Everyone Is F@*king Leaving CS2
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- Опубликовано: 16 апр 2024
- Top CS2 content creators are quitting the game and have pledged not to come back until Valve fixes their anti-cheat.
We’ve truly reached a breaking point. So - who’s leaving? How serious is it? And will this finally force Valve’s hand to do something?
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Valve knows how to put out banger games, but not taking care of them, TF2: abandoned, CS: a joke full of cheaters. I'll never understand why Valve adresses literally nothing, they're like the dad who goes for a pack of cigarettes and never comes back LMFAO
*The dad who is genuinely an incredible parent then just disappears after teaching you everything you know.
thats cause they aren't desperate for money, if they were actually greedy they would try much harder, also Valve is not a huge company, what they make is huge but Vavle itself does not have thousands of empoloyees i would be impressed if they even had 100.
@@the_charliecp8859 just looked it up they have around 1100 employees lmao theres no excuse
@@the_charliecp8859 they also make around 400 mill a year from cases
@@the_charliecp8859 loool I feel like it's more that the games are making money by themselves without needing to really work on them so why would they bother ? cs2 is making money from people buying cases not necessary the one that tryhards the ranked. If the game is losing 10K a month because of people leaving because of cheaters but it would cost 50k a month to hire people and develop an anticheat ? from my point of view valve seems like such a greedy and idc mentality company it's insane, valve doesn't care about money but the only update are to add more skins to buy, valve doesn't care about money but take huge taxes on people that publish video game on steam because they have a monopoly. Valve doesn't bother working on thei game because they know the dyhard cs fans won't move anyway
VALVE I FUCKING BEG YOU MAN, HOW THE FUCK DOES VAC NOT RECOGNIZING SPINBOT INSTANTLY
years of training their vac through overwatch...learns nothing 😂, means overwatch is just bs.
Because the is CS- Cheaters Strike.
Hahaha this is call to go play valorant csgo nerd
VAC was completely off, until last update.
Now it's working in Light mode, just collecting date, and giving obvious bans.
In general Valve is kinda doing a smart thing, by teaching VAC Live on real cheaters, but as a fair player I feel like I was experimented on.
they just dont care lol. they just wanna make money from the skins market
If WarOwl says he's quitting then it's serious... and he still has no closer.
@ceciliacole5098 Yes, I know. I saw both videos his and this one. Thank you.
closure* 🤗
its not serious. last 3 months all +gains. these boycotts from content creators are laughable. they will still be playing the game and it will result in nothing.
@@werder93That phrase is how WarOwl ends all of his videos.
@ceciliacole5098me to smooth brain to figure it out, I always called it an end card and I never understood what war owl was saying
>Ignores TF2 cheating problem
>Ignores CS cheating problem
Valve: Why are we getting bad rep?
>Ignores Half-Life 3
>Ignores Left for Dead 3
@@Kanalankettu omg, just forget about hl3 and lfd 3. Still crying yourself to sleep knowing they won't be released ?
@@ceshmate1953valve fanboy
Y'all roasted this guy's haircut so much in the last video, now he's wearing a hat
I checked, after that video he's been using a hat since
LOL! I just noticed that! 😂
I don't even pay attention to it, like y'all are mean 😂😂😂
Cyberbullying works
(for legal purposes, this is a joke. please do not actually cyberbully)
what video was it
CS is getting the daily TF2 experience, which is both hilarious and sad.
Oh yeah.
I Wonder, What are the odds that once valve fixes cs2 anticheat in 2038, it would affect tf2? Or is none of the code compatible and they just cba with tf2 at all (probably this)
@@gluehuffer6955maybe tf3 lol I doubt valve doing shit for TF2 anymore since source 2 is out
@@Josh-ri4rd TF2 reboot and not TF3. Valve can't count 3
@@gluehuffer6955 tbh all the community wants now more than anything else is a functioning anti cheat that can help with the bot problem so the player base can actually play the default game matchmaking
Unlike TF2 they have tournaments and selling stickers for cash rewards in those tournaments so its not the same as TF2. Its like do you want to abandon it or not ? Can't be both
Rather than boycotting the game, if they boycott the steam market: not open any cases, not buy or sell any skins. Then, valve would try to do something
I quit too if anyone cares
I do❤
I care
I don't
I quit too The community needs to boycott this and stop playing or valve won't give a fuck.
I care.
its hilarious that big creators are "boycotting" the game while turning around to open cases and actively give money to one of the most profitable companies in the industry. the only thing these companies pay attention to is if theyre getting the money they expect you to shell out without thinking, and if everyone wises up to that and stops mindlessly giving them money, valve might actually realize they _need_ to do something about it
@@user-cl8cl6qc5t gambling addicts are why this games as popular as it is unfortunately
word, just have i wanted to mention that
Yea, everyone complaining but paying for the game is the reason for their complains :)
They are a bunch of hypocrites
Exactly. Valve couldn't give a damn about the general player base. They only care about making money from skins and people opening cases. 75% of the players could leave and never touch the game again and it wouldn't make a difference because the 25% that are left are steady going to be opening cases for videos, doing trade ups, etc. and they will still make cash hand over fist.
This new trend of deleting the old game and forcing everyone to play their new version is one of the dumbest things that showed up in modern games and Im disappointed Valve dived in this nonsense. I guess they are paying the price now.
Fully agree, but just a reminder that you can join community servers using the demo viewer in the beta tab. It’s not great but it’s definitely a thing you can do if you wanna play a decent game.
Valve had no choice with CS:GO and CS2 because of their monetization model. I’m not defending that as a practice, but had they kept the games separate, the skin ecosystem would have tanked completely. Either you create duplicates, allow skins to be migrated, or simply replace the game. In either of the first two cases, you vastly inflate or split the market, which tanks prices.
this is the one time that it actually was a good idea to just delete the original game
It’s not really a new game, it’s an update
@@hunchie Actually no. As the same way the skins have maintained, they could just do what Garrys Mod does, a beta branch for 64 bit and the official uses 32 bit, it uses the same appid, so the skins would have been the same on both games. they could have easily put CS2 has default and CSGO as a "beta preview", which is where is currently still available, they simply abandoned support for CSGO simply because of the state of CS2, they couldn't be working at 2 games at the same time maintaining them, we would see even less updates that we see nowadays, and the infraestructure cost for both official matchmaking servers wouldn't make sense
I hate the people who say “just play faceit” like I shouldn’t have to download a third party system to play the game normally. That’s like having two tv remotes that separately change the volume and channel
I have 7400 hour in cs. 3300 match in faceit. Not found any cheater. Once u download all faceit and anticheat. Next step is easier. But the player in faceit much harder than MM.
Yeah you shouldn't have to do that. However, if you want to play counter-strike nowaday this is the only way. Don't blame ppl for playing the game they love, blame the company that is making 1'000'000'000$/year (with just cases & keys) & still doing nothing.
I do have two separates remotes to turn up and down the volume... it's kinda ridiculous but, well, anyway....
faceit has tried to do this to tf2 - they changed so much of the game in their versions. I wouldn't be surprised if Faceit is paying for the bots on tf2
Just play faceit
What really fuels CS (and Valve) at this point is the gambling addiction around the game. The game can be unplayable, but teh addicts are still hooked and will buy cases until they go broke.
And only long after the game is completely dead, they'll realize that all their investments are worthless.
Maybe quit your addiction now, before it's gonna cost you everything.
Valve will not give a sht honestly and certainly not gabe they make a fuck ton from steam alone. Leaving cs2 into slow spiraling death is an option that is not new to them.
Agree that lootboxes is a very outdated scheme. It makes it worse for Valve games since it’s the OLDER version of lootboxes where you need to randomly get the crate first before having to buy the key to unlock it (as opposed to the industry-standard gacha-style lootboxes where you don’t need to buy a separate key to open a crate when you can just get the crate itself directly purchased and opened)
Cs2 isn't about competitive gaming it's all about selling digital skins and boxes for rediculus prices. That's how valve makes money and a lot of people don't even care about the game as long as the store is working and making their addicted brains satisfied enough.
Ur not lying at all lol its true long as they give a case here and there some skins every 12-16 months ppl will stay it’s sad
CS ever since the gunhat update in :GO has always been about that. Teenagers and young adults were the main demographic for both Valve's marketing and all the bad actors that were spawned as a result of the ecosystem they created.
Yeah but valve doesnt set the prices, they only sell keys, and keys are like 4 bucks, its all user driven economy, so if the game sucks the liquidity of the skins will go down
It's just modern gaming.
Multiplayer decency is out of the window, it doesn't matter anymore.
All big titles were affected by this stupid shit.
you can say that about any game that sells skins...
IF and only IF valve is working on an anticheat so powerful it will put the fear of god into everyone and everything, then maybe just maybe having to deal with all these cheaters might have been worth it
no chance they are working on one
@@1cedcoffee They are, thats their number 1 priority atm
that is all wishful thinking at this point. and will be for the future as well, Even if they update the anticheat...
hopium
@@IWatchSecks How on earth would you know this?
I played the game for 10 years and quit two months ago. The nonexistent anticheat or lack thereof ruined the game. Even before CS2, it was bad, but now it's unplayable. Valve, you wasted 5,000 hours of my life.
Switch to Valorant, its the closest experience to CS and it's cheater free. Thank God for Valorant, this genre of game I like and since Valve is doing nothing I've jumped ship until they fix the game, 4 years of valo later, I prefer it over CS now
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@chonkyboi._. there's no way
@@chonkyboi._. I Wouldn't play valorant even if anyone gives me out money, lmao. Can't stand that gameplay bs. Spraying is like impossible in that game, and the powers are just annoying. Also, CS2 is getting much easier to new players to play, but somehow "harder" to veterans... They broke the game, nothing hits.
play faceit bro it's not that hard
I don’t care that employees at valve can work on whatever the fuck they want. They need a fucking dedicated development team for this game. A fucking cornerstone esport
They created a successful esports title, then sold out on the jerseys like a ballclub does
Valve obviously doesn't care.
Anomaly saying hes leaving the game and a few days later opening 6500 cases....yeah XD
he said hes leaving matchmaking and premier not cases. Besisdes his entire channel and content is pretty much built around those cases and skins.
it was recorded before he quit
He said he quit MM, anomaly and other skin dudes are still involved with the skins market.
hes quit playing cs but still is involved in cs. I dnt play cs im more like ohne where i just buy skins and leave them in my inventory
@@lesfm561 "leaving the game but not gambling" good, that wasteman should quit internet entirely
Unfortunately, I don't think anything will happen until the player numbers significantly drop and cases stopped being opened. I know it's unrealistic to ask a creator like anomaly to take a huge hit of revenue to stop CS content altogether, but his words won't sting unless he FULLY goes to a third party gambling site.
Player base is already going down, you just can't see it because of farming bots
hacking has been the MAIN issue in counter strike for over a decade, its crazy to think that they didnt fix a thing on the release of cs2 alongside it still being worse than ever 7 months after the release...
If they take cheaters as serious as tf2, its probaly fixed in 20 years ish
By the time they have fixed it gta 7 will be released
All valve need to do is let us know they’ve acknowledged the problem. By being silent on the issue it comes across that they don’t care and that’s probably not true but it just seems so disrespectful to stay in the dark about it
video addresses this point. theyre silent because any acknowledgment has big potential to hurt their bottom line because theyre admitting that something is wrong, needs fixing, and that maybe you should come back later once they have
but because they make so much money on skins they do not want people leaving. their financial incentive is to say absolutely nothing until they start losing money, which their gambling addicted fanbase ensures will not happen
players who are interested in fairness and quality are not valve's concern anymore. CS2 is for exploiting people who struggle with addiction and/or impulse control. this isnt a game anymore, it's a casino
@@KTSamurai1I haven't heard a truer statement ally friends don't even ay the game or they aren't very good they don't have any intention of improving but they will spend their last dollar on skin club 🤦
Valve has addressed the hacking problem in tf2 years ago and like has done nothing since. Acknolweding the problem is nothing.
Maybe they try to do it secretly so more ppl will be banned once the anticheat works. If they announce it ppl might have a chance to stop cheating and not getting banned
In a podcast from The talking counter, the casters/analysts who are making this podcast spoke to some cs devs at the Copenhagen major and they said to them that the anticheat right now is the number 1 priority
tf is actually happening inside valve? its like no one is working on cs2, last dota 2 update was ages ago
unlike Riot and other companies that hire people to then lay off like 10-15% of em when theyve noticed they are actually not making as much money as possible, valve is 50 people or something like that, it is also a private company, it is small and the people they hire are people with a lot of experience which you can see in the careers website of valve. Also ive never seen a headline of layoffs from Valve as opposed to every other company in the industry so the people they hire stay there or leave on their own accord.
@@the_charliecp8859you’re making excuses for a game company that could hire people to work on an anti-cheat. Cheating was so incredibly terrible in CSGO that people how to download an outside client to even play the game. Now CS2 is filled with cheaters. There’s no good excuse for this considering how much money the company makes.
they counting money the whole day
@@the_charliecp8859 stop d-riding Valve, if they were so good, why isn't the game fixed and content complete. Does only big corporates like Activision , EA are warranted for criticism and being a private company only proves that gaben himself doesn't give a fuck if his games work or that anybody in the company is doing anything at all. All that's important is the cash flow from steam and skin economy.
@@hemangkorane1797 if they cared so much about money why would they allow sites to do the item selling, just take away trading and make it so steam is the only marketplace where you can sell the skins, also increase the steam tax while they are at it, and make the max price for an item larger than 2.5K since they care so much about money they might as well increase the max price and get more tax from larger sales
TF2 Players: First time?
I fucking hate Valve that treats it's audience as some sort of social experiment instead of actual human beings.
They don't owe you anything dude. You're acting like they are commiting war crimes, while they don't need to release their plans or give updates. We aren't entitled to that.
Need to stop playing AND stop opening cases until they respond and fix things
1 million was ingame yesterday, so it is impossible to reach out
@@ReDHaWko Nah,just bot farming case on deathmatch
way ahead of you. I just collect my weekly drops and nothing else
@@reason7973yeah, 1 million bots
Gabe doesn't care about CS, he wants it to die. He's a Dota2 andy.
Then why release CS2 at all then
Dota2 is also dying bro they already left the prize pool at saudi and its been a while since they update the game
Tf2 just decaying in the corner:
@@afiqula It's funny how you talked about tf2 cause it just just got updated from 32 bit to 64 bit the day you commented
My wet dream is valve dropping new season update with map rotation working ac and huge ban wave, two weeks later new operation, dreams... What CS needs is competitor and I'm not talking about valorant which is not even close to what CS is, I am talking about a game which will make valve devs look at each other and be like ' shit we actually have to do something or we lose tons of money ' but right now there is no game close to cs so they simply don't give a fuck because people will come back no matter what because there isn't good enough alternative.
i mean yeah, Valorant is not close cause their game is currently doing better overrall xD
I’ve been playing hella rainbow six since CS has been fucked with hell cheaters . They just released the skin marketplace so it’s a start , but no where close to CS skins
@@FaceFish9 valarante cartoon grafix
No game will ever come close to cs thanks to the gambling addicts ofc half of the player base doesn’t care about the game they care about the cases and “Valorant doesn’t even come close” buddy vavle had 2 decades head start on CS games and now Valorant pull more monthly players who actually there to play . I have never seen more pathetic company who makes extremely good games just to abandon them
@@vintagejock3951 better than being a cheating hub lmfao
It's so sad to see how much of a cess pool this game has turned into. Anything above 20k elo is unplayable HvH lobbies, anything above Gold 1 in comp is unplayable HvH lobbies. Comp ranks are completely broken, 95% of the player base are ranked Gold 1 or below. I've had TONS of Silver 3-EM lobbies where there's Faceit Lvl 10 players on the enemy team with 50+ comp games played, but they're still in Silver/low gold with 80% WRs.
Funnily enough, red trust now is more playable with less cheaters.
your fault for wasting your time trying to play the og ranking system nowadays, if you actually cared to play the game you'd be on faceit.
@@uhh6785 99% of people play a video game to have fun and enjoy it. Faceit isn't enjoyable because you have 10 minute queue times for a 20 minute match, 20 nade site execs, and raging sweats who think they're pro players. It also just solidifies my point that Valve is doing awful if the default answer is "just use a 3rd party service lul".
@@tehDmez yeah bro i don't think there's a single person alive that thinks Valves doing a good job.. skill issue then bro
@@tehDmezAh yes, when a competitive shooter game gets competitive. How crazy.
I am so burnt out on FPS games right now. I have thousands of hours in CS and R6, among other comp fps titles, and everywhere I go right now is infested with cheaters. The moment you start gaining MMR, the odds of facing hackers goes up and up and up. All my life I have been a comp FPS player, but lately, i have found myself not wanting to play any of my favorite games because I know I will just face hackers. Hunt, r6,cs,cod, everything I try has cheaters. I try to go back to old games: cheaters. I try new ones: cheaters. what is going on?
FPS games are super popular and reward you the most for cheating I feel like. My first couple weeks on faceit I got refunded ~100 elo from cheaters. Haven't seen one in awhile now though.
I would kill for tarkov faceit servers.
I mean, in my 2 years of Valorant ive only had 2 cheaters, and I got them banned instantly 😅 and it's always fun to play casually
Decode yourself and play a game where the dev does care about their game like helldiver2 and retire playing fps and just stick to casual fun games like lethal company
Val?
Try Valorant. Almost no cheaters 🎉
Valve won't fix this until they will be back from vacation on beaches
Which is never
VACation
don't they take like 3 vacations a year? lmaoooo
why focus on premier and mm when most of their profit comes from gambling addicts opening cases and trading. as long as hackers dont interfere with that they wont really care.
its gotten to the point that me and my friends are "happy" when we play vs neckbeards who "only" have wallhack , the crazy thing is all these cheaters are so bad it looks like they play with a flight simulator joystick.
Was on board, but paused and leaving once I heard that they aren't actually leaving the game, they're just playing it the way every other content creator has been playing competitive CS since FaceIt came into being. This is nothing, they are doing nothing, and nothing is going come of it, because nothing begets nothing.
if you‘d watch til the end, you‘d have heard that they‘re obviously not stopping producing content (cases, faceit, maybe even try to play premier) since that’s how they male their money, you can’t really blame then, you‘d probably do the same ;)
Arrow doesn’t even play cs in the first place, dude just sits in calls with big creators or opens cases on stream
they will never fix the anti cheat
Why think so
my friend started hacking to see how fast he can get banned , he did with 2 diffrent accounts and u not gonna believe that it takes 35-40 games to get banned each time by valve
Even this probably won't be enough to fix anything.
no, no. they’ve got the point
gotta be honest, the “no, no” shit is obnoxious
@@lukeX2m^
They aren't quitting. They're playing Faceit only now and happily still pushing CS skin sponsors. So in other words, they're all just clickbaiting.
I don't play any FPS shooters anymore but back before when Valorant released, a couple months after, I started playing and got hooked. After over a decade of CS, it was a great breath of fresh air where the servers felt good, the gunplay was responsive, peekers advantage was not nearly as bad as CS, and the community wasn't toxic (at least in the way of CS). Best of all, MAYBE one cheater in the hundreds of hours I pumped into the game. I stopped playing games altogether, but returned when CS2 came out to see if it can bring me back. Fourth game in, found a cheater. Fifth game, found a cheater. Both blatent. I gave up. It's clear the game was rushed out to compete with Valorant's encrouchment on their territory. This isn't a shill about what game is better than the other, but one certainly feels a whole lot better playing it because of some issues Riot addressed that Valve can't seem to address. No gambling and no cheating. Valve can make great games but fuck if they can't support them well. It's always the community that needs to do ALL the heavy lifting. Third party anti-cheat, making their skins, events, etc. Take off the rose tinted glasses, Valve is not nearly as good as people think they are AS GAME DEVELOPERS.
removed 60+% of maps, griefing reports can be done by enemies, cheaters (including build in commands), shitty engine. What is there not to like.
Shitty engine? I feel like source 2 by itself is alright
You could report enemies for griefing in csgo too, whats wrong with the engine?
@@IWatchSecks In csgo i never had griefing ban.
In cs2 i got 4 accounts just because even in wingmen i got banned (once you drop 30k) or play with/against stacks.
Compare performance.
Go troll somewhere else please.
@@LeonItsMe Not sure how you getting banned for griefing is games fault. You expected them to release a full visual overhaul of the game and have no impact on performance? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@IWatchSecks not sure your comment got anything with human intelligence.
I hope everybody boycott CS two until they fix the game and go back to counterstrike 1.6 in counterstrike source community servers. Show the OG games some love.
If valve actually fixes vac it could also help TF2s bot problem
Has anyone also quit the game because all your friends quit the game and have no friends to play with ✋.
Its really bad im turning 30 this years so im not as sharp as i was 10 years ago playing 1.6 so i just want to enjoy the game but its so bad that i just dont want to open the game at all
Dont worry guys Valve is probably working on half life 3 so the new anti cheat for cs 2 will be released in like 5 years 👍
First time I play this game, not even on premiere, 3rd match i enter and there’s one guy looking at the floor and getting all the killss. Had no idea what this is until a week later.
Didn't Valve release a statement on Team Fortress 2's current state (Filled with spin bot on official Valve servers) and has since done NOTHING to follow up?
Exactly lool
Valve: " Oh no CS2 is fked rn. Let's ask s1mple then"
Delete CS2 and bring back CSGO
fr😊
I quit months ago, because 2 cheaters with very obvious wall hacks and bunny hops joined, my whole team reported them and weeks pasted and they were still playing the game on the same account without no problem. Valve doesn't care so why should we? Just stop playing this game until they care about it.
Everygame is reaching that point currently havent touched my pc for over a month
Im also waiting for valve to actually do something. I havent played since 2 weeks ago, im playing league of legends and am having tons of fun xD
5:00 What is he talking about??? He has NA selected as a filter and is shocked that players from EU and other regions aren't shown? Just select ALL lol
Even if you filter by world right now there are huge gaps in the ranks. This popped up on one of the first ban waves, so those accounts are for sure ban.
"CS2 community, we hear you! We love this game and know you do, too. We see how large this issue has become and are working to improve things."
7:35 when the dev said that he meant you cant just directly port it over to the new engine they had to rebuild the game from scratch, he was saying it’d be impossible to take csgo and put it on source 2. And he wasn’t wrong, they had to remake the game from scratch which meant getting rid of all the little bandaid patches and rebuild the systems from scratch to what they were at the end of csgo. If they didnt do this the game would be a buggy mess because of all the little bandaid fixes they made which doesnt really adress the issue in the first place just makes it less noticeable
Lol, for all of these guys shitting on Valorant, they have to admit that you don't see cheaters nearly as often.
Quiting cs2 and switching to valorant is the best experience but valve need to fix it.
Or maybe switching to story Campaign game's
The only fix to current issues in cs2 is either play faceit or play valorant😂😂
@@Saiyan476 yeah valve dont care about thr cheater as long as many player is playing his game
Quitting crack and switching to krokodil.
@@Saiyan476 faceit is the same thing
Thinking about this from a business staindpoint, and the talk about AI anticheat, I can't say with 100% certainty what valve is doing. BUT, It takes time, and more specifically training data (hacker demos) to develop an AI anticheat. The more time, and the more hackers present, the more accurate it will be. Also, it does not make sense from a business standpoint to release a game, then abandon the game within six months. It's a horrible investment of resources, and when anticheat is the primary issue with people leaving the game, they know it will cost them to never implement. Call it copium, but the current outlook of "release cs2 and instantly abandon it" genuinely doesn't make sense.
TF2 has had a spinbotting bot problem ruining valve-sponsored matchmaking for somewhere around 3-4 years at this point. Hoping that the threat to valve's cash cow in CS2 might actually bring about changes to VAC and improvements to preventative anticheat.
5:12 is not because they are cheating or something, the rank number is global and the dude has the filter of NA region, that's why he only sees some numbers from the people in that region...
My brother in fucking Christ, instead of fucking waffling in the RUclips comments section, open your fucking CS2 and change it to "World". There are still a shit ton of rank numbers missing.
"everyone is leaving cs2" WarOwl was live on cs2 right when this video was posted
Valve always was a silent / non communicative company and while this isn't a good thing it also wasn't an issue because things generally worked ok. But valve didn't adress this issue at all. And it wouldn't be an issue if they had fixed this few months after the release but the game is out for longer than just that. Also the ranking system in MM is broken. If you were a global with 1.4 kd and on faceit 3k elo level you now are in silver/gold nova and nearly no one is above MG ranks. They broke so many things.
Unless Valve uses an invasive anticheat, with strong penalties, ip/hardware bans, this will always be, another solution is adding identity to your steam account, passport/driving license or similar depending on where you're based, then you got issues like people young who don't have access to this, risk of data leaks, preferential/back end treatment.
CSGO had a lot of cheats, FACEIT has a lot of cheats, ESEA had a lot of cheats, people will always cheat. This is going to make zero difference, if these "streamers" think overwise, they need a serious reality check, most of them are completely mediocre players, if that, let alone entertainers/influences.
EVERY GAME HAS CHEATS, even Valorant with how good/invasive their anti cheat is.
Retail CS, 1.6, CSS didn't have as many issues people you was either pugging or you was playing properly, generally around 3rd party anticheats or in select/known scenes where there was accountability and reputation.
Now the majority is just people pugging chasing an irrelevant elo/rating, because they don't wanna play properly or don't have the time too, I'm not on about the road to just chasing a contract somewhere or some sponsers, playing in teams vs teams, competing, at all levels, the infrastucture just isn't there anymore, it's ALL about pugging.
Removing elo/rating, removes a lot of cheaters trying to get higher in an irrelevant ladder/number, removes the stress for a lot of people facing or enduring it whilst pugging. Add in some option so you can forfeit without a timeout penalty if you end up in a game with a group which has cheats if you can't vote off if you're outnumbered.
Or simply just play with stacks, 9/10 times you'll face other stacks which is surely better odds than not. Play on 3rd party as it's slightly more secure, wasn't an issue before, it's shouldn't be now.
Even with how bad it is, with how accessible they seem to be, without much penalty, remember, a lot of people calling out cheats are below/average players with limited experience and gamesense, I'm not talking hours you've experienced in this or similar fps, I'm talking playing properly, it's a team based shooter and 90% of the playerbase now, are simply puggers/mixers.
Not everyone who frags you, or outgames you, or catches you out is cheating a lot of people need to realise that before spitting dummy out.
Only thing which will get Valve even thinking about this is, a HUGE loss of player traffic or a HUGE loss to the market which ain't gonna happen.
This genius releases a statement saying he's quitting and not supporting them game and also relases content about opening cases.
Valve letting cheaters cheat to reveal the cheats to AI
lets hope
again COPIUM and dick riding
i mean.. that is what Riot did and now there are no cheaters in Valorant almost ever so...@@imGhost_2612
Just switch to Valorant ❤
bots like you love valorant because they suck at counter strike
I don't like Kernel level "anti-cheat" so no thanks
I would play pinball from windows XP before thinking of playing valorant
@@Cigaro_ you a legend
Fuck this, im going back to half-life deathmatch
I have left CS2 3 months ago, a game I’ve played since 2012, sits dormant in my steam library for the first time since then.
and people say Valorant anti cheat is too "Intrusive"
It is. All kernal anti cheats are. They also aren't the catch all for cheaters. Plenty of cheaters in valo people just don't admit/realize it. The anti cheat is good though I'm not saying it's a bad anti cheat by any means.
I don't mind intrusive anticheats if they work. I mind intrusive CHINESE anticheats, that's all.
Valorant has a lot of cheaters as well, the thing is that Vanguard detects a good amount fast and the rage mode cheaters are detected pretty fast, but the people that do "legit" cheating are not being banned either... That's why Riot has not implemented the replay system they had it ready for almost a year and is only available in China, where cheating has legal issues. Valorant has a lot of cheaters, also lately even some free chetas can surpass Vanguard.
PD: is not only Valorant and CS, at the moment the cheaters are winning in almost every game.
Also I like Valorant and CS is not a fanboy comment or so, I have like 1500 hours on CS and 1200 on Valorant, I play both, I like both, I critique both.
Valorant also has a lot of cheaters the thing is that Vanguard is really good at detecting rage mode cheaters but the ""legit"" are huge... That's why Riot hasn't released the replay system outside of China, they are hiding the cheaters as well...
Every online FPS is with a lot of cheaters right now...
Also it is not a fanboy thing or something I have like 1500 hours on CS and like 1200 hours on Valorant, I like both games... But both have cheating issues... You can see almost every post on Valorant social has the replay system as top comment, people are realizing the thing about not enabling the replay to hide cheaters...
It is
Valorant clears
Corny
Waiting for the hate comments
mann i'm jealous a game like that can get a good anti cheat its fucking annoying...
Valorant has a cheating issue that is huge too, the thing is that vanguard detect pretty fast the rage mode cheats, but just look at the comments of every post on social media of valorant, everyone is asking for the replay system because they think that Riot is hiding the issue...
pd: I play a lot Valorant and CS, I like both is not a fanboy thing is just how things are right now...
@@lefthornet I can imagine valorant players going "omggg can we pweaseee have a replay system uwu? :3" on riot's tweets lmao.
At this point, I'm convinced that there are less cheaters in Tarkov
Wish you covered the rising player count more at the end
Really enjoy your takes on games man. Don't always 100% agree but I like your style. No dckriding. But still no overdramatizing
Anomaly has not left CS 2. He is still releasing CS 2 videos
sorry did you just put walt jr on the thumbnail next to anomaly and warowl
They had the chance to make the game based on the anticheat. That's unforgivable...
The only one who should be paid any heed here is WarOwl, he's experienced enough and could probably discuss the issues in a grown up way.
'Everyone' aka 3 random case addicts who say they are quitting then open a gazillion cases mere days later because they know their community would up and leave.
The only way this could ever be justifiable (and it still wouldn't be 100% justified to have to put up with the current state of the game) is like you said, IF they're working on the pinnacle of anti-cheat. That is the only way they could in any way justify the lack of communication and persistence of the issues at hand. Although it probably is just copium, I really hope they can pull through with something that is so good, we won't ever need to worry about cheating again. It's entirely possible with the advancement in AI tech, but it's also entirely possible that they're just doing nothing & don't care.
5:35 That means to boycott Steam.
5:52 Important to consider that Valve is the only storefront that 99% of people use. They're still going to be getting tons of money even if cs2's activity drops, it might not even effect them at all. They're not going to care enough to fix anything.
I think that's the problem. Maybe half of the Valve devs actaully care about CS2 and the other half doesn't give a shit so they were like "whatever, you work on it if you want to, we dont care if it dies or not" and exactly like you said, they're making the majority of their money from other sources so who gives a shit about CS2. And it shows that they don't give a fuck as a whole company.
I haven't placed cs since 2015, I was Supreme master in competitive. I tried CS2 last week and it feels like a whole new game, granted I'm not nearly as good as I used to be, but still. Felt really different.
Valve in a week be like - " ̶T̶F̶2̶ CS2 community, we hear you! We love this game and know you do, too. We see how large this issue has become and are working to improve things."
The mental gymnastics you do at 6:12 are actually hilarious. What were you thinking lol
every time i join a lobby its empty and when i do see people on its the same people I usually see on everyday
thank you for actually pointing out that valve doesnt care as long as people keep buying cases. quit the game quit buying skins we will get a fix FAST.
Valve Doesn't give a fuck... It's been more than 7-8 months ....
It’s crazy that you can’t even surrender with out someone disconnecting
Kernel level anti-cheat is in a lot of games as is, Riot was just public about it. Easy Anti-Cheat is kernel level and it is not nearly as good as Vanguard when it comes to detection.
would appreciate a video on the new CDL team agreement. cod is a growing esport and this team agreement has reach and bounds that will set up cod and can possibly set up all of esports for a better future.
man, I love how warowl managed to hit two birds with one stone there.
This shows that either Valorant got so big Valve doesn't want to but in the effort anymore or it didn't get big enough and they don't feel pressure to change stuff fast enough.
It's beautiful to see a community finaly stand up and demonstrate against devs *together*.
I totally agree, 360 employees total. That includes the management, HR, infrastructure. So I suppose they probably have a handful of people capable of designing a antiCheat. With so many games and Dota I am not surprised that they are not able to work on it. Maybe they should hire a external team for a while to take care of it.
spinners in all my office games feelsbadman
valve statement gonna be like CS2 community, we hear you! We love this game and know you do, too. We see how large this issue has become and are working to improve things.
Alex (Senzura) got so tired of cheaters and life management, he quit and makes the living as a trucker xd
CS2 - get your shit fixed
Valve is busy with their "Brain interface" project, it's that much more important to them than any game they could be making or supporting existing ones.
The issue with Valve as a developer is that their money don't depend on their games, it doesn't even affect its economy in the slightest because of how much money they make with Steam
I gave up on playing premier since about 1 month ago when there were two cheaters on the enemy team and I asked if anyone on our team had cheats to fight their cheats. Needless to say, we had a cheater on our team so it turned into a cheaters vs cheater match
All of them are now playing the game again. Streaming and making videos. They can't stand by a word they said 💀