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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • Ok guys you asked for it and here it is. I’ll pin a comment with time stamps explaining what’s happening. Every diver makes mistakes and it’s important we learn from them

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  • @Belowbluewaterdiver
    @Belowbluewaterdiver  2 года назад +92

    Ok so a lot is going on here and lemme explain as best I can what’s happening and when
    This was towards the conclusion of a nearly 2 mile drift dive done from shore. We were expecting to see our end point and make our way to shore.
    Why be in deep water so late into a dive? That puts us into the fast waters that will ensure we make our exit with air
    0:19 we approach the wreck of the ME Tremble from the front, which is less than ideal, you see it’s shadow a few moments out before you’re on it. Ideally you wanna keep swimming to the right and go under her bow, going up and over is risky because 1. You can get pinned to her front 2. There’s usually an Eddy inside that can grab and then trap you inside her
    0:57 the current begins to shift, normally behind her provides some cover and you can rest with little effort
    1:20 air check, this is less than ideal when I plan to visit this wreck the turn back point is 1800 PSI this is because the current can will and does shift without warning, it’s not uncommon to burn your entire air supply on the return trip, and here I am with 1100 close to half of what I should have
    1:28 my mask begins to flood putting me into panic mode from this point on I can’t really see
    1:33 flooding also happens in my regulator for roughly 20 seconds I’m unable to breath and I take in water, making me panic even more
    1:48 I opt to return to the bottom instead of making a run for the surface. Why? Because freighters drive right over this spot. The decision to stay on the bottom likely saved my life as you can see a freighter go right over the spot at the end of the video
    2:26 after regaining my bearings a little I begin my escape from memory, you swim out from the first wreck let the current catch you and hopefully blow you over and into a second wreck which you can use for cover
    3:21 the current is pretty intense here as you’re in the open and exposed, you use the nails as holds and work your way up like climbing a ladder
    4:42 home safe, mask cleared and seeing again calming down and completing a safety stop

    • @ajcook7777
      @ajcook7777 Год назад +4

      Where is this at? I live in Sarnia, is this under the Blue Water Bridge or close by? Damn that current is no joke...
      The eddy currents under the bridge area are just ridiculous, did you ever see that video of the guy who let a freighter go right over top of him? The prop was like 5-10ft at most away...
      Cool vids

    • @mustanggun
      @mustanggun Год назад

      That sounds like a fun drift dive.

    • @solo8820
      @solo8820 Год назад

      Safety stop at home?

    • @annwithaplan9766
      @annwithaplan9766 Год назад

      I'm not a diver, but I kind of figured that was happening with the air supply and mask flooding. I didn't know what else was going on and it was about giving me a heart attack. So glad you made it out ok!

    • @AustinD1993
      @AustinD1993 Год назад +2

      Sounds like a rediculous choice of a dive

  • @OrionGuided
    @OrionGuided Год назад +55

    Came here because of your Dive Talk post. Crazy stuff man, glad you live to tell the tale

  • @LauraE0223
    @LauraE0223 Год назад +7

    I always appreciate when fellow divers share their more “interesting” dives shall we say. It is nice to be reminded of what situations can arise. Training in diving NEVER should end!!! No matter what your experience or the amount of dives you have. Thank you for sharing!

  • @chulo1996
    @chulo1996 Год назад +28

    I think you handled things well. You controlled your panic and avoided shooting to the surface, got your breathing semi under control by the end, and thought your way through things. The safety stop is optional at the end of the day, so you could have surfaced safely with air to spare. Props for putting this video up

  • @vironpayne3405
    @vironpayne3405 Год назад +5

    Dude that was scary! Blowing through air like its going out of style. I thought maybe you were 17m-18m and it was scary consumption, but 17ft-18ft. It pained me to listen.
    I've never had a regulator fail in the water. I typically dive triple redundant on air, 2nd regulator, and spare air bottle. A lot of dives are essentially solo.
    I live with leaky masks. My face has lots of bumps and creases. Lots of silicone and clearing my mask are part of life.
    That was a nice ripping current. If you were hunting a reef that could work out.
    This video is the dive that got my air consumption below 0.7cuft per minute to about 0.4-0.5cuft per min. 0.7cuft per min is considered a normal surface air consumption rate. Once the sharks came in on my first shark dive it was a surreal peaceful dream almost. I totally relaxed and ended up petting all seven lemon sharks that showed up as I sat in the middle of a small bait ball near the chum basket.
    I am terrible at hunting fish and lobster, but I still get invites to increase the boat limit. Bull sharks generally check me out and hit another dive buddy that is a serious hunter. My suit smells like old man pee. Theirs smells like yummy bloody fish.
    I used to get in the pool regularly and close my eyes to practice various tasks like removing mask, removing tank, removing BC, clearing mask, deploying safety sausage, rolling up and securing safety sausage, etc.
    I've only had one time where I got tangled in my spear line near the end of a dive and ended up leaving the speargun by accident after I got cleared. A buddy found the gun a few weeks later. 😃 I had borrowed one of my brothers guns as I was starting out and he had 4 or 5.
    Please get well practiced and learn to relax.
    Randy Jordan dropped in about 98ft of water and gets a serious urge to poop. He hits the bottom, gets his kit off and suit around his ankles in a 5knot current, only connect by his regulator and the mouth piece pops off. He has no weigh, no air in a ripping current and he's about 8ft-10ft from life. He manages to sink his fingers into the bottom and pull his way back to his kit and stick the mouth piece back on. The downside. He had to crawl through the red seaweed that gives you a itchy red rash.
    Randy is a beast that ran a dive boat for over twenty years. His SAC rate is 3cuft per min. He dives a 60cuft high pressure steel tank.
    ruclips.net/video/I7MkGGpnAKk/видео.html

  • @yungbobross6418
    @yungbobross6418 Год назад +11

    Thank you for uploading this. People will backseat dive for you, and obviously you made mistakes or none of us would be watching this video because it would be a normal dive. I don't think it's fair though to act holier than thou as if mistakes aren't a part of the human experience. Scuba makes these mistakes jump exponentially in risk factor, but still, mistakes happen and I appreciate you letting us learn with you. Stay safe!

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +7

      Thanks for the reply and viewing this. My intention was full well for people to learn from this. Everyone who has put in enough dives is going to make mistakes and have close calls I just happened to have my camera running when it happened. My hope is for people to learn you can escape a bad situation by sticking to your training, and not giving in to panic.

  • @menemshaoneninesixeight2487
    @menemshaoneninesixeight2487 Месяц назад

    Having been diving in this exact spot, and upstream from the Martin, for 34 years at this point, the dumb comments and questions by some of these keyboard commandos are a hoot. This particular stretch (the headwaters) of this particular river is the most unique, magnificent, treacherous, and addictive dive site in all of Michigan, with it’s own unique requirements, tactics, and rewards that has to be experienced to be understood. Dive here “enthusiastically” enough, and this river CAN, WILL, and DOES surprise one with random, potentially overwhelming, shall we say…..”lively times”, NO MATTER THE PLANNING. We who dive this river, all get a taste of these “lively times” at some point, and usually more than once. It’s why diving here never, ever, gets old, and why (for those of us cut out for it) there are so many “lifers” at this river.

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Месяц назад +1

      @@menemshaoneninesixeight2487 I’ve been diving the upper river since 2010 and pretty frequently too usually getting 100 dives a year up there. You are exactly correct, you dive the river sooner or later you will have a crazy dive where it seems the river is actively trying to kill you. The river is the greatest diving in the Great Lakes for those willing to stick with it and learn how to adapt and overcome its challenges. No matter your experience level, no matter your planning it will throw an…..eventful dive or two your way time to time

  • @clintwood9472
    @clintwood9472 Год назад +8

    That's pretty intense stuff. I couldn't see the depth on your computer due to the glare and I got super confused as to why you took your fins off and clamped them to the chain. Makes total sense now. I dive in the discharge channels of the hydroelectric dams in South Dakota to spearfish for walleye and the current there is no joke! Super easy to find yourself in trouble if you don't keep your wits about you. Good to see you were able to made a safety stop and get home safe.

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +3

      Yeah lots of divers here put their fins on the wrist and climb up. I find that too much of a hindrance so I drop a chain in for recovery! It also doubles as my platform for lights when I night dive

    • @clintwood9472
      @clintwood9472 Год назад +1

      @@Belowbluewaterdiver what a fantastic idea! Totally going to steal that.

  • @jehovani5956
    @jehovani5956 Год назад +1

    Wow that was intense. glad you were able to keep a clear head people dont realize how dangerous diving really is.

    • @jehovani5956
      @jehovani5956 Год назад

      MOST people visualize the the ocean is still and it just isnt lmao. its what feeds the planet Atlantis me. ;) and yes i do love you my love for you all has never changed.

  • @ms.bunniesarecute2287
    @ms.bunniesarecute2287 Год назад +3

    I would have died! I already have panic attacks on land. Happy you're ok!

  • @imdoc7872
    @imdoc7872 Год назад

    This was insane. Glad you made it safe. My heart was pounding the entire time I watched.

  • @juanvillarreal4054
    @juanvillarreal4054 29 дней назад

    The sad thing is NOBODY shared air or the diver should have communicated properly he was low on air .the Divemaster/guide failed miserably at recognizing the huge potentially mortal problem.

  • @JordanReedYT
    @JordanReedYT Год назад +6

    Glad you made it brother. 😮

  • @betsybarnicle8016
    @betsybarnicle8016 Год назад +5

    You kept track of each other pretty good. - good buddies.

    • @1balky
      @1balky Год назад +2

      This is far from 'good dive buddy'. His buddy was nowhere to be found when he had troubles and in the end he left him in the water to do the stop by himself. Even if low on air, your buddy has some spare. And where's the deco bottle? Should have been there where he left his fins. And removing fins in such a current, ohhh don't let me start about that. Just bad bad from planning to execution. I wonder who certified them.

  • @thegamerboneless2864
    @thegamerboneless2864 Год назад +2

    At least your not flying around with hooks, I have seen drift divers using hooks, and rods with a bend a the end. Tearing coral and everything else up.

  • @AngelofDeath2All
    @AngelofDeath2All Год назад +1

    Why I hold my breath when watching this type of videos? Im not the one scuba diving.

  • @1balky
    @1balky Год назад +3

    PLAN YOUR DIVE AND DIVE YOUR PLAN! None of that can be seen here.

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад

      Please see the pinned comment , there was in fact a plan and the dive was done as planned. HOWEVER we left the bounds of said plan when we ended up drifting too far due to a faster current that day

    • @1balky
      @1balky Год назад +2

      I've read that before commenting. You just didn't plan well enough and I see that from 'we left the bounds of said plan'. A plan to turn back on 1800 PSI sounds good, but I don't get how you ended up on 1100 PSI without noticing? I mean, first things you learn at a diving course is to check the gauge and do it often. Furthermore, why didn't you have the deco bottle in place where you left your fins? That way you wouldn't have to leave your dive buddy and go out, something you never do. Should I even mention taking off the fins in the current? Never do it until you have a firm grip on the ladder you are using to get out. For such risky dives, you need to have a contingency plan, the deco bottle being just a part of it.
      I know this sounds like a criticism, but I hope it is a constructive one.

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +2

      @@1balky an 1800 PSI turn back isn’t feasible there for one simple reason. The current pulls you into deeper water until nearly the end of that run as planned. Once you begin the run into deep water there’s no way back until the river itself bends and breaks the current up. I knew where my air was at the point where the video started and that certainly was a point of concern. We were anticipating hitting slack water and making our way to shore. I normally would turn back at that wreck with 2000 PSI. Approaching it that low on air was bad hence why this was a close call. As for the fins, that little spot where we exit the current goes nearly entirely still so taking fins off on the bottom is a non issue.
      This video was posted for everyone to learn I don’t at all mind criticism, thanks for coming by and expressing your thoughts

    • @1balky
      @1balky Год назад +2

      @@Belowbluewaterdiver And thank you for a better clarification of the situation. As you say, luckily everything went well. Of course it is easy now to sit and comment someone else mistakes. I just wanted to point you in a direction where it wouldn't be as nearly as close as it was. Like sticking to your buddy, he could have helped at least in calming you down when the problems occured plus provide you with some air to finish the dive together. And the deco bottle like I said earlier. I bet you could now add a thing or two also since obviously you know the dive site and the conditions. Cheers and take care!

  • @robert9595
    @robert9595 Год назад +2

    Man i can only imagine how terrified you were

  • @SculptedThoughts
    @SculptedThoughts Год назад +2

    04:54 you found the Stargate!!

  • @jezuscristo489
    @jezuscristo489 Год назад +1

    Damn, I'm glad you are ok, I know how afflictive having your mask full of water, specially... at 60 feet, and furthermore the regulator being flooded, I guess you purged it right away, nevertheless, 60 feet "about 19 meters" is no fun and games, but those are the situations that give us experience to learn and control ourselves.

  • @iamblacktalon
    @iamblacktalon Год назад +1

    Thank goodness you made it out safe. The current looks pretty gnarly.
    I don’t understand, why take your fins off and clip them to the line? If your buddy needed to share gas or you get separated from your fins you wouldn’t be able to propel yourself efficiently.
    I take off my fins only when I’m holding on to the ladder, and even then, I clip them around my wrist in case I need to put them on again

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +7

      So the reasons for clipping the fins on the bottom are pretty simple
      1. That ladder is the only exit without a current present. Just beyond it the current picks up again. So if you accidentally dropped your fins attempting to get up the ladder they are gone
      2. Fins get in the way of scaling the guard rail. I’ve seen far too many people over the years get their fins in a weird spot and fall back into the water
      As for getting getting back to a buddy/getting back to your fins. Nearly all propulsion in diving this river is done by hand. Your basically rock climbing on the bottom, fins are generally used for cutting across the current. At the exit they are no longer needed for that task

  • @marktweet7395
    @marktweet7395 15 дней назад

    Post dive audio would help

  • @batman6749
    @batman6749 Год назад +2

    hell no this buddy systems she not even worried about him she is done you see he is having a hard time

  • @seldarinesc3135
    @seldarinesc3135 Год назад +7

    What a training moment for everyone. is there anything you think should have been done differently or do you think if you had done something different the outcome wouldnt have been good?

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +14

      Things that should have been done differently
      1. A preemptive move to shallower water based on how long we had been drifting would have avoided the wreck all together
      2. A larger reserve of air would have also negated the threat caused by the wreck.
      Things that could have easily caused things to have been worse
      1. Losing total control. I was borderline panicked but never fully crossed the line I couldn’t think rationally
      2. Emergency ascent from the wreck. A freighter went right over it within minutes of leaving it. A logical solution to just surface as you’d do in most diving emergencies doesn’t apply here at this location. Surfacing would have only made issues worse.
      3. I narrowly missed getting pined to the front of the wreck, that would have been a death sentence

    • @seldarinesc3135
      @seldarinesc3135 Год назад +5

      @@Belowbluewaterdiver Thank you for the in-depth reply. I have definitely had some close calls before i wish I had recorded to be able to share and reflect on.
      Thank you again for sharing your experience and replying. I now know what to do and what not to do.

    • @AustinD1993
      @AustinD1993 Год назад

      ​@@Belowbluewaterdiverhow about "not diving there & choosing somewhere else more logical & less dangerous"?

    • @matthewthompson6455
      @matthewthompson6455 11 месяцев назад +1

      @austind2023 but where’s the fun in that ?

  • @chickenman151
    @chickenman151 Год назад

    Have fun. Never gonna scuba... I hang glide and paraglide...
    Which is the exact opposite of scuba. I love air freely to breath.

  • @masterscubaman
    @masterscubaman Год назад +1

    Ridiculous diving

  • @josephgobbs2889
    @josephgobbs2889 Год назад +1

    What caused your regulator to flood? I've never seen that happen before.

    • @Yggdrasil42
      @Yggdrasil42 Месяц назад

      Strong current can cause it to free flow or flood.

  • @tpruiett75
    @tpruiett75 Год назад +2

    when your regulator started flooding, do you switch to an octo? What causes it to flood? Glad your ok!

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +1

      I didn’t switch to my octo, I stuck with my primary. The current blew soo hard it flooded my reg and mask more or less at the same time.

  • @ajcook7777
    @ajcook7777 Год назад +1

    Where is this at? I live in Sarnia, is this under the Blue Water Bridge or close by? Damn that current is no joke...
    The eddy currents under the bridge area are just ridiculous, did you ever see that video of the guy who let a freighter go right over top of him? The prop was like 5-10ft at most away...
    Cool vids

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +1

      This is directly off the range tower on the American side right where the river starts to bend. The Canadian side has the slower waters compared to the American side!
      The video you are referring to with mick Riley? We literally went right through the site on this dive, that’s before the bridge just north of the anchor on the American side. I’ve had freighters go over my head before lemme tell you that’s not desirable! The video doesn’t do justice just to how LOUD they are. The good news is you can hear them a good 7-5 minutes before they are above you………plenty of time to leave!
      Stay safe Dive often stay tuned for videos on your side of the river

  • @clonewitharotarycannon1941
    @clonewitharotarycannon1941 Год назад

    Imma be honest I’m not that smart most of the time can I get an explanation?

  • @streetmeatencounters
    @streetmeatencounters Год назад

    Where can I dive this.?

  • @mustanggun
    @mustanggun Год назад

    For a river, the viz is amazing. Cool drift dive. Where is this river and location?

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +2

      You should see some of my other videos if you think this water clarity is great! This is the mouth of the St Clair River in Port Huron Michigan. Viz is wind dependent but can and does reach up to 60+ feet sometimes

    • @mustanggun
      @mustanggun Год назад

      @@Belowbluewaterdiver thx for the prompt response and answers brother. I’d really like to do that dive someday.

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  Год назад +1

      @@mustanggun I’d highly recommend joining the ST Clair River Divers Group on Facebook. This isn’t a place you can’t jump in blind, you gotta go with people who know what they are doing and be prepared for things to get dicey from time to time

  • @lance8080
    @lance8080 4 месяца назад +1

    Why do you have to go touching things ??? Pick up the trash if you want to touch things

    • @Belowbluewaterdiver
      @Belowbluewaterdiver  4 месяца назад

      Maybe just maybe because when you dive rivers and you want to hold your spot (or at least slow down) you get low and go hand over hand. You’re welcome to try hands free river diving if you’d like. Thanks for the comment

  • @jessemajalca5235
    @jessemajalca5235 Год назад +1

    i dont see a problem here..... whats video about.....am i stupid...what happened whats going on....how bout whats problem exactly!!!!wtf

  • @valise1794
    @valise1794 Год назад

    What’s the dive site?

  • @mark99799
    @mark99799 Год назад +1

    Can someone explain what happened? I don't know what the words drift etc. mean. Thank you