. Added perk is when you buy a used WII it allowed you to download past purchases made on that console so when I replaced my console the last owner bought all the classic Mario's, etc. too bad those servers are retired. I still play the WII occasionally fine without a connection.
If I buy a used one now, i wont be able to download past purchases from the previous owner, correct?
@@Alien_isolationist unfortunately no you won't because they shutdown the servers back in April of this year.
Believe it or not Xbox actually does this when you buy a bundle, the game is affiliated with the console
@@naraydaniels7832 I don't buy that for a minute. Turn your internet off & tell me it works still.
@@naraydaniels7832my bundles came with codes. Like the fortnite/rocket League bundle. It's on my account and those items are available on my PC as well (same accounts)
Digital ONLY is the worst mistake we don’t own it they own
Edit: everyone who keeps saying “the game isn’t on the disc” that’s only a few games most of the games still have the games on the disc, the point is if their system goes down, if you account gets band, if anything happens, you still on a hard copy of the game to download on another account or to play still like I DID WHEN THE SYSTEM WHEN DOWN. That’s the point. Yes there are pros to having digital BUT it’s about ownership with out it being taken away
You don't own your physical games ethier its basically just a digital key to the digital game. Physical media for modern gaming is not the same as the physical media video games in the past back then you actually owned and had the full game on the disc/cartridge
I been digital only since 2010 thanks to steam. This issue is completely over blown. Physical media sale is on the DECLINE and will go the way of rhw VCR and DVD player.
@@regularstan6212 which is ridiculous and you apart of the problem 1 look at the restrictions they put on voice chat and speaking, you can get banned or shadow banned and then what happens to all of you stuff, thousands of dollars gone, this literally was 8 hours I waiting to get on and I couldn’t I have WARZONE and mortal kombat digital, mk1 because my brother bought it, I have it physically and WARZONE because it’s free, and I couldn’t get on either, I popped in my physical copy and both worked fine, you do it for convenience and yes it’s at a decline because its convenient, but physical is better, dvd and vhs are different because no one will ban you for anything
@@ChemicalCorpse91 that’s not all game. Only a few and that’s becoming a problem
@@carlosheredia6776 All modern media, esp any games for Xbox One or Series X|S is only digital media, with a license key on disc.
Digital only is gonna get even more since Sony announced they're shutting down the physical media factories.
They are shutting down recordable disc production. They made a deal to release stuff for Disney & other studios on disc.
Seriously? Everyone thinks Xbox is going digital only 1st when it comes to consoles. Glad I'm primarily a retro gamer.
Between ps3 going down for 3 weeks, and Xbox down for 7 hrs, you would think that's proof enough that physical versions are still better. Whenever network issues arise, physical is a solution not just for games but movies as well.
The other part of this equation is the DRM all the games are using now require an internet connection just to function. It's not fair for me to say all of them are using it, but a lot of them have. Some of them drop it later which is nice.
Ya I remember players laughing at us Disc Only buyers... I will buy digital when there's super sales on older games - games I would never otherwise buy even on disc... but not my main games for as long as they're sold physically
The only thing about offline mode with steam is you are screwed if you have not went into offline mode and checked in
This is why I've held on to EVERY SINGLE CONSOLE and all of the physical disk copies I've had for most of my life time. I've had my PS2 and all it's games since 2005, I've kept my PS3 and it's games from 2007, my Xbox 360 and all it's games from 2012, my Xbox One from 2014, and I'm gonna make sure to keep my Series X with a disk drive for as long as possible. Whether people want to admit it or not, having physical disks and copies is better than digital. It's MINE and I know it'll stay mine.
Get around the online license check with a physical token that is backed up to the cloud. Every time you download a game the token gets put on the physical key (think ruggedized USB key) make them cheap so you can have a few and encrypted so it's not deadly if you loose the token or it's stolen
We gonna talk abt that fly? 😂😂
I think even if you have the disk but you don't have the internet it still has to verify the disc license to the online service. I could be wrong about that.
Nah you right owning the disc just means you own the media install files which you still have to download from the servers shit is stupid foreal it’s kinda like an i-lock pass key any body that has it can use the software license on there device but u still have to be connected to online services to use it
@@ari3z_officialnuh uh u don't gotta connect to the internet to download game
@@ari3z_officialYou don't need Internet access to use an iLok USB key (Or even a key stored on your computer.). You only need Internet access if your license keys are on the cloud and roaming. You can take the USB key anywhere.
You must be thinking of the lost iLok USB key service, which requires an online check-in every once in awhile. That is optional and you explicitly sign up for it with the downside (Occasional Internet access.) being spelled out in bold. What you earn is getting a new iLok with ALL of your (new) license keys on it back, sent to you so that you don't lose access to your software.
I realized this years back when I moved and didn't have Internet for almost a month and couldn't play any digital games. I was furious....
If you make it your home console you can play offline
True you can play offline on single player games without internet it co up games
I have 2 xbox, the home xbox is in a different country. I was unfortunate the outage happened at a bad time
Swear I just asked my girl if there's gonna be another round of government funded stimulus just so we can upgrade😂
Thank you for promoting knowledge
Making it your home Xbox doesn't matter if there is a server outage and your games are digital
Steam also has an offline mode that has seemingly always worked for me. Deck FTW
I got series X cuz I can play Blu-ray and such on it. Old movies I own. If next xbox can't take disks I am never getting rid of my series x so I still have my movie collection
my release series x disc drive has never worked .....
Do anybody not know about going into the settings and going into the network tab and switch from online to offline and you can play all of your single player games and you can sign in.
Both of you gentlemen make good points regarding gaming. Something to be aware and wary of is the fact that this trend applies to all aspects of life, not just gaming technology. There is a massive push to remove ALL consumer ownership.
I'm still mad because I lost all my game clips... All those years of memories gone
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Jimmy just murdered a fly on stream! Bro.. calm down.
Fuck fly's.
All those years of gaming have given him great hand eyes coordination…got that sucker on the second try lol
To keep desk alive, add more content with the disk ( exclusive disk only stuff , physical items, etc ) or drop disk early then digital ( idk ) something new
Ive been on pc for a while now. I forgot discs even existed
Went thru same thing, lucky had another email associated with the account that wasn't signed in. Signed in with that account and got my games back.
Honestly do not recall having this many issues with online gaming on older hardware like Dreamcast or Xbox back in the day. Funny how the technology got way better supposedly, yet the service seems to have gotten worse somehow. This all just makes me go back to all the previous generation of games that i have yet to play. I still have PC games on disc that I can install and not have to even bother with this crap. Just because they're new games doesn't mean they're all fun games worth all this hassle. Many older and fun games still out there waiting to be enjoyed until these companies get it together.
I own a bunch of digital games and I can’t access them without an internet connection so I’m used to this, digital doesn’t bother me as much I have the series s I just wish I had more memory.
so real.
If you go to the settings hit go offline and then try to sign in it would sign you in
I think the reason why steam handles this issue better than the consoles is due to cloud and cross save. So the system has to occasionally verify and authenticate that the account is the one logging in to receive the cloud save. It also has to verify that the account accessing the content/game has the license since you can make multiple accounts on the console.
The biggest crime of selling digital licenses for games, is charging the same exact price as their hard disc counterparts. Every digital license sold is an extortionist kickback to the studio that was spared the cost of printing, packaging, shipping, stocking, and bandwidth, because even the cost of download relies on the consumer. There needs to be a total paradigm shift in the industry by either reducing the cost of digital licenses, or provide the consumer with the digital license when purchasing the disc. Digital simply does not equate to owning the disc that could be potentially resold, or even loaned to a friend. As noted, if the network is down, so is your access to your purchasing library.
There was a way to get around the servers being down. Read it in multiple places.
You wouldn't have been able to sign in with a physical copy as well right?
The only thing I could say about the digital that is good is not being able to have your games stolen or stepped on by accident but personally digital would be a good way to go if Xbox implemented an offline security key check in an update that runs in the software background that can be installed on a usb drive that you plug in that has all your downloaded license keys
Love listening to jazz while y'alls talk❤
This is what I've been warning gamers this whole time but I'm always met with a dismissal attitude. Sigh. See now it has become a reality of how we don't really own the digital games once the online stores shuts down! Also, the fact that you have to authenticate your XBox Series X games and PS5 games by having internet access just to be able to the play a game. That's the kind of future that I don't support. I've always warned others with the DRM stuff and now it's biting everyone where it hurts them!
MS runs virtual machines on the Series X for copy protection reasons. That slows the Box down a little bit. Maybe thats "enough" for the games that are running better on ps5.
if this thing is gonna be there, I'm just gonna scavenge older games disks, fortunately I haven't played many of the best games
Same man, I had a lot going on last decade and was a broke bish before that lol
You're alive because I've been playing my PS5 non-stop without any internet
Hey Ray,
You do know that if you set your Xbox as your home Xbox that it will let you play digital games from your library if authentication services are down, right?
I tested it with Fallout 4 GOTY edition before posting this just to double check myself and it worked fine.
I do not own a physical copy, only digital. I disconnected my Xbox from all networks, then started Fallout 4 and continued a saved game. It did warn me that they couldn’t log in, but then asked if I wanted to play offline.
I played for a couple of hours and then exited the game. A bit later I logged into my other Xbox and started Fallout 4 and saw I was on an old save, so I exited, went to my other Xbox & reconnected it, launched Fallout 4 and told it to use my
Local copy of the save so it would sync back to the cloud. Worked like a champ!
During the login outage a couple of days ago I had no issues continuing to play on my ‘Home’ Xbox throughout the outage, and the only weirdness I saw was that I got errors for the ‘Message of the Day’ couldn’t browse the Creation Club content, and couldn’t see the Xbox store to get new stuff. Games played fine besides that.
Tried on my non-Home Xbox and nothing would load except disc based games, so I’m pretty sure I wasn’t just lucky :)
Just saying because it’s not all doom and gloom like so many people would make it out to be.
Hey Ray I put my Xbox in offline mode which let me sign in. Then I switched back and I was able to play.
Your PSN problem can be some up to your Internet download and upload speed, my friend had that problem and all he did was get a new Internet provider.
Ive been saying all of this about digital media all along but “no digital is great, digital is the future” how do you like them apples now!!!
Still have my Xbox and ps2 somewhere
That I might play if the net goes down
If you set your Xbox to home console it literally gets rid of the issue
The performance differences between XB and PS also make sense if you're familiar with how PC games behave on CPUs/GPUs with varying clock speeds and core/CU counts. XBSX's high compute unit count looks great on paper, but it's harder to make a game that's able spread the workload over so many lanes. A higher clock speed does better when there is a high workload thread causing a bottleneck.
Set up offline mode I did that and it work
Those of us who remember the disastrous announcement of Xbox One, remember specifically how they wanted the always online "feature" at launch and the Fandom revolted hard. As anticipated, it looks like all they did was delay and implemented it incrementally. The best way we, as console gamers, can do is BUY THE PHYSICAL COPIES! Also, this is the time to build up that physical library that includes games that aren't backward compatible (ex: Army of Two is available, but the sequels aren't). If you want access to your games, guaranteed without relying on a server, you need physical copies of your games.
Most my games are on PS5 disc's & VR & I can play most of them offline cuz I'm not really into online games like that
Love the show y’all 💯
This is why I use disc for everything
I'm shocked they didn't go towards animations.
Mine was down over 6 hours Indianapolis Indiana
Great to see Ray and Jimmy Together again
Love when Jimmy and Ray team up.
Do you guys understand that the 360 and even the very First xbox you can just pop a disc in
I still have a 360
Yup have 2 and getting more!! FTC should make this mandatory!! Yup 💯
@@jmangames5562 honestly what about peoppe who live n the mountains woth no internet? They deserve yo be able to play their games offline, without updates an dpwnloading this is insane we have let these losers treat us like this
Wow best one yet Ray!! Very nice. Well planned out video and I usually can't stand Jimbo, but he was outstanding as well!
I played Halo campaign when there was an outage. I didn't have that problem
Hey YOOOOO Jimmy hit that fly like ya hit a 360 to open the disk tray😂
I have games on disc or floppy or cartridge all the way back to my magnavox odyssey. I can still play all those games
No monthly payment on steam too which is a bonus
That's not a digital content issues, it's a connectivity issue. Even most of your hard copy games require Xbox/PlayStation network connection, so if that fails it doesn't matter if you have a hard copy or not
I buy digital sometimes, but would never go full in on digital only. This is a reason why.
there may not be a lot of investors for the microsoft/xbox platform- to dispose of studios and personnel is kneecapping a possibility of revenue in the long term .The deciding course of action would be the investors which there may not be as numerous as before with large chequebooks for the platforms business needs.The business couse of planning may not be a fan favorite move but I think longevity is what microsoft/xbox is doing their best to remain focused within the gaming/software division.
I didn't have any issues with my digital games
Wait, this happens even if your Xbox is set to "Home Xbox" with a license for offline mode gaming??
If you would, could you please do a video on Xbox support?
It’s been like this for yrs you can play offline and not be able to use your saved game 👍
During the outage I was trying to play NFS Rivals…
All my games are digital and I was able to play during the outage.
you should look up the Stop killing games movement
Even if the disc is just a key to get the game it's STILL better than the alternative and now your seeing why. Companies are HOPING people get too used to digital that they don't mind not actually owning the game or other forms of media. And NO ONE should get to yank the stuff you paid for away from you on a whim. That is why I keep telling people to buy physical media, because nothing can take that disc from your house once you have it.
Yep i think the real issue is when you gameshare with someone. Xbox gives you a message that tells you if you make your xbox your home xbox you can play offline.
Just go to the network connection and go offline I can play any game.
This is not an issue when your console is set as your Home Console.
Being able to play on a non-Home Console is an *online feature.* 🤦🏾♂️
It lasted from 2pm to 9 pm that's 7 hours
They don’t have a team for game preservation Beacuse they don’t add support for older Xbox games anymore
even with the current physical disc they dont even contain the copy of the game its basically just a download disc for certain games you even said yourself in the video that some disc are just download disc not play disc
Only thing is its cheaper for game devs and studios to make digital only games. It completely removes the cost of mass producing physical copies, which means more profit aka what they all want. This is why they have been experimenting with all these battlepasses and mtx, those will replace the physical items in collection editions.
Still to this hour minute and second my Xbox 1 still got super lag unplayable for call of duty it’s been like this for 10 days bro plz help
It's a CoD issue bro, most prevalent on Xbox platforms, but it's happening on all platforms, it's a CoD issue.
@jedirayden So not being able to play cold war with gamepass is a cod issue? I'm currently trying to play the campaign and im not successful
As a modern country boy. Having speed for online gaming is doable. But downloading games, modern games more so, was a true engrained worry. Spyro Reignited was truly the moment I knew... the shift started.
Digital or physical u don’t own them this is why u read terms and conditions but everyone just skips through them 💀
Is there a way to get the game data online and burn your own cd ?
Solution is having a back up game, i bought gta4 and since everything was down i just played that game since it does not need internet at all😊
I just went back to highschool and am playing on the OG systems and say suck it to new consoles!
Hopefully they'll AT least support am external disc drive
Does this occur if the console is set as your home Xbox?
Laughs in steam lol.
Everyone's music is basically all digital. Better back it all up or by CDs
Long time Xbox fan and have been around since it went live back in the good old days. And there was a part in Xboxes modern gaming( pre covid) and as long as it was your home Xbox you could still play any game without being connected to online the only caveat was that you couldn't play multiplayer naturally you had somebody locally or ethernet cable hookup. But now after covid they've changed that and I've been complaining about it now since then. It's good to see people start noticing or at least it's catching traction on media. Realistically as long as your Xbox is licensed under that account there's no reason why I should need to authenticate it at licensed account is typically what made that purchase.
Stupid, why make most of their back catalogue compatible to go all digits. 🤔
Digital means enternet there’s a a lot people don’t have enternet that’s why they buy physical copy plus there library have games you can’t play or buy that sucks
The glitch that I use was go offline and then go login and then go online
“ why does Xbox even have a preservation team when the servers go down every once in a while”. My good friend that is called a false dichotomy. The servers and gain preservation have little to nothing to do with each other. The two things are not mutually exclusive. Sometimes rants are just that rants - that make no sense at all.
But Ray, as an almost 80-year-old gamer, I love your channel. Love, love, love. Also live in Los Angeles. (born in Baltimore - Go Orioles).
Can we see the PS5 digital Error? This is the first I've heard of it. 🤔
This is why you need to set up your Xbox to play offline. I had 0 issues playing my single player non online games during this time.
ps5 is unix based and can be optimized alot more
PlayStation 2 had a disc swop exploit so that is probably why they check so much
All your games still work offline you don't need to have an Internet connection to play your games just ones that are online only
If yuo dont have the console set as your home you cant..... I never have a problem offline even when the entire internet is down I can play no proble,