So far one of the best videos I've watched. Good information. I'm 76 and up on my roof that I've determined needs to have the old underlayment replaced so I've removed and stacked a quarter of one end of my house, (the "S" tile), where water has gotten in. I'm having a lot of trouble finding the right underlayment because no one says their product is for tile. Tile roof is about 25 years old, and last winter was the last year without replacing leaking areas. I can't afford 20K to have it done to my 2K sq ft house. Inching my way through all the information I need to not make a mess. Information about treated battons, (sp?) was new to me. Treated with what, or can you buy them treated? Now I see I need to remove the top ridge first and find a place to stack the tile. Top ridge has a rubber substance under the tile that has failed. Don't know what it is called.
Came here to see how tile roofs are put together, since our parents are building in Arizona. Very well done. Nice touch with the “we got you covered” at the end.
I’ve never understood the logic behind placing the battens directly over the underlayment without any sort of spacers in the bottom. How would any water that finds itself underneath the tiles be able to drain out properly? I understand that there’s several gaps in between each batten, but it seems to me that water would still sit behind those small pieces and eventually seep in through the batten nail holes.
I thought of that for my own project. My battens, 25 years old, are rotten. Could put a run of sealant on the bottom of each batten , or just put a run on the upper edge ,but that will be expensive .
Thank you soooooooooo mush for this video, I just pay $8 for my patio roof and after your video, I found out , my workers never nail tile ! I'm in shock !!! Teach us MORE. !!! Elena
I have 12 years experience and the cuts on valley metal shoul be open 3 inch each side of midle valley why? Becouse opened the dirt leaves of trees dont stack on valley i repaired many leaks for that
Absolutely, without the gap,leaves and twigs, tennis balls, dead bird and dirt will clog that avenue and won’t self clean with rain runoff down the valley
Same thing in Romania. I do Roofs from 2007 and for the valley I leave some oppen space, around 8-10 cm on each side, free for drainage (leaves, dirt, etc).
From what ive seen or at least from my experience everyone uses or at least weve always used w valley and wall tray we make it our selves as well so i wouldnt go saying your the only one and were in dallas tx. but still good work glad to see theres other people out there who know what theyre doing as im sure youve had to fix roofs too that were just all wrong
Roofing felt for tile has to be typeD 226Type II same for metal. Completely different from standard felt. You can get that valley at any roofing supplier where tile is widely used. All of these flashings are available, The headwall does have a 120 degree angle most use 90 and it never lays down. Use lathe vertically under bats roof will last much longer. p.s use 2x4 drip you will have better luck with it " Pancake" it between 2 layers. All tile concrete and clay are not 100% watertight.
So much different than Australia. It would virtually take to learn the trade from new , to tile here . It looks a so much slower process. That said , any tilers moving from Australia to the US , be prepared to do everything a lot lot different
looks pro....im a shingle installer who doent do tile and i was just wondering what is stopping water when it hits ur valley flashing or spasher as u call it from comming back and going under ur tiles on the same side?
High Mr. Rodriguez, that was a great video. I just sent your company a email with my inspection estimate. I can really use your help on the roof situation. This is Javier. Thank you in advance.
Those valleys MUST be cut back at least 2” from the middle of that valley flashing. Why? Because dirt leaves and debris will quickly fill up the valley then water backs up and works it’s way under the underlayment. I had this happen on my home and a number of other homes in my neighborhood suffered the same fate. We are in San Diego county with mild climate. I can only imagine the magnified impact if you had freeze and thaw thrown into the equation. Cut back those valleys guys!
Absolutely corect. I'm no roofer, but I've been working on my 35 year old concrete tile roof and even with 2-3 inch cut back on each side of the valleys, there was debris collected all along them, essentially forming dams that direct water horizontally underneath the tiles and pushing some of the debris against the upside of the battens, thereby causing deterioration of the underlying roofing paper. Definitely have to put valley clean out on my maintenance list...
I’m pretty sure u didn’t invent that valley lol js...If you’re a roofer (tile guy) then u should be able to install the tile perfectly straight without throwing chalk lines every 8 ft . I throw pieces that are 15-17 squares and come out straight
I have a quick question. I'm replacing my old asphalt roof with Boral concrete tiles. The contractor said the tile I selected would take 12-16 weeks, but it may take less. The only ones he could have gotten quickly are the charcoal, espresso, and slate blends. I guess he's not wrong because those are the colors I usually see when people are changing their asphalt or clay roofs to concrete. I decided on the butterscotch. Does it normally take that long for tiles to come in? Plus he wants 25 percent down which is $5100. Why does he need so much when he really can't start a job until 3 months. Or is that normal? Of course, when you go on the internet; you see where people put nothing down until the materials arrive. I live in Miami, and I don't know anyone that would do that.
At least in Cali a contractor can only charge $1000 or 10% whichever is less upon execution of a contract that is called a clean cut. I am sure Florida is the same. Unless he has a special bond he is limited to the amount of a deposit. Sounds like a crook.
work in europe myself just curious why the treated lath strips,never seen it here same with ice and water,why?u look at tile roofs 50-100yrs old they didnt use treated lath and ice and water,i think a tile roof done right doesnt even need an underlayment(doesnt mean u shouldnt do it)kinda like a slate roof in a way,ive seen old slate roofs where they didnt use anything, done right it shouldnt leak.How long is this tile supposed to last?
Here in the Southwest USA..we have termites. They will eat any exposed wood that is not treated. That is why the wood must be treated. You probably ask it the rest of the house is treated??? No, only the sill that comes in contact with the concrete (for termites also). They could probably use Redwood or Cedar wood...but it would cost a little more.
99scholz Here in the USA roofers do not know how to get a tile roof water tight and therefore they do need always a under roof, like ice and water shield.
In EU you will find the vertical battens as well (it,s a EU norm) but if the roof is not ventilated (not an attic jus a simple plain Roof) no need for vertical battens.
I definitely recommend using ice & watershield on tile or any sloped roof! Remember, whether you have a tile roof, metal roof or asphalt shingle roof, if water gets underneath it and it always does at some point (even if the roof was installed right), it will leak. Felt wrinkles and sometimes small tears occur during installation by foot traffic that may not be seen and/or replaced. Using synthetic underlayment and even water & ice shield is definitely better than not using it! I've done too many repairs on tile roofs lately by builders that only use regular felt. What if the tile cracks or slips out of place from shifting of the building? Better to pay a little more up front to waterproof, than pay an arm and a leg later doing an expensive tile repair.
Again sadly, horizontal straps vs vertical and then a nice 1x4 like in Canada Codes. Also your bird stop has its weep holes restricted by that damn 2"x2" drip edge- it should be lower.
Cmon you know your suppose to leave the Valleys open what if debris clog up the valley and redirect the water inwards besides that you can use 40 pound paper but double paper
are the gaps in the batten to allow water to pas down the roof ? and where are your striker battens, so many wrong points going on here but what do i know i have only been tiling for 35 years.
Om from Sweden. I've been watching a lot of roofing videos on YT. No Americans seems to use counter battens, I can't understanding why not? To met their underdecking has to be cluttered with debris and they don't seems to accomodation for water run of as we do (at least in Scandinavia) What am I missing?
Roofs in america are shocking, so many vids where sticky tape and tin flashing is gospel, i hear ya with the counter batten alot of slipped tiles to come in the future for these guys due to water damage
Jan Winkel I am with you. They actually think this is a good roof. Can you believe it?This building would be condemned in Germany. Leaking all over the place.
I am a roofer you explain all god but on tile and slate roofs you have to use copper flashings and copper nails other ways you roof don't last longer because you flashigs get bad on 15 -20 years and copper last for 80-100 year
@@Garciasroofing Yah Eric G. is my favorite. I am going to tile my roof for the first time by myself. I have searched RUclips for days and this guy teaches the most. He may not be perfect but I will be able to tile my roof with no experience thanks to Eric.
you wont get a scaffold thats for sure, hope your guys are heavily insured as without a scaffold the insurance becomes void in the uk. hse all the way,
This guy lies way to much, everybody uses w valley. The "custom water trough" this guy says only they do is used everywhere. He sounds like he doesn't really know what he's talking about.
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Well done 👍 a young man , I’m very impressed with your roofing tiles,
Keep up your good work ✌️
So far one of the best videos I've watched. Good information. I'm 76 and up on my roof that I've determined needs to have the old underlayment replaced so I've removed and stacked a quarter of one end of my house, (the "S" tile), where water has gotten in. I'm having a lot of trouble finding the right underlayment because no one says their product is for tile. Tile roof is about 25 years old, and last winter was the last year without replacing leaking areas. I can't afford 20K to have it done to my 2K sq ft house. Inching my way through all the information I need to not make a mess. Information about treated battons, (sp?) was new to me. Treated with what, or can you buy them treated? Now I see I need to remove the top ridge first and find a place to stack the tile. Top ridge has a rubber substance under the tile that has failed. Don't know what it is called.
Came here to see how tile roofs are put together, since our parents are building in Arizona. Very well done. Nice touch with the “we got you covered” at the end.
Great video
Guys...I live in AZ where in the monsoon season we have horizontal rain at times. I would glady have a 4" overlap over the 3"
I’ve never understood the logic behind placing the battens directly over the underlayment without any sort of spacers in the bottom. How would any water that finds itself underneath the tiles be able to drain out properly? I understand that there’s several gaps in between each batten, but it seems to me that water would still sit behind those small pieces and eventually seep in through the batten nail holes.
I thought of that for my own project. My battens, 25 years old, are rotten. Could put a run of sealant on the bottom of each batten , or just put a run on the upper edge ,but that will be expensive .
Great video. Thank you!
Well done, really professional
muy buen video gracias
Beautiful roof systems.
Thank you soooooooooo mush for this video, I just pay $8 for my patio roof and after your video, I found out , my workers never nail tile ! I'm in shock !!! Teach us MORE. !!!
Elena
You paid eight dollars? No wonder they didn't nail it. You get what you pay for!!!!!!!
Great video! I learned a lot. Now I can discuss this with the local roofers. I wish you were here in Las Vegas, NV. Thanks a lot.
hpylori7 Haha, I don’t want a guy that calls tiles “shingles” here in Vegas!
Excellent video! Thanks for making it.
I have 12 years experience and the cuts on valley metal shoul be open 3 inch each side of midle valley why?
Becouse opened the dirt leaves of trees dont stack on valley i repaired many leaks for that
roberrobertin87 yes and no
Absolutely, without the gap,leaves and twigs, tennis balls, dead bird and dirt will clog that avenue and won’t self clean with rain runoff down the valley
Same thing in Romania.
I do Roofs from 2007 and for the valley I leave some oppen space, around 8-10 cm on each side, free for drainage (leaves, dirt, etc).
This was a great video. My question is how was that roof framed and decked? What did you have to use to support that weight?
From what ive seen or at least from my experience everyone uses or at least weve always used w valley and wall tray we make it our selves as well so i wouldnt go saying your the only one and were in dallas tx. but still good work glad to see theres other people out there who know what theyre doing as im sure youve had to fix roofs too that were just all wrong
Roofing felt for tile has to be typeD 226Type II same for metal. Completely different from standard felt. You can get that valley at any roofing supplier where tile is widely used. All of these flashings are available, The headwall does have a 120 degree angle most use 90 and it never lays down. Use lathe vertically under bats roof will last much longer. p.s use 2x4 drip you will have better luck with it " Pancake" it between 2 layers. All tile concrete and clay are not 100% watertight.
So much different than Australia. It would virtually take to learn the trade from new , to tile here . It looks a so much slower process. That said , any tilers moving from Australia to the US , be prepared to do everything a lot lot different
@00:03:09 it talks about a "Drip Edge".
looks pro....im a shingle installer who doent do tile and i was just wondering what is stopping water when it hits ur valley flashing or spasher as u call it from comming back and going under ur tiles on the same side?
High Mr. Rodriguez, that was a great video. I just sent your company a email with my inspection estimate. I can really use your help on the roof situation. This is Javier. Thank you in advance.
Those valleys MUST be cut back at least 2” from the middle of that valley flashing.
Why?
Because dirt leaves and debris will quickly fill up the valley then water backs up and works it’s way under the underlayment.
I had this happen on my home and a number of other homes in my neighborhood suffered the same fate.
We are in San Diego county with mild climate. I can only imagine the magnified impact if you had freeze and thaw thrown into the equation.
Cut back those valleys guys!
Absolutely corect. I'm no roofer, but I've been working on my 35 year old concrete tile roof and even with 2-3 inch cut back on each side of the valleys, there was debris collected all along them, essentially forming dams that direct water horizontally underneath the tiles and pushing some of the debris against the upside of the battens, thereby causing deterioration of the underlying roofing paper. Definitely have to put valley clean out on my maintenance list...
nice! what about hips?
I would. I have 10 years experience laying tile.
where are you located?
I’m pretty sure u didn’t invent that valley lol js...If you’re a roofer (tile guy) then u should be able to install the tile perfectly straight without throwing chalk lines every 8 ft . I throw pieces that are 15-17 squares and come out straight
I have a quick question. I'm replacing my old asphalt roof with Boral concrete tiles. The contractor said the tile I selected would take 12-16 weeks, but it may take less. The only ones he could have gotten quickly are the charcoal, espresso, and slate blends. I guess he's not wrong because those are the colors I usually see when people are changing their asphalt or clay roofs to concrete. I decided on the butterscotch. Does it normally take that long for tiles to come in? Plus he wants 25 percent down which is $5100. Why does he need so much when he really can't start a job until 3 months. Or is that normal? Of course, when you go on the internet; you see where people put nothing down until the materials arrive. I live in Miami, and I don't know anyone that would do that.
At least in Cali a contractor can only charge $1000 or 10% whichever is less upon execution of a contract that is called a clean cut. I am sure Florida is the same. Unless he has a special bond he is limited to the amount of a deposit. Sounds like a crook.
Do you install your tiles horizontally in rows or vertically stacked?
@ Oldbeff I do slate and tile roofing on cincinnati ohio
work in europe myself just curious why the treated lath strips,never seen it here same with ice and water,why?u look at tile roofs 50-100yrs old they didnt use treated lath and ice and water,i think a tile roof done right doesnt even need an underlayment(doesnt mean u shouldnt do it)kinda like a slate roof in a way,ive seen old slate roofs where they didnt use anything, done right it shouldnt leak.How long is this tile supposed to last?
Here in the Southwest USA..we have termites. They will eat any exposed wood that is not treated. That is why the wood must be treated. You probably ask it the rest of the house is treated??? No, only the sill that comes in contact with the concrete (for termites also). They could probably use Redwood or Cedar wood...but it would cost a little more.
99scholz Here in the USA roofers do not know how to get a tile roof water tight and therefore they do need always a under roof, like ice and water shield.
counter battens ?
He means water slats
In EU you will find the vertical battens as well (it,s a EU norm) but if the roof is not ventilated (not an attic jus a simple plain Roof) no need for vertical battens.
Yupp , Thas how it's done ! ice n water shield rules ! I Prefer Decra tho , 160
lbs vs. 800 lbs per sq!!!!
No radiant barrier installed.
How much would it cost to install tile roof on a 1600 sf house?
I definitely recommend using ice & watershield on tile or any sloped roof! Remember, whether you have a tile roof, metal roof or asphalt shingle roof, if water gets underneath it and it always does at some point (even if the roof was installed right), it will leak. Felt wrinkles and sometimes small tears occur during installation by foot traffic that may not be seen and/or replaced. Using synthetic underlayment and even water & ice shield is definitely better than not using it! I've done too many repairs on tile roofs lately by builders that only use regular felt. What if the tile cracks or slips out of place from shifting of the building? Better to pay a little more up front to waterproof, than pay an arm and a leg later doing an expensive tile repair.
you invented the W valley? lol
If you put the tiles on properly why do you need a roof under a roof??
I live in New Zealand
(all blacks)....100mm lap on you tiles is plenty 😉....
Because the tiles are water shedding not water propf
How much would it cost to install roof tile on a 500 sqft house?
With material here on southwest Texas around 4000-5000
Again sadly, horizontal straps vs vertical and then a nice 1x4 like in Canada Codes. Also your bird stop has its weep holes restricted by that damn 2"x2" drip edge- it should be lower.
Cmon you know your suppose to leave the Valleys open what if debris clog up the valley and redirect the water inwards besides that you can use 40 pound paper but double paper
@ @ Oldbiff I do slate and tile roofing on cincinnati ohio
You said that twice what is your point?
good job sir
health and safety would love this video
are the gaps in the batten to allow water to pas down the roof ? and where are your striker battens,
so many wrong points going on here but what do i know i have only been tiling for 35 years.
Om from Sweden. I've been watching a lot of roofing videos on YT. No Americans seems to use counter battens, I can't understanding why not? To met their underdecking has to be cluttered with debris and they don't seems to accomodation for water run of as we do (at least in Scandinavia) What am I missing?
you full off it!!
you're nice looking and very honest!
You sound desperate.
This isn’t informing people on how to roof its just a sales video on what he sells and lies way too much !!!
you would NOT get a permit for this anywhere in Europe
Europe is a different world baby lol
Un mundo diferente
Why?
no counter battens lol, these american roofers are living in the 16th century lmao,
Roofs in america are shocking, so many vids where sticky tape and tin flashing is gospel, i hear ya with the counter batten alot of slipped tiles to come in the future for these guys due to water damage
Im guessing you designed and invented everything for the roof lol
He's a salesman. In Texas every salesman uses hyperbole to make you feel they invented oxygen! LOL.
I am glad someone said it for me😂
Let me guess your a hater
iam so lucky to be a german roofer. i get ill when i see this roof :D
Jan Winkel I am with you. They actually think this is a good roof. Can you believe it?This building would be condemned in Germany. Leaking all over the place.
Apparently everyone in this comment section is expert lol
We can tell that the guy who made this video isn't. What is your point? Any real professional can call bs when they see it.
I am a roofer you explain all god but on tile and slate roofs you have to use copper flashings and copper nails other ways you roof don't last longer because you flashigs get bad on 15 -20 years and copper last for 80-100 year
So basically the tiles are just there for visuals, the pitch is far to shallow for those tiles, so water will always be getting behind them.Crap job.
come on man , he did a good job, just missed some details. not bad tho.except for the self stick underlayment.
@@Garciasroofing Yah Eric G. is my favorite. I am going to tile my roof for the first time by myself. I have searched RUclips for days and this guy teaches the most. He may not be perfect but I will be able to tile my roof with no experience thanks to Eric.
you wont get a scaffold thats for sure, hope your guys are heavily insured as without a scaffold the insurance becomes void in the uk.
hse all the way,
You don`t look Mexican.
This guy lies way to much, everybody uses w valley. The "custom water trough" this guy says only they do is used everywhere. He sounds like he doesn't really know what he's talking about.
Needs to work on his speaking skills