@@wbfaulk Yes because if you watched the video, they mention that if the power goes out, you're also stuck without water. Which would not be the case in a modern house which water flows from the communal water source, not a well on your property. It's probably better to run it off it's own generator anyway, since if there is ever an electrical issue, it's with the generator not the power grid itself.
@@markowalski1 There are a variety of things in the house that won't work if the power goes out. Anything electrical, probably. If they showed us how to install a ceiling fan, would ⅔ of the video also be about a whole house generator?
As a well water user, not wild about that setup at all. There seems to be a pretty high failure rate for those constant velocity pumps. But even if that thing is bulletproof, I always thought the CV pumps were a solution in search of a problem. I have a conventional Franklin pump in a deep well, and it comes in to a 20-gal pressure tank (a much larger version of the Wel-X-Trol shown in the video). My pressure in the house no matter what I do is always between 55 and 65. You can't tell if the pump is running or not. That's the pressure tank's job. The bladder lasts a long time and it's a heck of a lot simpler than a CV pump with that fancy controller. Also, no filtration at all? That's nuts. You're going to get sediment out of any well, no matter how clean it is, If you don't at least put a sediment filter on it before heading to the fixtures, you'll eventually clog up every aerator and valve in the house. For the expense, why wouldn't you put on a sediment filter? It adds like maybe $200 to project cost. Homeowner changes maybe quarterly for $10 a year, tops.
My house is almost 40 years old, has always used a well, has never had any filtration other than the ground itself, and has NEVER clogged up ANY aerator or valves in or outside of house. So you are full of crap.
Does the pipe penetrate the well casing 4-6' below the top of the casing? You can usually see the well casing above ground but the pipe to the house is buried below the frost line so I'm assuming that the pipe from the pump penetrates the well casing at the same depth it enters the house? Also if this is the case then there is a gap between the top of the pipe and top of the well casing, so how do you remove the pump if it goes bad?
“Heath how you doing tying everything in?” “Just about all set” “Alright, let’s go fire it up” ….this man JUST told you it’s not done yet, he’s still finishing up.
I think they cut clips from full episodes (wait, yeah that's obvious!) But it is WAY too short. I love this old house, even when they do a sink or toilet install, but these ultra quick videos are more of an overview, maybe they do it to get us to subscribe to the app, but in a few years the producers will probably throw these on tick tock cut uo even more and show a "remodel" in 60 seconds!
It needs a deep well submersible pump at the bottom, which is 500' down. Not something you want to pull out by hand. If you have a drilled well, yes it can be used, as far as I know.
A generator is not a solution long term once you run out of gas. I just installed a manual hand pump on my well. I can get endless water with no power.
Can you help me out with a problem I just put a new motor and tank and hard pipe in my well and when it cuts off it just sits there jumping even when I unplug the motor I can lift up on the pipe and it
Richard, at about 1:40 you said the water supply line to the house needs to be about 4' below the frost line. Did you mean 4' below ground level? Not sure where this project is, but if it's in New England like many TOH episodes, wouldn't 4' below ground be safe? Here in Ohio our frost free depth is 36".
At least those ones are flat. My previous home had all of the pex pipes in a big bundle. Hot water took forever to get to the fixtures and the cold was warmer than usual.
@@marcelgaddis9319 ... on that brand of liquid cooled set I think you will find the retail for the outside unit is closer to $12k plus installation and misc. IOW, around $15k or so. I might be off by a little as I retired from that business 2 years ago.
James ... last I looked about 50% of dealers offer some kind of financing terms. Worst case is you use a credit card and spread it out over 2 years. Might be a good time to start a new account with 0% for new customers.
Does the water line need to be 4 feet below the frost line? . . . Or did he mean the water line needs to be below the frost line, in this case, 4 feet below the ground surface?
@@vannorman1116 Good question. I have a 15 kilowatt system and it has been cloudy almost every day in June where I live. It has averaged a production of 40 kilowatts a day. Your system still produces even if it’s cloudy, just not as much of it was sunny. On full sun days my system produces between 80 to 90 kilowatts.
Technically you could with the right setup. Will you be able to run everything in your house no not even close. Although with the right equipment you could but buy the time you did that it would be cheaper to just by a generator
~sigh~ so.. nothing inside the well house gets shown.. I could swear there's some sort of plumbing going on in there. That would have been a whole lot more informative in a video about getting water from point A to point B without half the video about the generator. Types of fittings.. pipe.. which can have clamps.. which need glue.. which need teflon tape.. the stuff that actually involves the plumbing inside the well house. Where is that video?
That generator started like someone was leaning into the key on a 20 year old car with 200,000 miles lol...I thought it would be a smoother start up to be honest
the fuel probably wasn't primed being that was the first time since the factory it was started up. Properly maintained (and primed) they start up pretty quickly
WTF? This video was supposed to be about water well systems. Most of it was about an emergency generator system that most of us could never afford. What happened to This Old House? Most of the videos are superficial; they don't go into enough detail to be useful to do it yourselfers or homesteaders. Reminds me of corporate-speak, which I think has taken over This Old House. There are dozens and dozens of RUclipsrs making videos about plumbing, mechanical, electrical etc. systems that put these to shame. Goodbye This Old House.
@@marcelgaddis9319 ... .as soon as you go to a liquid cooled set the base price will be $10 - $12k, just for the unit. If you go with an air cooled set you can probably do the whole install for under $10k.
Scott and Heath in the same episode together....the multiverse is converging. Unity will be achieved shortly.
I was wondering if I was the only one to notice! Haha
that really surprised me too!
See ya later Scott.
I like how Richard, Scott and Heath are all in this video. This is like TEAM WORK.
At least they let Richard have his own time slot, otherwise he would have been interrupting both those other guys all the time lol
This old house guys has been my favorites since I was a young kiddo.
They explain everything so well and easy to understand.. the best team hands down
Never seen Scott and Heath together at the same time
I may have to agree with you
Exactly, I was starting to think one was just the other in a costume.
I agree ☝️
If Scott only knew heath was stealing his spot.
@@juliof970 Scott wasn't the right fit for the show. Now for the painter and landscaper next.
Just to make sure I understand properly, over 50% of how to get water out of a well is installing a whole house generator?
Yes unless you want to hand pump cold water from the well.
@@markowalski1 There's no facility to use power provided by some external service? Some sort of, I dunno, "power company"?
@@wbfaulk Yes because if you watched the video, they mention that if the power goes out, you're also stuck without water. Which would not be the case in a modern house which water flows from the communal water source, not a well on your property.
It's probably better to run it off it's own generator anyway, since if there is ever an electrical issue, it's with the generator not the power grid itself.
@@markowalski1 There are a variety of things in the house that won't work if the power goes out. Anything electrical, probably. If they showed us how to install a ceiling fan, would ⅔ of the video also be about a whole house generator?
It's much cheaper with solar panels and a battery
Scott explains things very well. Glad to see both of them in the same episode
Scott was the gopher grunt in this episode. Go pull some wire kid!
Please do a segment on testing your well water. Thanks!!
As a well water user, not wild about that setup at all. There seems to be a pretty high failure rate for those constant velocity pumps. But even if that thing is bulletproof, I always thought the CV pumps were a solution in search of a problem. I have a conventional Franklin pump in a deep well, and it comes in to a 20-gal pressure tank (a much larger version of the Wel-X-Trol shown in the video). My pressure in the house no matter what I do is always between 55 and 65. You can't tell if the pump is running or not. That's the pressure tank's job. The bladder lasts a long time and it's a heck of a lot simpler than a CV pump with that fancy controller. Also, no filtration at all? That's nuts. You're going to get sediment out of any well, no matter how clean it is, If you don't at least put a sediment filter on it before heading to the fixtures, you'll eventually clog up every aerator and valve in the house. For the expense, why wouldn't you put on a sediment filter? It adds like maybe $200 to project cost. Homeowner changes maybe quarterly for $10 a year, tops.
My house is almost 40 years old, has always used a well, has never had any filtration other than the ground itself, and has NEVER clogged up ANY aerator or valves in or outside of house. So you are full of crap.
@@rickyrick9328 Lucky you! I wish you were a better human being. Or maybe all your fixtures are full of crap, too. :)
This is how they scouted Heath.
Exactly what I was thinking, question is.. did Scott know this was Heath's interview?
@@MandoFettOG Scott wasn't the right fit for the show.
House be like, "Power's out, Lemmie start up my car- er I mean, my backup generator."
Nevermind the dead 12v battery you forgot you needed to maintain and regularly test... oof!
Looks like no water or power for a few days....
Scott is back! Good.
Does the pipe penetrate the well casing 4-6' below the top of the casing? You can usually see the well casing above ground but the pipe to the house is buried below the frost line so I'm assuming that the pipe from the pump penetrates the well casing at the same depth it enters the house? Also if this is the case then there is a gap between the top of the pipe and top of the well casing, so how do you remove the pump if it goes bad?
“Heath how you doing tying everything in?”
“Just about all set”
“Alright, let’s go fire it up”
….this man JUST told you it’s not done yet, he’s still finishing up.
Everything always looks simple to those who have never done it.
“To know and not to do is not yet to know.”
That is a BEAST of a standby generator
I noticed he didn't put any noox on the connections though
I enjoy these but make them just a bit longer, seems they all cut off short
I think they cut clips from full episodes (wait, yeah that's obvious!) But it is WAY too short. I love this old house, even when they do a sink or toilet install, but these ultra quick videos are more of an overview, maybe they do it to get us to subscribe to the app, but in a few years the producers will probably throw these on tick tock cut uo even more and show a "remodel" in 60 seconds!
Seriously lacking in any useful information, just a commercial for the generator... which has little to do with well water.
This must have been the hand-off episode to Heath. Thank you Scott!
What are your thoughts if the radon (1850 pCi/L) is detected in water sample?
does this well system need a special pump or can it be installed on existing systems?
It needs a deep well submersible pump at the bottom, which is 500' down. Not something you want to pull out by hand. If you have a drilled well, yes it can be used, as far as I know.
I would assume they have a variable speed pump.
@@rosemcommm just buy the generator, did you not watch the 5 minute long commercial?
I really wanna know how they manage to get the feed to switch from generator to grid automatically
Would love this kind of set up with my solar
A generator is not a solution long term once you run out of gas. I just installed a manual hand pump on my well. I can get endless water with no power.
Who is the manufacturer of the well pump controller?
How is that soap-in-water test relevant? I've got a mighty hard water on my property and my soap behaves just like yours :))))
Kinda pulled a fast one on us with the title 😂😂😂
This is more like: how a whole house generator works, and something about a well.
Cool!
Was this a well installation video or a generator video?
Well installation
a well installed generator video.
@@marcelgaddis9319 It is a well expensive generator commercial.
At 400 ft could I go with a 1 hp pump instead?
Rumor has it Scott was found in a dumpster hours later, and Heath gained the title "Master Electrician".
They saw Norm and Tommy driving away from the scene.
Did I just see a 4 cylinder engine powered generator? I love everything about that 😂
Why not a v10? ridiculous overkill and it wasn't running on natural gas but the dreaded Strictland Propane. Dammit Bobby!
"How to get water from a well"
>50% of the video is not even about water.
most of it is about getting it out of a well, I suppose lol
You got duped into watching a commercial for a generator.
TOH strikes again.
1:11 episode from 2009 which they put online?
Leo ... must be several episodes thrown together because that gen set was not offered in 2009. Guessing it's maybe 5-6 years back for the gen part.
Can you help me out with a problem I just put a new motor and tank and hard pipe in my well and when it cuts off it just sits there jumping even when I unplug the motor I can lift up on the pipe and it
Stops sometimes
@@sammyreliford7429 Call a local professional.
I’ve missed Scott.
Why? He wasn't a good fit on the show.
How is the backup generator fed with propane?
Hank Hill makes regular deliveries and accessories sales.
Richard, at about 1:40 you said the water supply line to the house needs to be about 4' below the frost line. Did you mean 4' below ground level? Not sure where this project is, but if it's in New England like many TOH episodes, wouldn't 4' below ground be safe? Here in Ohio our frost free depth is 36".
What was that terrible rattling coming from the generator right as the video cut off?
Just the generator starting, that's all.
Why is the hot and cold PEX run parallel to one another? Hot is just warming up the cold and vice versa. They're not really separated.
At least those ones are flat. My previous home had all of the pex pipes in a big bundle. Hot water took forever to get to the fixtures and the cold was warmer than usual.
Some contractors want things to look good rather than work well.
Is there a water bill in a house like this? I would assume not but never lived on well water
Yes, you pay a monthly bill to Mother Earth Incorporated care of Gretta Thurnburg.
Is that a Honda K series engine?!
That plumbing job looks like absolute slop!!! Fire that plumber!
Do banks have Mortgage loans for generators like that ?
Gonna need one !
the gen is only around 5k, plus the electronics ,wire, delivery/shipping, labor and other little extras should be no more than 9 to 10k total.
@@marcelgaddis9319 ... on that brand of liquid cooled set I think you will find the retail for the outside unit is closer to $12k plus installation and misc. IOW, around $15k or so. I might be off by a little as I retired from that business 2 years ago.
James ... last I looked about 50% of dealers offer some kind of financing terms. Worst case is you use a credit card and spread it out over 2 years. Might be a good time to start a new account with 0% for new customers.
@@rupe53 Might be better not to go into debt for a luxury item. A cheaper generator will get you though the storm.
Shouldn’t the red lines have some insulation wrap?
Cold water needs it on copper
Why are these videos always cut short
We had a whole-house generator quoted for our house in the country and it was $14,000 lol
RIchard!! YOU didn't mention how unreliable your VFD is. Or they're life expectantly.
That well controller is a VFD? They can create dirty electricity.
Is the generator very noisy ?
The more you pay, the quieter they are.
To think Heath replaced Scott and to hear Scott introduce Heath his own replacement was weird .
TOH humiliating Scott on his way out.
Notice how Scott was given the trainee tasks? Pull that wire kid, go outside in the cold!
If I ever win the mega millions....these dudes are being paid to build my house. ....supervised by Norm and Bob.
Who is Bob? I will put Roger in charge of everything, enjoy your treehouse.
I would love to have one of those generators but they are $3k to $5k and another $3k to have it installed!! WOW. Only for the rich.
Does the water line need to be 4 feet below the frost line? . . . Or did he mean the water line needs to be below the frost line, in this case, 4 feet below the ground surface?
His sentence definitely had a misplaced modifier. I also did a double take but I'm pretty confident the answer to your question is the latter.
Below the frost line, in this case 4' below the surface.
Prefer solar and battery. More responsive and you don’t have to listen to a generator running( very noisy).
And what if it's cloudy for 10 days ???
@@vannorman1116 Good question. I have a 15 kilowatt system and it has been cloudy almost every day in June where I live. It has averaged a production of 40 kilowatts a day. Your system still produces even if it’s cloudy, just not as much of it was sunny. On full sun days my system produces between 80 to 90 kilowatts.
@@vannorman1116 What if you have no gas?
How to get rid of sulfur smelling water?
Turn off the tap?
Call an exorcist.
What if you could just hook your truck to your house and use that.
Technically you could with the right setup. Will you be able to run everything in your house no not even close. Although with the right equipment you could but buy the time you did that it would be cheaper to just by a generator
@@hotrodpaully1 it would be cool if you could put wheels on the generator and drive it around.
@@dereklull8212 You can, it is called a generator trailer.
You don’t need the water line 4’ below the frost line but 4’ below grade which is the frost line
I wish it was cold in texas right now lol
@R YAY calm down karen
You guys didn't handle the last freeze very well.
Dig a hole, put a pump in the bottom of the well. There, 7 minutes saved. Seemed most of this episode was how to hook up a home generator
Is the pex supposed to be dangling there? When I do it I make it neat and sexy
This is why you don't pollute your ground water sources and why you don't pave over everything.
So have some freaking water left over.
You wouldn't want to drink well water under a city.
My city has 15 wells, only 1 is "safe" to drink. Thanks Lockheed!
From 2009 😔 on the test report
PFAS 'forever chemicals' not tested for...
That is because the govt doesn't want you to know what poisons you are drinking and bathing in.
I feel like some parts of this video where half baked
Some?
I just lost 5 minutes I will never get back. TOH useless information/infomercial.
Scott and Heath in the same episode? Wtf?
I'm guessing this was Heath's interview for Scott's job.
Should of done the soap test with both .
both would have had suds, we can wash dishes in hard water, it just takes a little more soap to get massive foam.
~sigh~ so.. nothing inside the well house gets shown.. I could swear there's some sort of plumbing going on in there. That would have been a whole lot more informative in a video about getting water from point A to point B without half the video about the generator. Types of fittings.. pipe.. which can have clamps.. which need glue.. which need teflon tape.. the stuff that actually involves the plumbing inside the well house. Where is that video?
Why do people use those tiny bladder tanks now instead of the traditional much larger ones?
They explain it in the video
Uhhh submersible pump lol
Can’t propane lies freeze?
Only if it gets down to about -300°F.
Yuk pex plumbing
Whoever did those water lines should not be plumbing 😂
I think it may have just been temporary for pressure testing
Our master electrician has a solution to still have electricity if you lose power. It's a generator. Duhhhhhh
That generator started like someone was leaning into the key on a 20 year old car with 200,000 miles lol...I thought it would be a smoother start up to be honest
the fuel probably wasn't primed being that was the first time since the factory it was started up. Properly maintained (and primed) they start up pretty quickly
WTF? This video was supposed to be about water well systems. Most of it was about an emergency generator system that most of us could never afford. What happened to This Old House? Most of the videos are superficial; they don't go into enough detail to be useful to do it yourselfers or homesteaders. Reminds me of corporate-speak, which I think has taken over This Old House. There are dozens and dozens of RUclipsrs making videos about plumbing, mechanical, electrical etc. systems that put these to shame. Goodbye This Old House.
hell of a pex job
When we were searching for a home. I told the realtor 1. Deal killer is a well. Don't waste my/ your time .it's going to be a no for me.
No filter huh bet you would have one if it was ur house lmfao
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Roughly, how much would a generator set up like this cost?
Between 7 to 10 thousands dollars. Depending on the size.
the gen is only around 5k, plus the electronics ,wire, delivery/shipping, labor and other little extras should be no more than 9 to 10k total.
@@marcelgaddis9319 ... .as soon as you go to a liquid cooled set the base price will be $10 - $12k, just for the unit. If you go with an air cooled set you can probably do the whole install for under $10k.
It costs about tree fiddy.
@@rickyrick9328
That was funny as hell. 🤣🤣🤣