I really like the class commentary between these two. Gohan and Videl come from extremely different walks of life - with Gohan being the son of a country bumpkin and a traditional Chinese princess, and Videl being a privileged, scrappy skeptic who questions everything around her. Despite their class differences, two good people will do whatever it takes to protect the world. Their passion for fighting bleeds into their passion for each other. I mean, Gohan’s a regular Casanova, who could resist basically Superman?
DBS Videl kinda makes sense to me. I'm not gonna say it is the best thing they could do with the character, but I can only imagine her reaction after hearing Gohan nonchalantly tell her how about when he watched he father die the second time, or how the guy who left him alone in the desert for 6 months as a kid became his best friend, or how her dad stole valor for years from when he saved the world. She worships him and is probably trying to compensate for whatever happened to him in the past.
The last part, I think Gohan would never said that out of his mouth, but Videl instantly understood that he's the true savior of earth, and her being quite the honorable woman, she have gone all her way out during her marriage for Gohan to be valued and appreciated.
"Bulma and Vegeta as a couple is overrated, Videl and Gohan really have a development in their relationship making them the best Dragon Ball couple" -a wise man
Videl in Super is fine imo. That's her arc. Her whole reason for fighting is that she believed that her dad was the greatest, and no man could ever measure up to him. Videl always had her guard up because if a guy couldn't handle her as a fighter, there was no way they could live up to Hercule. When she discovered Gohan, suddenly there was a guy who not only lived up to Hercule, he was the hero that Hercule pretended to be. With that illusion shattered, she no longer had to put up that front. Videl settling down is growth. She got exactly what she wanted. That's her happily ever after. And she still does martial arts in Super Hero. She's just not a freakishly powerful character who fights aliens and stuff.
I think your perspective on the whole DBS Videl mellowing out sentiment is probably the best take I've seen on it yet, period. Though, I'd like to add that the thing I cannot fathom and despise the most about the dragon ball fandom is the misinterpretation or basic misunderstanding of specific characters who've changed the way they did ultimately because of "bad writing" on Toriyama's end (either that or they clearly never bothered to actually watch the show) which simply does not apply here, at least not for Videl. She's always had a passion for martial artists (especially given her job as a martial arts teacher) and her feisty personality since Z never actually left her character, even if it's not NOTICEABLY there, she has her moments where it's properly displayed because she simply isn't as impulsive as she used to be as a teen. She's literally a mother now to a daughter and is living her best life with the family she has now, it should come to no surprise why over the years she's essentially "matured" in a sense, and became more reasonable.
in super, videl became what chichi became in Z. a trophy wife that has (almost) no relevance because the husband is several orders of magnitude stronger. but in the buu saga videl and gohan work truly well since they are oposites with the same goal.
Really happy to see a video about this, always were my favorite couple in dragon ball z, I can't get over how much they work together. The Saiyan episodes are still my favorite stretch of episodes in all of Dragon Ball. Videl was one of my favorite characters up until Super because of course Toriyama just had to make another house wife.
Nah, I don't think DBS Assassinated Videl's Character, more liked it Retired her Character just to be a Normal Housewife, was likely due to her fight with Spovovitch had completely Traumatized her so much that she was likely forced to Retire from Crime Fighting, Videl's change of Character in DBS was already similar to her "End of Z" counterpart. I mean, it's the similar thing to what happened with Chi Chi who was once a badass Female Fighter during her Battle with Goku in the 23rd Tournament Saga in "OG Dragon Ball," but soon as they got Married she retires from Fighting to become a Normal Housewife throughout the rest of DBZ and even DBS for that matter.
Fair take, I just personally didn’t even like it with Chi Chi either. But I definitely can’t blame anyone for not wanting to fight anymore after all that trauma 😂
Yeah, I definitely agree. Toriyama was definitely a legendary writer for action and comedy which is what DB is mainly a fusion of, but the romance parts you can tell were definitely not his forte. I know MasakoX has a similar gripe with the romance in the story, for most of the things in DB we’re shown progression like in fights and training, but for romance we’re just told that it happens.
The only thing that I'll never understand is why the writers felt bothered to design videl with long hair only to then permanently replace it with short butch style haircuts for the remainder of the series.
I’m so glad the stupid acting arc in dbs was not included in the manga. Don’t get me wrong, I love seeing more of Videl but that filler episode did it so wrong by making it some “not cheating but cheating” subplot because cocoa forced herself onto Gohan and kissed him. Toei could’ve just done a fun episode of the husband and wife duo going out as saiyaman and saiyawoman together after so long, I would’ve loved that; but nooooo... All in all… I’m just really glad that shit didn’t exist in the manga (Toriyama would never have done some shit like that. I find it disrespectful to him and his characters). I like to believe that stupid arc just never even existed altogether.
They’ve got really different personalities and they compliment each other. There’s a filler episode in dbs where she is shouting at his father and gohan is just standing behind her- the Barry arc-I think that one moment really represents their dinamic, they care a lot for each other and are always tending each other’s needs. Remember gohan stopped training because videl was pregnant, he was very out of shape he couldn’t even fight frieza
their wired like Male Saiyans like Strong Women, Gohan sees himself as more Human but his Saiyan side screams "GET THIS STRONG WOMAN NAMED VIDEL SHE PERFECT FOR YOU!" and Piccolo in the background "NOT GOHAN TOOO!"
Gohan is what Videl thought her father was. Not just as the guy who beat Cell but a genuine hero and the strongest man in the world. Videl thought her dad was like a superhero. She couldn't comprehend that she was already stronger than Hercule because, in her mind, he was invincible. Gohan shattered that illusion, but Gohan was also happy to let her believe Hercule was the strongest. Videl was the one who forced that information out of Gohan. He had a humility that Hercule lacked. Gohan showed Videl what a real hero is, so he became her hero in place of her dad.
For me, it’s more relatable than Goku and Chi Chi, or Vegeta and Bulma (or Yamaha and Bulma) (as far as DB relationship goes). Goku was my favorite character until Cell saga where Trunks temporary took over (I thought he was a really cool as a kid), then Gohan. During Teen (highschool) Gohan days, Gohan became my favorite, because he’s more relatable and believable than Goku. Gohan is more “Clark Kent” than Goku is. Too bad, majority of Manga and Anime fans still prefer Goku as main character.
I really like the class commentary between these two. Gohan and Videl come from extremely different walks of life - with Gohan being the son of a country bumpkin and a traditional Chinese princess, and Videl being a privileged, scrappy skeptic who questions everything around her. Despite their class differences, two good people will do whatever it takes to protect the world. Their passion for fighting bleeds into their passion for each other. I mean, Gohan’s a regular Casanova, who could resist basically Superman?
Exactly 😮💨 I just love their clash of lifestyles that eventually turns into synergy
Well, Gohan does come from royalty… lol he’s the Ox Daemon Prince from his mother side.
@@gene081976 Right, it’s kinda like an old money and new money situation.
DBS Videl kinda makes sense to me. I'm not gonna say it is the best thing they could do with the character, but I can only imagine her reaction after hearing Gohan nonchalantly tell her how about when he watched he father die the second time, or how the guy who left him alone in the desert for 6 months as a kid became his best friend, or how her dad stole valor for years from when he saved the world. She worships him and is probably trying to compensate for whatever happened to him in the past.
The last part, I think Gohan would never said that out of his mouth, but Videl instantly understood that he's the true savior of earth, and her being quite the honorable woman, she have gone all her way out during her marriage for Gohan to be valued and appreciated.
I feel like if they didnt change her personality she would be more like a chill version of chichi, still with spunk but not batshit insane
"Bulma and Vegeta as a couple is overrated, Videl and Gohan really have a development in their relationship making them the best Dragon Ball couple"
-a wise man
Facts
Which couple do you think is better: Gohan and Videl? Or Krillin and Android 18?
@@noelhaynes9608 pretty hard question but i just like Videl and gohan just a little more
@@takagi-san9710 That's good to know. I like Gohan and Videl, too.
@@noelhaynes9608While I like both I am going for Gohan/Videl because we got to see the relationship develop onscreen.
Videl in Super is fine imo. That's her arc. Her whole reason for fighting is that she believed that her dad was the greatest, and no man could ever measure up to him. Videl always had her guard up because if a guy couldn't handle her as a fighter, there was no way they could live up to Hercule. When she discovered Gohan, suddenly there was a guy who not only lived up to Hercule, he was the hero that Hercule pretended to be. With that illusion shattered, she no longer had to put up that front. Videl settling down is growth. She got exactly what she wanted. That's her happily ever after. And she still does martial arts in Super Hero. She's just not a freakishly powerful character who fights aliens and stuff.
I think your perspective on the whole DBS Videl mellowing out sentiment is probably the best take I've seen on it yet, period. Though, I'd like to add that the thing I cannot fathom and despise the most about the dragon ball fandom is the misinterpretation or basic misunderstanding of specific characters who've changed the way they did ultimately because of "bad writing" on Toriyama's end (either that or they clearly never bothered to actually watch the show) which simply does not apply here, at least not for Videl. She's always had a passion for martial artists (especially given her job as a martial arts teacher) and her feisty personality since Z never actually left her character, even if it's not NOTICEABLY there, she has her moments where it's properly displayed because she simply isn't as impulsive as she used to be as a teen. She's literally a mother now to a daughter and is living her best life with the family she has now, it should come to no surprise why over the years she's essentially "matured" in a sense, and became more reasonable.
videl got ptsd from spopovich
One has a super Saiyan dad and the other has a "Super" human dad
in super, videl became what chichi became in Z.
a trophy wife that has (almost) no relevance because the husband is several orders of magnitude stronger.
but in the buu saga videl and gohan work truly well since they are oposites with the same goal.
Really happy to see a video about this, always were my favorite couple in dragon ball z, I can't get over how much they work together. The Saiyan episodes are still my favorite stretch of episodes in all of Dragon Ball. Videl was one of my favorite characters up until Super because of course Toriyama just had to make another house wife.
Gohan and Videl are one of my favorite Dragon Ball couples. I think the way their relationship developed felt very natural.
Nah, I don't think DBS Assassinated Videl's Character, more liked it Retired her Character just to be a Normal Housewife, was likely due to her fight with Spovovitch had completely Traumatized her so much that she was likely forced to Retire from Crime Fighting, Videl's change of Character in DBS was already similar to her "End of Z" counterpart.
I mean, it's the similar thing to what happened with Chi Chi who was once a badass Female Fighter during her Battle with Goku in the 23rd Tournament Saga in "OG Dragon Ball," but soon as they got Married she retires from Fighting to become a Normal Housewife throughout the rest of DBZ and even DBS for that matter.
Fair take, I just personally didn’t even like it with Chi Chi either. But I definitely can’t blame anyone for not wanting to fight anymore after all that trauma 😂
Videl trying to fight again and overcoming her trauma that would make a great story if it doesn't happen in canon there's always fanfictions
Tbh one thing I don’t like about db is the lack of romance I guess, like with vegeta and bulma, nothing going on and then boom baby trunks is here.
Yeah, I definitely agree. Toriyama was definitely a legendary writer for action and comedy which is what DB is mainly a fusion of, but the romance parts you can tell were definitely not his forte. I know MasakoX has a similar gripe with the romance in the story, for most of the things in DB we’re shown progression like in fights and training, but for romance we’re just told that it happens.
0:04 the guy who commented on TFS: “You dodge attacks, you accept gifts.”
The slice of life in Dragon Ball was always my favorite.
Good video bro!
Thank you 🙏🏾
@Amiracole Yah bro I would love a Part 2!!
Gohan didn't have a normal day in his life since he was kidnapped by Raditz.
The only thing that I'll never understand is why the writers felt bothered to design videl with long hair only to then permanently replace it with short butch style haircuts for the remainder of the series.
It was such a goated design too 😓 very tragic
I guess it was done for the sake of blue balling the viewers.
Yeah 😭 also “I hate Videl!”? 😂
Contrary to popular opinion I don't really care for her. Her writing is very inconsistent, talk about a disappointment. What a complete dud.
Too much inking, same thing with the super Saiyan transformation. It helped cut time.
I’m so glad the stupid acting arc in dbs was not included in the manga. Don’t get me wrong, I love seeing more of Videl but that filler episode did it so wrong by making it some “not cheating but cheating” subplot because cocoa forced herself onto Gohan and kissed him. Toei could’ve just done a fun episode of the husband and wife duo going out as saiyaman and saiyawoman together after so long, I would’ve loved that; but nooooo... All in all… I’m just really glad that shit didn’t exist in the manga (Toriyama would never have done some shit like that. I find it disrespectful to him and his characters). I like to believe that stupid arc just never even existed altogether.
1:15 Thank you for calling him Hercule☺
They’ve got really different personalities and they compliment each other. There’s a filler episode in dbs where she is shouting at his father and gohan is just standing behind her- the Barry arc-I think that one moment really represents their dinamic, they care a lot for each other and are always tending each other’s needs. Remember gohan stopped training because videl was pregnant, he was very out of shape he couldn’t even fight frieza
I’m also a fan of the Great Saiyaman fun I feel like some people just want to hate on any kind of slice of life elements
Y’all… who did it best?
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their wired like Male Saiyans like Strong Women, Gohan sees himself as more Human but his Saiyan side screams "GET THIS STRONG WOMAN NAMED VIDEL SHE PERFECT FOR YOU!" and Piccolo in the background "NOT GOHAN TOOO!"
Gohan is what Videl thought her father was. Not just as the guy who beat Cell but a genuine hero and the strongest man in the world. Videl thought her dad was like a superhero. She couldn't comprehend that she was already stronger than Hercule because, in her mind, he was invincible. Gohan shattered that illusion, but Gohan was also happy to let her believe Hercule was the strongest. Videl was the one who forced that information out of Gohan. He had a humility that Hercule lacked. Gohan showed Videl what a real hero is, so he became her hero in place of her dad.
Fun fact, Videl is a year older than Gohan
For me, it’s more relatable than Goku and Chi Chi, or Vegeta and Bulma (or Yamaha and Bulma) (as far as DB relationship goes). Goku was my favorite character until Cell saga where Trunks temporary took over (I thought he was a really cool as a kid), then Gohan. During Teen (highschool) Gohan days, Gohan became my favorite, because he’s more relatable and believable than Goku. Gohan is more “Clark Kent” than Goku is.
Too bad, majority of Manga and Anime fans still prefer Goku as main character.
Imma newbie...but this was a cool breakdown!!