The "LeBron James Of lncels" ABANDONS The lncel Community (they are mad)

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  • @danielmikula1375
    @danielmikula1375 Год назад +422

    Complaining about someone leaving the incel community because they had sex implies that it's voluntary celibacy, doesn't it? They're implying he should have turned her down.

    • @MrElionor
      @MrElionor Год назад +30

      It means them not getting any is not an essentialist quality of theirs

    • @occamraiser
      @occamraiser Год назад +53

      interesting slant. Yes indeed - accusing someone of voluntarily leaving the cult is explicitly admitting that they are in the cult voluntarily - not involuntarily like their little conspiracy fantasy requires.

    • @MsScarletwings
      @MsScarletwings Год назад +11

      They do actually already hate “vol-cels”

    • @hellaeric10
      @hellaeric10 Год назад +7

      Exactly. What was he supposed to do? Turn the sex down?

    • @sprig5173
      @sprig5173 Год назад +3

      Exactly what I was thinking. It's not that he was voluntarily cel and then changed.

  • @eman22017
    @eman22017 Год назад +1323

    “LeBron James of incels” is such a wild title. Does this mean he’s the most talented incel of all time? I’m so confused.

    • @garywebb2432
      @garywebb2432 Год назад +58

      hey....mj existed

    • @reliablereindeer
      @reliablereindeer Год назад +12

      It means he lies a lot

    • @buckyhurdle4776
      @buckyhurdle4776 Год назад +96

      The most powerful virgin

    • @jamirbingham4101
      @jamirbingham4101 Год назад +38

      @@garywebb2432 lol LBJ over MJ anyday but like them both lol

    • @Helpfuldoge
      @Helpfuldoge Год назад +40

      @@jamirbingham4101 that is a crazy opinion MJ was the best to ever do it

  • @radiationshepherd
    @radiationshepherd Год назад +581

    We've got guys identifying as incels at like 14 it's a big issue how early boys feel pressure to have sex and if they don't feel they can get out of this group after being sucked into it in the internet

    • @ANationalguy
      @ANationalguy Год назад +64

      They’re just mad because one girl didn’t like them and they think it’s hopeless for them now. Obviously 14 year old guys don’t take rejection very well as they are14 and there’s a bunch of pathetic adult men acting like this so they instantly believe oh my God it’s over for me! Then they turn into the guys were like women only want six figures six packs and 6 feet, To Cope about why they’re not in a relationship yet when they’re literally just 14
      I think it’s less about pressure and more about being young and dumb And not having any positive influences because they keep seeing adult men doing this

    • @kstar1489
      @kstar1489 Год назад +47

      That’s incredibly scary that someone that young falls into this. People that young should never feel pressure to date or have sex. Absolutely insane.

    • @kstar1489
      @kstar1489 Год назад +7

      @@ANationalguy they are feeling pressure tho, even if self induced

    • @ANationalguy
      @ANationalguy Год назад +13

      @trollnerd I could understand that I suppose there is a lot of us stigma around sex. It’s almost like a status point.

    • @Scooter_Alice
      @Scooter_Alice Год назад +12

      ​​@@justheretocommentokdontwan685hat's how I learned to think about it. I don't think it's gonna be magical or anything; I see sex more as a bucket list thing. I'd like to have it, but I won't be depressed if I die a virgin

  • @obsequiarch7271
    @obsequiarch7271 Год назад +829

    It still blows my mind that there's a community centered around getting turned down so hard you decide "I think I'll make this my life. That'll show em."

    • @VooshSpokesman
      @VooshSpokesman Год назад +69

      One of us! One of us! One of us! ×drags the poor sod to the hell caves of reddit×

    • @xMawkKnightx
      @xMawkKnightx Год назад +78

      The "that'll show them" part is especially mind blowing. They treat the movement as some big gotcha.

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld Год назад +1

      They mistrust and hate women so much they decided to name it and make insular groups around it so they can all groom each other into further hating women and mistrusting them. Insanity.

    • @lukeolson5177
      @lukeolson5177 Год назад +34

      It's a standard coping mechanism like when someone gets picked last for the pickup basketball game and then that person says they don't even like basketball anyway lol

    • @MusicMissionary
      @MusicMissionary Год назад +12

      ​@@xMawkKnightx If you're not allowed to change it's the opposite of a "movement."

  • @edwinvoncarstein
    @edwinvoncarstein Год назад +136

    How can they be mad about a guy getting laid when their community name literally stands for "INVOLUNTARY celibate".

    • @occamraiser
      @occamraiser Год назад +6

      Absolutely!

    • @Queef_Storm
      @Queef_Storm Год назад +5

      Because he could have turned the girl down, I guess. Technically he could have chosen to remain incel. Or at least cel.

    • @patchwurk6652
      @patchwurk6652 Год назад

      @@Queef_Storm But if you're Turning Down the pussy, you're not Involuntarily Celibate.
      You Chose to be celibate.

    • @skateboardious
      @skateboardious Год назад +14

      ​@@Queef_Storm that would be pretty Volcel of them

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      I'm incel

  • @Spongebrain97
    @Spongebrain97 Год назад +743

    It's so weird to me how those people actually adopted the phrase incel and identify together as a community. Like who wants to be an angry misogynistic virgin and wear it like a badge of honor lmao?

    • @vertigo4236
      @vertigo4236 Год назад +55

      Victim complex is real...

    • @jamesbonn2394
      @jamesbonn2394 Год назад +22

      @Florentino Perez funny coming from the only incel trollbot for these comments

    • @dylanlemon8811
      @dylanlemon8811 Год назад +13

      Because they’re depressed and it’s anonymous

    • @stannyb3346
      @stannyb3346 Год назад +76

      People are desperate for a sense of community and will gravitate to any group that offers that even if it's damaging to themselves..

    • @VooshSpokesman
      @VooshSpokesman Год назад +8

      Conservatives?

  • @Zack-vi7is
    @Zack-vi7is Год назад +64

    I love the whole "wow you had sex when someone was willing to have sex with you?!?" Type of incel. Did they forget that part of being incel is "involuntary"? As in they're not supposed to be celibate by choice? If you're specifically avoiding sex entirely you are not an incel.

  • @lydiaking6341
    @lydiaking6341 Год назад +141

    This has the same energy as fat acceptance being mad at Adele

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Год назад +25

      When being depressed is your whole personality

    • @jaymorgan7728
      @jaymorgan7728 Год назад +4

      LOL!

    • @FictionHubZA
      @FictionHubZA Год назад +7

      It's just a aay for them to justify being sad and never changing.

  • @quaqamolgreatandmightyskin7312
    @quaqamolgreatandmightyskin7312 Год назад +276

    I'm 28. Never got laid. I'm not an incel. I think it's just a skill issue.

    • @ANationalguy
      @ANationalguy Год назад +92

      It’s not even a skill issue you just didn’t find someone yet. Love comes at all different times or ages. Unless you’re just actually looking to get laid or not love them maybe that’s a skill issue maybe

    • @robbiekop7
      @robbiekop7 Год назад +23

      Women as a rule don't find Mighty Sink Priests sexually alluring 😩

    • @Dante3214
      @Dante3214 Год назад

      @@robbiekop7 I find you sexually alluring

    • @Hilian95
      @Hilian95 Год назад

      @@robbiekop7 Imagine not craving the mighty skink bussy. Women are weird

    • @trappedinamerica7740
      @trappedinamerica7740 Год назад +1

      It's not that important. If you are happy then who cares? If you want to have sex get out there and be open to new people and their imperfections. Otherwise it's all good. You don't have to give in to societies bullshit.

  • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
    @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug Год назад +88

    HOW THE HELL DID A MOD FOR AN INCEL COMMUNITY HAVE THE MOST REASONABLE TAKE?!

  • @StannisHarlock
    @StannisHarlock Год назад +120

    This is like drug addicts getting pissed off that someone left the drug addict community. Goddamn humans are so confused sometimes.

    • @inrainbows1829
      @inrainbows1829 Год назад +36

      I'm an ex addict and yes my old friends now call me a snitch and a loser
      Like seriously I'm the loser😂

    • @paulhammond6978
      @paulhammond6978 Год назад +4

      Yup. That makes the most sense.

    • @seanryan3020
      @seanryan3020 Год назад +5

      I remember one time I was "on the wagon" from pot for a couple of months, and I ran into one of the guys whose house I would hang out and get high at. He said, "Hey, haven't seen you in awhile, what have you been off the pipe or something?"
      It was so awkward because while that was definitely the case, I didn't want to just say that and suggest that the only reason I hung out with them was to get high (which was not the case).

    • @kylegonewild
      @kylegonewild Год назад

      @@fungus1228 Serious addicts absolutely can get bound to one another socially lmao what a ridiculous comment. Mentioning rehab and shit like that's the norm or something. Half the time you won't even be able to recognize a serious addict. They could be taking up a spot in your local board game group and you'd have no idea if you never bothered getting close them. Alcoholics especially form these toxic social bonds with other alcoholics. OP's comment is a bit off. This is not like leaving the drug community, it's like leaving group therapy. The point isn't to wallow in it, the point is to get better. Some people don't realize that for a long time...or ever I guess.

    • @creatrixZBD
      @creatrixZBD Год назад +5

      That happens too. You gotta remember, if someone raises themselves up in any way, in some people this news triggers an overwhelming, subconscious wave of self-comparison. And because they aren’t emotionally mature enough to be happy for the newly-raised person, the response will be warped into something hurtful, in an effort to reset the status quo back to it’s previous “comfortable “ level. Humans are weird, but at heart we are kinda simplistic and logical once you get a base insight into what drives us.

  • @88mphDrBrown
    @88mphDrBrown Год назад +160

    It makes no sense how Komesarj is talking about them choosing to stay a virgin as an ideology, that's not an incel, that's just voluntary celibacy.

    • @outercat
      @outercat Год назад +8

      ... yes theyre called volcels.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa Год назад +23

      Exactly! Like, you'd think the virginity being involuntary would be a huge part of it, otherwise they'd be calling themselves volcels or MGTOW or misogynists or whatever.

    • @belkyhernandez8281
      @belkyhernandez8281 Год назад +1

      I know.

    • @samwiseshanti
      @samwiseshanti Год назад +16

      Nah, it does kind of make sense once you realise that these people have developed their worldview as a direct result of being involuntarily celibate, and deciding that women are to blame for that. I mean, it obviously doesn't actually make sense, but from the perspective of someone whose brain is that broken it is a logical thing to say 🤷‍♂️

    • @ouwebrood497
      @ouwebrood497 Год назад +2

      I never understood incel and I understand it even less now. I was attracted to MGTOW (I still consider myself MGTOW when taking a wide definition) but not getting laid sucks. I was over my 40s when it was my first time. Since then my life is a lot better.

  • @That_One_Xatu
    @That_One_Xatu Год назад +372

    I've always been baffled by how being labeled a virgin in our society is a "bad" thing.

    • @YoruSensei
      @YoruSensei Год назад +213

      yeah men get shamed for being virgins, women get shamed for not being virgins and people wonder why everything sucks

    • @acreativename2781
      @acreativename2781 Год назад

      Because most of them aren't virgin by choice, so it kinda says something about how desirable you are, what are the reasons why you couldn't get laid. No confidence, because you're smelly, because you're a weirdo? Not that complicated.

    • @calemr
      @calemr Год назад +46

      Your overlords demand that you create more workers.
      Like, there's a lot of stuff around that, but that's the core principle, throughout all of history.

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry Год назад +58

      The term "incel" isn't JUST speaking about virginity. 🙄 It's about their toxic behavior & foul treatment of Women. Nobody rips on dudes for being virgins when they behave like human beings & treat people w/respect, come on.

    • @Jazzmaster1992
      @Jazzmaster1992 Год назад +112

      ​@@KabbalahSherry sadly, people absolutely do rip on dudes who aren't getting laid or can't. The whole idea is that a man is as valuable as his ability to be sexually desirable, as it follows that being a "good" person is what makes you attractive. What "needs" to happen is a shift away from believing that being sexually desirable is exactly the same as being a kind and decent human. Unfortunately, jerks do get laid all the time because the qualities that make someone *sexually* desirable are not always going to be synonymous with being truly kind or good. The PUA/Red pill/Manosphere understands the value of sexual attraction and its distinction from simply being a decent human that treats women with respect which is why they persist: they solve the problem of making men feel sexually confident and desirable over simply being nice and hoping someone falls in love with them out of chance one day.

  • @ArchArturo
    @ArchArturo Год назад +189

    I actually have that “easy to get laid, hard to make friends” problem. And my few friends laugh and say “what problem?” … Dude, it’s… ugh

    • @JayMaverick
      @JayMaverick Год назад +8

      Might be you're not being vulnerable enough, or don't know yourself well enough to be vulnerable and genuine around people.
      Or it might be that you live in a place like Miami where people generally are as shallow as a two-tone marker.
      Don't worry about it too much, it's great you're aware of what you want and what's going on. Try to travel and meet people from different communities and backgrounds.

    • @x999uuu1
      @x999uuu1 Год назад

      ​@katakesh8566 why would you make that assumption?

    • @jeanmichellelaurent
      @jeanmichellelaurent Год назад +15

      I actually knew someone with that problem, an army guy who told me "yeah I pull birds but I've just lost my soul I can't be romantic anymore"

    • @Dante3214
      @Dante3214 Год назад +9

      I sort of have the opposite issue, although I'm somewhat introverted so I deal with isolation better than average (not perfectly).
      Can't get laid but can connect with people otherwise. It feels like trading one kind of suffering for another

    • @magne7771
      @magne7771 Год назад +12

      I'm in a weird grey area, where it's _all_ easy for me. If I shut the fuck up.
      Kinda leaves you detached, when you can only allow yourself to _be_ yourself _by_ yourself.

  • @justincain2702
    @justincain2702 Год назад +35

    I thought the whole point of being an incel is your were INVOLUNTARILY celibate. If you are choosing to avoid sex, that's voluntary.

    • @ananousous
      @ananousous Год назад +4

      To a degree, not unlike the term "boomer", inceldom is better understood as a state of mind.

    • @patchwurk6652
      @patchwurk6652 Год назад +6

      @@ananousous Yes. The state of mind of "It's everyone else's fault I can't get laid."
      This guy's getting shit on because he's contradicting their narrative.

  • @khill8645
    @khill8645 Год назад +75

    The weird part is that these folks lashed out at somebody in a way that implies that it's their own bitterness that makes them volcels... they're viewing this as a betrayal, when ostensibly this is what they're all _striving_ for.

    • @aquamarine7599
      @aquamarine7599 Год назад +6

      Right? It's like how can you say you're involuntarily celibate and get mad when someone is no longer celibate unless it's now voluntary. Though I can't help but wonder with these guys in this community, like if any of of them was *poof* suddenly a woman - would they even spend their time of day with people in the same community?

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      Wow

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@aquamarine7599I'm awful incel

  • @SemiIocon
    @SemiIocon Год назад +91

    The social control of "you only have us as a community, no one else will take you" is textbook grooming, seen in religions and cults all over. Jehovah's Witnesses are famous for that kind of social coercion. If you want to help someone out, be a non-judgmental person to talk to for them, don't tell them what to do, they need to take the steps alone but you can be an anchor for them.

    • @fungus1228
      @fungus1228 Год назад

      No one says that except maybe whatever twitter users vaush is looking into here. No incel i’ve ever respected enough to talk to has been on some community building trip. They merely lament their bad fortune that’s about it. It’s very casual and apolitical business.

    • @patchwurk6652
      @patchwurk6652 Год назад +3

      @@fungus1228 "No incel i’ve ever respected enough to talk to has been on some community building trip."
      ...Oddly specific qualifier there. "No incel I've ever respected."
      Pretty sure the assholes are the ones you Don't respect.

    • @fungus1228
      @fungus1228 Год назад

      @@patchwurk6652 Yeah I respected a bunch of incels. Baraka Mkray chief among them. He's a bit of a personal hero to me actually. & he is (or was RIP) a prime of example of someone who did not take to discord or any place to organize some incel jihad initiative or any such cringe. I think they're a lot of standard issue misogynists who don't share in that which haunts the truecels and larp accordingly and are not half as interesting or real.

  • @TheSunnyDayle
    @TheSunnyDayle Год назад +151

    I really like how vaush always acknowledges the Aces when saying things like, "everyone wants to be slamming and jammin". 💜

    • @jordank4889
      @jordank4889 Год назад +25

      Everyone wants to be slamming down cold brewskis with the bros and jammin to sweet tunes!!!

    • @wkcia
      @wkcia Год назад +8

      He means, “everyone wants connection.”

    • @kylegonewild
      @kylegonewild Год назад

      Like half the aces still want to have sex.

  • @puckerings
    @puckerings Год назад +50

    If you WANT be to part of the incel community, you are literally not an incel.

    • @ahkosorsomesaykosby9999
      @ahkosorsomesaykosby9999 Год назад

      None have a choice well they do but ya know don't have a choice to get laid due to skill issues

    • @Mrjonnyjonjon123
      @Mrjonnyjonjon123 Год назад +9

      At that point, you're just a cell lol

    • @beganitdidnt6535
      @beganitdidnt6535 Год назад

      itll call to you sooner or later
      being an ince/ in denial isnt any different
      ur just coping

    • @patchwurk6652
      @patchwurk6652 Год назад

      @@beganitdidnt6535 ...The fuck are you on about?
      It's in the damn name. Incel stands for "Involuntarily Celibate".
      If you're CHOOSING to be an Incel, you Are Not an Incel by definition.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      I DON'T WANT TO BE

  • @Mikeh2077
    @Mikeh2077 Год назад +41

    I lost mine at 23, and went briefly went down the mgtow/redpill route. I’m happy I never went that far down the rabbit hole.

    • @benjaminwilliams41
      @benjaminwilliams41 Год назад +20

      I'm 38, and I'm so glad all this red-pill stuff wasn't around when I was younger. I'd like to think I wouldn't have brought into it, but I was so naive in my teens that I couldn't say that with surety. I had my first proper relationship when I was 18, and she cheated, gaslit, and hit me as well. I was so bitter about it afterwards that I can imagine this stuff would have appealed to me.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      I'm 29
      I've never kissed, held hands

  • @BullofCrete
    @BullofCrete Год назад +144

    This has the same energy as people in the deaf community getting mad at people who use cochlear implants. Like, the community (supposedly) only exists to provide support for people with an issue but then gets mad when the issue is solved.

    • @jordank4889
      @jordank4889 Год назад

      I think it's understandable to turn your disability into a kind of identity or marker for identity as a survival mechanism, but we can become very invested in our identities after the point which it makes any sense to do so. There's nothing you're gaining by losing your abilities that you couldn't gain while having them.

    • @runandarnell8514
      @runandarnell8514 Год назад +21

      I was shocked when I found out about that. But I am autistic, and have seen the pushback against any move to work through autism as well (and not toxic work like ABA, but things like discovering the active genes and possible underlying causes) so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

    • @edwinvoncarstein
      @edwinvoncarstein Год назад +18

      Fair point but I think with the deaf community it is a little bit more complicated since they have to use their own completly seperate language that barely anyone else knows so there is this whole own and unique culture around it compared to the incel shit. I think this here is more like a group od overweight people who constatly complain that they are too fat and want to lose weight but then flip out when one of them actually does it because it was all just about having a big circlejerk and a pity party rather than about really changing anything

    • @ViniSocramSaint
      @ViniSocramSaint Год назад +4

      Reeealy BIG difference in the part where the group provides actual support for having a real life limitation. It's a literal religion instead of a group of activists

    • @jamesfirecat6652
      @jamesfirecat6652 Год назад +9

      @@edwinvoncarstein Crabucket thinking is what Terry Pratchett called it (so named because you can keep live crabs in a bucket with an open lid, since if any individual crab tries to climb out, it will inevitably get pulled back down by the other crabs).

  • @JasonBoyce
    @JasonBoyce Год назад +18

    what's wild is he's like "unfortunately i can no longer associate with this community at all ever again," i mean, your friends should be your friends.

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake Год назад +22

      On the one hand, that "fuck you I got mine attitude" attitude is usually toxic.
      On the other hand, it's the incel community, and it's good that he got out of that vortex

  • @nanopanda
    @nanopanda Год назад +28

    As someone who is (technically) a femcel, I haven't gotten laid because I found my online girlfriend to be "easy." When the time came id have her for when we met and I never thought about what if we broke up before we had physical intimacy.
    Now that I'm single and still a virgin, I kind of feel like I have to put in "work" that is, i have to do the whole dating thing. It's daunting and scary when all u know is ppl online. I think what is happening here with these guys is that their loneliness is their personality and it hasnto MEAN something bc otherwise, they have been wasting their time waiting for someone to hand them a gf for free and little change + effort on their part.

  • @Luminousreign
    @Luminousreign Год назад +91

    I have been a fakecel out of weird catholic guilt my entire life so this is actually a really uplifting story that I am like a boogeyman in the incel community. Also, yes I have never ever had sex.

    • @x999uuu1
      @x999uuu1 Год назад +2

      What is a fakecel

    • @MusicMissionary
      @MusicMissionary Год назад +16

      Former Baptist - it had the same effect on me. It made every date awkward or miss opportunities because while I was willing to have sex before marriage, they all had to be "the one." All that pressure, when it should just be adult play. Ironically, I had a lot of prospects I wouldn't ask out because they were Catholic ;)

    • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
      @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug Год назад +3

      So essentially it was an artificial restriction that was embedded in you that prevents you from taking the unique steps to having sex, and you think that the guy we are talking about has an analogous situation? On one hand, there is no direct evidence from what is shown in the video indicating that to be true, but I also can't see any way in which a mod for an incel community could be well-reasoned other than having a similar situation to you.

    • @Luminousreign
      @Luminousreign Год назад

      I have lots of sex lol. I just lie about it.

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry Год назад

      There's absolutely nothing wrong w/being a Virgin. It's when dudes turn it into an excuse to sh*t all over Women, and talk down on them & behave really foul, that it becomes an issue. Simply being a Virgin is fine! As far as your religious background forcing the issue... that's a whole different topic tbh. Religion f*cks people up in all sorts of ways besides just condemning sex before marriage.

  • @livelongandtroll9108
    @livelongandtroll9108 Год назад +45

    Therein lies the problem with having it be an identity and a community in the first place. Of all the boneheaded ideas incels have this one is the biggest.
    There is extensive research showing that how we label ourselves shapes our expectations and, thus, our outcomes. Imagine "incel" being your identity or worse your political identity and not the situation you're currently in...

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      Lol yep

    • @thecroc
      @thecroc Месяц назад

      Yupp the end goal of the incel "movement" is to eradicate itself. The whole concept of the incel leads to that.
      If you choose it then you are not it.

  • @ileezamotherofrain4537
    @ileezamotherofrain4537 Год назад +43

    I'm a non-binary female person, 40, pretty introverted, and I do find it easier to "merely" get laid than to have a relationship or friendship. One night is one night. Relationships, friends--thoserequire time and psychological and emotional energy. It is much easier to have one conversation, be attracted, and act on it--which is not a bad or shameful thing at all, even if it goes nowhere. It's just sad people do not have time and energy for more, when they want it. I am not trying to complain. I notice that I often overestimate what I am equipped to give even to my closest relationships. I don't feel I "need" very many close people, yet even the ones I have are hard to keep up with. Relationships cannot be prioritized over being productive and making damn sure you look good on paper in case you get shit-canned.

    • @christophergreen6595
      @christophergreen6595 Год назад +7

      Dear gods, I dream of what dating would be like in a world with guaranteed housing/health/education.

    • @latinexus
      @latinexus Год назад +4

      have you considered marrying young men that can't get laid? that way you have multiple long-term, stable relationships, and the young men get laid and everyone's happy? maybe it could work, idk...

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 Год назад

      Do you think you might be aplatonic? It took me a while to figure out that I was.

    • @occamraiser
      @occamraiser Год назад

      @@gljames24isn't the original word for someone who is unable to form relationships due to lack of empathy actually simply Sociopathic, not the made up word aplatonic? We don't need to invent words just to avoid the unwelcome meaning of valid words....if they are valid, then they are valid.

    • @6dhypercube740
      @6dhypercube740 Год назад

      ​@@occamraiser Aplatonic people aren't lacking in empathy. They just lack the feeling of wanting to be friends with a particular person.

  • @TheHeartlessFour
    @TheHeartlessFour Год назад +31

    The people who are mad at him, need to realize there's a difference between being an incel, and being celibate.

  • @moonblaze2713
    @moonblaze2713 Год назад +15

    I've never really been able to wrap my head around the incel philosophy, but this seals the deal. One of them finally had sex and they're *mad*? I thought the point was they didn't want to be incels? Isn't that what involuntary means? They make no damn sense.

  • @benjaminwilliams41
    @benjaminwilliams41 Год назад +89

    Cured by a woman's warmth, good for him. Hopefully, he'll lose the misogyny as well. We've all had dry spells, I dated five different women last year, then this year I've had none. Occupy yourself with hobbies, work on yourself. Don't blame it on women and hate them for it.

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry Год назад +8

      😏🎯

    • @benjaminwilliams41
      @benjaminwilliams41 Год назад +25

      @The Hermit don't ruin my fantasy, people can and do change.

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 Год назад +5

      Thats literally all there is to it, these things just happen naturally, youll get no where forceing it, healthier life better odds it happens sooner than later

    • @ouwebrood497
      @ouwebrood497 Год назад +6

      Yes, it is very healthy to get laid. I know I lost the vast majority of my misogeny when I got laid. Still some remnants of it though but I don't care. The obsession with the idea that women ruined all my chances is gone. I'm chill now.

    • @latinexus
      @latinexus Год назад +2

      Well it'll come back when the divorce papers are handed to him, haha. Well here's hoping it all ends well.

  • @user-em6ie2be7x
    @user-em6ie2be7x Год назад +15

    Kinda impressed Komesarj actually responded to all the posters currently flaming him.

  • @KyleRichter34
    @KyleRichter34 Год назад +11

    I'm not in the incel community, but I am involuntarily celibate. I was born with physical deformities that make sex literally impossible, I jokingly call myself a Trucel sometimes. I've never understood why they hate women, and not themselves like a normal person.

    • @SnuSnuDungeon
      @SnuSnuDungeon Год назад +2

      It's easier for them to blame everyone else for their problems
      Edit- typo and ffs autocorrect

    • @moralkombat66
      @moralkombat66 Год назад +4

      Ego. But yeah i believe incel was coined for people with problems similar to yours, and then appropriated.
      Hope you find love at some point, if that's something you want for yourself. Even if you can't do sex, romance isn't impossible

    • @ihavenojawandimustscream4681
      @ihavenojawandimustscream4681 Год назад +9

      You shouldn't hate yourself or women. Disabled people shouldn't hate themselves for being disabled but rather the capitalist society for not giving social safety net for the smallest of people

    • @thecroc
      @thecroc Месяц назад

      They do hate themselves intensely. Hating women is a coping mechanism.

  • @Maxisamo1
    @Maxisamo1 Год назад +5

    The dude is so right about saying "no one wants to be an incel"
    Like yeah, people forget that "incel" is literally short for "INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE"

  • @TheMoonlightMage
    @TheMoonlightMage Год назад +103

    Imagine being pissed that you weren't issued a government sanctioned woman at birth instead of just fixing your own personality

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry Год назад +7

      Honestly 😂 LMAO

    • @Andrewbait
      @Andrewbait Год назад +2

      Why do you assume is personality?

    • @HankWilliams-kp3io
      @HankWilliams-kp3io Год назад

      For the past 500+ years, any hard working male that didn’t have something drastically wrong with him (wasn’t out of shape, not mentally/physically disabled etc) was guaranteed a partner. That was the social contract between society and men; men slave away to build and maintain civilisation (something that only benefits women), and civilisation upholds monogamy as compensation
      Now society has abolished monogamy but still expects/forces men to keep their end of the deal. It would be like early 1800s cotton farmers announcing that they’d no longer provide their staff with food and shelter but still demanding they continue picking cotton regardless.

    • @AbuBased731
      @AbuBased731 Год назад +1

      Just pERsonalityMaxx Bro so ezzz

    • @EATBreal
      @EATBreal Год назад

      @@Andrewbait It's for the most part down to personality, and both incels and femcels both lacking in appearance and yet both having ridiculously high standards, so both avoid each other. A great shame!

  • @burnttoast111
    @burnttoast111 Год назад +12

    It does show that many incels want to be incels. Which by definition disqualifies them from being 'incels'.

  • @mccoy2294
    @mccoy2294 Год назад +7

    That One Piece meme at the end is pure gold. Also, anything that reminds me of my favorite arc in the series has an instant +1 from me

  • @avatardecadewho
    @avatardecadewho Год назад +7

    "I hope the stinky hole you got was worth it." A person seriously thought that was a banger of a tweet.

  • @JayMaverick
    @JayMaverick Год назад +4

    Great advice with huge empathy in this video, love it.

  • @alurian3208
    @alurian3208 Год назад +30

    I was a virgin until 26. In the gay community the hook up culture is very strong. It's never been a scene I wish to be a part of.

    • @applejuicyjuice
      @applejuicyjuice Год назад +4

      So that wouldn’t make you can incel because you were actively choosing no to engage in sex? Right?

    • @outercat
      @outercat Год назад +4

      that's called a volcel lol

    • @kratti9147
      @kratti9147 Год назад +14

      @@outercat where did this person say they were an incel bruhh😭

    • @kstar1489
      @kstar1489 Год назад +5

      @@applejuicyjuice they never claimed to be an incel

    • @ananousous
      @ananousous Год назад +6

      Hate to break it to you, but this doesn't make you a Scorpio.

  • @MusicMissionary
    @MusicMissionary Год назад +70

    It's why we need an actual men's movement that gives a shit about everyone.

    • @MusicMissionary
      @MusicMissionary Год назад +15

      @the red king True. And if we could keep it from getting high jacked by men with bad intentions. I actually didn't think the incel thing was bad when I first saw it start up on reddit, but we see how it turned out. Guys who were older virgins and found a way out of it could be just what they need. I'm one of those in spades, but whenever I tried to talk to those guys all I got back was bitterness & self-pity. I don't know how to get through to them if they won't listen.

    • @cheesecakeisgross4645
      @cheesecakeisgross4645 Год назад

      Well there was Jordan Peterson but he's a white supremacist, Nazi uhhh... Incel supporter, probably...
      Oh well at least with him destroyed, there is Andrew Tate to replace him. A much better role model... Nice going leftists.

    • @latinexus
      @latinexus Год назад +2

      Find the common ground and shared values, and work backwards from there, and everything will fall into place.

    • @latinexus
      @latinexus Год назад +2

      And remember that there are men on the left, and boys who aspire to left ideals who also suffer from similar pathologies.

    • @ouwebrood497
      @ouwebrood497 Год назад +5

      I agree! The left is dropping the ball on this big time.

  • @hardlyworking_
    @hardlyworking_ Год назад +11

    "The LeBron James of Incels" just makes me think of the song title "The Michael Jordan of Drunk Driving" by AJJ

    • @trianglemoebius
      @trianglemoebius Год назад +6

      Given "The Michael Jordan of Drunk Driving" was about someone who was doing the irresponsible stuff out of a loneliness-fueled self hatred and has now finally gotten his act together, that's actually rather fitting.

  • @RaroHi
    @RaroHi Год назад +8

    I converted my ex into an ex incel, but the misogyny never actually went away and kept creeping up til the eventual split.

    • @rbfilms4752
      @rbfilms4752 Год назад +4

      yeah, it's my reservation about being supportive for people like this - it's great that he's no longer identifying with the incel label, but just giving someone who is being toxic what they want is usually the opposite of what you want to do when behavior needs to change.

    • @beganitdidnt6535
      @beganitdidnt6535 Год назад

      he just knows youll leave and you did

    • @RaroHi
      @RaroHi Год назад +1

      @@beganitdidnt6535 No, he left me. Then wanted back with me, but I told him he has to work on himself and change, so he just quit instead.

    • @patchwurk6652
      @patchwurk6652 Год назад

      @@beganitdidnt6535 Lol, your name is accurate.

    • @beganitdidnt6535
      @beganitdidnt6535 Год назад

      @@RaroHi lol

  • @imacds
    @imacds Год назад +5

    Man idk what the pharmacy put in my Adderall this time but I was able to do ALL of my chores today, while listening to vods in the background. Wasn't even particularly painful, the time just flew by.
    Discipline is amazing!!!

  • @mrplinkett4429
    @mrplinkett4429 Год назад +5

    Thats like saying he abandoned his fellow inmates when he was released from prison.

  • @garywebb2432
    @garywebb2432 Год назад +55

    hey its spelled "LeBron" you wouldn't like us calling you "Voosh" now would you huh Vowsh?

  • @merphul
    @merphul Год назад +6

    That he achieved the thing that they all complain about and:
    1) suddenly feels he's better than all his bros, and
    2) they suddenly assume that he's somehow a completely different person;
    just proves that this whole thing had become this warped and weird identity politics thing rather than having any legitimate gripe. Not that all of us (you know, everyone who found the incel and "men's rights" movement laughable) didn't know this to begin with, but it's amazing that they're going through this incel civil war and still don't realize this about themselves and their alleged movement.

    • @acreativename2781
      @acreativename2781 Год назад

      He *is* better than all his "bros" though lol

    • @benballard5930
      @benballard5930 7 месяцев назад

      To be fair, pussy can change a man. Give you more respect for women. And if he has even an ounce of that, he is better than them

  • @yourneighbourtodoro
    @yourneighbourtodoro Год назад +20

    I'm not far into the video, but I had to say, in his tweet Komesarj is also using language (and getting the response) that I've heard from friends of mine who've deconstructed from evangelicalism or Mormonism. The split-mind about leaving a community you know is harmful, but worried about losing the friendships and connections you've made; The response from other members "wishing them well" in back-handed and aggressive ways. Inceldom is very close in its methods and structure to a cult, and I don't see a lot of people making that connection.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Год назад

      All it's missing is a leader and a way to extract money/labor from them.

    • @muke001
      @muke001 Год назад

      ​@@LimeyLassenno, it has that too (to an extent) in the form of Andrew Tate and FnF

    • @yourneighbourtodoro
      @yourneighbourtodoro Год назад

      @@LimeyLassen Yeah, it's not a one-to-one connection, obviously. It's more like a cult in search of a leader. It has internal structures and mechanics, and people like Andrew Tate, Piers Morgan, or Paul Joseph Watson will more than happily latch onto it and exploit the members for money.

    • @paulhammond6978
      @paulhammond6978 Год назад +2

      I've seen three or four comments in here along those lines, and it's implied in what Vaush said about "don't get too caught up with any particular online community at the expense of real life friends". It's clearly that sort of dynamic.

  • @yaboye3791
    @yaboye3791 Год назад +8

    Incels posting L's online never gets old

  • @DT-dc4br
    @DT-dc4br Год назад +27

    Turned out he was voluntarily celebrate. That's why the rest of the community are mad; for exposing their mythos of it being an involuntary, intractable position rather than something they can probably do something about, like, er, perhaps being less toxic.

  • @Lovehandels
    @Lovehandels Год назад +20

    Their reaction to the one guy who's now out is funny yet sad at the same time...

  • @Wendy_O._Koopa
    @Wendy_O._Koopa Год назад +8

    Imagine if there was a support group for people who couldn't pass video games... there probably is somewhere, but just run with this fictional version for a bit. At first it's a bunch of people sharing stories about how they've personally tried and failed at Backwards Long-Jumping through doors, or frame perfect jumps in Paper Mario to clip through the level geometry, or basically any speedrunner trick. But over time the attitude shifts until anyone who's ever even passed a video game is shunned from the group. Then it gets to the point where everyone starts shunning you if you have over 70 Stars, because you shouldn't even be opening the final door, that's not what the inlos (involuntary losers) movement is all about. You can get 69 Stars so you can say "noice" but never 70 or more, that's just right out. -Also, no more than 123 Power Moons in Super Mario Odyssey, and whatever rules for each individual game, all that should go without saying.-
    Then one day, someone makes a post about how this one game has a credits button on the home menu, and you can just press it and the credit will start rolling. This is an odd feature that typically only bad videogames have, like ones so bad they know nopony is ever going to finish them; but the point is that for whatever reason, *_the speedrunning community considers this to be "passing" the game._* So, because they were posting about an oddity they found in some random crappy game, they were ostracized from the group for some obscure rule that should never exist in the first place (I disapprove of _all_ credit warp glitches counting as "passing" a game). And, uh... what's the point of this analogy? That this drama is stupid. "We been know" and all that, but this is just me calling it stupid with extra steps... I guess.

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake Год назад +1

      Instead of working on themselves, the involuntary celebates became voluntary celebates, but continued to blame everyone else

  • @elliotterodriguez
    @elliotterodriguez Год назад +3

    I'm sorry LOL "Stinky Hole" is sending me bro 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @AKrg9916
      @AKrg9916 Год назад

      “ One taste of pussy pie “ 😂😂😂😂

  • @oliorogue
    @oliorogue Год назад +20

    You're right, most don't want to be incels. You're also right about the grass is greener perspective. Just because someone gets laid constantly doesn't mean their life is enviable. It is also sad that his "friends" won't let him come back so to speak if she turns him down. You should be there for friends especially when their lovers break up or divorce them.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Год назад +2

      It's a common experience with guys like this, they get a tinder match for the first time, get freaky, and the shock to find they don't feel any happier or more fulfilled then before.

    • @ericosagie3046
      @ericosagie3046 Год назад +2

      @@LimeyLassenI feel that lots of people would still like to get laid with few or no friends than have lots of friends and not get laid at all

    • @ezekieljohnson8345
      @ezekieljohnson8345 Год назад

      @@ericosagie3046 100% it varies from person to person. I can't speak for everyone but i have friends and such so i feel good about my social life. For me it IS the lack of sexual fulfillment and the painful reminder that is my libido that im just alone in that way. This perspective isn't really talked about much honestly.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      I cry being a virgin

  • @davidv4018
    @davidv4018 Год назад +6

    I would recommend to form bonds with people who have shared ideology and interests. Being an insecure celibate is neither of those. Like, i can relate with these guys; at a time i thought i would never be with someone, sex was only one element. In highschool i wasn't in a group of friends with girls; only some geeks who played videogames and played music. I didn't know how to approach someone i liked (also i thought i would be ashamed for trying and didn't have a chance), nor the circumstances would casually get me there (like it usually happens in movies with geek protagonists).
    If i had a friend with a relatable condition, and eventually he dated someone; i would be happy for him, or i would be jealous, or i would envy him; but i wouldn't call him a traitor. Being an incel is a condition in which you can relate with someone else, you can feel sympathy or empathy, etc; but it is not a political movement, it's not something to be protected.
    If it was a political movement, what would it be? It can't be one of awareness and empathy or helping people to have better self esteem or get laid or whatever; because they seem to consider it to be treason. So, is it maybe "lets resent women and support every right wing movement that tries to take away their rights. Lets be angry at the world together".

  • @RocKnight11
    @RocKnight11 Год назад +5

    Maybe the real incels were all the friends we made along the way.

  • @namelastnamefirst4520
    @namelastnamefirst4520 Год назад +35

    Remember. You can’t spell incel without the L!

  • @asd123ish
    @asd123ish Год назад +4

    6:20 It makes perfect sense if you look at it from the perspective of someone who is selfish and has low self-esteem. They're crabs in a bucket and they don't think they'll ever get out, even if socioeconomic conditions change in a way that leads to the metaphorical bucket getting some height trimmed off. Sure, some crabs near the top will get out, but the bottom crabs resent that and get pinchy.

  • @obi-wan-pierogi
    @obi-wan-pierogi Год назад +19

    As someone who is Ace spec I’ve always been fascinated by the incel community. I understand sex is something people enjoy and not having that can suck but getting so rage filled and like insane seems like a bit of an overreaction to me. Also I feel like 99 percent of these peoples issues with forming relationships is their negative attitude and personality cause there are people that looks are not the first thing they look for in people ( myself included) but imo nothing can make me look past someone’s awful personality so these people gotta work on that.

    • @ezekieljohnson8345
      @ezekieljohnson8345 Год назад +2

      It seems like a bit of a overaction if you have never personally felt it (not justifying their beliefs). But imagine having a urge you basically just have to ignore if it pops up. And all it does is remind you that your not loved in a particular way. A way others around you are. You don't know why nobody likes you this way. All you know is you get physically reminded of it (some more than others due to higher libido) and eventually you have to understand or cope with the fact that. You are alone. Even if you have friends. This side of you, your sexuality is something nobody else cares about and nobody likes you enough to care about it. Some people ignore it just find, but to others its a sad reminder of loneliness in their life that's only made worse by the assumptions people make about you and the fact that you can't really talk about it because you will either be shamed or be thought of as a bad person. Being an incel is just a negative and extremely isolating experience for some people (although they only make it worse by joining hateful groups).

    • @AbuBased731
      @AbuBased731 Год назад +1

      Faceonality Bruh fr fr 💯

    • @ezekieljohnson8345
      @ezekieljohnson8345 Год назад

      @@chunguschungus Its not a myth. Im someone that is living that experience right now and im not even short ugly or a horrible person. I have friends and lots of people get along with me and i tend to make good first impressions AND everyone in my community generally has a positive opinion of me. Yet im alone and can't get a single relationship and have never had sex at all before. Its not a myth. I'm literally dealing with the shit right now. I've been trying and nothing helps. Your just lucky you have never had to deal with it or have seen it in your life. Its easy to just pretend any experience but your own is some myth but it is real. You are literally doing the thing that contributes to the problem. "Oh you can't get laid so its because your just lazy and an incel that enjoys being alone." ffs. If someone is having trouble finding romantic relationships and people like you have nothing to say other than to assume they aren't trying and that they want to be alone well ofc a bunch of these people are gonna go to where they at least feel people care and don't dismiss them. Its just sad that these people go to the incel community. But talking to people about this is really making me realize why they do it. Nobody else gives a fuck about this life experience and either genuinely don't care. Or you get people telling you your life experience doesn't exist while making negative assumptions about you.

    • @Kraus-
      @Kraus- Год назад +2

      I would never suggest anything illegal, but if a lack of sex is bothering you that much: money can be exchanged for goods and services. If it's just loneliness then join a Minecraft server or something lmao.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      ​You're suggesting prostitution??​@@Kraus-

  • @Purpleturtlehurtler
    @Purpleturtlehurtler Год назад +10

    Character development is always a good thing. 🎉

    • @YoruSensei
      @YoruSensei Год назад +4

      that dude said that he still hates women tho, idk why vaush didnt show that comment

    • @Purpleturtlehurtler
      @Purpleturtlehurtler Год назад +2

      @@YoruSensei oof. That sucks.

  • @kkon5ti
    @kkon5ti Год назад +1

    As I have thought so often, great analysis. Ty Vaush.

  • @zephyr8072
    @zephyr8072 Год назад +5

    Incels really doing a Kylo Ren “TRAITORRRR!!” rn.

    • @ananousous
      @ananousous Год назад

      They're stuck singing "In the Zone" with Anakin

  • @Swolidarity
    @Swolidarity Год назад +3

    They do realize incel stands for INVOLUNTARY celibate right

  • @JTSuter
    @JTSuter Год назад +12

    I always thought that “incels” were just a joke or an insult, but there are literally groups of people calling themselves incels? How unbelievably pathetic 😂

    • @TranshumanMarissa
      @TranshumanMarissa Год назад +5

      yeah. They are an offshoot of the manosphere, stuff like pick-up artists, Mgtow, and such. to be honest, its kinda born of that whole.. 'nice guy' and 'foreveralone' thing a couple decades ago, where guys were buying into alpha and beta bullshit, assuming that 'nice guys finish last' and assumed its impossible to stop being forever alone. It kinda all coalesced into this new community.

    • @beganitdidnt6535
      @beganitdidnt6535 Год назад

      yeah kind of like joos

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      Wow

  • @bushudo1
    @bushudo1 11 месяцев назад +1

    And now I have the space jam theme stuck in my head 😂

  • @Movel0
    @Movel0 Год назад +15

    I like the fact he didn't think twice about using his newfound experience to give his incel mates some tips about getting laid, he straight up said "bye losers lmao"

    • @sprig5173
      @sprig5173 Год назад +2

      They didn't seem open to constructive criticism.

    • @stevealexander5344
      @stevealexander5344 Год назад +2

      Looking at some of the posts Vaush showed, let's be honest here. They weren't gonna listen to him anyway.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      I'm a loser?

  • @stagqueen907
    @stagqueen907 Год назад +2

    Doing a dive into the account tagged as his girlfriend was…concerning😬. Super misogynistic, saying she would violently kill herself without him, only 19 years old and DEFINITELY being groomed. This will not end well for her.

  • @qualcunoesuasorella
    @qualcunoesuasorella Год назад +8

    "Nobody wants to be an incel"
    "Where is it written tho"
    "In the word INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE"

  • @SaintKines
    @SaintKines Год назад +5

    As much as these guys hate themselves and stew on negativity, it all stems from deep pain. Whether they bring it all on themselves or not, they are in a lot of pain having only known rejection.
    The whole "movement" is just a defense mechanism. They build up this hateful, judgemental and insulting social circle as a way to cope and protect whats left of their ego.

  • @v0Xx60
    @v0Xx60 Год назад +5

    If "incel" is supposed to be shorthand for "involuntary celibate", wouldn't anyone voluntarily committing themselves to inceldom not be an incel by definition? Like, claiming someone is betraying the incel community by getting laid implies that they would CHOOSE to turn down sex, which wouldn't make them an incel, they would just be celibate. Logically the end goal of any incel would be to get laid, no? Isn't that supposed to be the whole point, that their celibacy is involuntary, which means they don't want to be celibate? If they have an issue with someone in their community managing to get out by finding a relationiship/having sex, one might come to the conclusion that their problems run deeper than simply not getting laid or finding a partner.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      He didn't betray me

    • @v0Xx60
      @v0Xx60 7 месяцев назад

      @@scifirealism5943 and?

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      @@v0Xx60 I'm upset I'm incel

    • @v0Xx60
      @v0Xx60 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@scifirealism5943 ok? and? I guess I'm glad you don't feel betrayed by someone who got out? I'm not sure what your point is.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 7 месяцев назад

      @@v0Xx60 yes.

  • @VonPatzy
    @VonPatzy Год назад +2

    By chastising him for voluntarily breaking his celibacy then they contradict their entire premise.

  • @MindoftheNorthStar
    @MindoftheNorthStar Год назад +27

    Damn... the 7th to 9th greatest incel of all time called it quits?
    Interesting.
    Interesting indeed.

  • @viktorlindqvist5308
    @viktorlindqvist5308 Год назад +1

    The final piece of advice is just true

  • @robertkirchner7981
    @robertkirchner7981 Год назад +3

    If you choose to remain an InCel, how do you lay claim to the "involuntary" part? Do you then just become a "Cel"?

    • @lauraanderson8785
      @lauraanderson8785 Год назад

      I believe they call themselves volcel (voluntary celibate) if they're intentionally being celibate

    • @fantuswitt9063
      @fantuswitt9063 Год назад

      Normally it would be called MGTOW

  • @void-creature
    @void-creature Год назад +2

    That "title" hit me like a salmon into the face

  • @TheOrene
    @TheOrene Год назад +3

    My man could’ve just lied, and kept his prominence. Then again, idk if he got money for this, probably not which is why he decided to leave instead of becoming a grifter

  • @immashitposter8749
    @immashitposter8749 Год назад +2

    Incels: "Jordan's better anyway"

  • @strongbone9471
    @strongbone9471 Год назад +3

    To them this is like when lebron left clevaland for miami
    The only difference is Komesarj isn't going back home.

  • @pepperpitz3291
    @pepperpitz3291 Год назад +1

    Don’t get committed to those groups. Fine. …what group can I commit to?
    I’m not in any groups but I’m horribly lonely. Is there literally any option to find FRIENDS?
    ANYWHERE???
    I’ve been looking for the last 6 years and haven’t made a friend. Not a real one. Not Someone I can talk about REAL issues with or anyone who REALLY gets excited to be with me or who REALLY shares passion and hope with me.
    There’s just nothing out there, man.
    There’s people. There’s groups but friendship is so fukkin dead.
    Good luck.

  • @Craxin01
    @Craxin01 Год назад +8

    I'm a celibate man, never had sex. Long ago, I just decided to give up. Honestly, I'm happier this way. Trying to seek out a sexual relationship would give me a ton of anxiety.

    • @AesopTwin
      @AesopTwin Год назад

      As a dude who lost their virginity at 25, sex isn't exactly the pinnacle experience you'll have in your life. It's fun, but its also messy, clumsy, sometimes a bit nasty (not the good nasty either). It's at its best when you have an actually emotional connection with someone, and at it's worst you'll be regretting that you did it the very next day.
      I think a much more grand experience is to fall in love with someone.

    • @fungus1228
      @fungus1228 Год назад +1

      @@AesopTwin "not the good" nasty? You been with someone with incontinence issues or something?

    • @AesopTwin
      @AesopTwin Год назад

      @@fungus1228 no. That could also be a thing that happens during sex, but it's probably rare.

    • @cameo1013
      @cameo1013 Год назад +2

      Become a Buddhist monk, this society is collapsing as a whole

  • @VooshSpokesman
    @VooshSpokesman Год назад +2

    Love from a Xanderhal and Shark3ozero Fan!

  • @curseyoujordanshow
    @curseyoujordanshow Год назад +10

    Someone may enter the incel community because they can't get laid, but once it becomes a choice to stay in that community "for the bros", it's no longer involuntary. Of course, if a self-described incel is going to call someone a traitor for finally getting some, then they're probably more of an incel than even they realize.

  • @SubstituteScholar
    @SubstituteScholar Год назад +2

    Discipline is personal. It cannot be imposed. It is learnt. That is progressive.

  • @kneau
    @kneau Год назад +3

    Plot twist: their celibacy became voluntary.

  • @butHomeisNowhere___
    @butHomeisNowhere___ Год назад +2

    "Stinky Hole"
    Truly a wordsmith.

  • @isthatyoursomnomnom
    @isthatyoursomnomnom Год назад +3

    Jordan Petersen weeps for this man's fall from grace.

  • @ttrestle
    @ttrestle Год назад +1

    Greatest title of a vid ever

  • @Ramona_93
    @Ramona_93 Год назад +19

    Incel you glad I didn't say banana?

  • @BlueOzarkDenizen
    @BlueOzarkDenizen Год назад +2

    The advice at 12:56 is really solid

  • @TenleyAtwood
    @TenleyAtwood Год назад +17

    I was getting ready for a date when this story broke. Lol. It's definitely a strange, strange world from the outside looking in. I just found out what an incel was like, a month ago. The thing that's so funny to me is the victorian skull pseudo science obsession. It's so weird. Wishing all you incels out there a good therapist, a shower and a sweet partner to come into your lives. I wish the best for people in that community. But from a female perspective, it's got nothing to do with the shape or size of your skull....or mine. Lol

    • @TranshumanMarissa
      @TranshumanMarissa Год назад +3

      yeaaaaaah.. Ive been following the movement since before Incels were actually a thing. Its all born of that.. 'foreveralone' bullshit that used to be a meme, along with stuff like 'nice guys'. guh. its really all too wild.

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 Год назад

      Yeah my social circle leans feminine, if someone thinks chicks are freaking about millimeters of bone your off your face

    • @TenleyAtwood
      @TenleyAtwood Год назад +1

      @@TranshumanMarissa lol Weird. It's so far outside of my personal experience I don't know what to say about it?! I'm just concerned because there appears to be a pipeline from the incel community to the alt right?!

    • @AbuBased731
      @AbuBased731 Год назад +7

      >Just [thERapy]Maxx
      >[ShowER]maxx
      >[pERsonality]Maxx
      Bruh So Ezzzz

  • @luminyam6145
    @luminyam6145 Год назад

    Love your insight.

  • @SilverDragonJay
    @SilverDragonJay Год назад +6

    i just don't understand. "Its time for a new chapter of my life...defined by having sex once"
    I mean.... good for you? good on you for growing and embracing change? but why was the thing that prompted this getting laid? I'm sorry, but I genuinely don't believe that having sex is this life changing experience. But then, I'm a virgin so idk maybe I just haven't given it a fair shake yet; my impression from the outside looking in -- from the bushes ofc -- is that its overrated. A good time, to be sure, a lovely thing to do with someone you love or even just a fun way to kill time with a stranger, but I reject the notion that its something that makes your life worth living. I don't even agree with Vaush that this increase in virgins is, itself, a problem, or at least, his focus on the sex aspect of it. I just view it as a symptom of larger societal problems that need to be addressed because a rise in virginity is not the only consequence of these problems. While I think that's his core position as well, I don't like the emphasis he puts on the actual sex part of the equation. I'm not saying that he's wrong and dumb and stupid and needs to change his rhetorical strategy (put down the pitchforks you idiots) just that I don't like his particular approach to that topic. And that is my right.
    idk, its shit like this that makes me wonder if I'm actually ace, because while I've been attracted to people before, it feels like I must be missing something. Or maybe people like this just need psychiatric help. I genuinely can't tell, but this feels pretty psychotic imo. I, personally, would rather sit with the Aces and eat garlic bread then join a community entirely centered around how I can't get laid.

    • @giannipiccioni8411
      @giannipiccioni8411 Год назад

      It's the hormones. Post nut clarity implies pre nut mind fog, given by the hormones in your body telling you you have to do it and it's special. The universe revolves around it, life, religion, society, economics, all revolves around getting laid because if the chemicals in the brain.

    • @latinexus
      @latinexus Год назад +1

      You're absolutely correct in a lot of ways. Young men getting action doesn't quite solve this problem, politically or materially. We should ask why loneliness is increasing across the bored. Merely devaluing social relationships and making it more common and meaningless does not necessarily solve the problem. Ignoring the problem exists certainly solves nothing. I think Vaush's response was mostly good. I'm always more concerned about the divorce rate. It seems like in developed countries, the divorce rate only falls if marriages fall as well. It's all very interesting. But for you, a person who might be ace, I'm not sure how to solve the problem of you not getting laid, lol. But I think ace people can help in providing a more "objective" analysis on the whole thing. V isn't ace, to my knowledge, so he always comes off as more "subjective".

    • @ezekieljohnson8345
      @ezekieljohnson8345 Год назад

      For some people finally having a sexual experience is getting their sexual identify realized and its the release of a mental burden by confirming someone is comfortable enough to have sex with you or is attracted to you or someone likes you enough to care about your sexual experience. Its not that big a deal for some people but i know people that really weren't doing great in life and having sex actually really did improve their life. Not directly but the snowball effect of feeling loved. The snowball effect of having someone care about a deeply personal side of yourself. The confidence that comes with being wanted by someone even if its just for sex legit caused their life to change for the better.

  • @xpirate16
    @xpirate16 Год назад +1

    Once the sword comes out of the stone...or goes in the stone...I don't know where I'm going with this analogy. I'd like to bail out.

  • @joeltheowl3299
    @joeltheowl3299 Год назад +3

    These are for sure the same dudes who lost their shit when some plus size people were mad that Adele went on a diet.

    • @KSmithwick1989
      @KSmithwick1989 Год назад

      It's like what Vaush had said. Some of these movements are self-perpetuating grifts. They select niche social issues as a vehicle to push fringe politics.
      They even show there hand when people solve their personal issues. Then get accused of weakening the movement. Pointing to it was never about self-improvement.

  • @no_Ray_bang
    @no_Ray_bang Год назад +2

    Honestly it reminds me a bit of the straight edge community circa 1990's (the period of time when I was within its orbit)

  • @melanin807
    @melanin807 Год назад +7

    happy 4 him :)

  • @IXSICNESS
    @IXSICNESS Год назад +10

    He didnt even necessarily get laid.
    He could have rejected the opportunity to get laid and by definition no longer be involuntarily celibate as he would just be celibate

  • @CleanupKrew7
    @CleanupKrew7 Год назад +1

    "Slamming and Jamming" lmao 🤣

  • @piccalillipit9211
    @piccalillipit9211 Год назад +7

    *CDC STUDY 85% OF GUYS 18 TO 24* in the USA turned down a date at least once in the last 12 months cos they could not afford to go
    South Korea are giving teenagers $500 a month to go dating cos no one is finding partners cos its too expensive in 2023.
    I grew up in a very VERY poor family in the north of Thatchers Britain - I NEVER turned down a date cos I could not afford it - even on my salary from working weekends at the gas station

  • @eliasE989
    @eliasE989 Год назад

    good video, vouwsh

  • @lmitz
    @lmitz Год назад +4

    It's funny all the people acting like it's a bad thing to stop being an incel and like he shouldn't want it. It's literally called involuntary and people really act like it's a choice.

  • @BlizzardofOze
    @BlizzardofOze Год назад +2

    I will never understand the mind of someone who adopts the term "incel" as part of their identity willingly. It's not like taking the power back from a racial epithet, incel actually means something and that thing is pretty embarrassing to admit.