Wow the game looks incredible! I didn't know Nick was in this game! I also love how they have the Canadian legendary commentary Mauro Ranallo in this game! Awesome stuff brother!
They had a nice roster.. Had guys like jason mayhem miller and bas rutten.. Plus they did frequent touneys that would be broadcast with actual live commentary.. It was crazy
They wanted to capture it well back then when he was active...UFC 4 doesn't care about nick Diaz fight style..maybe he gets an upgrade after his upcoming fight
It’s what I’ve been saying for years EA sports should go back and look at that game and use it as a template for the next edition. It’s like after they made mma they got LAZY when the got the contract.
@@serdavezilla6494 I bought a 360 copy on Amazon yesterday and I was able to get fight night champion backwards compatible so I’m gonna seriously pray that it is
This game was so fun online for the 11 months it was available. The gameplay felt as natural as an somewhat arcadey MMA Game could feel is the best way to describe it. I like how could rush with a flurry of punches in the first few seconds and get a KO if you catch the off guard. But if they get their bearings back they can really make you pay for it. Also once you get the feel of it, The striking, clinching, takedowns and defense flowed in a way not seen before or since. The MMA Gods decided we aren't worthy of an EA MMA 2.
Yea the only mma game that i had a one punch flash ko within seconds online. I love how someone could get koed stiff if they came out to aggressive spamming. And the parrying system was the best in this game
Came here to say this. EA MMA was one of the only fighting games I've played online because it was really pretty random in a fun way. I loved the streamed showcase fight nights where they had announcers. I was very disappointed when they just shut down the servers so quick, and now no one can get any of those achievements. If you know you are going to shut down the online portion so quickly then you shouldnt make a good chunk of achievements about the online game.
I absolutely love this game. The venues, rule sets, old school fighters, in depth stats, sub system and my all time favorite is the DAMAGE SYSTEM. Fights can literally end in a flash if landed cleanly. The blood on fighters and the mats after a long grueling fight is just satisfying. Even the way fighters drop after getting hit Ko'd or knocked down was gorgeous to watch. This was truly an authentic MMA game and by far my favorite MMA game of all time outside UD 3.
I love that they made Nick unique instead of having regular punches. They need to do that with everyone. They also need to do that more nowadays. Every Fighter should feel unique. Great Video Martial
@@whatisthisthing7465 man everyone keeps bringing that game up… its not doin it for me. Its not mma.. its not fighting… it is boxing.. pretty cool but not feelin it.. ill play it but it doesn’t replace mma for me.
@@NewDesignVinylGraphics Don't get me wrong, I'll probably still be playing ufc 3 when it comes out. Maybe I'm biased because I love fight night champion. But a proper next gen fighting game with a studio that's putting some real effort into it be it boxing or mma, I'm hype.
@@NewDesignVinylGraphics I’m a bigger MMA fan than anything else and never watch boxing. But I’d much rather play a quality boxing game than a shitty mma game and we only have shitty mma games recently.
I remember picking this game up on a bargain, $5.00 brand new! I wasn’t expecting much going into it, but was amazed. I think of this game more than UFC’s entries and that says a lot!
This was my favorite mma game till EA UFC 3. Everyone talk about how good was Undisputed 3 but i am on the other side. Striking is very sluggish in all Undisputed games. EA MMA was like a fresh breath.
@@sukhdevr3489 ufc 2 was the first game i got on my bday a few years back loved it ever since the rag doll physics were pretty funny given the right ko
The undisputed games were great because of attention to detail and the ground game. The striking was rough though, it felt like I was always winging hooks. You have to let go of the left stick to throw jabs and straights and you never connect with those. The striking in ufc 4 is the best it’s been but that’s about the only good thing from the game.
Idk what your smoking because the striking in ea mma looks so sluggish, wonky, clumsy and looks like absolute shi+. Should've just copied fight night champions jab, straight, hooks, and uppercut animations. Undisputed 3 has way better striking animations and a better and more deeper system. And yea, I know people don't really like the system where you need to move to throw hooks and you need to stay still to throw JABS and straights, but everything else in ud3 made it the greatest mma/ufc game of all time. The striking, grappling, realism, mechanics, ground and pound, submissions, ragdoll knockouts, doctor stoppages, ground tko's, etc.
You’re crazy. Undisputed 3 shits on ea mma forsure. It has a way better striking system and knockouts. Career mode is way deeper with pride being a career route and it looks better so really ea mma has nothing on it
I somehow created a CAF that would wreck Fedor and got this achievement pretty easily. This was also the game I did a lot of celeb CAFs because of Game Face and whatever names you could choose. I know I had both LaVar Burton and Jack Burton (Kurt Russell) and my own face on CAF. That was fun.
@@SuperSohSo It was ok, a little uncanny valley but it was like a rough digital cartoon version of your face. I found it more fun to grab celeb images and use those, I think I only made a couple with my face for CAFs because it was just a little too weird
The replays, hit response animations, intro sequences, body types & submission game are still miles ahead of UFC 4. I also like how there’s no knockdowns every 20 secs
This game was such a blast. The fighter damage looked so real. Vale tudo rules were so sick. The KO ragdoll was awesome too! Movement definitely floaty and ground game was real simple, but it was fun as heck.
I will never get why these same devs make UFC 4 a rock fest. I love the feeling of a well timed counter and finishing someone early. It feels like that happens on occasion and not as a norm in UFC 4. Flash KOs and shit like that got me into watching MMA in the first place!
This game actually made me a hardcore mma fan. I was barley a mma fan at the time of the games release, but I played this game around 2015, and I got addicted. The career mode was awesome.
EA MMA was a super underrated game. Actually wish I could go back and play it. The career mode was probably the most enjoyable on any MMA game for me. Being able to progress through different level promotions and fight under different rule sets 🙌🏾
My favourite mma game of all time and the only one where i felt like an all round mma fighter where i was comfortable in every area of the fight, damn i wish i could play this again.
I know IM checking in late but for sure a career mode. You do such an OUTSTANDING job I look forward to your content like I did Friday night fights back in the day.
I loved this game back 2010. Multiplayer was bad ass. I wasn't that good but i could hold my own. i beat a top ranked player one time it was def one of my best gaming moments ever. Luv to see a play through. Brings back some fond memories.
This was a very solid game. It’s crazy because the depth was not really there as far as moves. But it was still fun and had the best “Vulnerability system” and sub system imo. The flash KO’s were great and not overdone and you’d still have plenty of decisions. The rules you can use. The sub system actually felt like a sub battle between man vs man and not man vs man vs machine. And the rating REALLY mattered. You weren’t gonna win a fight on the feet too easily with guys like Aoki. You had to fight to the fighters strengths. All of this made the game pretty damn good.
i played over 1000 ranked fights in this. the top 100 in this always fought each other too in fight cards. i remember we would have grand prix cards. so much bragging was had lol but what i loved was people would always help each other train to get better. my fav mma game yet.
@@sergioguarino7013 or remaster UFC Undisputed 3 or gives us 4 that would absolutely outsell EA's UFC 4 and then everybody would be happy casuals had they're game and hardcore simulation(what EA said UFC 1-4 should be😂😂👏👏) fans had they're game. Just glad the new boxing game will have a blocking system where u block 3 points on the body and 3 points on the head, by using 3 buttons. That's awesome bc it will be "too hard" for casuals and therefore shut them out. Looks like they wanna make a real boxing simulation yeah😀👍
@@sergioguarino7013 Wouldn't say better. but nearly on par. The textures are still better in the newer games, since they can process more complex graphics and patterns. But yeah if they remastered it id say it. might be better than. some of the new ufc games.
It’s so nice hearing frank shamrock commentating. I miss this games career. Having bas as your coach and being able to choose which organizations you go into next
I got some classic games out on the PS3 recently & have been loving 5his gake ever since. Shame the servers are gone, but if you get a second player you can have some wars!! The amount of blood Left all over the ring from the beating I put on my brother with short shots from the top over a 5th round ko was unbelievably satisfying! Such an underused game.
I loved this game, I got it when it first came out n just found my copy of it today. I had a couple fights for the first time in like 7 yrs n while I could barely remember the controls cause my natural instinct is to do what I'd do in current UFC games....It was still so fun to play, I love the striking n remember at the time it was so cool to have an MMA game that wasn't based on one company like a UFC roster n while StrikeForce is the main licensed brand, you have a roster of fighters, rings/cages n rule sets from around the world.
Whenever I played as Alistair Overeem and went against I think Bobby Lashley on Legend, I got like 5 to 7 one-punch knockouts, as in, first punch KO. Loved this game.
I used to love this game because the create a fighter and the ability to download custom creations. Everyone hated this game though idk why I guess cause no ufc license
Something about this game looks way more "3d" than EA UFC. Probably just the camera angle and crowd but it has a nice "feel" to the finished game. Considering how old it is that's pretty impressive.
20:12 when Mario Yamasaki is your ref
Legit was thinking the same thing
He hit him 17 times before they called it lol
Rip Fedor
That was b4 he started letting the fighters be “warriors” and take extra, extra punches😉🤪🥊
Wow the game looks incredible! I didn't know Nick was in this game! I also love how they have the Canadian legendary commentary Mauro Ranallo in this game! Awesome stuff brother!
You should treat us with a carrier 😜😜😜 gamplay if you have time
@@hfmarwen189 Carrier? How do you not know how to spell career?
@@Windbend3r my key bored 🥱 is on frensh when i right career
They had a nice roster.. Had guys like jason mayhem miller and bas rutten.. Plus they did frequent touneys that would be broadcast with actual live commentary.. It was crazy
😱
The way this game captured Nicks movement and boxing is so spot on
The career mode with bas rutten was goated
Facts
The game looks beautiful honestly. They capture nick striking better than ufc 4 it's sad
Perfectly captured 💯‼️👏🏽
Agreed, except it's only Nick's striking who's captured that well.
They wanted to capture it well back then when he was active...UFC 4 doesn't care about nick Diaz fight style..maybe he gets an upgrade after his upcoming fight
@@justinr6439 yeah i was thinking about that i hope so because 3,5 half stars is to low
It’s what I’ve been saying for years EA sports should go back and look at that game and use it as a template for the next edition. It’s like after they made mma they got LAZY when the got the contract.
Loved this game.👍 Yes ABSOLUTLEY we need a MARTIAL MIND CAF to do a career run.💯
I just bought an Xbox 360 copy on Amazon in the hopes it can do backwards compatiblity can you say if it does or doesn’t
@@venomousstriker4715 I don't know for sure if that game is backward compatible, but some 360 games are.
@@serdavezilla6494 I bought a 360 copy on Amazon yesterday and I was able to get fight night champion backwards compatible so I’m gonna seriously pray that it is
@@venomousstriker4715 it’s not
@@desmondjs1738 well damnit
This game was so fun online for the 11 months it was available.
The gameplay felt as natural as an somewhat arcadey MMA Game could feel is the best way to describe it.
I like how could rush with a flurry of punches in the first few seconds and get a KO if you catch the off guard.
But if they get their bearings back they can really make you pay for it.
Also once you get the feel of it,
The striking, clinching, takedowns and defense flowed in a way not seen before or since.
The MMA Gods decided we aren't worthy of an EA MMA 2.
Yea the only mma game that i had a one punch flash ko within seconds online. I love how someone could get koed stiff if they came out to aggressive spamming. And the parrying system was the best in this game
Is it backwards compatible on the one?
Came here to say this. EA MMA was one of the only fighting games I've played online because it was really pretty random in a fun way. I loved the streamed showcase fight nights where they had announcers. I was very disappointed when they just shut down the servers so quick, and now no one can get any of those achievements. If you know you are going to shut down the online portion so quickly then you shouldnt make a good chunk of achievements about the online game.
I loved this game aswell dude 👍I played online for hours a day earning a black belt with red tip 😁 great great memories 👍
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Them flury of punches with nick diaz looking like porier when he stuns somebody irl 🤣
Bro I was thinking the same shit Lmao
I absolutely love this game. The venues, rule sets, old school fighters, in depth stats, sub system and my all time favorite is the DAMAGE SYSTEM. Fights can literally end in a flash if landed cleanly. The blood on fighters and the mats after a long grueling fight is just satisfying. Even the way fighters drop after getting hit Ko'd or knocked down was gorgeous to watch. This was truly an authentic MMA game and by far my favorite MMA game of all time outside UD 3.
A game that actually captured Nick Diaz’ punches absolutely BEAUTIFUL😭
I love that they made Nick unique instead of having regular punches. They need to do that with everyone. They also need to do that more nowadays. Every Fighter should feel unique. Great Video Martial
The new boxing game coming out soon is doing this too! Looks great. Much better than the standard Lego like bodies in the new ufc games.
@@whatisthisthing7465 man everyone keeps bringing that game up… its not doin it for me. Its not mma.. its not fighting… it is boxing.. pretty cool but not feelin it.. ill play it but it doesn’t replace mma for me.
@@NewDesignVinylGraphics Don't get me wrong, I'll probably still be playing ufc 3 when it comes out. Maybe I'm biased because I love fight night champion. But a proper next gen fighting game with a studio that's putting some real effort into it be it boxing or mma, I'm hype.
@@NewDesignVinylGraphics so boxing isn't fighting now?
@@NewDesignVinylGraphics I’m a bigger MMA fan than anything else and never watch boxing. But I’d much rather play a quality boxing game than a shitty mma game and we only have shitty mma games recently.
17:00 yes you should, i never picked this one up, so it'll be cool to see the campaign mode.
Man you’ve been killing it with the content uploads right now, mad respect!👊🏼
I remember picking this game up on a bargain, $5.00 brand new! I wasn’t expecting much going into it, but was amazed. I think of this game more than UFC’s entries and that says a lot!
Please do the career mode! It would be such a breath of fresh air.
That would be siiick
This was my favorite mma game till EA UFC 3. Everyone talk about how good was Undisputed 3 but i am on the other side. Striking is very sluggish in all Undisputed games. EA MMA was like a fresh breath.
Agreed, I love older games more than anyone but I prefer EA UFC 2 to the Undisputed games.
@@sukhdevr3489 ufc 2 was the first game i got on my bday a few years back loved it ever since the rag doll physics were pretty funny given the right ko
The undisputed games were great because of attention to detail and the ground game. The striking was rough though, it felt like I was always winging hooks. You have to let go of the left stick to throw jabs and straights and you never connect with those. The striking in ufc 4 is the best it’s been but that’s about the only good thing from the game.
Idk what your smoking because the striking in ea mma looks so sluggish, wonky, clumsy and looks like absolute shi+. Should've just copied fight night champions jab, straight, hooks, and uppercut animations. Undisputed 3 has way better striking animations and a better and more deeper system. And yea, I know people don't really like the system where you need to move to throw hooks and you need to stay still to throw JABS and straights, but everything else in ud3 made it the greatest mma/ufc game of all time. The striking, grappling, realism, mechanics, ground and pound, submissions, ragdoll knockouts, doctor stoppages, ground tko's, etc.
You’re crazy. Undisputed 3 shits on ea mma forsure. It has a way better striking system and knockouts. Career mode is way deeper with pride being a career route and it looks better so really ea mma has nothing on it
I just remember that one achievement you get for beating Fedor on on the hardest mode , it was low-key hard 😂
I somehow created a CAF that would wreck Fedor and got this achievement pretty easily. This was also the game I did a lot of celeb CAFs because of Game Face and whatever names you could choose. I know I had both LaVar Burton and Jack Burton (Kurt Russell) and my own face on CAF. That was fun.
@@metheus108 how accurate was the game face ? Did your caf look alot like you
@@SuperSohSo It was ok, a little uncanny valley but it was like a rough digital cartoon version of your face. I found it more fun to grab celeb images and use those, I think I only made a couple with my face for CAFs because it was just a little too weird
I beat Fedor with Andrei Arlovski after many attempts. The glass chin is noticeable.
The replays, hit response animations, intro sequences, body types & submission game are still miles ahead of UFC 4.
I also like how there’s no knockdowns every 20 secs
That combo on fedor was absolutely beautiful. Makes you wonder why ea changed everything. Just so fluid
This game was such a blast. The fighter damage looked so real. Vale tudo rules were so sick. The KO ragdoll was awesome too! Movement definitely floaty and ground game was real simple, but it was fun as heck.
I will never get why these same devs make UFC 4 a rock fest. I love the feeling of a well timed counter and finishing someone early. It feels like that happens on occasion and not as a norm in UFC 4. Flash KOs and shit like that got me into watching MMA in the first place!
This game was garbage lol
Nicks model better than in ufc 4
Nick's animation too looks so much better than Ufc 4.
@@arthurmorgan3020 howdy
Except they made him 6’1 when he’s actually 6’0.
This game actually made me a hardcore mma fan. I was barley a mma fan at the time of the games release, but I played this game around 2015, and I got addicted. The career mode was awesome.
A career mode series of this would be fire
For a game that came out in 2010 this has surprisingly great character models.
This was when EA actually tried to make good games
5:30
That’s honestly not a bad Tito character model
EA MMA was a super underrated game. Actually wish I could go back and play it. The career mode was probably the most enjoyable on any MMA game for me. Being able to progress through different level promotions and fight under different rule sets 🙌🏾
My favourite mma game of all time and the only one where i felt like an all round mma fighter where i was comfortable in every area of the fight, damn i wish i could play this again.
well they said UFC wasn't a sport, its a brand, they "wanted" to do a MMA game. I fought on some of the ea mma online broadcast cards, wasn't bad.
Loved watching the online broadcast cards. I was so bummed when they shut it down after so short a time.
@@metheus108 was one of the best things going for the game
I know, its kind of sad but I actually would look forward to broadcast nights and take time to just enjoy it like it was a real card
I would watch those all the time. They were really cool and ahead of its time.
I know IM checking in late but for sure a career mode. You do such an OUTSTANDING job I look forward to your content like I did Friday night fights back in the day.
This games deserves another video
Best feeling of impact
Best punches after ko
Best punch sound
Best aponnent reaction to hit
Of ALL MMA GAMES
I loved this game back 2010. Multiplayer was bad ass. I wasn't that good but i could hold my own. i beat a top ranked player one time it was def one of my best gaming moments ever. Luv to see a play through. Brings back some fond memories.
Probably the most realstic punching in mma game ever
UFC 4 better be martial mind vs Jim Miller
This was a very solid game. It’s crazy because the depth was not really there as far as moves. But it was still fun and had the best “Vulnerability system” and sub system imo.
The flash KO’s were great and not overdone and you’d still have plenty of decisions. The rules you can use. The sub system actually felt like a sub battle between man vs man and not man vs man vs machine. And the rating REALLY mattered. You weren’t gonna win a fight on the feet too easily with guys like Aoki. You had to fight to the fighters strengths. All of this made the game pretty damn good.
This looks like one of those games you’d call your friends over to play, I dig it.
צודק לגמרי אחי
nate diaz Striking animations look super good
I’ve been following this series to determine if I should go down memory lane. Do the career mode for MMA would love to see it.
that game looks great, you should definetly revisit it and play career mode
the crowd looks hype af when you rock someone.. nice touch
We gotta get an Arthur Morgan showcase in rdr2
Lmao
Lmao im enjoying tf out of rdr2 rn and did not expect him to be mentioned here 😂
@@peezy1942 Arthur dies
@@2119D the games is damn near 3 years old you're not spoiling anything...
@@2119D next you'll tell me we play as John Marston afterwards
Please do the career mode! This game and UFC undisputed 3 were my favorites!
i played over 1000 ranked fights in this. the top 100 in this always fought each other too in fight cards. i remember we would have grand prix cards. so much bragging was had lol but what i loved was people would always help each other train to get better. my fav mma game yet.
Love the new format, it stands out way better than your old video style bro
YES please do a career mode !
Insanely cool that these games had Fedor and Couture and Bob Sapp, Bas Rutten, Kevin Randleman, Shamrock Brothers, even Melvin Manhoef.
I’d definitely love to see more gameplay of this game. I’d watch a career mode series for sure!
This game was amazing with the wrist control also, a lot of things are here but yet not present on the newer games.
“Time to stop fighting like a pussy!” Is the most Diaz thing you could’ve said lol
Definitely do career mode 🤙🏽
Career mode sounds good
Still need that UFC trainer game! Looking forward to it!
Lmao "Where's Fedor?". How is it not obvious it's alphabetical by last name? 🤣🤣
Yea i can only imagine how much fun online was
The fact that it looks nearly as good as the new ufc 4 game…
It looks better tho, they could release this game with better graphics and it would outsell ufc 4
@@sergioguarino7013 or remaster UFC Undisputed 3 or gives us 4 that would absolutely outsell EA's UFC 4 and then everybody would be happy casuals had they're game and hardcore simulation(what EA said UFC 1-4 should be😂😂👏👏) fans had they're game.
Just glad the new boxing game will have a blocking system where u block 3 points on the body and 3 points on the head, by using 3 buttons. That's awesome bc it will be "too hard" for casuals and therefore shut them out. Looks like they wanna make a real boxing simulation yeah😀👍
@@sergioguarino7013 Wouldn't say better. but nearly on par. The textures are still better in the newer games, since they can process more complex graphics and patterns. But yeah if they remastered it id say it. might be better than. some of the new ufc games.
I'd 100% love a career mode series on this
You should definetly do the career mode
Soccer kicks and head stomps were the best part about that game
It’s so nice hearing frank shamrock commentating. I miss this games career. Having bas as your coach and being able to choose which organizations you go into next
My request for 2 years
Plz play more of this martial
“That’s my thumbnail”
Plot twist: That wasn’t his thumbnail.
All the OGs that played online remember the number1 guy in the world Corey, dude was so good
9:25 LMAOOO why he say it like that😭 i love Martial lmfao
I was top 20 in this game back in the day and I remember knowing as soon as I got the back the game was over, my opponents could never get up
This is definitely my most played favourite MMA game of all time
I love how the character models look almost the exact same at ufc 4
U should fight fedor with sapp
sapp will fall to the ground and tap tho lol
You want me to die?
Why am I kind of impressed by an Ea game 👀👀
@@KZ_MMA_ More so talking about EA sports 🤣
Cause it's when they actually gave a fck.. 😂
I miss this game.. They had frequent tourneys with live broadcast and live commentary. It was dope
I used to love EA MMA. I love all the options available to the player, especially the ring/arena/ruleset options, it was a great game.
I can’t wait for the career mode series if you do it, man.
Mauro Ranallo on commentary? 10/10
Ngl that isreal pic behind him in his videos is so cool yo idk if it’s just me lol
the game looks sooo smooth!! The follow up on the first knock down was mad.
Love this series keep it up brother
I got some classic games out on the PS3 recently & have been loving 5his gake ever since. Shame the servers are gone, but if you get a second player you can have some wars!! The amount of blood Left all over the ring from the beating I put on my brother with short shots from the top over a 5th round ko was unbelievably satisfying! Such an underused game.
Yes, absolutely. I would love to see you do career mode ...before or after the fight night series?
I loved this game, I got it when it first came out n just found my copy of it today. I had a couple fights for the first time in like 7 yrs n while I could barely remember the controls cause my natural instinct is to do what I'd do in current UFC games....It was still so fun to play, I love the striking n remember at the time it was so cool to have an MMA game that wasn't based on one company like a UFC roster n while StrikeForce is the main licensed brand, you have a roster of fighters, rings/cages n rule sets from around the world.
Not just a beautiful headkick but a beautiful sequence
I'd love to see a playthrough for this game's career mode
Whenever I played as Alistair Overeem and went against I think Bobby Lashley on Legend, I got like 5 to 7 one-punch knockouts, as in, first punch KO. Loved this game.
My face scan in this game was the most realistic looking version of me out of any game I’ve ever played in my life.
never played this one but sort of reminds of EA sports UFC 2 with the striking mechanics
I've been seriously loving this series
that overseen gnp was ridiculous
You should try this arcade game called supremacy mma. It’s brutal and fun check it out bro !
And Bellattor MMA. Its still available in Xbox Store through backwards compatibility, like Fight Night Champion
@@quadlius Martial checked out the Bellator game a while back on the channel. It's truly awful.
@LUAN JAGUAR KING 1993 facts bro i started playing the career on one of the fighters it’s not bad
I used to play this on my 360 it was so fun in career mode
lol 14:19 your Cain Velasquez CAF looks like Jordan Peele 🤣
Think you
The way you can customize the set is so cool...
That Nick Diaz looks closer to real life Nick than UFC 4’s does
Loved this game especially the different fight modes/leagues. Best mma game of all time.
9:18 after he said he said let's go he rips the most vicious combo
That headkick was different 🤣🤯💯
I used to love this game because the create a fighter and the ability to download custom creations. Everyone hated this game though idk why I guess cause no ufc license
MARTIAL WE LOVE THIS 90K VIEWS
You should do a fighter showcase on Bruce buffer
Something about this game looks way more "3d" than EA UFC. Probably just the camera angle and crowd but it has a nice "feel" to the finished game. Considering how old it is that's pretty impressive.
The first time Nick Diaz and Robbie Lawler fall was that Mandalay Bay