Scoring struggles plagued the Leafs as they lose their 7th straight winner-takes-all game
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
- The Maple Leafs came back from down 3-1 in their series against the Bruins to force Game 7, but ultimately lost in overtime of Game 7 to see their season come to an end. TSN's Leafs Panel breaks down the heartbreaking loss, how much adversity Toronto faced in the series, and what change could be ahead for the Leafs in the future.
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They played 7 games... only scored 12 goals... and went 1-for-21 on the power play. You're never gonna win a series with that 🤷♂
they are just a regular season team
Holy mackinaw
I wonder when they're going to realize that passing Matthews the puck for a one timer in the playoffs doesn't work?
@@angiebee532 Really? That's your takeaway? When they won two games without Matthews?
I'm not here for the "well they battled back/they fought thru" crap. Their lackluster effort is why it was 3-1 Bs. This core has run its course.
DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ho,y mackinaw
Yup. Keefe can be all “Well, I’m proud of how they played etc.” but if he still has a job after Monday *and* that Playoff Disappointment Core remains by October, fans will keep seeing these moments play out for awhile longer.
Most overpaid and overrated core
Keefe got the guys to battle back from 3-1 and get the series all the way to OT of game 7. He’s earned another- 😂😂😂😂
Sorry I can’t even troll anymore, it’s beyond sad at this point 😅
As an outsider, this looks more like Nylander’s team than Mathew’s. He actually steps up and scores big goals.
i feel like it's been his team for years i agree he's like the true heart
Mitch Marner was the scapegoat with just one goal. Morgan Rielly didn’t come close to having a stupendous series that he had against the Lightning last season.
Their combined total cap hit = $10.9 M + $7.5 M = $18.3 M could buy you two top pier defensemen, extend Max Domi long term and acquire a solid goalie.
Boston's big time, highly paid star scores when it matters. Tavares? 2 points in 7GP. Marner 3 in 7. Matthews 1 goal. Rinse. Repeat.
Yup most overpaid overrated core
to be fair Nylander did show up.
marchand love him or hate him has three goals and five assists in this series 5 mil a year...with a cap hit 6.125 mil..
Stop blaming goaltending or defense. 12 goals in 7 games and 1-21 on the powerplay? Come on
That’s it right there. Look no further. 1-21 on PP is an failure on an epic scale.
that doesn't get you deep in the playoffs..as a bruins fan i'm mostly happy with our success over the past twenty years..not epic or dynasty worthy..but pretty good overall.
Great players elevate their game when the coach “calls them out.” They don’t throw their gloves.
Marner needs to go.
As a non-Leaf Fan...here's the bottom line: IF you try and run this same crap back? Expect the same results. THUS...there HAS TO BE A CHANGE. No more "tomorrows". It STARTS with the coach...but it ENDS with the players. There NEEDS to be a significant roster shake-up. And that's not the 3rd or 4th line.
Management was so bad under Shanahan and Dubas they all have no move clauses. No real change can happen for another year. Just need to hope Shanahan is gone before that.
@@shanemccarthy3170Why do people say this? A NMC is not set in stone. Marner and / or Tavares can still agree to a trade or provide Treliving with a list of places they’d go. Meaningful change can happen despite their NMC’s.
@@pajamatime5750 It won't happen. Both have families in Toronto and grew up there. They can just play out next year and choose where they want to go themselves after. less than a 1% chance they aren't on the team next year
It's going to be more than a coaching change Dreger. Shanahan is a good as gone. It's been 10 years.
I hope you're right
FKN Right!!! This guys an INSIDER?? A NUTLESS one. Shanny's plan sucked and it's over last year when Dubas basically bailed for PITT. It was a SHET PLAN to begin with!! Shanny and the coaching staff are gone.
There are dozens of names on the Stanley Cup that most people have never heard of. Some GMs know why. Leafs need to find out what type of players these are and make an adjustment
Shanahan should have left with Dubas. Ownership isn't worried about winning they care about being relevant and making money. They will come out with the same we are close message and run is all back and we know the result
That's exactly the point though - it's been 10 years and he HASN'T gotten fired yet. Why would he get fired now?
5 players have a combined 400 season points. 1 goal in game 7. Can’t blame goalie ever with that kind of pathetic display from the big 5
That hog wash. The Bruins Centers are not Hall of Famers by any means, but to say the Bruins have 3 3rd line centers is not true. Tell me one team in the entire league that has 3 or 4 centers on their roster that are legitimate 1-2 line centers. none. The league is competitive and talent is spread out and watered down.
100% if we are being fair everyone would call bergy and krejci legit top 2 centers but the Bruins top 2 centers this year had more points then those 2 last year so like I don't know why people are discrediting them so much
Bro Zacha is their number 1. Zacha. Lol
Probably only Vegas.
@@HopefulNihilist Edmonton. RNH is a good second line centre, drai and mcdavid are number one centres. There’s also Vancouver
Sid and Geno
cant say im suprised...
it's the same old story that we've heard for the past few years; first round exit and losing againest the Bruins😮💨
A 65 year tradition of the Leafs getting mulched in Boston.
what tradition?
Boston has nothing to do with it. Leafs lose to everyone don't feel special
@@DANNY40379pay attention
Weakest Bruins team in 10 years that will get munched by the Panthers but this star studded Leaf team STILL couldn’t get it done. Samsonov was not the issue. Look at that winning goal and Marner didn’t even try to catch Pasta as he passed him into the Leaf zone and the defence was fully asleep.
I’m gonna laugh my ass off if we beat Florida
That goal was a set play by the Bruins, Sammy was too far back he should have poked the puck away
@@DANNY40379 I keep seeing people blame Sammy and if Woll had played it would be different. Well, if you’re going to believe that then I will add, if the Bruins hadn’t been silly in game 2 and stayed with Swayman the Leafs would have been swept in 4. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
@DANNY40379 seen a different angle. He had no chance to come out and make a play against Pasta's speed on the dump.
Sammy WAS a MAJOR issue, but I agree Panthers will lose first game due to rust... then dust the Bruins in 5... that is unless Sway becomes the Bob of last year and they goto the Cup finals!?!!!
Changes should have been made to Leafs management and CORE when they blew their 3-1 playoff series lead against the lowly Habs 3 years ago. Little has changed since.
Never thought for a single second this team could beat Boston. Insane to expect a different result.
58 years and counting. Absolutely loving it 😍
What's there to love?
@Smartphone-im7bw well lots. Toronto make believes suck!!!!
@@Smartphone-im7bwleafs losing again lmao
As a leafs fan I’m done with this team and management
You're full of shit. You and I (as another leafs fan) BOTH know we're going to begin watching them again three weeks into next season.
A great comment from 2018
Tavares also sucks as a leader what are they talking about holy. These panels are weak compared to American
Ya Frankie Corrado is a joke
I agree,.. they all look like upset whiny brats except for Dragger. Toronto is a regular season offensive team with zero credibility even sniffing the playoffs
Finally some fans aren't blindy loyal to JT. I said it before he's overpaid and overrated. He's a no show in the playoffs. He's going to get worse. Old and slow....
If Dreger is right and Shanahan is not fired then nothing changes what so ever. This is his team. He has pulled the strings behind the scene. It is time for a tear down of management.
i agree, if Shanny isn't gone.. expect this insanity to continue one more year...hooray!
Last four game 7's the Leafs have scored a total of three goals.
Leafs score first, then all of a sudden their defensive play strategy goes down the drain.
They scored 12 goals in 7 games. Defence was not the issue. Paying Mitch Marner and Tavares 22M to be invisible is the problem. Unfortunately they both have no move clauses so nothing can really change for another year. Need to fire Shanahan and get a new vision for roster building
The fact that if they were even 25% on the PowerPlay, they easily would’ve won the series.. that’s an extra what four or five goals?
Not really a realistic expectation vs a #7 league PK.
@@JohnSmith-jb2jf Tell that to the Oilers 45% powerplay against the team that was number 2 at the pk during the regular season.
To a claim made by Jeff O'Neill (from the 6:38 mark) about Tavares, there IS a precedent for stripping an NHL team captainship: that of winger Blake Wheeler, from whom in mid-September 2022 then-Winnipeg Jets' head coach Rick Bowness (still for now the Manitoba team's HC) stripped the captaincy. It IS about results, and late-summer 2022 had been near the end of an offseason that'd started with the Jets' having not qualified for postseason play.
JT needs to have the captaincy stripped. The league's most boring captain on the team which needs a strong leader the most. Leafs need more then just 'leading by example' on the ice. They need passion, screaming at the underperforming players in the intermission, dragging them back on the ice when they aren't putting in enough of a shift.
JT is NOT the man to lead this team (his playoff record has been poor going right back to his time with the Islanders).
@@02smithm1 JT no doubt needs the Blake Wheeler treatment although TBD will be whether Sheldon Keefe, or whomever succeeds Keefe as Leafs' head coach, will find his inner Rick Bowness on pulling-the-Wheeler on JT.
Jt the rag doll captain
Guys got 1 year left. What's the point?
@@DaBenzo923 A culture change is necessary, and stripping JT of the captaincy would send a message to him and the team that things are going to change whether or not he wants things to change.
As soon as I saw that goal I wondered where the hell was there any urgency from the Leafs to get to the puck that was shot in the Leafs end. Reilly was nowhere near the puck after it bounced off the boards. Only Pastrnak saw the play & responded. Poor effort & game over for the Leafs. They were outhustled in the end.
It was a set play the Bruins practiced over and over, Sammy should have been further out and poked the puck away
Set play or not Sammy, Reilly and Marner all performed poorly during that play. If one of them 3 played that with heart it wouldn’t have resulted in a goal.
Lol the core won't change. We'll be having this conversation the same time next year. Boston always has more heart.
Amazing how a team that is built so top heavy has scored 2 goals or fewer in 13 of their last 14 playoff games. And the one game where they did score more than 2, was when they scored 3 in Game 2 of this series.
That is not good enough. For what the Core is being paid, they are supposed to elevate their game in the playoffs. And once again, they pulled a disappearing act.
Nylander almost single handedly won this series, keep that in mind.
I have to agree, suddenly lots of open ice in overtime. Leafs were doing a great job the rest of the game tying up the Bruins. WTF happened?
Not one guy stuck with Pasta and Sammy hid in his net,,,,,GAME OVER
@@stangsswang8355
Samsonov comes out the crease and misplays that puck, he’s excoriated for it forever.
The problem was Pasta gives it to Lindholm who slings into a deep corner purposely (icing the puck) and Pasta turned it on while the Leafs basically switched off.
Lyubushkin was on the Left Side of that play and HE was as close or closer to Pasta when he scored than any Leaf on the Right or Down The Middle. He showed a bit of urgency while his mates hit the snooze alarm puck-watching.
set play... a good one, that caught everyone off guard!
Samsonov not poking that puck is rediculous
Yea it's Sammy he will screw things up for them. Can't believe they didn't get rid of him early in the season and still find a way to give him so many chances. That will haunting them this offseason...
As a Canadian one thing I noticed about our own sport pannels/ commentators/ analysts is that they breathe life into the opposing team. Our home teams will be winning, and our own commentators will end up talking about what the opposing team needs to do to stay in the game. You can't be a homestead commentator and doubt them at the same time
Nearly statistically impossible to lose 7 of game seven games....
Finally now that the Leafs are done, I can go back to watching playoff hockey without my phone blowing up all the time with TSN and SN spamming Leaf notifications!
1.71 goals per game in the playoffs
Matthews likely would make an elite playoff winger. Matthews is a nobody in the playoffs at Centre ice.
the old Toews/Kane thing? maybe... hmm
3 3rd line centers gets stuff done pal
Except on the Leafs
When Keefe's postgame involved him talking about the 'Leafs' in third person, seems clear he already knows he's gone
Dad's a die hard leafs fan. So, I've followed them closely for years and watched too many games to count. My personal opinion is that the leafs have always had the same type of team structure. For as long as I can remember, they've always been front heavy with finesse forwards. Guys that can put the puck in the back of the net but are scared of their own shadow. Come playoff time, you need guys with grit who aren't scared of playing physical. Trade away one of the finesse guys and get some help on the back end.
Marner will never amount to anything in the post season unless he gets in the dirt, he has the hands to get it done...we're still waiting for that to happen.
Toronto loses in the playoffs...what a surprise. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. 😅
No more excuses, the leafs need to change, or else the fans will burn the arena, riots will ensue , and chaos will reign down in Toronto . Thanks a lot Sheldon Keefe u bastard!!!!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Nothing will change
I agree 👍
There will be absolutely none of this.
🤡🤡🤡
This isn’t the most painful (at least not for me). Nothing will top blowing it against the Habs. That is when this team should have been blown up…..this team wasn’t going anywhere with Samsonov in net, and that’s not to blame the goalie it’s just if you’re going to build your team like this you better have a top 5 goalie back there.
Woll showed glimpses but can’t seem to stay healthy. We all know the entire pay structure of this team is out of wack, but I’m afraid we may be stuck in cap purgatory for another year before we find relief.
MLSE does not know how to build a Stanley Cup winner. They know they will still profit even if the Leafs have a losing season. Stanley Cup is just extra icing for them. What year was it the last time the Leafs won a cup? I rest my case.
Need goaltending and score goals when being defensively sound. Who gets moved?
Marner,,,Jarnkrok,,,Kampf,,,Reilly,,,Liljigren
I needed this video to help me cathart.
Lrt Marner go, did nothing..
A coach's speeches have little to nothing to do with winning. The players aren't going to think: "oh crap, we have to try harder because the game is really important; why didn't I think of that?!" You need a good system based on the talent you have. Marner and Matthews don't have the compete level in them to pay a physical price like Bergeron. Domi has the drive but not the talent or the smarts, again, like Bergeron. Their system is built around their elite scorers yet they had more success with below average scoring games without the best scorer in the league and the stars were a backup goalie, and just one of their core, Nylander. They thought Tavares was going to put them over the top when actually it likely led to years of failure. They already had prime scoring. They needed a stud defense that they could have got moving up in the draft or overpaying a declining team with what they resourced to JT. Instead, they overpaid JT and Marner by a lot.
4 overpaid forwards with no trade deals. What could go wrong. They only show up sporadically in the playoffs, well 3 of them, Marner doesn't show up at all and should have been traded last year if he wasn't given such an asinine contract. Who would you rather have on your team Marner or Zack Hyman? 8 years wasted with this bunch and I would be surprised if even one of them cares. Too much money for too little effort and too little return. Why should they play hard?
If Tampa Bay had Swayman in net during the playoffs last season instead of Vasilevsky, the Leafs would have lost in round #1.
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@@planetcaravan2925 Smart bot.
why did they not load up the top line when needed? I only saw Matthews Marner and Nylander together once.
It starts in the regular season. The focus has to stop being on Matthews personal achievements. The team has talent. Other players can play. But they have no clue how to play together as a team because they are conditioned to play strictly for Matthews to get a goal. If that mentality and coaching style continues, you will continue to suppress the rest of the players abilities. They are throwing their own players under the bus every year heading into the playoffs. You never trained them to work as a team in the regular season and didn't give anyone else enough ice time to give them confidence to play. Then, in the playoffs every year, Matthews is one of the most unreliable players and you need the rest of the team to play and they don't know how because Matthew's one timers are not an option in the playoffs. So fix that. The proof that this is 100% a problem is that nylander wasn't there for the first 3 games and we barely made it. As soon as matthews was out the team played. Matthews came back for game 7 and that mentality instantly defaulted back to Matthews has to score. So the rest of the team said screw it. And we lost.
Let’s play this series again…it was that good. Go Bruins!
He put the 4th line out after the Leafs scored and he put Gregor who fuckin sucks and took a wide angle shot and bobbled the puck twice giving it away which caused the tying goal.
I've been telling all over the internet for the last 5 days if matthews plays next game they will lose..!!!!.....I WAS SOOOOO RIGHT ABOUT THIS..!!!!
Matthews wanted more ice time. Lou and Babcock would not change their style to fit any player even if it is their highest scorer. Enter Dubas and Keefe. Keefe had to eat his own words to sooth Matthews et all.
No one wants to talk about the elephant in the room because he scores 69 goals. Remember when Matthews was ragged dolled and the entire Leaf bench looked on with zero interest. Zero response. Anyone how has played hockey, has followed hockey knows why.
In Keefes defense he would had played Woll but he was injured. Leafs goalie could had attempted a polk check on that Pasta game winner but that was a 50-50 gamble also. Lindholms shot pass to the corner boards was definitely a play they had practiced. The defense should had at least tried to stop Pasta even if they took a tripping penalty in that situation.
Taveres is not the issue, There were others that played all four losses that are. Not much of a panel when the men don't let the lady voice her opinion.
I've seen a lot of comparisons of the Leafs to the Sharks recently. Maybe Patty and Jumbo brought some cross-over curse. Obviously, not, just kidding as a Sharks and Leafs fan. For the Sharks, at least they got to the Western Conference Finals 5 times and the Stanley Cup once.
lost to Sid the Kid, dual Sharks/Leafs fan here as well :)
Sad to see another Canadian Team fall, first the jets now the leafs. Next round another will be out. Just want the cup to come home. 😢
Their primary focus down the stretch was to get Matthews 70 goals; however, it should have been to prep for round 1 and figure out how to play playoff hockey starting at Game 1 instead of Game 5. Blame Marner all you want, but Keefe (and probably the higher ups) chose to focus on Matthews' personal stats over team success.
continue developing team play without puck, active defense zone coverage?
People in Toronto have to....LEARN THE GAME !
Another disappointment for the Leafs and the "greatest American born player" provides little in this series. Toronto fans and media need to reevaluate what they say and the titles they hand away to players that haven't led their team to success.
Imo if they aren't tearing it all down Marner will be in St.Louis or Chicago next season
Are the Leafs going to make some changes? probably Will the changes have little to no effect on their on-going post season failure? probably Is Marner being unfairly scapegoated? probably Will the Leafs be a relatively competitive tier 2 team in the EC for the forseeable future? probably
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"They don't score enough. I never thought that would be a problem"
Huh?
That has been the problem in the 2020 (Nylander & Kerfoot were highest scorers),, 2021, 2022 and 2023 playoffs.
.... with the exception of Mathews 1st series of 2023.
.... Mathews and Marner have pooped the playoffs bed since 2020
Toronto Sports Network acting like Leafs playoff exit is an aberration and not a yearly thing.
Watch CH next year that will be the surprise....GM, Coaches this is what the Leafs should work right NOW.........reconstruction this is the key ...........
I really don't think the Leafs can move on from this era without getting rid of Shanahan. I agree that Marner, Tavares, Samsonov, and Keefe all should be gone, but if I'm Keith Pelley, the first order of business is firing Shanny.
Totally agree with all your points
they played better than i thought they would.
Liar
I feel so sorry for Leafs fans. The players are absolutely to blame. They almost look like they’re expecting to lose. Poor Sheldon Keef too, he will probably get blamed for his player’s LACKLUSTER post season abilities
What is the panel praying for?
Good Looks
I think if Woll played Leafs probably win , Samsonov should have poke checked Pasta, that's goaltending 101
Horrible power play, teams aren't afraid to bully them around and get penalties because they know the Leafs PP is the worst in the league. Just watching that OT winning play is so frustrating too, and I'm not even a Leafs fan. All Leafs barely skating, watching the play while on the ice, with Samsonov just sitting inside his net looking like he just seen a ghost with Pasta coming in.
Didn’t play bad and they showed some gumption this series but the results are the results and to many cracks at this to keep having the same results. Gotta change it up
bruins fan here...i know people love to trash marchand..some of it is deserved but he's trying..lol. but he has three goals and eight points total in seven games decent stats so far.
You calling Charlie coyle a 3rd line center? Get out of here.
Thank You Boston...from the majority of Canadadians who hate the CBC, the Leafs and the city of Toronto in general. The armpit of Canada...
Allowing Pasta to get behind your D like that in OT is inexcusable. Leafs didn't allow that for 60 minutes! First two minutes of OT and they forgot how to play D. Being "cautious" in OT doesn't mean playing slow and forgetting how to play D!
1 word!!!!!!!!!! Reilly
Just can’t get over the line
Is it me? Or is O-Dog slimming down? Looking good Jeff!
He wants to lay Pounder
If we find a way to get Marner and Tavares off this team next year I think even Sheldon could get us to the third round. But fire Shelly too lol i’m so beyond done with this org running the great month of May
Bruins fan here boy i hope they just fire keefe and keep the shanahan plan in place its working out so well.
omg you guys its o/t coulda went 50/50 Im worried about ep40 makin nylander money with beer league heart physicailness & stats
So happy Leafs are out so it’s not all about the leafs on TSN anymore. go oilers go!
One player I agree with getting rid of is marker, to little can’t go to tough areas and just pathetic in the playoffs. Get a top end defender and that’s all I would like to see changed
Willingness to work hard every shift....this is what Toronto lacks. Nies stood out for his ability and work ethic...thats it.
Roll it back. Roll it back. Roll it back.
Woll hot , why change game 7
4 top players, not a team makes
Coach and management don’t know what doing. Players on ice play the game
The core needs too .. if they wanna stay with each other .. take pay cuts ✂️ yup taking about others 💰... yall wanna win here take 2 mil of your paychecks - Johnny, Austin, marner, rielly... then yo7 get another great player like you guys - keep coach - you people do this **** ya cup bound
Boston16 goals , Toronto 12 goals 7 games. Boston av 2.287, Toronto av 1.743. Playoff scoring. Anemic production by both. You don’t win much in the NHL with that type of scoring, even against the worst teams.
Run it back one more time!!!
Amazing how none of these experts want to say anything bad about management! Guess they are afraid of losing their boys club pass!
Watch again, Lindholm doesn't make the red line when he shoots. The play is icing.
agreed, they let icing go now for set plays for some reason.. since they removed the red line it happens a lot! i noticed the one icing that Swayman played too (the Canadian announcer "Simmer" Craig Simpson i believe correctly said what the ... as well, it didn't lead to anything so we don't talk about it... but def strange call)
@@sempcast I am trying to find out why it was waved off.
@@worldswatchdog it’s because Pasta wound up like McDavid in the neutral zone.. typically if no player will reach the puck on the dump-in team they’ll blow it dead as soon as it crosses the icing line… in this case, they could observe Pasta moving in on a set play to retrieve the puck first so they let it go.. make sense?
We fucking own you guys even we aren’t at our best
We know...
Respect to Boston for great coaching and playing a disciplined series. But the Leafs blew this series big time. Struggled to score. Worse power play ever. Shanahan needs to go. Entire coaching staff needs to go ! I don't know what kind of injuries our top paid players were working through but they were mostly invisible. Tavares is no leader of this team. Captaincy needs to change. Samsonov is a great back up goalie but not a starter in important games. We've got some homework to do on the off season.
How was that not icing?
exactly what I thought....it was close, but Boston D-man shot it on his side of the centre line
Is it icing if the Boston player gets to it first
tavares is the sleepiest and most ineffective captain in the league but of course tsn analysts will still come to his defense
JT is overrated and overpaid. Glad to see some fans not blindly loyal to him.
Yes true. I often wondered whether that big hit he took a few years ago affected his motor skills
Brad Treliving is not the guy to lead the Leafs out of this mess. He was a failure in Calgary and he was a lackey in Dallas.
Until they get an elite number 1 defenseman a number 1 goalie ( hopefully woll if not injury prone)
And a power forward they ain't going nowhere with that group
Also a REAL leader team looks lifeless all the time
Frankie couldn’t wait to jump in with his brilliance! Man, this guy is so full of himself! 🤣
Stop talking about stripping the C from Tavares or trading him. He barely touches the puck unless he's advancing it while the team barely sets him up for 3 straight years. How can everyone not see what is obvious?..the guy routinely finds open ice in the o-zone...and play after play after play since Sheldon Keefe has been the coach Tavares doesn't get set up! Look at how much a player like Sam Reinhart gets the puck or Patrice Bergeron when he played. It seems that all Top 6 centre in the NHL get lots of setups except for John because he plays with such diva Core 3 players. HIS ONLY GOAL OF THE PLAYOFFS CAME FROM A SILLY LOOSE PUCK IN THE SLOT - AND THEN HE BURIES IT WITH AN ELITE AND ELUSIVE SLAP SHOT - IF THAT LOOSE PUCK DOESN'T HAPPEN, JOHNNY DOESN'T SCORE AT ALL BECAUSE THIS TEAM CAN'T PASS FOR GOALS. Other than that he was battling his ass off, winning draws, puck battles and nobody was passing back to him...This forward group hasn't set him up routinely since Babcock was the coach. Tavares sacrificed his legacy by joining the Maple Leafs and should be thanked immensely for puting up with this bull. IMHO, an excellent captain. This current iteration of the Maple Leafs is what has held Tavares back. Get rid of the coach and get somebody old school again so that John can finally be set up again. Marner and Reilly should waive, sign everybody else. TAVARES cannot be replaced until about 36. There's no other C in the league that can do what he does. Be honest. His skating is his weakest point, but he is way above average in every other area. If he gets the puck then his 5v5 numbers will increase along with his plus/minus.