@@pongman40 yeah, but we really know this, it's just that to put it in a comprehensive format like that in English we may have problems simply because we have not thought about it.
Langfocus is a channel that I follow and is one of my favourites. I find Paul, the presenter. an excellent researcher and effective communicator who treats all languages with professionalism and respect. In this feature on Jamaica he would no doubt have consulted the Jamaican experts in language and linguistics, most likely from the relevant faculty at the UWI and other such informed sources. It is hoped that more Jamaicans, especially those interested in languages, will now follow this very interesting and informative channel.
Mi rate this man fi real! Looks like he’s doing a big move that Jamaica needs to pick up in standardizing Jamaican Patois and make it an official language
I've been looking for a complete course for years. There is none. I just watched the video that he is reviewing yesterday, which is why this one came up. This Caucasian dude's video is the closest thing to accurate that I've seen in a long time.
It would be hard because there are so much different dialects and versions. Also patos isnt really a written language so when it comes to spelling, it's all just by ear which can sound and be interpreted differently by different people.
Yeah, but don't mimic the English writing nonsense. Use an alphabet where each sound has its exact letter and make no exceptions: e.g. cat=kyat; can=kyan; cannot=kyán; I=mi; for=fi; many=naf; lot=ulíp; do it=dwít; dynamite=dendimayt respect=rispek; god=Ja; world=wód; etc. (Of course these examples may not be perfect, as I don't know Patois well.) When a world has multiple different pronunciations, allow it to be written multiple ways (sintin, sopm, etc).
@@atdzsny take the Spanish approach. I've always said that if English we're anything like Spanish, it'd be a much easier language to learn and understand. In spanish every vowel's pronunciation is set in stone. A=ah E=eh I=ee O=oh U=oo example: my name is = mai neim is. In fact, if you apply this in English, it become easier to read any Latin based language (Spanish/Italian/Portuguese/Romanian/Catalan/some but not all French too)
@@Profsr_Ecks OK, but "is"? Shouldn't that be "iz"? Vowels are alright in Hungarian, too. But don't overlook the consonants: use different/accented ones instead of combined ones and avoid redundant ones (e.g. make JA true=čú, not sg like chue; talk=čat; next=neks; sheep=šíp).
Yes as a fellow Jamaican 🙋🏽♀️🇯🇲 I’ve heard the word “Bafan” used but from the older generation like my mother and grandmother. I doubt it’s still being used as commonly in Jamaica today though.
@26:00 yes Patois is a language and its unfortunate how so many of us are so uneducated about native tongue. And worse of all we have the nerve to tell people its not a language. I studied Caribbean creole in university and this research is spot on. I just hope we can embrace our language for what it is.
Langfocus is a linguist and gets to find common words in all the languages. He breaks down alot of languages on his channel. When I saw him do Patois, it blew me away. Im going to be sending both these videos to my family so they can enjoy it. And then I have to brush up on my Patois.
I'm glad Etan reviewed Langfocus. It's nice that a foreigner could do a good representation of Jamaican Patois. I'm not surprised at Langfocus' knowledge of Patois and its socio-cultural history and syntax because he is obviously a Canadian linguist. I just wish that I would see Black people represent themselves more often (not saying that I have any problem with Language Focus). Excellent job by both channels, Langfocus and Yaadman Etan.
St Elizabeth and St. Thomas, Hanover and Westmoreland ppl say the wen,ben deh n stuff like that. Had s classmate in utech that I nicknamed "em deh" because usually during presentations she says em deh instead of uhm or aah or and
@@keliawysoki6912 just based on observation of a classmate over a period of 4yrs. This is not to say that every single person from these places speak that way. There are many other factors that affect a person's language or dialect.
Feel like I went to school on this one! My major was communication and I got teary-eyed when he connected the African origins of some of the words. Keep up the great work!!
He really did an amazing job. A lot of the things here I knew from growing up and learning in history but not that many foreigners know my history and I’m glad he did the research.
Nah lie, mans come and drape and box mi up. Very informative for people of the Jamaican culture and especially for people who think they know Jamaican culture. “Bafan” mostly use in country parishes though. That’s when I heard it the most. I’m also glad that he pointed out the fact that there’s a variety of patois in Jamaica cause a lot of our people are oblivious to that fact.
I'm not jamaican, but my dad is from St. Thomas and growing up he used to play a lot of jamaican reggae. I was the only one of my peers to understand jamaican accents but I'd say i mostly just understand the middle section. I understood you very clearly but full on patios is a little more difficult. I loved this video though!
I'm black American. I work with two guys who were born in Jamaica. Sometimes I stand on the side and watch them have a conversation because I love the sound of the language. I pick up some words and phrases from videos like this and use them when I'm around them. They say I should have been born in Jamaica. I tell them on the inside I am Jamaican.
"Bafan" is a very well known slang used to describe a clumsy person. Its surprising u neva hear it before. Jah know ethan, white bwoy know more than you paadie. LOL
Yep, heard bafan all di time from older people; they use "wen'' in western Jamaica. By the way, I grew up in Mandeville, and after 6th form I went to work in Westmoreland, and that's when I realized how different we speak based on the parish we are from. As a youth, I always could spot a "Kingston" accent. But trust me, there are more accents in the various parishes.
Yea as Jamaican he did such a good job, knew most of what he spoke because we did this in Threater Arts, Social Studies and Caribbean Studies. I'm just blown over that a foreigner got patios this good remind me of being in school. Living in Canada and want people to understand our language send them to this video. And I'm from Ocho Rios/Red Hills what wrong with Red Hills people wi not all rich enuh some a wi a suffarah. And hear bafan alot in st Ann when yuh mother a cuss yuh because do something wrong means handicap as well and him we use as well from conversation would always be able to tell if it's male or female
" How you mean you doh subscribe yet? " Bro everytime I see your intro I legit say it with you without realising lol BLESS UP ETANNN !!! Keep flaming bro , love from Saint Lucia !! 🇱🇨 🇱🇨 🇱🇨 🇱🇨 🇱🇨 🇱🇨
Jamaican linguists have been telling us this same stuff for decades. Kudos to LangFocus for their hard work, and it's just such a pity that it's taken THIS for some of us to listen
What you don't understand in Patois is really so. These deeper patois is used in the deep rural country. I learn so much from this as a Jamaican, because I am doing a patois channel
I'm from St.Vincent this was a lovely video the breakdowm of the language just amazing ... Vincentian dialect holds alot of similarities so i understood most of it 🤗🤗🤗
@@theo150290 If you’re talking about in America it’s kinda complex with different words that have the same meaning some words can be short for a series of words like yuh get weh mi a seh and zimi which mean is the same thing.
@@tosauxy7207 I was referring to the upper class in Jamaica, well most of them not all, as they see it as the language of the uneducated at times where it's more apart of the Jamaican culture, and if we were taught more about it in schools I think we would appreciate more of our history and culture
So as a Jamaican who left at 4 years old, I can understand most words in patois but not all of them. I try to speak it but I sound like a robot. I just stick to speaking English
@@jabbajawz there is a difference between fafan and bafoon though... bafan means that you are clumsy... bafoon means that you're an idiot or you act like a clown
@@jabbajawz That's not the genesis bro. Bafan comes from Akan speaking peoples. Usually meant a child that has some kind of physical retardation. Over time the meaning expanded.
"The old heads (Kromanti) created the language for their Jamaican born descendants". I learned that from my grandfather. Jamaica comeback to ƆNYAME ME FƐFƐ JAMAIKAN ABUSIA
It's really rejoicing to see someone so passionately be pleased in the way their culture is depicted. Kinda made me proud of Langfocus. Pretty interesting to watch.
I would like to see you compare Nigerian Pidgin to Jamaican creole coz I see a lot of similarities. Love your videos by the way ❤️ ~ from your African sister
I said the same thing on a panel of pan-Africans, and a Nigerian who didn't know about Jamaicans thought I was just an ignorant American. She didn't even know I was complimenting both of them.
Yep. I understand about 70-80% of patois if someone speaks slowly. My theory is that as Caribbeans (esp Jamaicans) are West Africans, they processed English in a similar fashion to their continental cousins. Ebonics also has a lot of structural similarities to West African Pidgin English.
He really should make that video! Many Jamaican creole words derived from Nigerian Pidgin and Many Nigerian languages. My fiancé was shocked I understood Nigerian Pidgin when we first started dating. I always told him it reminded me so much of Jamaican Patois.
Black Heart Yeah I totally agree with you and besides there is absolutely nothing wrong with similarities. As a matter of fact the two countries share ancestors. I guess some people are just too nationalist.
"Bafan" was a word commonly heard in the seventies. I was a little surprised when you said that you have never heard that word before. I've noticed that patois sounds a little differently than when I was growing up especially in Kingston not so much in the country.
I'm a Jamaican and I've never heard the word bafan inna mi life mi affi guh ask mi mada if she know dah word yah bafan lol😂 But overall mi learn alot from this video an dah Breda yah did him research and mi a tell yuh seh him mek patois look easy fi learn mi nah lie big up yourself yute👍
Thanks for adding your commentary and thoughts in response to this video! It's good to hear that the original video was accurate and reflected the dialect and history well!
I think this should be taught in primary and secondary institutions here in Jamaica as this is a lot of Knowledge. As a matter of fact, I believe this video should be shown to these kids as well so they have an idea of how their language came into play. Thanks, yaadman Etan. I learnt a lot from this.
His research was really detailed he even used examples from the central part the island and also talked about the root of modern-day patois which Karmante
🤣😂 I got a real kick out of listening to you use the words acrolect, mesolect and bassolect. You seemed to really like those words. ☺️ I do not know if he said so but they mean high speech, middle speech, and low speech in Greek. I loved the video. It was really cool to hear you speak patois while Paul was explaining it. I actually understood you better the longer the video went as he explained your language more and more. That was awesome! Between you and him, you actually are teaching Jamaican patois to non-Jamaicans without even trying! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼
It is time Jamaican government hug up wi culture and see the good in it. When I tell people I am from Jamaica first thing they say is please speak Jamaican. Boss man is a good linguist.
Yaaaaasssssss...I like a 30-minute video!!! Do more of these please!! My grandmother hated her name, Cynthia, because people never pronounced the TH 🤣 Side Note: Every time I hear that some people in Jamaica think speaking patois is of "low class", it boggles my mind! Patois is one of the most captivating languages in the world...like literally this morning my mom called me to complain about something my sister did and instead of listening to her rant, I'm there like 😍😍😍
I just watched his video, which led to your reaction! Glad you cosigned it, because I was kind of suspicious of the source, but it sounded like it was logical. Never noticed how close patios sounds to Gullah!
At first I thought he was going to bash our culture cause mi did ready fi defend mi country but I was so surprised to see what the video actually turn out to be...nothing but facts
Mi knw some a dis caz mi learn it ina social studies and mi duh research tuh and a patois mi a type dis ina caz mi grow up ina waah place weh di ppl dem chat only patois
Yes, this is why I enjoy linguistics. A language is seen for its technical parts and not for its prestige. We have the same problems in guyana with our guyanese creole. I hope that we can follow the steps of jamaica and recognise our creole as a separate language and not as broken English.
MI cudah tell seh yuh name ETHAN just by looking at ETAN a suh we Jamaicans wuda pronounce it. And this is my first time watching you...TANK GOD MI BUCK UP PAN YUH
Coming from a past Jamaican teacher (not English) they need to start teaching Patois in school there. I did not know some of these things and now I wish I could learn about it more. Loved this reaction and you gained a new subscriber.
Joke is a cultural thing and what’s make Jamaicans laugh, not necessarily make other nationalities laugh. Me personally come from Israel - and I love the little phrases in patois! It’s unique and beautiful
The word "Bafan" has been around Jamaica for a long time. I heard it many times during my years growing up there, and it basically refers to someone who clumsy or inept at performing a particular task.
Lmfao bredda had the same reaction as you at 2:08 bbccccc i hear the voice couldnt believe it. Been a follow langfocus for a while still the man know him stuff jus never expect him fi nail this video suh hard well done
I just got recommended this video and I watched the entire thing and then I got recommended your video and I am bussin out laughing because I can understand what you're saying to a degree from living in Florida and listening to allot of UK music. 😆 You said some funny shit!
Ethan I give YOU 10 outta 10 on your praise for Paul. He is fluent in Japanese and Hebrew and who knows what else. Me, I only know Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Kreyol and vala'au Hawaiian small kine. Great show, brah.
A jamaican one's told me that the patois language were intentionally made so that the colonizers can't understand. ( the african slave weren't allowed to speak their native language either.) That's why the patois have a complete developed grammar.
They've studied (us) us being da diaspora long time yaad mon done know dis alrdy BLESSUP YASELF GENERAL excellent vid Bredren 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 🖤🖤❤💛💚🖤🖤❤❤💛💚🖤
First time I heard " mi wen a " was when I lived in Montego Bay. That's after 20 add years of my life living in St. Catherine. I think St.Elizabeth people speak like that also.
Yooooooooo! I'm from the Caribbean (not Jamaica) and I had almost identical reactions to yours! The same places you paused, I paused....like this dude really knows his stuff and the same historical info and words you didn't know, I didn't either. When he used words like "Bafan"...I've never heard and then he said "Im wen riid a buk"....I figured...I guess they say that but I'm not Jamaican, so sure why not. Too damn funny!
Yea....mi watch the video couple days ago ready fi bun out di man to, only fi feel shookt by his knowledge and reaserch. And the Kromanti thing is true I learnt about it in 6th form history.
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Weh mi JAMAICAN DEM DEH?! What do you guys think of Langfocus' research??
Him get 10 outta 10
Wow
Him duh him research...did wa hear a likkle patois still...nah lie lol
Lol from him?
@@Yaadman_Etan yea
I'm a trini but I love how y'all stick up for ur country
Thank u
WHERE MY TRINIS AT??
Tyrecia Kerr when we have fuckers like DJ Khalid around? Ofc
@@clinel bmt uh kno
@@clinel 🇹🇹
This dem fi a teach inna Jamaican Primary & Prep Schools and also Secondary schools. This subject would have been fun for students.
Definitely! 😊
True.... but when me deh a high school we couldnt chat patois at all.
They do, six form communication. All this information you get in your first week.
@@islandchic8762 rahtid, so yuh haffi reach all di way a sixth form before you can learn all a dis, smh lol
@@pongman40 yeah, but we really know this, it's just that to put it in a comprehensive format like that in English we may have problems simply because we have not thought about it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂Etan: "mi feel like mi a study fi CXC to Rhatid".
Lol. It shud be enuh!! Ms. Lou should a write the syllabus before she past!! We really lost a gem. Her birthday is coming up, September Queen!!
Real
Me sayyy 🤣
He’s a linguist. His channel is actually very informative
Langfocus is a channel that I follow and is one of my favourites. I find Paul, the presenter. an excellent researcher and effective communicator who treats all languages with professionalism and respect. In this feature on Jamaica he would no doubt have consulted the Jamaican experts in language and linguistics, most likely from the relevant faculty at the UWI and other such informed sources. It is hoped that more Jamaicans, especially those interested in languages, will now follow this very interesting and informative channel.
Mi rate this man fi real! Looks like he’s doing a big move that Jamaica needs to pick up in standardizing Jamaican Patois and make it an official language
Jada Simpson my problem with this is that Haitian Creole is recognized as a language but not patois ..
I've been looking for a complete course for years. There is none. I just watched the video that he is reviewing yesterday, which is why this one came up. This Caucasian dude's video is the closest thing to accurate that I've seen in a long time.
They should. It's a language with a very rich history.
It would be hard because there are so much different dialects and versions. Also patos isnt really a written language so when it comes to spelling, it's all just by ear which can sound and be interpreted differently by different people.
@@shaniasmith9999 what makes a language?
Whoever reading this hope you become Rich and succesful 🤞best regards from a small youtuber 🙇♂️
Thank you 😘
@@chayabruyning9307 sure
Wi fi mek di white man a honorary yaadman
@@damonwisdom983 lol
Mask Rick me jus subscribe Dutty Prince sen u gone a road. Bun up the white line
Well, this man has definitely done some research on Jamaica and how Patios came about. I learnt a lot.
Standardise Patois and make it THE official language of Jamaica. You have my vote 👍
Yeah, but don't mimic the English writing nonsense. Use an alphabet where each sound has its exact letter and make no exceptions: e.g. cat=kyat; can=kyan; cannot=kyán; I=mi; for=fi; many=naf; lot=ulíp; do it=dwít; dynamite=dendimayt respect=rispek; god=Ja; world=wód; etc. (Of course these examples may not be perfect, as I don't know Patois well.) When a world has multiple different pronunciations, allow it to be written multiple ways (sintin, sopm, etc).
@@atdzsny take the Spanish approach. I've always said that if English we're anything like Spanish, it'd be a much easier language to learn and understand. In spanish every vowel's pronunciation is set in stone. A=ah E=eh I=ee O=oh U=oo example: my name is = mai neim is. In fact, if you apply this in English, it become easier to read any Latin based language (Spanish/Italian/Portuguese/Romanian/Catalan/some but not all French too)
@@Profsr_Ecks OK, but "is"? Shouldn't that be "iz"? Vowels are alright in Hungarian, too. But don't overlook the consonants: use different/accented ones instead of combined ones and avoid redundant ones (e.g. make JA true=čú, not sg like chue; talk=čat; next=neks; sheep=šíp).
@@atdzsny I concur
People in St. Elizabeth use bafan all the time. Could mean clumsy or idiot. 🤣
Manchester too
and clarendon too
I'm from trelawny n they sometimes uses that word
Mom use it and dad too. Mom from st Bess and dad from from trelawny.
Clarendon too
Yes as a fellow Jamaican 🙋🏽♀️🇯🇲 I’ve heard the word “Bafan” used but from the older generation like my mother and grandmother. I doubt it’s still being used as commonly in Jamaica today though.
Paul is from Canada, he is now living in Japan with his wife. His channel Langfocus linguistically breaks down world language with nuf rispek
Mi Granny Did Ah Believe Seh She Did Ah Speak Di Queens English😂😂
Granma: " No Sah, Ah Nuh Patois Dis Mi Ah Speak Perfect Hingaalish"
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Yes mi hear d word baafan all the time cuz im left handed
No, bafan means that you can't do anything with your hands, meaning you're not handy!
@@pongman40 remember there isnt really a set defination for the term...it can b used loosely
@26:00 yes Patois is a language and its unfortunate how so many of us are so uneducated about native tongue. And worse of all we have the nerve to tell people its not a language. I studied Caribbean creole in university and this research is spot on. I just hope we can embrace our language for what it is.
Sure Jan
Langfocus is a linguist and gets to find common words in all the languages. He breaks down alot of languages on his channel. When I saw him do Patois, it blew me away. Im going to be sending both these videos to my family so they can enjoy it. And then I have to brush up on my Patois.
I'm glad Etan reviewed Langfocus. It's nice that a foreigner could do a good representation of Jamaican Patois. I'm not surprised at Langfocus' knowledge of Patois and its socio-cultural history and syntax because he is obviously a Canadian linguist. I just wish that I would see Black people represent themselves more often (not saying that I have any problem with Language Focus). Excellent job by both channels, Langfocus and Yaadman Etan.
St Elizabeth and St. Thomas, Hanover and Westmoreland ppl say the wen,ben deh n stuff like that. Had s classmate in utech that I nicknamed "em deh" because usually during presentations she says em deh instead of uhm or aah or and
Those words are from the west... eastern Jamaica don't use them
"em deh" hahahaaaaa wicked
It depends where in St. Elizabeth, I'm from St. Elizabeth and I don't speak like that
@@keliawysoki6912 just based on observation of a classmate over a period of 4yrs. This is not to say that every single person from these places speak that way. There are many other factors that affect a person's language or dialect.
They're used in Manchester as well. Makes sense.
Feel like I went to school on this one! My major was communication and I got teary-eyed when he connected the African origins of some of the words. Keep up the great work!!
He really did an amazing job. A lot of the things here I knew from growing up and learning in history but not that many foreigners know my history and I’m glad he did the research.
Nah lie, mans come and drape and box mi up.
Very informative for people of the Jamaican culture and especially for people who think they know Jamaican culture. “Bafan” mostly use in country parishes though. That’s when I heard it the most. I’m also glad that he pointed out the fact that there’s a variety of patois in Jamaica cause a lot of our people are oblivious to that fact.
I'm not jamaican, but my dad is from St. Thomas and growing up he used to play a lot of jamaican reggae. I was the only one of my peers to understand jamaican accents but I'd say i mostly just understand the middle section. I understood you very clearly but full on patios is a little more difficult. I loved this video though!
Wow!😪😭❤❤❤ I'm african. Jamaican really are our cousins. Africa loves you and miss you lots.
I'm Belizean with Jamaican family as well and the man did nail it. gotta give him props.
I'm black American. I work with two guys who were born in Jamaica. Sometimes I stand on the side and watch them have a conversation because I love the sound of the language.
I pick up some words and phrases from videos like this and use them when I'm around them. They say I should have been born in Jamaica. I tell them on the inside I am Jamaican.
Lol that's adorable ... I can teach you
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First of all... THE EDITING!YES!
😱😱 He actually showed knowledge and respect! Is he from this planet???😁
Well done on his efforts!!!!👏👏👏
"Bafan" is a very well known slang used to describe a clumsy person. Its surprising u neva hear it before. Jah know ethan, white bwoy know more than you paadie. LOL
Where u come frm?
St Thomas mi come frm kno bafan n paadie
Whoiii
A baselect mi chat but mi a English major... mi only chat prapa when mi a work or if Issa important matta
Lol same ting mi a seh! Mi deh a farrin an mi deevn a twang wid e people up ya
Yep, heard bafan all di time from older people; they use "wen'' in western Jamaica. By the way, I grew up in Mandeville, and after 6th form I went to work in Westmoreland, and that's when I realized how different we speak based on the parish we are from. As a youth, I always could spot a "Kingston" accent. But trust me, there are more accents in the various parishes.
My mother calls me “bafan” all the time... toooo much 😩🤦🏾♀️😭😭😭😭
He he he he he!!!!!! 😂
Shandon anno guud sinting dat baby....yuh fi change likklebit...lol
Nyah Elsworth 😂😂😂🤦🏾♀️
Hahahaha, oh nooooo
Mi madda used to call mi bafan if mi hol di knife wrong when she was teaching me to cook 😂 I always associate it with clumsiness or backwardness.
Yea as Jamaican he did such a good job, knew most of what he spoke because we did this in Threater Arts, Social Studies and Caribbean Studies. I'm just blown over that a foreigner got patios this good remind me of being in school. Living in Canada and want people to understand our language send them to this video. And I'm from Ocho Rios/Red Hills what wrong with Red Hills people wi not all rich enuh some a wi a suffarah. And hear bafan alot in st Ann when yuh mother a cuss yuh because do something wrong means handicap as well and him we use as well from conversation would always be able to tell if it's male or female
I have learned so much from his channel. Very informative. Much love to Jamaica.
" How you mean you doh subscribe yet? " Bro everytime I see your intro I legit say it with you without realising lol
BLESS UP ETANNN !!! Keep flaming bro , love from Saint Lucia !!
🇱🇨 🇱🇨 🇱🇨 🇱🇨 🇱🇨 🇱🇨
Blessings bro!!! 🙌🏾
Same
Jamaican linguists have been telling us this same stuff for decades. Kudos to LangFocus for their hard work, and it's just such a pity that it's taken THIS for some of us to listen
What you don't understand in Patois is really so. These deeper patois is used in the deep rural country. I learn so much from this as a Jamaican, because I am doing a patois channel
I'm from St.Vincent this was a lovely video the breakdowm of the language just amazing ... Vincentian dialect holds alot of similarities so i understood most of it 🤗🤗🤗
I’m so glad I grew up in the Bronx so I can understand what Etan is saying.
Dis a start fi mek mi wonder why Dey don't teach patios in school.
Fo real, de big man dem look down on patwa
! exactly, Long time dem a shame wi!
@@theo150290 If you’re talking about in America it’s kinda complex with different words that have the same meaning some words can be short for a series of words like yuh get weh mi a seh and zimi which mean is the same thing.
@@tosauxy7207 I was referring to the upper class in Jamaica, well most of them not all, as they see it as the language of the uneducated at times where it's more apart of the Jamaican culture, and if we were taught more about it in schools I think we would appreciate more of our history and culture
@@theo150290 yeah ight
So as a Jamaican who left at 4 years old, I can understand most words in patois but not all of them. I try to speak it but I sound like a robot. I just stick to speaking English
Yes bafan
Has been used by my granny or older jamaican
Yeh man. Bafan = Bafoon.
@@jabbajawz there is a difference between fafan and bafoon though... bafan means that you are clumsy... bafoon means that you're an idiot or you act like a clown
@@jabbajawz That's not the genesis bro. Bafan comes from Akan speaking peoples. Usually meant a child that has some kind of physical retardation. Over time the meaning expanded.
Ben is used in western Jamaica.. St Elizabeth, mobay etc
@@helloimrudz2998 true...the first time I heard it was when I went to Negril...
What Paul is showing us is that a little research can go a long way.
Jamaican Patois is very very similar to the cocoy that we speak in some parts of Dominica so it's relatively easy for me to understand patois
Yo yaad man is me the whole time watching this video I swear this the best Jamaican video I’ve come across hands down 🙌🏽 .
This is really the best overview of Jamaican language for real.
I watched the video two days ago 10/10 he gave me info i didnt even know. A+
Jvggernaut Music I fully agree
I'm going to be honest....I didn't know half of this information especially about Maroons and I'm Jamaican
Your not the only one..... Most of us who watch this feel the same way.....
"The old heads (Kromanti) created the language for their Jamaican born descendants". I learned that from my grandfather. Jamaica comeback to ƆNYAME ME FƐFƐ JAMAIKAN ABUSIA
We not sitting at the elders feet anymore,
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@@p9mg erm hmm need to show wah yuh seh to mi fiance he is Ghanaian otherwise please translate
It's really rejoicing to see someone so passionately be pleased in the way their culture is depicted. Kinda made me proud of Langfocus. Pretty interesting to watch.
I would like to see you compare Nigerian Pidgin to Jamaican creole coz I see a lot of similarities. Love your videos by the way ❤️ ~ from your African sister
I said the same thing on a panel of pan-Africans, and a Nigerian who didn't know about Jamaicans thought I was just an ignorant American. She didn't even know I was complimenting both of them.
Alia Yussuf I speak Nigerian Pidgin and I hear it
Yep. I understand about 70-80% of patois if someone speaks slowly. My theory is that as Caribbeans (esp Jamaicans) are West Africans, they processed English in a similar fashion to their continental cousins. Ebonics also has a lot of structural similarities to West African Pidgin English.
He really should make that video! Many Jamaican creole words derived from Nigerian Pidgin and Many Nigerian languages. My fiancé was shocked I understood Nigerian Pidgin when we first started dating. I always told him it reminded me so much of Jamaican Patois.
Black Heart Yeah I totally agree with you and besides there is absolutely nothing wrong with similarities. As a matter of fact the two countries share ancestors. I guess some people are just too nationalist.
"Bafan" was a word commonly heard in the seventies. I was a little surprised when you said that you have never heard that word before. I've noticed that patois sounds a little differently than when I was growing up especially in Kingston not so much in the country.
Give this man a distinction please and thanks. Communication Studies 101. Mesolect, basilect and acrolect. Just give him an Order of Jamaica!
I'm a Jamaican and I've never heard the word bafan inna mi life mi affi guh ask mi mada if she know dah word yah bafan lol😂
But overall mi learn alot from this video an dah Breda yah did him research and mi a tell yuh seh him mek patois look easy fi learn mi nah lie big up yourself yute👍
Means clumsy
Thanks but he already said the meaning of the word in the video
Thanks for adding your commentary and thoughts in response to this video! It's good to hear that the original video was accurate and reflected the dialect and history well!
Bredda a run one blouse and skirt Communication Studies lesson tpc
From the first chart come up man
Same thing mi a say.
I think this should be taught in primary and secondary institutions here in Jamaica as this is a lot of Knowledge. As a matter of fact, I believe this video should be shown to these kids as well so they have an idea of how their language came into play. Thanks, yaadman Etan. I learnt a lot from this.
His research was really detailed he even used examples from the central part the island and also talked about the root of modern-day patois which Karmante
🤣😂 I got a real kick out of listening to you use the words acrolect, mesolect and bassolect. You seemed to really like those words. ☺️ I do not know if he said so but they mean high speech, middle speech, and low speech in Greek. I loved the video. It was really cool to hear you speak patois while Paul was explaining it. I actually understood you better the longer the video went as he explained your language more and more. That was awesome! Between you and him, you actually are teaching Jamaican patois to non-Jamaicans without even trying! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼
He did a very good job of explaining our language. I have never heard Patois explained that way before! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇵🇯🇵
Cyah chat n nobody nuh understand we again him teach them everything 😂😂 imagine outta port ppl a study hard yah now 😂😂
Use advanced cryptography or better yet trust foreigners. A secret language is something only kids believe in in my country.
‘Him when a read a book” or “ him Ben a read a book” is deep rural patois from several parishes ..and “ him deh read a book “ is Mobay patois
It is time Jamaican government hug up wi culture and see the good in it. When I tell people I am from Jamaica first thing they say is please speak Jamaican. Boss man is a good linguist.
We thought it was really well done!! The fact that they got a what sounds like a "real Jamaican" to talk in the video put the icing on the cake!!
Yaaaaasssssss...I like a 30-minute video!!! Do more of these please!!
My grandmother hated her name, Cynthia, because people never pronounced the TH 🤣
Side Note: Every time I hear that some people in Jamaica think speaking patois is of "low class", it boggles my mind! Patois is one of the most captivating languages in the world...like literally this morning my mom called me to complain about something my sister did and instead of listening to her rant, I'm there like 😍😍😍
Lol I can completely relate!
I just watched his video, which led to your reaction!
Glad you cosigned it, because I was kind of suspicious of the source, but it sounded like it was logical.
Never noticed how close patios sounds to Gullah!
At first I thought he was going to bash our culture cause mi did ready fi defend mi country but I was so surprised to see what the video actually turn out to be...nothing but facts
Mi knw some a dis caz mi learn it ina social studies and mi duh research tuh and a patois mi a type dis ina caz mi grow up ina waah place weh di ppl dem chat only patois
Yes, this is why I enjoy linguistics. A language is seen for its technical parts and not for its prestige. We have the same problems in guyana with our guyanese creole. I hope that we can follow the steps of jamaica and recognise our creole as a separate language and not as broken English.
Lol I use bafan a lot. I'm a new subscriber and I love your videos
This was well done and well researched man did his job this was very good 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Clarendonian here...bafan ah regular word fi country peeple...example: gyal mek yuh ah galang lakka bafan soh?
Is like the Clarendon version of bafoon ??
@@gabryellesmalling3315 same soh!
We use bafhan in a trelawny too but it mean more like handicapped than bafoon
L D just about to say this I’ve heard bafan before lol
🤣🤣🤣 yes its true my granny from country and she says bafan
I really liked about 40% of this video.
Which is what I understood...
16:54 Mi ongl eva hear wen use so ina St. Mary and Westmoreland. And yes man mi use bafan wuleep
"wuleep" like "nuff" cum from inglish "whole heap" rite? meanin "a lot"
MI cudah tell seh yuh name ETHAN just by looking at ETAN a suh we Jamaicans wuda pronounce it. And this is my first time watching you...TANK GOD MI BUCK UP PAN YUH
I hear bafan all the time am from Hanover. I think it's popular in the western side of the island.
Yea it is.
Coming from a past Jamaican teacher (not English) they need to start teaching Patois in school there. I did not know some of these things and now I wish I could learn about it more. Loved this reaction and you gained a new subscriber.
jokes don't translate the same in standard English. nuff jokes cah carey over
right!!!!!
Facts
Facts
Justin Dorman true
Joke is a cultural thing and what’s make Jamaicans laugh, not necessarily make other nationalities laugh. Me personally come from Israel - and I love the little phrases in patois! It’s unique and beautiful
The word "Bafan" has been around Jamaica for a long time. I heard it many times during my years growing up there, and it basically refers to someone who clumsy or inept at performing a particular task.
17:20 is where we find out Ethan has never been to St.Elizabeth.
Gang gang... JA in the building. ..
High school exam a gwaan yah so basilect mesolect and acrolect 🙄😳
The man is language expert. I am subscribe to his channel and I do enjoy his content.
Lmfao bredda had the same reaction as you at 2:08 bbccccc i hear the voice couldnt believe it. Been a follow langfocus for a while still the man know him stuff jus never expect him fi nail this video suh hard well done
I just got recommended this video and I watched the entire thing and then I got recommended your video and I am bussin out laughing because I can understand what you're saying to a degree from living in Florida and listening to allot of UK music. 😆 You said some funny shit!
Yo im from Grenada. I understand rel good. Only because ours arent far from allu.
I actually enjoyed this video. I learned a lot since alot of my friends come from the islands.
I was just waiting to hear if he says that there is no standard way to spell patois words, the man video legit!
A dat in a seh dawg! Man legit yf!
Ethan I give YOU 10 outta 10 on your praise for Paul. He is fluent in Japanese and Hebrew and who knows what else. Me, I only know Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Kreyol and vala'au Hawaiian small kine. Great show, brah.
Also with the "ben" it can be ''de" or "den" lol. Depends on how I'm feeling
i am from Congo Brazzaville Africa
i started learn jamaican english 1 year ago, this vidéo really help
What prompted you to pick up patois?
A jamaican one's told me that the patois language were intentionally made so that the colonizers can't understand. ( the african slave weren't allowed to speak their native language either.) That's why the patois have a complete developed grammar.
Definitely ier bafan a grown-up Inna Westmorland. Thats a definite throwback.
Mi deven start watch yet an mi like it...know mi aguh laugh likkle...Jah know mi neva know some a dis
I remember watching this video a while back and being very impressed.
Ben and wen suppose to use a mobay or St Elizabeth Dem place deh. Correct me if me wrong oh
You right. He just needs to pronounce it as “beh-ing”
“ Ben “ is also used in Manchester
*Wen* and *Ben* is from *Mocho* in *Clarendon* and surrounding areas of *Smithville, Bedford Kraal, Thompson Town, and Chapelton* .......🇯🇲🤔
They've studied (us) us being da diaspora long time yaad mon done know dis alrdy BLESSUP YASELF GENERAL excellent vid Bredren 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
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First time I heard " mi wen a " was when I lived in Montego Bay. That's after 20 add years of my life living in St. Catherine. I think St.Elizabeth people speak like that also.
Yow ethan, how yuh neva hear bafan yet bro? Big up still!!!
Yooooooooo! I'm from the Caribbean (not Jamaica) and I had almost identical reactions to yours! The same places you paused, I paused....like this dude really knows his stuff and the same historical info and words you didn't know, I didn't either. When he used words like "Bafan"...I've never heard and then he said "Im wen riid a buk"....I figured...I guess they say that but I'm not Jamaican, so sure why not. Too damn funny!
Backside to rahhtedddd, this man a do him research 😭😭
Yea....mi watch the video couple days ago ready fi bun out di man to, only fi feel shookt by his knowledge and reaserch. And the Kromanti thing is true I learnt about it in 6th form history.
Jillian Nathan that was my feelings before I watched the video
I've heard the word bafan all the time. Some people say buffoon too lol, poppy show, quashie (real country ppl say dis 1).