I used to love when all the cast and production would get together on the end of each holiday episode and wish the viewers happy holidays iy was so heartwarming and sadly in the last few yrs they stopped doing that :(
exactly they toyed with it back then but nothing ever came of it, that was the only Thomas that i liked, he also looked more like Ridge, he was the only one i liked seing Hope with other than the wuss, ping pong guy who was so easily led by his tail, or shall i say Steffy's cha cha chas. he also had no backbone where his father was concerned, there is no way in hell i would have kept bouncing back and fourth from the lovely Hope until the dust settled, love suppose to conquer all, Liam had no fight in him and would just blow with the wind to spite being manipulated by Steffy and his dad. Hope deserved so much more, Steffy was good settling for crumbs.
Brooke cooked a pot roast for the Forrester’s when she first moved in back in 1989 (?) and they loved it. She knew her way around a kitchen. They all grew up cooking in the Logan kitchen so it seems odd that they have made them out to not know the way around a kitchen.
@@mileysugrim5667 she didnt have to hold a gun, she was so good at manipulating Liam with his father's help. settlingg for crumbs knowing Liam's heart belong to Hope, Steffy and Bill took advantage that Liam had no backbone.
He foolishly proposed to Steffy the first time 5 minutes after Hope called off their first engagement, he and Steffy weren’t even dating when that happened
Brooke and Donna can't cook they don't know what they are doing it's very very funny what they are doing to that turkey poor turkey.... Mom taught me how to cook etc turkey etc I was very young....
They can cook. They grew up cooking so this lack of kitchen skills is stupid. There dad ditched them as kids. There mom worked all the time to raise four kids. So they always cooked. They couldn't afford eating out every day.
This. I always thought this was so dumb. Donna and Katie and brooke all cooked when they lived with there mom and storm. There mom worked all the time. Theybhad to step up and cook. So this ineptitude in the kitchen is dumb
Surely, Ridge, you know something is wrong with Steffy's marriage, if you have to remind Liam that he is married to her. No matter, how many Scandals, Brooke has had, nobody ever has to remind you, that she is your wife. Ridge, you are the one, who is always screaming to everyone that Brooke is your wife, even here, when you are not technically married. Because you are wholeheartedly committed to her and in love with her, unlike Liam to Steffy.
@@darnellanders8768 Ever heard how often Ridge would say: 'Mother leave my wife alone, Thomas, you can't be like that with my wife, Steffy, Brooke is my wife, Hello Dazzy, I am Brooke's husband. When the media called him about Brooke and Oliver' Scandal, Ridge was like: 'I fully support my wife'. Ridge never let's us forget, Brooke is his wife but he has to remind Liam.
@@eunicemafaesa9632 oh yeah.. Even still though I liked that Ridge better. He like Taylor would never hold Steffy accountable which is probably why she never learned. She like Liam would never enforce there words.. I was touched that Ridge made that statement to Hope at her and Liam's wedding in France on the beach before the whole townspeople that he looked at Hope as his own daughter and it was never a question of taking sides ..when that's actually what he did. They all knew it was Steffy who insinuated herself in between Liam and Hope with manipulation and lies...I hated that she would demean herself for Liam as if he was the cleaners only guy around .Liam told her on numerous occasions that he loved Hope and wanted to spend his life with her...she just wasn't hearing it ..then of course Liam got hooked on Steffy s cha cha chas ..he just blows with the wind.. If he couldn't have Hope he would just as well settle for Steffy without even waiting till the dust settle.. Instead of fighting for Hope he took advantage of Steffy who offered it up..not wanting to be alone... He had no faith in Hope... I still believe Hope can do better.
@@eunicemafaesa9632 oh yeah Steffy was more like Brooke than Hope.. Steffy tried with Oliver Hopes first boyfriend who declined. Oliver made a huge mistake with Brooke unknowingly ..he should known that Hope wouldn't want her first time on a dance floor. That's worst than the janitors closet. Hope couldn't get past that so she gravitated to Liam the wuss..now Ridge of course could expect that from Brooke who got down with him in the elevator I believe ..those episodes were the hottest ..just didn't like the tit for tat and flipping the script. Now they R stuck on game changers and twisted love triangles...
@@eunicemafaesa9632 BTW I was even more touched when dollar Bill made his statement to Hope that he was sorry and that he would except her as his daughter without question and that Liam did good... Later on though that marriage was null in void .Hope saw that disgusting video of Steffy sprawled out on the bed with Liam over top of her...
Yes!!! Yes!!! He is... But I'm kinda of glad they changed the Thomas, because I would have been disappointed if the gorgeous Thomas was playing this insane person. This Thomas could play Clark Kent.
Tell me abt it! I liked the Pierson Fodé Thomas most. Adam Gregory was okay. Matthew Atkinson, I'm not a big fan of. But I absolutely hate Drew Tyler bell.
@@staceypaquette5483 No she got there to late and they didn’t even faw the bird out,thank god for Bill, I know I wouldn’t want them to cook for me, Lol
Steffy shouldn't have to accept them as part of her family. Why is Hope so hellbent on getting Steffy to like her? Steffy has made abundantly clear multiple times that she does not like Hope. She does not like her. She does not consider Hope to be her sister. She does not consider her to be family. She does not believe that Hope should be working at Forrester Creations. Steffy is not interested in having any kind of a friendship with Hope. Brooke should be teaching her daughter to leave Steffy alone. Not everyone in life is gonna like you, no matter how nice and kind and sweet you are to them. Leave it alone. If Steffy doesn't like you its not the end of the world. I have never seen someone so persistent in getting another person to like them. That's dedication right here.
@@RealTalk1411 Steffy may not have to like Hope, but she damn well should respect her! Brooke has every right to expect Steffy to stop messing with her daughter. If anything, Steffy should leave her alone, not the other way around.
poor Steffy was so desperate back then, and she didnt need to be, it sure didnt do anything for her beauty kissing up to Liam knowing she had ordered Bill to trap Hope on the gondala.
Taylor is just so blasted off,yea Ridge and how many times u were married to both Taylor and Brooke bt when ur with one u tinking of d other one how noble of u
Nobody made liam say i do and he the one who put ring on steffy finger and asked her marry him. And secondly he could left her after finding out the truth he chose to stay with his wife.
Lmao Donna and Brooke mother was a caterer and neither one of them knows how to cook 😂. Guess it makes since. Donna is the dumb one and Brooke was the popular one and Katie was the nerdy one who paid attention to what mom was doing
i cant recall if this is after Steffy maried Liam on the mountain top as Hope was stuck in the gondala or the time after she trapped him into marriage because she was pregnant?? i do know months later Liam annulled the marriage when he found out.
Liam didn't have it annulled.Steffy asked for a divorce, because she told Liam if it was annulled then it would mean their marriage didn't mean anything. Hope and Liam had to wait 6 months to marry.
@staceypaquette5483 Well Steffy eventually did sign the annulment papers but Liam tore them up and threw them in the river in Aspen. He never told Hope that. So it was Liam fault they had to wait
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Yeah I remember that as well. He was great at blowing with the wind early on with his indecisiveness. I will never see him in the same light. He has no fight in him nor a romantic bone in his body. Stuffy ho only wanted him to one up Brooke something she felt her mom couldn't do. She felt it was safe to cheat on Liam with his dad because Hope wasn't around. all that after Liam chose her over Ivy..
@darnellanders8768 Ehhh I wouldn't say that. There has been plenty of episodes where Liam has been romantic with Hope and Steffy. Liam's decision has always been his indecisiveness. He never just owns and be honest with how he feels. Instead he just keeps things inside and just go with the wind as you say. And Steffy did want and love Liam. Believe me if it was just about beating The Logans then she would have got bored with that quickly. She went through too much for Liam for it all to be part of some silly family grudge. Nah she loved the guy, but like Hope figured out this year, Steffy realized that as much as she loves Liam and he loves her, Liam will always love Hope as well and Steffy wanted a man who only wanted her
Hope and Thomas take an picture with Santa Clause! That’s how much of a picture with Santa was when I was 13 years old in 2014! Now I have even more reason to dislike these two! You two adult taking pictures with Santa Clause! It’s also very uncomfortable to see Thomas around children knowing when he goes on to do!
omgash I hate ridge coming on to Liam every chance he gets so if he was talking to hope so what the way he's insecure about staffy,s marriage to Liam is disrespecting Liam like he doesn't anything about hounoring commitment whenever they get problems with brooke he runs to tylar so annoying
She was a Supermodel named Kelly Hopkins. She and Bill were college sweethearts and they conceived Liam but she never told Bill she was pregnant with his baby..She died of Breast cancer and after she died, Liam came to LA to find his dad. The rest was history
I love that they say Grace before the meal. just beautiful. So sad this is Stephanies last Christmas 😭
"The Logan women are famous for other things". 😂 Brook for one is legendary😉
I always loved Brooke!
I used to love when all the cast and production would get together on the end of each holiday episode and wish the viewers happy holidays iy was so heartwarming and sadly in the last few yrs they stopped doing that :(
Well they stopped bringing the whole family together on christmas also..
This thomas and this hope would have been the perfect couple!
exactly they toyed with it back then but nothing ever came of it, that was the only Thomas that i liked, he also looked more like Ridge, he was the only one i liked seing Hope with other than the wuss, ping pong guy who was so easily led by his tail, or shall i say Steffy's cha cha chas. he also had no backbone where his father was concerned, there is no way in hell i would have kept bouncing back and fourth from the lovely Hope until the dust settled, love suppose to conquer all, Liam had no fight in him and would just blow with the wind to spite being manipulated by Steffy and his dad. Hope deserved so much more, Steffy was good settling for crumbs.
I agree. Her and Tom
Or her and wyatt
They were better matches for her than liam ever was.
But they had to push the triangle narrative
Cmon Hope. You had a wonderful day of fun and laughter with Thomas and as soon as you get to the house, your mind goes right back to Liam
bill the saver yesssss he knew the moment brook and donna were in that kitchen that he had to save christmas
"Any booby head can cook a turkey?" Tell that to the poor bird they just massacred! Lol
That little turkey for all them people ☺️
Right
Lol Liam holding hands with Steffy and Hope. The two halfs of his heart and the future mothers of his daughters
That actually the most beautiful way to look at it!
Hope and Thomas were really cute in these old episode.
Brooke cooked a pot roast for the Forrester’s when she first moved in back in 1989 (?) and they loved it. She knew her way around a kitchen.
They all grew up cooking in the Logan kitchen so it seems odd that they have made them out to not know the way around a kitchen.
Bill showed up like the Grinch with the Roast Beast. 😂
I miss Stephanie so much 😞
Ridge shut up!!!!! Your daughter literally tricked and trapped him down the aisle! Thanks to her other husband! I mean father in law!
She did not hold a gun to liam head
Oneisha Owens she didn’t force Liam to say yes so stop blaming everyone else
@@mileysugrim5667 she didnt have to hold a gun, she was so good at manipulating Liam with his father's help. settlingg for crumbs knowing Liam's heart belong to Hope, Steffy and Bill took advantage that Liam had no backbone.
He foolishly proposed to Steffy the first time 5 minutes after Hope called off their first engagement, he and Steffy weren’t even dating when that happened
The Logans are cooking... Fantastic! Haha
Brooke and Donna can't cook they don't know what they are doing it's very very funny what they are doing to that turkey poor turkey.... Mom taught me how to cook etc turkey etc I was very young....
That poor 🦃. They violated it. 😂
They can cook. They grew up cooking so this lack of kitchen skills is stupid. There dad ditched them as kids. There mom worked all the time to raise four kids. So they always cooked. They couldn't afford eating out every day.
@@horsespegasuses6609 the logans know how to cook. So this narrative they are doi g is stupid
It's so sad to think this was Stephanie's last Christmas
I was thinking the same thing 😢
It was Ronn Moss' s last Christmas too
I was thinking the same thing
It seems very weird that Brooke and Donna can't cook. They weren't always rich and dependant on servants/caterers.
Another re-write by Bradley Bell, their mother was a caterer, who worked with them for goodness sake🙄
This. I always thought this was so dumb. Donna and Katie and brooke all cooked when they lived with there mom and storm. There mom worked all the time. Theybhad to step up and cook. So this ineptitude in the kitchen is dumb
Yeah, because you have always been so accepting of Brooke, Taylor!
Why should Taylor accept someone who has pursued her husband numerous times?
Why would Taylor accept someone who has pursued her husband(Ridge) so many times with no remorse???
Surely, Ridge, you know something is wrong with Steffy's marriage, if you have to remind Liam that he is married to her. No matter, how many Scandals, Brooke has had, nobody ever has to remind you, that she is your wife. Ridge, you are the one, who is always screaming to everyone that Brooke is your wife, even here, when you are not technically married. Because you are wholeheartedly committed to her and in love with her, unlike Liam to Steffy.
i agree 100 %
@@darnellanders8768 Ever heard how often Ridge would say: 'Mother leave my wife alone, Thomas, you can't be like that with my wife, Steffy, Brooke is my wife, Hello Dazzy, I am Brooke's husband. When the media called him about Brooke and Oliver' Scandal, Ridge was like: 'I fully support my wife'. Ridge never let's us forget, Brooke is his wife but he has to remind Liam.
@@eunicemafaesa9632 oh yeah.. Even still though I liked that Ridge better. He like Taylor would never hold Steffy accountable which is probably why she never learned. She like Liam would never enforce there words.. I was touched that Ridge made that statement to Hope at her and Liam's wedding in France on the beach before the whole townspeople that he looked at Hope as his own daughter and it was never a question of taking sides ..when that's actually what he did. They all knew it was Steffy who insinuated herself in between Liam and Hope with manipulation and lies...I hated that she would demean herself for Liam as if he was the cleaners only guy around .Liam told her on numerous occasions that he loved Hope and wanted to spend his life with her...she just wasn't hearing it ..then of course Liam got hooked on Steffy s cha cha chas ..he just blows with the wind.. If he couldn't have Hope he would just as well settle for Steffy without even waiting till the dust settle.. Instead of fighting for Hope he took advantage of Steffy who offered it up..not wanting to be alone... He had no faith in Hope... I still believe Hope can do better.
@@eunicemafaesa9632 oh yeah Steffy was more like Brooke than Hope.. Steffy tried with Oliver Hopes first boyfriend who declined. Oliver made a huge mistake with Brooke unknowingly ..he should known that Hope wouldn't want her first time on a dance floor. That's worst than the janitors closet. Hope couldn't get past that so she gravitated to Liam the wuss..now Ridge of course could expect that from Brooke who got down with him in the elevator I believe ..those episodes were the hottest ..just didn't like the tit for tat and flipping the script. Now they R stuck on game changers and twisted love triangles...
@@eunicemafaesa9632 BTW I was even more touched when dollar Bill made his statement to Hope that he was sorry and that he would except her as his daughter without question and that Liam did good... Later on though that marriage was null in void .Hope saw that disgusting video of Steffy sprawled out on the bed with Liam over top of her...
What happened why did this actor leave hes so good looking the new thomas is hideous and creepy
Yes!!! Yes!!! He is... But I'm kinda of glad they changed the Thomas, because I would have been disappointed if the gorgeous Thomas was playing this insane person. This Thomas could play Clark Kent.
@@toridavis8335 why Hope get Jelaous of Zoe and Thomas ? why she will put her nose in their relationship why always things around her ?.
Those who want this Thomas we must write in a petition to bring him back
Tell me abt it! I liked the Pierson Fodé Thomas most. Adam Gregory was okay. Matthew Atkinson, I'm not a big fan of. But I absolutely hate Drew Tyler bell.
Totally agree! I don't like him either he plays creepy real well but this one was so handsome and perfect huge loss
This Kope and This Thomas looks like Ken and Barbie they are pretty like from commercial
I don’t understand why Katie is the only one who knows how to cook, Lol
Katie wasn't helping much
@@staceypaquette5483 No she got there to late and they didn’t even faw the bird out,thank god for Bill, I know I wouldn’t want them to cook for me, Lol
3:50 When has Taylor ever encourage Steffy to accept Brooke and Hope as part of her family?
Steffy shouldn't have to accept them as part of her family. Why is Hope so hellbent on getting Steffy to like her? Steffy has made abundantly clear multiple times that she does not like Hope. She does not like her. She does not consider Hope to be her sister. She does not consider her to be family. She does not believe that Hope should be working at Forrester Creations. Steffy is not interested in having any kind of a friendship with Hope. Brooke should be teaching her daughter to leave Steffy alone. Not everyone in life is gonna like you, no matter how nice and kind and sweet you are to them. Leave it alone. If Steffy doesn't like you its not the end of the world. I have never seen someone so persistent in getting another person to like them. That's dedication right here.
@@RealTalk1411 So, why should Katie accept Steffy as part of hers?
@@RealTalk1411 Steffy may not have to like Hope, but she damn well should respect her! Brooke has every right to expect Steffy to stop messing with her daughter. If anything, Steffy should leave her alone, not the other way around.
@@clairelally3644 So Steffy should respect Hope because she's Brooke's daughter
@@RealTalk1411 Again, why should Katie respect Steffy merely because she is Liam's wife?
that was big of hope. if I would her I couldn`t even talk to steffy
poor Steffy was so desperate back then, and she didnt need to be, it sure didnt do anything for her beauty kissing up to Liam knowing she had ordered Bill to trap Hope on the gondala.
And even liam with Steffy and Hope still guilt tripping him
Taylor is just so blasted off,yea Ridge and how many times u were married to both Taylor and Brooke bt when ur with one u tinking of d other one how noble of u
LMAO all starving but the turkey kinda ain't eatable anymore 🫢
the bird lol logan bring out the bird hahahah but it flew away to a better place lol bill was right with those 2 in the kitchen he is better off home
Lol got damn Ridge. Liam was talking to his dad and you just assumed he was talking to Hope. Leave the guy alone
Now I like Taylor's hair, Steffy looks nice and I love Katie's dress and earrings.
They didn't know what they were doing with the turkey their mom should of taught them how to clean etc the turkey mom taught me very good....
Yes, it was very unrealistic.
Ridge, it's your own fault why you weren't there for your own kids. Not Hope.
Quit meddling ridge. You are a little overbearing.
He did not want her with bill again he killed hope dreams for her. This is how he lost hope
The logans pretending not to know how to cook is ridiculous
How does Taylor not see her daughter is a mini Brooke lmaooooo???
This is why Thope should come
Bell should have stuck with Hope and Wyatt. He's the one she's had the most chemistry with.
instead of calling him Ebenezer scrooge they should call him Ebenezer Spencer
Nobody made liam say i do and he the one who put ring on steffy finger and asked her marry him. And secondly he could left her after finding out the truth he chose to stay with his wife.
Lmao Donna and Brooke mother was a caterer and neither one of them knows how to cook 😂. Guess it makes since. Donna is the dumb one and Brooke was the popular one and Katie was the nerdy one who paid attention to what mom was doing
i cant recall if this is after Steffy maried Liam on the mountain top as Hope was stuck in the gondala or the time after she trapped him into marriage because she was pregnant?? i do know months later Liam annulled the marriage when he found out.
Hi🤗 it's after she married Liam on the mountain top!
Liam didn't have it annulled.Steffy asked for a divorce, because she told Liam if it was annulled then it would mean their marriage didn't mean anything. Hope and Liam had to wait 6 months to marry.
@staceypaquette5483 Well Steffy eventually did sign the annulment papers but Liam tore them up and threw them in the river in Aspen. He never told Hope that. So it was Liam fault they had to wait
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Yeah I remember that as well. He was great at blowing with the wind early on with his indecisiveness. I will never see him in the same light. He has no fight in him nor a romantic bone in his body. Stuffy ho only wanted him to one up Brooke something she felt her mom couldn't do. She felt it was safe to cheat on Liam with his dad because Hope wasn't around. all that after Liam chose her over Ivy..
@darnellanders8768 Ehhh I wouldn't say that. There has been plenty of episodes where Liam has been romantic with Hope and Steffy. Liam's decision has always been his indecisiveness. He never just owns and be honest with how he feels. Instead he just keeps things inside and just go with the wind as you say. And Steffy did want and love Liam. Believe me if it was just about beating The Logans then she would have got bored with that quickly. She went through too much for Liam for it all to be part of some silly family grudge. Nah she loved the guy, but like Hope figured out this year, Steffy realized that as much as she loves Liam and he loves her, Liam will always love Hope as well and Steffy wanted a man who only wanted her
Hope and Thomas take an picture with Santa Clause! That’s how much of a picture with Santa was when I was 13 years old in 2014! Now I have even more reason to dislike these two! You two adult taking pictures with Santa Clause! It’s also very uncomfortable to see Thomas around children knowing when he goes on to do!
Turkey dinner might take time, but it's simple
What's with Ridge continuously reminding Liam that he's married to Steffy. He's become very annoying!!
omgash I hate ridge coming on to Liam every chance he gets so if he was talking to hope so what the way he's insecure about staffy,s marriage to Liam is disrespecting Liam like he doesn't anything about hounoring commitment whenever they get problems with brooke he runs to tylar so annoying
Where's Bridget?
Probably working at the hospital or playing house with Owen🙄🤬.
Never realized just how much of a bully Ridge can be
Lmao right. Basically acting like a mob boss subtly threatening Liam not to leave Steffy
Why do they have to show these women as incompetent in the kitchen??
Ja Ridge have too always remember Liam that he is marry to Steffie🤮
Who is Liam's mother;
I think she's dead.
His mother's name was Kelly. We never saw her on screen.
She was a Supermodel named Kelly Hopkins. She and Bill were college sweethearts and they conceived Liam but she never told Bill she was pregnant with his baby..She died of Breast cancer and after she died, Liam came to LA to find his dad. The rest was history