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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @ChozoSR388
    @ChozoSR388 8 месяцев назад +260

    So, what you're getting at is, these were, if you had the transceiver model, kind of the world's first portable instant messaging app. Eat your heart out, AOL

    • @davidrobertson5700
      @davidrobertson5700 8 месяцев назад +9

      Surely they would be dead before they could finish the heart and wipe the plate ?

    • @trwindianaoutdoors7996
      @trwindianaoutdoors7996 8 месяцев назад +4

      There are pocket telegraph pieces much older than this piece.

    • @chrisPbacon114
      @chrisPbacon114 7 месяцев назад +8

      Jesus, what a comment. You must be a millionare in terms of reddit karma.

    • @JackManic1984
      @JackManic1984 7 месяцев назад +2

      As long as you were near the telegraph lines.

    • @ttuanmu
      @ttuanmu 7 месяцев назад

      @@JackManic1984That’s right. This is as convenient as a payphone, at best.

  • @flyingdutchman28
    @flyingdutchman28 7 месяцев назад +54

    Every tech item was high tech at one point in history.

    • @SFVYachtClub
      @SFVYachtClub 7 месяцев назад

      The stone age never really ended in a lot of places. There are places in this world today where you can blow people's minds with things like a magnetic compass, lighter, steel butter knife, etc.

  • @DanielGBenesScienceShows
    @DanielGBenesScienceShows 7 месяцев назад +12

    What an amazing piece of history you have! It can be said that I own an extensive collection of telegraph equipment and I can honestly say I’ve never seen one of these!

    • @allen_steel1236
      @allen_steel1236 7 месяцев назад +1

      you said you have an extensive collection of telegraph related items, I'm looking for a spring to repair a 1905 Marconi spark gap the part I need is the tension spring, it's approximately a half inch diameter at the base and then tapers to meet the tension screw, probably a little over 3/8 to a half an inch high. Any idea where we might find something like this?

  • @bolgerguide
    @bolgerguide 8 месяцев назад +115

    The original wire tap device for intercepting telegraph traffic during espionage or investigations.

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 8 месяцев назад +23

      100% that is for covert listening to the telegraph communications - which would justify its high price.
      I mean secret stock trades, corporate financial info etc used to go down the lines unencrypted.

    • @bearnaff9387
      @bearnaff9387 8 месяцев назад +6

      I don't think so, tbh. A clandestine device would allow you to tap the line and only skim a tiny bit of current. It would probably allow you to convert transmission wire into some kind of coil that drove a very small and lightweight deflector. This device requires you to sever the connection to one station or the other. You could possibly use this as part of a clandestine repeater/intercept station, but you would need some kind of keying device to transmit traffic further on.

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 8 месяцев назад +22

      @@bearnaff9387 it does not require that you cut that the connection. It will run with jumpers TO the wires

    • @proto57
      @proto57 8 месяцев назад +12

      Imagine it with a dummy face and set of hands under the glass? If someone got stopped for suspicion, it might save them.

    • @brianveitenheimer4492
      @brianveitenheimer4492 8 месяцев назад +16

      You need to contact a railroad telegraphy club. Telegraph keying and sounding has had a resurgence lately. Railroad telegraphy historians could tell you exactly the purpose and operation of your little sounder. I’m betting it was carried by conductors and could easily be plugged in the line on a station platform to monitor schedule times and adjustments. Most railway office and dispatch workers new code in the 1870s into the 1940s.

  • @JinKee
    @JinKee 8 месяцев назад +33

    This is so beautifully designed. They really had a good eye back then

  • @charlesspringer4709
    @charlesspringer4709 8 месяцев назад +27

    The screws are the same as the screws on a full size sounder where the gap and the spring are used to get a good sound at whatever voltage or current is supplied where you make the connection. Electromagnet field strength is determined only by current and number of turns, and telegraph systems are designed based on current. There were no voltage amplifiers until later.

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 7 месяцев назад

      It's not like they're independent. There is no current without voltage, and they **certainly** didn't have constant-current devices yet.

    • @charlesspringer4709
      @charlesspringer4709 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@tsm688 Correct. In a many miles long single wire (Earth return telegraph) the voltage drops with distance due to the resistance of the wire, but in a circuit the current in equals current out and you have the same current everywhere and the signalling works at any place along the line.

  • @FunnyHaHa420
    @FunnyHaHa420 8 месяцев назад +43

    It reminds me of a gadget from the old "Wild Wild West" TV show.

    • @jchoward6451
      @jchoward6451 8 месяцев назад

      Yes it does! I could see James and Artemis connecting to Telegraph lines, sending messages so they could foil Dr Lovelace's evil genius plans to kidnap the President (yet again).

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 7 месяцев назад

      The telegraph on the train?

  • @jessen00001
    @jessen00001 7 месяцев назад +11

    From a time when things worked a lifetime +
    So fantastic ❤

    • @nagualdesign
      @nagualdesign 7 месяцев назад +1

      No they didn't. The things that were made a long time ago that are still around today we're obviously well made, but there are countless things were made a long time ago that are no longer around.
      All the disposable stuff made today isn't going to last but there are many things built today that are made to last decades or even centuries.
      Don't make the mistake of looking at an antique and concluding that we don't make things anymore that will last that long.

    • @lauriivey7801
      @lauriivey7801 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@nagualdesign I find it interesting that many 'everyday objects' can be found ... I would expect specialty items to last, but something as simple as a hairbrush, or razor, is just amazing (I hardly think ours will hold up as well)

    • @jessen00001
      @jessen00001 7 месяцев назад

      @@nagualdesign please come with some examples. I got a lot of old tools from my grandparents that still run and work.
      So no your argument is not valid i my opinion.
      So agree, its amazing to see things like this 😊

    • @jessen00001
      @jessen00001 7 месяцев назад

      @@lauriivey7801 i do have a throat cutter / razor from around 1890. I do think that they made things to last for a lifetime until they figure out that they didn't sell enough...

    • @nagualdesign
      @nagualdesign 7 месяцев назад

      @@jessen00001 I'll give you an analogy. 1000 people are each given a coin to toss. If you get heads you're eliminated. After 10 rounds chances are that only 1 person remains, because that person just got tails 10 times in a row, but *they weren't any better than the other 999 people at tossing a coin.*
      I guess your grandfather bought decent tools, he looked after them, and he was fortunate. I'm absolutely certain that there were many tools manufactured at the same time, some of them identical to your grandfather's, that did not stand the test of time. And if you bought some decent tools today and looked after they may well last just as long. Some things are built to last, other things aren't.

  • @markmoore9486
    @markmoore9486 8 месяцев назад +11

    The important thing with a telegraph armature is current, not voltage. It takes voltage to generate current of course, but without some resistance you can burn out a coil if you're not careful.

  • @charlesurrea1451
    @charlesurrea1451 8 месяцев назад +22

    Basically a lineman's test set

    • @damnu8089
      @damnu8089 7 месяцев назад

      your right but they are home made from call button from homes ,

  • @jasonwhite2028
    @jasonwhite2028 7 месяцев назад +5

    What a neat piece of history.

  • @xanselmox
    @xanselmox 8 месяцев назад +16

    Those are the hands of a working man

  • @sparkyprojects
    @sparkyprojects 8 месяцев назад +5

    You could make a nice wood base so it looks like how you would display a watch, but hide the bluetooth in the base with a couple of pins sticking up, no need to modify the item at all
    And at that voltage, a lipo battery should work fine ;)
    Use watch oil for lubrication.

  • @abcstardust
    @abcstardust 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for posting! This piece of history is fascinating,

  • @is0p0d
    @is0p0d 8 месяцев назад +7

    very cool video brother, makes a fella nostalgic for a world when technology was more exciting

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 8 месяцев назад +16

    Very interesting little device. I think its a neat idea if these thinfs where popular in a pre phone world. plug your pocket telegraph into a landline and send messages to someone.

  • @bigginsmcsauce
    @bigginsmcsauce 8 месяцев назад +10

    Awesome portable antique tech!

  • @BricksDokisandDoctors
    @BricksDokisandDoctors 7 месяцев назад +1

    My great grandfather had one. The way it worked ( the way he said) is that they would find major telegraph lines and wire tgem through the watch and camp there for a few days. The changes in the telegraph line would do as the video showed. In his deployment he used one to transcribe 27 messages from Morse code. A problem they had though is that they would damage easily from over usage.

  • @BusterHWJones
    @BusterHWJones 8 месяцев назад +14

    Try some sewing machine oil on it. It's great for little mechanisms.

    • @yepiratesworkshop7997
      @yepiratesworkshop7997 8 месяцев назад +7

      Especially since whale oil is so hard to find these days.

    • @Benzinilinguine
      @Benzinilinguine 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@yepiratesworkshop7997legally, sure.

    • @billrowan1957
      @billrowan1957 7 месяцев назад

      Oil and electronics do not go together, Ever!. Regardless of the type of oil. (Just saying not trying to "correct you" or play gotcha)

  • @allen_steel1236
    @allen_steel1236 7 месяцев назад

    Some of these units also have built-in Telegraph keys, or contactors. That would work by pushing down on the adjustment knobs. The connections were made, with a slot that was cut into the bottom of the case. You could slip a bare wire inside of with one connection, the other one was made through a very small phenolic or porcelain insulator with a sleeve that you could put a wire into. Usually there was a set of wires with jumper clips would be carried in your pocket along with it. These were normally carried by signal and test man. Working on Telegraph circuits. As a faster method of pulling out your actual test set that had a line meter a battery, and usually a couple different Sounders to change the line current

  • @SMLEMK4
    @SMLEMK4 8 месяцев назад +8

    I hope the press doesn't get hold of it!
    What with all the phone hacking.
    I don't want people listening in on my morse code porn!

  • @joyearnd
    @joyearnd 7 месяцев назад +2

    This is insane. Pocket morse telegraph... Genius developer device.

  • @paulperry7091
    @paulperry7091 8 месяцев назад +5

    It would be useful for anyone repairing telegraph lines, and possibly for someone working on a railroad track if there was a telegraph line running with it.

  • @kwhp1507
    @kwhp1507 7 месяцев назад +1

    Super cool device. Never seen one before but I don’t know much about the telegraph equipment.

  • @SoonGone
    @SoonGone 8 месяцев назад +3

    That's a lovely thing. I've never seen one before.

  • @jberk8529
    @jberk8529 8 месяцев назад +2

    That is really cool, thank you for sharing!!! I really enjoy Morse Code, and really like learning about different products.

  • @Gabriela_BA
    @Gabriela_BA 7 месяцев назад +1

    What a beautiful piece, thanks for sharing

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 8 месяцев назад +2

    Well I definitely see it used as a spy gadget I don't think that would be the primary case but I'm sure for the right individual it was useful. It's much more on par with pricing of what a current day fluke would be. There are network testers that are $1500+ that do everything. Then there's some cheaper ones in the $800 to $1000 range that don't do quite as much. And then there's some cheap $10 network testers that almost barely tell you that it's working. I would imagine this is something a technician would carry and it would be small and lightweight. and it may or may not have been owned by the corporation they were working for.

  • @TheAlmightySnobDog
    @TheAlmightySnobDog 7 месяцев назад +2

    Awsome litle machine. I was thinking, the noise it does when diferent currents, pass throthg it, could not that be used to recieve morse code too ? This could be like a proto pager and later walkie talkie, because, its portable, and you could recieve messages with it. It would be cool to know more about it. Thank you for sharing :D

    • @RVSparky
      @RVSparky  7 месяцев назад +1

      Well yes. Morse code. Telegraph signals of that day I believe were all Morse code.

    • @TheAlmightySnobDog
      @TheAlmightySnobDog 7 месяцев назад

      @@RVSparky That is very interesting, i didnt know such devices existed in such small size

  • @rickschrager
    @rickschrager 7 месяцев назад +1

    Too cool. It's a portable surveillance gizmo. Wiretapping device in your pocket.

  • @UnitSe7en
    @UnitSe7en 8 месяцев назад +6

    I was briefly confused and wondered why NurdRage had another channel.

    • @RVSparky
      @RVSparky  8 месяцев назад +1

      Is that a good thing? Ill have to look up that channel.

    • @UnitSe7en
      @UnitSe7en 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@RVSparky Chemistry. Same voice. Same setup on-camera with a close backdrop and a sheet of paper with a logo. Just an funny coincidence!

    • @PerspectiveEngineer
      @PerspectiveEngineer 7 месяцев назад

      @@RVSparkyits a good thing

  • @TheShivABC
    @TheShivABC 7 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome, thanks for the video, I love obscure tech!

  • @berni8k
    @berni8k 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ah at first i thought this would have been a miniature spark gap RF transmitter.

  • @nokel2
    @nokel2 7 месяцев назад +3

    looks like something you'd take to antique's roadshow

  • @RichardSkokowski
    @RichardSkokowski 8 месяцев назад +6

    Seems to be kind of a 19th century "butt set".

  • @fumrious
    @fumrious 8 месяцев назад +2

    Cool! Similar to the gadget taped to the blackjack cheater in the movie “Casino”, but not as crude

  • @Zodliness
    @Zodliness 8 месяцев назад +3

    Age is just a number, everyone can be baffled and amused for hours guessing what antique gadgets do? 🤔😂

  • @skipstewart9376
    @skipstewart9376 7 месяцев назад +1

    That’s a very unique and very cool item, thank you for sharing with us

  • @Blank-n7c
    @Blank-n7c 7 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing telegraph pocket watcher

  • @MemoWardwell
    @MemoWardwell 8 месяцев назад +2

    Obviously, man that uses his hands for good ! As a licensed Amateur radio operator, I saw one of these in a collection.

  • @javiercastro8466
    @javiercastro8466 8 месяцев назад +3

    My bet is that it is a clandestine listening device to intercept telegraphic traffic.

  • @russellperry9902
    @russellperry9902 7 месяцев назад +1

    Antique cellular telegraphy. Awesomeness.

  • @TheJimbob1603
    @TheJimbob1603 8 месяцев назад +5

    I bet James West had one!

  • @xlerb2286
    @xlerb2286 8 месяцев назад +2

    You could make a little stand for it that has electronics in it to occasionally send out a message.

  • @maryjones5710
    @maryjones5710 7 месяцев назад

    Gorgeous little device. What a great find.

  • @StephenRansom47
    @StephenRansom47 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nice find … such a thing must have been Fantastic to any boy that caught sight of it. Totally Science Fiction … for its day.

  • @niftymoth723
    @niftymoth723 8 месяцев назад +3

    I always wanted kermit the frog to ta explain antique watches.
    This is definitely going on the sleep playlist

    • @RVSparky
      @RVSparky  8 месяцев назад +2

      Well Id be honored! Ha ha.

  • @trespire
    @trespire 8 месяцев назад +2

    Basically the ancestor of the I-phone.

  • @Max_Mustermann
    @Max_Mustermann 7 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting find. At first I thought it was some sort of spy equipment. Although there probably wasn't that much spying going on during the Victorian era.

  • @jameshicks7125
    @jameshicks7125 8 месяцев назад +2

    I am in that FB Group. This is pretty neat. I'll have to look at the group page.

  • @mr.powell8817
    @mr.powell8817 8 месяцев назад +1

    This looks pretty neat, i'll google sounding for more sounder content
    Oh good heavens

  • @pfsmith007
    @pfsmith007 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very cool relic, thanks for sharing.

  • @Rezin_8
    @Rezin_8 8 месяцев назад +1

    ❤ 4v is what my 50s gear uses ❤
    thought it was an old tattoo relay 😂

  • @dale4034
    @dale4034 8 месяцев назад +4

    A cool little gadget.

  • @shuffleB
    @shuffleB 7 месяцев назад

    Dude, this is cool. I thought it was a pocket watch for a blind person, sounds ever 30mins or so. But what it actually is, is kinda cooler.

  • @isacchris1
    @isacchris1 8 месяцев назад +1

    That’s really really cool!

  • @LA6NPA
    @LA6NPA 7 месяцев назад

    Maybe for display, you ought to turn the coils around if you can? Maybe turn the whole mechanism? As the coils are obviously bleached on the glass side. Or maybe just use a green marker and freshen up the green? You can get very high end water color markers (not the acrylic ones) that was the standard for drawing ads with back in the day, and they come in all sorts of colors. Maybe try to colormatch? Make sure you don't get a paint marker. The thread around the magnet wire will soak up the color with just normal water based ones. That slightly pale bluish green is really nice with the silver!

  • @Evilzionistbabykillers
    @Evilzionistbabykillers 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wow that's a great find , never saw or heard of them

  • @PsyTechnical
    @PsyTechnical 7 месяцев назад

    Wow, I had NO IDEA!!! AMAZING!

  • @jessen00001
    @jessen00001 7 месяцев назад +1

    Looks very interesting

  • @Jack_Wolfe
    @Jack_Wolfe 7 месяцев назад

    3:30 it jamming because they used to oil springs, likely the oil has coagulated. But it also might have some form of insulation between the two shafts that’s rotted

  • @jamesallred460
    @jamesallred460 7 месяцев назад

    Wow. What a cool find!

  • @werewolf74
    @werewolf74 8 месяцев назад +2

    When I saw this thumbnail I thought maybe you pressed the top down to make a charge. Or generate one. so depressing it does not make a voltage out the bottom? you are applying voltage to make the coil contract...if not something as simple as a piezo crystal might work. I cant help but think this may be a spy thing as well.

  • @mephisto1176
    @mephisto1176 7 месяцев назад

    A pager from the late 1800's, that's nuts lol

  • @JackDaloots
    @JackDaloots 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'd love to find one of these. I'd wear it as a pocketwatch.

    • @Крщенебудуказати
      @Крщенебудуказати 7 месяцев назад

      In that way you will to have overloaded pockets with weird clocks, spark strikers, bullet casting molds and other stuff

  • @darrelluther5569
    @darrelluther5569 7 месяцев назад

    very awesome never seen one either thanks for shareing

  • @doggodoggo3000
    @doggodoggo3000 8 месяцев назад +1

    super cool! thanks for sharing!

  • @plincoman
    @plincoman 7 месяцев назад

    i know well and true i have no need for such a device.... but damn it i still kinda want one, thanks for sharing!

  • @davidrobertson5700
    @davidrobertson5700 8 месяцев назад +2

    Seems like it could be used to eavesdrop when connected in parallel to the comms circuit........

  • @sterlingbloomfield4458
    @sterlingbloomfield4458 8 месяцев назад +3

    That is so cool bro

  • @johnathandavis3693
    @johnathandavis3693 8 месяцев назад +1

    Having something like that in your pocket, and you were in the wrong place, could probably get you hanged in WW1...

  • @mikefishhead
    @mikefishhead 8 месяцев назад +3

    Morse code key fob

  • @badreality2
    @badreality2 8 месяцев назад +1

    Isn't telegraph wire operated @ 1.8 - 3.3 V? Isn't 4 V still too high?

  • @jvebarnes
    @jvebarnes 7 месяцев назад

    I can imagine these would have been used by Texas Rangers, Marshalls, Railway Men, and others for more than testing. To send messages on the line so that people in the local telegraph office wouldn't know a message was being sent or received.

  • @palarious
    @palarious 8 месяцев назад +1

    that's really cool.

  • @JRF777
    @JRF777 7 месяцев назад

    wow...interesting device, with a lot of style, thanks for showing it, it's strange that you are referring to something "presumably used", like a forgotten technology, this is very fantastic and intriguing, it sounds to me like those rockets that reached the moon or The speakers that JBL produced in the seventies that could not be surpassed, and their knowledge has been lost and it is now impossible or very difficult to build them, it really seems to me like an oopart that comes from a parallel reality that was forgotten by an interdimensional traveler, or uses an esoteric and ancient science such as the myth of tartaria. Presumably it can be an intercom that uses static aether luminirefos as the great master maxwel taught us

  • @fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
    @fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 7 месяцев назад

    You could make a docking station that looks like just a socket since the connectors are at the bottom. Would not need any modification of the device.

  • @TheCrakkle
    @TheCrakkle 8 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting piece.
    Thanks

  • @JMWexperience
    @JMWexperience 8 месяцев назад +1

    Pretty sweet!

  • @jonasgeez2140
    @jonasgeez2140 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wow how cool

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 7 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting video...👍

  • @SafarNamabyMuhammadFarooq
    @SafarNamabyMuhammadFarooq 7 месяцев назад

    Wow! it is antique! like telegraphic sound device but question is that how they decode ??? interesting.

  • @jameslabs1
    @jameslabs1 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @DrSid42
    @DrSid42 7 месяцев назад

    Beautiful !

  • @alexkuhn5078
    @alexkuhn5078 8 месяцев назад +2

    19th century smartwatch

  • @TheErichill
    @TheErichill 8 месяцев назад +2

    Maybe a Bluetooth enabled stand.

  • @felixman9691
    @felixman9691 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much for sharing this!!! So cool!!!!

  • @stanleyhape8427
    @stanleyhape8427 7 месяцев назад

    Aye, nice find . Thanks for sharing.

  • @smudgey1kenobey
    @smudgey1kenobey 7 месяцев назад

    Now THAT is COOL!

  • @ehrenkrause9861
    @ehrenkrause9861 7 месяцев назад

    The only thing I could think that would have been for testing would have been with telegraph was advancing to telephone and that might have been just Make sure that the current was traveling far enough to function

  • @thedude8046
    @thedude8046 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome piece 👌

  • @GothGuy885
    @GothGuy885 7 месяцев назад

    I wonder if the basis of a relay, was from the electro- mechanics of a telegraph sounder?

  • @hamesh3474
    @hamesh3474 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome 😊...the mroto startac of the 1900s

  • @kraig800i
    @kraig800i 7 месяцев назад

    I was thinking this was a way to test the line when you mentioned what it was, but do you think it could have been used as a pocket listening device to bug a telegraph line with little to no fuss???

  • @SnareX
    @SnareX 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nerdrage?

  • @Radioman.
    @Radioman. 8 месяцев назад +1

    Probably old style pin jacks.

  • @michelmullaney3641
    @michelmullaney3641 7 месяцев назад

    What people do not understand is Morse code is universal and doesn’t have a expiration date

  • @benjimenfranklin3668
    @benjimenfranklin3668 8 месяцев назад +6

    Looks like something Adam West would have 😊.

    • @VidkunQL
      @VidkunQL 8 месяцев назад

      Adam West? How so?
      (Do you perhaps mean James West?)

    • @benjimenfranklin3668
      @benjimenfranklin3668 8 месяцев назад

      @@VidkunQL
      You know Batman had some crazy stuff.

    • @VidkunQL
      @VidkunQL 8 месяцев назад

      @@benjimenfranklin3668 No argument there, but 1) it was all in a 1960's theme, not steampunk, and 2) Batman and Adam West were not actually the same person.
      (Some would argue that Batman and Bruce Wayne were not actually the same person, but I digress.)

    • @benjimenfranklin3668
      @benjimenfranklin3668 8 месяцев назад

      @@VidkunQL
      Details ,details ,details.

  • @ContributorX
    @ContributorX 7 месяцев назад

    Very cool 👍

  • @PerspectiveEngineer
    @PerspectiveEngineer 7 месяцев назад +1

    Neat!