This isn't about if college is good or not. I went. Got my bachelors. But that doesn't mean I can't start a business. It's that University of Utah is gate keeping your success, unless you have an MBA, YoUR huStLe cAn OnlY GeT yOu So Far.
I have an MBA, and I concentrated in entrepreneurship. I started my own company which other people in our class thought was crazy while they all went to look for jobs. I thought it was crazy that we can consider ourselves "masters of business", but yet Im the only person who knows how to build and run a business. USA Colleges are businesses just like everyone else. They have a product to sell and its one of the most successful marketing campaigns in the world. Everyone, including me fell for it. The way the job market is now, unless you go to a top ten university you might as well stay at home, study, and make a portfolio of work to show to potential employers. Its too expensive to justify the cost of college compared to the jobs that are available to you. The only reason top ten colleges are worth going to is because the job connections you get justify the cost. Its not because the education is better. Anyone can read a book.
but did your things show it to their things when they were done, and did their things get done? cause I'm really I can't go to sleep without knowing that my things' things are done. what's keeping you up at night?
Ignore that and send the CV/resume anyway and if you pass the HR filter but called on the degree, just reference Musk. I dropped out of college and pass those filters but I do sometimes get asked why I didn't finish.
Well, it's probably not Elon writing the requirements, it's some clueless HR lady. Even in the most switched-on company, if it's big enough, you'll find them.
It is true that you don't but it's also true that there are very few people that can prove they have the experience. This specifically mechanical engineering electrical engineering jobs.
The funny thing is, there are plenty of cases where the job posting will say that you need a certain college degree, but they actually end up hiring somebody who doesn't have ANY degree.
Why do they love starting so much? Probably because they cant keep one up, and have to start another one. Start is good and all, but the soul of the business is to stay up.
My Parents never went to college. Right after he finished high school, he was sent to war in Croatia in the 90's. He came to America with little to no english and no college experience and he started his own painting company. And now they have a huge house and are living great. Your hustle can only get you so far.
@@akalion213 Signaling theory my friend. They have done controlled studies, there is no cognitive gain from a bachelors, they only thing that happens is that you get older and learn a few specific skills that most likely won't be related to what you do for your career. A degree signals that you take marching order and the entrance exams serve as a really bad IQ test. Employers have nothing else to work off of so they use degrees.
Whew as a single mom hustling my way up, this video was awesome. I can’t afford college or boot camps so I’m teaching myself coding at night after my kids go to bed. Thanks for such amazing and relatable content. It’s truly invaluable.
I got accepted at a university for bachelors in software engineering. It is kind of depressing for me to be honest, I want to pursue the independent self taught path and I'm doing really well with that too. My family wanted me to go to university as its the safe route. It definitely is but this is not what i wanted and i know for a fact if i keep working hard i can achieve whatever I want. Anyways, its a month before my classes start and I'm really hoping , even though its obviously extremely unlikely, to be in a position where they are like oh yea you actually are making a living doing this maybe you actually don't need college. By the way if you're wondering about what I'm actually doing: currently I'm into web dev but i enjoy game dev and other programming related stuff so that's where I'm headed on my own plus I'm trying to get enough confidence to talk infront of a camera so that i can start sharing my story as you suggested
Escape You’ll probably end up having a lot of free time because the course starts off at the very basics and it’s heavily self-study oriented. My advice to you is to fill your time with side projects and learn new skills as the course itself isn’t very challenging if you know your stuff.
Dude, our first day of college we literally did a "team-building" exercise where we had to see which team could stack styrofoam cups the highest, using rubber bands and toothpicks. To this day it was one of the most surreal moments in my life.
I remember in my management class I was in, the professor asked what everyone wanted to get out of college and most students replied in terms of retiring. The professor than asked "what about the journey to retirement?". The golden answer a student said "The journey working for a corporation is not a journey I want to remember, it's all bullshit for a paycheck that pays more than minimum wage".
Going to university was the worst mistake I've made in my life. 11 minutes after walking in there, I could immediately tell that I knew more than these idiots "teaching" me. These people getting $100k/ yr to teach me about outdated programs that aren't even supported anymore. Thanks a lot university. Now I'm 2 years behind in my field of work. I could have been animating but instead I spent 2 years dealing with old guys in their 80's complaining about a projector not working and stressing out about not passing the fifth art history class I've had to take that year. I sincerely hope the universities either become free or just go bankrupt. Unless you're going to some STEM major or something to do with medical, there's no reason to go. You can learn everything online but better and faster. I hope the future generations learn from us.
College is just like a tutorial for a game. Some skip it so they can enjoy and learn at their own pace, and most go by the tutorial step by step but don’t explore and discover efficient ways to play the game of life.
Nah college is more like the cheat guide that all your friends buy so they can do all the epic cheats because they can’t beat the game themselves, but you decide to beat the game yourself with the satisfaction of beating the challenge.
I loved the accuracy (and hilarity) on the impersonation of 'teambuilding' exercises you did. That got me subscribed (plus the other quality content ofcourse)
Went to the U. Didn't work, the Computer Engineering was definitely outdated and I felt cheated when at the end of the day...I got an A yet I didn't learn anything used in the industry.
We are in the same boat lol, I'm in NYC doing sysadmin now. The problem with the CompE degree is that you really don't have choices in employer other than the biggest chip firms.... I would've gone software at the time if I knew
I don't trust what Elon says when you go look at the job postings for applying to his company you will see in any technical field that the postings ask for degrees. He's quite dishonest in that regard not following through with what he tries to portray. Also for everyone to know Elon has a masters degree from a ivy league university. He came from a rich family in south africa. So by all means he has had it easy in life starting. Even his first business that he started was funded by his dad.
Of course not, it's to be taken literal.. for somethings in life you need some credentials, you're not going to get hired at NASA straight out of Highschool or if you didn't further your education, his main point was that it's not ALWAYS needed to guarantee success.
What happened in the Banking Industry many years ago as Jobs were phased out and moved to India, is now happening to software Jobs where people in 3rd world country are well prepared with a college degree and can do the job for 1/10th the Price of a Engineer in the USA, and break every posible labor law.
I think my favorite thing about your videos is that you're really an average guy like most of us, but you got tired of the bullshit and decided to start calling it out for us to hear. There's a lot of other industries that could use this
College is just a way to enhance what you are doing. Stop viewing it like something that should get you anywhere Business are there to make good hustlers great ones. They are not to make bad ones good This is why picking your degree is super important. If you are not willing to do more with your degree than what college is giving you, you can just aswell quit I always see college as “skill outfits” in game. They boost your talents with x% compared to people who don’t do college If your talents/hard work were/are 0, an 100% increase from college will still be 0
This is something a lot of people do not pick up on until it's too late. Shoot, no one learns this BEFORE they go to college. I tried to teach this at a high school but I got fired as a result. They want to teach obedient worker bees.
> They boost your talents with x% compared to people who don’t do college This isn't true. University is you reading books on your own and asking for occasional help. Nothing about the place except the books and time to study boost your skills. And you could do that without paying multiple tens of thousands of dollars. Go on welfare, join a library and do side hustles.
When I first entered college to major in graphic design, my teacher told the class one of the first things about herself was that she got her BFA in graphic design and MFA in digital media and that after graduating with her MFA she was applying to a lot a jobs and still hasn’t heard back from any of the places she applied to so she started her own business. That was the first red flag for me (cuz in-house graphic design jobs aren’t as in-demand as they used to be). The second red flag was one of my digital media teachers telling his students to go to ME for help on Photoshop and Illustrator (cuz he saw I was scarily competent with the software). Third red flag was my classmates going to me for a critique more than to my visual communications teacher. And final red flag, no one in my senior level design class could give me a thorough critique other than “I like your art.” It also didn’t help the fact that while I was in school I was starting to get commission requests from professionals and getting paid $350 per project. So after that I became disillusioned with my time in college and just left to work on my craft. Nothing wrong per se with the school I went to but if you’re freakishly skilled in what you do that you can make a living off of it then college degrees are really nothing more than pieces of paper with debt attached to it.
In my country almost any person can afford BD and MD but the other side of this situation that quality of studying a little bit lower than zero. And in this situation there is only one way to succeed, it is self education. Strange mirrored situation. UPD: One year MD costs near 1000$
There was an inventory clerk at my last job, probably making over 50k per year. Decent paycheck for a simple job in a low cost city. He wound up getting his MBA from some dinky university. He told me he was going to be job searching and deserved 100k because he "has an MBA." This was about a year ago and he's still working at the same place.
@Amri Jahon actually you have to pay about 300€ per semester, but it's for the semester ticket (public transport) mostly and some other stuff. Even so, it's often cheaper than buying public transport yourself, so some people are enrolled as students for much longer than they study, because they want the public transport ticket and all the benefits (often some things are cheaper if you have a student id e.g. going to the cinema)
@Amri Jahon Nothing is free buddy. With the amount of taxes europeans pay everyday compared to americans, you probably end up paying the same for college, except if you don't go to college you pay for everyone else's degree anyway.
I’ve always been a lazy student, but I am graduating with a business degree this semester, and 2 minors: marketing and management. After all of it I feel like it’s a joke and a scam. For my final semester I had been joking with my girlfriend about how little I really read my books, and did a risky experiment: with a 5 class load I never once touched a single book, nor the two novels on business strategy. I only touched them when an assignment demanded very specific referencing, and it was painless and fast. I also didn’t study anything except WoW Classic. Guess who’s finishing the last semester with two As, two Bs, and one C? I got terribly bored with college right away. I tried to treat it like some grand learning period. All I saw were professors that liked to think they were some hot shit, and they took way too much pride in their stupid degrees as a status symbol. Screw them all, and screw the university system. A degree you can get with your eyes closed is not worth respect - especially if you are going to be a prick about it. On top of books they spring these third party services on you like hidden fees that the school website already provides functionality for. I’m actually planning a rant video on that one..
It's not just the US. Colleges are like that everywhere. They're a business after all. But some offer more value than others. Some offer a great value but the prices are excruciating for what they fundamentally teach. And no college will get you a job at the end.
@@dauud4970 I guess it depends heavily on the university and what you are planning to do. I am not exactly doing a CS degree (I'm studying bioinformatics), but the CS classes where I went to made sense. One class was about databases and one about the management of software projects. But if you just want to develop stuff it probably doesn't make much sense to get a degree. There are enough guides online for that.
I like Josh, he does not play around when trying to express what he thinks and he also give logical arguments, I know a lot of people will hate him for it, but f*ck it, as Nietzsche said no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Live is what you make is what you make it , part of being a person is growing up and that means that you cant listen to everything that people say. The thing is people will always talk and whether it will be positive or negative you gotta do whats right for you and not follow everyone else you gotta think for yourself. My dad has a phd and with being educated if you don't don't find a job that actually uses and tests your degree(the job you studied for) within the first 5 years of you getting your degree honors or phd you've wasted a lot of time and money. Great video man I really enjoyed it.
This is my favorite video is I don't know why I am laughing as a defense mechanism, I wish this wasn't true for my life. Unfortunately this is what I've experienced with colleges and entrepreneurship as well.
It's so strange seeing you run around my hometown. Have you ever watched Mike Rowe? He talks all the time about how college was essentially forced in the 70s to youngins as the way out of working "crappy job" while blue collar work can sometimes get you more money for less spent on education. I think you would like what he has to say about this whole thing, albeit most of it being focused on Blue collar work.
@@JoshuaFluke1 As the HR manager of your new start up, what are the chances of that request being bounced out of the office door with a post-it notice saying " No, because we say so" on it?
@uy97 CompTIA A+. I actually just quit that job after being verbally abused by my boss, but really it was the certification that changed everything. Before that, I got no job offers or even any callbacks. Literally three weeks after getting certified I got the job.
The only reason Im going to college really is because in Ireland its really cheap so its almost a requirement because alot of companies just filter out people when they dont have a degree
@@olegsuprun7590 well not all universities teach outdated stuff like learning a newer language is up to you but when college is basically free your almost required it
ZythoS if i give you a rotten apple for free will you take it? The question is serious and dont rush to answer, ask yourself what is more valuable then money in this world?
Can you talk about Year Up an IT program that is free it is 3 months of learning it skills & 6 months of internship at a top tech company like Workday, Salesforce
I am not a programmer, but I really like your videos where you share your opinion, point of view and say things with straight honesty. Keep on going man!
Communications in a corporate environment is a great deal harder than learning how to code, and is the single biggest advantage you can have to make it anywhere in your job.
YAAAAAS! I'm taking a certification course at my community college for digital marketing. My social media marketing book was published in 2017........it's 2022. 😐
"Because hustle can only get you so far." Maybe the slogan is incomplete. Check the back to see if it has "... in the draconian corporate world." Because that's what they really mean.
Joshua is right! I’m almost done with my degree but everything useful I know is thanks to tutorials online and hustle! The degree is more like a luxury thing to put on resume
$58000 for a master's degree? Jeez, I had to pay a total of 4000 euros for my master's in physical chemistry (120 European credits), but I had to pay for printing all my pages though and I didn't get a laptop bag :(. I could at least borrow an actual laptop though (for free, as long as I returned it in time and didn't break it). Also, if I didn't wanna buy some book, I could just go to the library to use theirs. I had to pay less than a tenth of the American costs, but at the cost of not getting a free laptop bag or printing. Life is hard. /s (in case you didn't get that somehow)
That’s so funny cause college can literally only can take you so far lol like there is basically a max salary per degree. Where as ‘your hustle’ literally has no limit to the amount of success you could possibly find.
I took similar units during my accounting and finance degree . Financial and accounting core units were useful, but it with other unit could be resumed and taught in two or four unit for a period of three months. Business communication is bullshit All marketing units are bullshit (very outdate btw. They were teaching what is social media without actually teaching us how to use it, they didn't even open social media), Everything with leadership, management (or managerial, business, critical think (especially critical thinking), and entrepreneur on it, is bullshit. Stay away from business school. If your teachers were good business man, they would never be a teacher. The only somewhat useful major in business schools are accounting, finance, actuary science, and statistics.
I took Graphic Design as my major. The Intro to Business course is very useful for me. A year later, Design Management courses really provide me with useful infomation on how the business works, succeed and failed. When I finally go to work, the most ignorant, idiotic, and laziest primates are the ones with business, management and administration degrees. I do not know what they were taught, but it is clearly not how to make anything better.
In my country master degree is a piece of $hit, but it is still demanded by an employee. And if in America where quality of education is much higher, it still don't give you a job, so probably soon college won't be a thing anymore
I'm a mechanical engineer and dont know the first thing about software, but for some reason I find your channel/content fascinating. Keep up the good work.
I've done my masters in CS & medical image processing. I may have gotten further in my career and started a business sooner if I had started working after bachelors (still in the making, wanna start something next year) but it wasn't a complete time waster. Worked during my studies so I had got some experience as well.
I am currently in grad school and planning for a career in research/academia, and I was always taught "you don't pay for grad school" - and as it stands right now, I am not paying a red cent out of my own pocket for grad school. Even as a student, I'm *making* money (not a tonne, but still receiving a stipend package + income) because proper programs should treat it like what it is - your career. Always be wary of predatory crap like this - $58,000 for the program? Jesus!
If you stuck around long enough to get a master's in your field, make sure they are offering you a fellowship or teaching assistantship through your degree. Unless ur in a professional program for doctors or lawyers, these should be widely available. Colleges run on graduate students because they work on so much of the grant research, their ideas are often taken by professors, and they are cheap labor to teach undergrads. No reason for students that high up on the academic ladder to pay 60K. U should at least have tuition remission and a stipend for your hard work.
I had a business law teacher in community college who was a camputer science major & then got her MBA. For many years she was an investigator for the FDIC. I had this talk about useful & useless college degrees out of class with her & because this is a community college & not a four-year University she could get away with saying this stuff without losing her job. So apparently an MBA is only useful if you want certain government jobs that require it or make it a lot easier to get those jobs but not necessarily require it like investigator for the FDIC. Or they're useful if you want to go on Wall Street but even then you'd have to get it from an ivy League school. Most of the time NBA's are like the CrossFit of college programs in that people only do it to brag that they have it.
My masters program costs less than $4000 CAD per year, and every student in the program is given funding that covers both tuition and living expenses. The United States’ education system is ridiculous.
Worked taxes with a 50 year old grandmother who was competing with me a 20 year old for a $10 hr job. I saw these "degreed" People in the office and wanted to never be in their shoes begging for work against a young person who dives into things. My boss was like the 3rd youngest person there and preferred me because we were more similar in thought. Young people are going to run this. I also start listening to younger smarter people than me now. 16? , let me give you the chance to school me. It would only help me. Oh, I'm not even that far up and people have sent me their resumes. It's like, a confidence game then you gain experience on the way. At a local university they hold events and find business owners to pair their students with. So they secretly have a real hustler. I felt concerned that this university asked me if I wanted to hand pick the students for a team and we were going to be handwaived into the top choices. Actually to think of it. Then another business competition I was in with rent college pads. These kids attended that university and won. Hand waived in? They kinda hold a monopoly on student entrepreneurs in this area to think of it now. But those dudes were real hustlers. I stopped attending a incubator because they have mentors and one competitor was yelling at the two researchers and I sensed he was misleading then and I pulled them aside to tell them what I kept trying to do but the conversation didn't go right. Students are used to blindly trusting the teacher. Even at risk of IP theft. The professors make millions if they get the papers published and etc etc for the school and they keep hustling. It's a scam. Refusing to pay research participants too. Oh I can rant for a day.
My friends recently got their bachelor's degree in IT. And they don't want to work in IT because university basically killed their interest :D I checked what they were learning, and you have same shit in tutorials. No big projects etc. And the best thing is: Even if they have a degree, even if they have small academic projects, some of them won't get hired, because they don't have commercial experience/they don't have more complex projects. (at least here in Poland, they always ask for experience). So it's better to learn on your own, make some cool projects, work on some backend, use some api, some frameworks etc. and the chance is much higher to get hired :D
This isn't about if college is good or not. I went. Got my bachelors. But that doesn't mean I can't start a business. It's that University of Utah is gate keeping your success, unless you have an MBA, YoUR huStLe cAn OnlY GeT yOu So Far.
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I have an MBA, and I concentrated in entrepreneurship. I started my own company which other people in our class thought was crazy while they all went to look for jobs. I thought it was crazy that we can consider ourselves "masters of business", but yet Im the only person who knows how to build and run a business.
USA Colleges are businesses just like everyone else. They have a product to sell and its one of the most successful marketing campaigns in the world. Everyone, including me fell for it. The way the job market is now, unless you go to a top ten university you might as well stay at home, study, and make a portfolio of work to show to potential employers. Its too expensive to justify the cost of college compared to the jobs that are available to you. The only reason top ten colleges are worth going to is because the job connections you get justify the cost. Its not because the education is better. Anyone can read a book.
@@jpm8288 if someone sees what they say and believes it he will be a certify stupid on hist life
Your reactions are just so freaking funny when watching anyone else's DAY IN LIFE
Right? How useful was your degree in starting Grind Reel ?
I showed this video to my things and they got done
but did your things show it to their things when they were done, and did their things get done? cause I'm really I can't go to sleep without knowing that my things' things are done. what's keeping you up at night?
How about the Yoga and wellness classes?
boom. proud of you captain things done getter. careful, though, hustle only gets you so far.
Elon Musk: You don't need a duhgree.
Tesla recruitment: Must have Bachelors or Masters in relevant subject from an Ivy college.
Ignore that and send the CV/resume anyway and if you pass the HR filter but called on the degree, just reference Musk. I dropped out of college and pass those filters but I do sometimes get asked why I didn't finish.
Well, it's probably not Elon writing the requirements, it's some clueless HR lady. Even in the most switched-on company, if it's big enough, you'll find them.
It is true that you don't but it's also true that there are very few people that can prove they have the experience. This specifically mechanical engineering electrical engineering jobs.
The funny thing is, there are plenty of cases where the job posting will say that you need a certain college degree, but they actually end up hiring somebody who doesn't have ANY degree.
@@RealPolitik-dy4it exactly!
College taught me how to lose 30k in 4 years.
lost 50k
@@perc-ai 15k and 6 years here
@@SajeelCodes maybe your time
rofl isn't it the truth?
I got a full ride at my college and live at home so I have zero debt, but sorry for the kids that owe so much student loans
I'm an entreprenEUUURRR and I looooove starting businesses. What businesses? all kinds. I just love starting them.
where we do things and things get done.
A kid selling lemonade is more of an entrepreneur than any of these buttheads.
Why do they love starting so much? Probably because they cant keep one up, and have to start another one. Start is good and all, but the soul of the business is to stay up.
@@GuilhermeDiGiorgi omg! A truth shaft
"Unwind? You just woke up!"
Golden! LOL
maybe she sleeps awkwardly so her muscles are tense after waking up lol
Sleep can be very intense when you go to college to get 48 credits in 2 years.
As a fellow biker, you should dress for the slide, not for the ride Joshua. Stay safe brother
Always got my pads on
@@strongholds12 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
ATGATT baby
Colleges never teach you how to make money, they teach you to be a good worker for those who DO make money
Hence why they get so much $ from donations.
My Parents never went to college. Right after he finished high school, he was sent to war in Croatia in the 90's. He came to America with little to no english and no college experience and he started his own painting company. And now they have a huge house and are living great. Your hustle can only get you so far.
Nice anecdote I guess. The fact is that people with degrees earn significantly more on average.
@@milenasovic tako je 😂
@@akalion213 Signaling theory my friend. They have done controlled studies, there is no cognitive gain from a bachelors, they only thing that happens is that you get older and learn a few specific skills that most likely won't be related to what you do for your career. A degree signals that you take marching order and the entrance exams serve as a really bad IQ test. Employers have nothing else to work off of so they use degrees.
@@akalion213 and how many earn significantly less?
@@user-sw1wq8lh2w You know how averages work mate?
_board of investors_
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Whew as a single mom hustling my way up, this video was awesome. I can’t afford college or boot camps so I’m teaching myself coding at night after my kids go to bed. Thanks for such amazing and relatable content. It’s truly invaluable.
Kaytea not easy being a single mom and I admire your hard working!
Fade Wade thank you so much!! Fast forward 8 months while learning to code I discovered UI and fell in love, and was able to get into a UI program :)
@@seokermom Keep up the good work! Life only gets better from there :)
@solar well done! 2 years on how's it going?
@@seokermomDo you still do coding?
College taught me that getting a B.A. is the easiest way into another country.
Like how?
@@ankitsaikumar6866 Most jobs, hell even most methods of living, in another country require at least a Bachelor Degree.
Truee! Probably one of the few valid reasons to get one
I got accepted at a university for bachelors in software engineering. It is kind of depressing for me to be honest, I want to pursue the independent self taught path and I'm doing really well with that too. My family wanted me to go to university as its the safe route. It definitely is but this is not what i wanted and i know for a fact if i keep working hard i can achieve whatever I want. Anyways, its a month before my classes start and I'm really hoping , even though its obviously extremely unlikely, to be in a position where they are like oh yea you actually are making a living doing this maybe you actually don't need college. By the way if you're wondering about what I'm actually doing: currently I'm into web dev but i enjoy game dev and other programming related stuff so that's where I'm headed on my own plus I'm trying to get enough confidence to talk infront of a camera so that i can start sharing my story as you suggested
You can do it.
@@JoshuaFluke1 thanks i hope it works out
Escape I subbed, I'll be waiting :) good luck
@@shinx6668 thankyou i appreciate the support. I'll reply here after a month hopefully with good news
Escape You’ll probably end up having a lot of free time because the course starts off at the very basics and it’s heavily self-study oriented. My advice to you is to fill your time with side projects and learn new skills as the course itself isn’t very challenging if you know your stuff.
Dude, our first day of college we literally did a "team-building" exercise where we had to see which team could stack styrofoam cups the highest, using rubber bands and toothpicks. To this day it was one of the most surreal moments in my life.
Your valley girl voice makes my day but omg the green beans 😭😭🤣🤣🤣
I remember in my management class I was in, the professor asked what everyone wanted to get out of college and most students replied in terms of retiring. The professor than asked "what about the journey to retirement?". The golden answer a student said "The journey working for a corporation is not a journey I want to remember, it's all bullshit for a paycheck that pays more than minimum wage".
I tried to stack the cans on my own , but they fell, so I think I ll be going to that university to get proper education
You failed because you need a whole team to stack those cans! That's the point!!! 😝
You just don't know how to stack them properly. This is why you need to build and manage a team that does 👍
Going to university was the worst mistake I've made in my life. 11 minutes after walking in there, I could immediately tell that I knew more than these idiots "teaching" me. These people getting $100k/ yr to teach me about outdated programs that aren't even supported anymore. Thanks a lot university. Now I'm 2 years behind in my field of work. I could have been animating but instead I spent 2 years dealing with old guys in their 80's complaining about a projector not working and stressing out about not passing the fifth art history class I've had to take that year. I sincerely hope the universities either become free or just go bankrupt. Unless you're going to some STEM major or something to do with medical, there's no reason to go. You can learn everything online but better and faster. I hope the future generations learn from us.
Reminds me of teachers showing Freakin' Pascal in schools between 2000 to 2008. Like, what's the point.
Actually, a degree can only get you so far. Learning how to hustle is arguably more risky but has no ceiling
Nothing about having a degree prevents you from hustling
College is just like a tutorial for a game. Some skip it so they can enjoy and learn at their own pace, and most go by the tutorial step by step but don’t explore and discover efficient ways to play the game of life.
Well done, true 100%
Best description of college ever. Did you come up with it? Cuz iwant to quote you.
Nah college is more like the cheat guide that all your friends buy so they can do all the epic cheats because they can’t beat the game themselves, but you decide to beat the game yourself with the satisfaction of beating the challenge.
I loved the accuracy (and hilarity) on the impersonation of 'teambuilding' exercises you did. That got me subscribed (plus the other quality content ofcourse)
Went to the U. Didn't work, the Computer Engineering was definitely outdated and I felt cheated when at the end of the day...I got an A yet I didn't learn anything used in the industry.
Same experience here, that's just how it is.
We are in the same boat lol, I'm in NYC doing sysadmin now. The problem with the CompE degree is that you really don't have choices in employer other than the biggest chip firms.... I would've gone software at the time if I knew
Same situation here in Italy
It was a similar situation with Electrical Engineering, when I went.
I don't trust what Elon says when you go look at the job postings for applying to his company you will see in any technical field that the postings ask for degrees. He's quite dishonest in that regard not following through with what he tries to portray. Also for everyone to know Elon has a masters degree from a ivy league university. He came from a rich family in south africa. So by all means he has had it easy in life starting. Even his first business that he started was funded by his dad.
Of course not, it's to be taken literal.. for somethings in life you need some credentials, you're not going to get hired at NASA straight out of Highschool or if you didn't further your education, his main point was that it's not ALWAYS needed to guarantee success.
You need a degree if you're going to be an employee, you don't need a degree if you're going to start and run your own business.
More people need to call out these colleges on their bullshit. I feel very strongly about this.
What happened in the Banking Industry many years ago as Jobs were phased out and moved to India, is now happening to software Jobs where people in 3rd world country are well prepared with a college degree and can do the job for 1/10th the Price of a Engineer in the USA, and break every posible labor law.
I think my favorite thing about your videos is that you're really an average guy like most of us, but you got tired of the bullshit and decided to start calling it out for us to hear. There's a lot of other industries that could use this
Joshua: give me just a sec
Me: sure no problem
College is just a way to enhance what you are doing. Stop viewing it like something that should get you anywhere
Business are there to make good hustlers great ones. They are not to make bad ones good
This is why picking your degree is super important.
If you are not willing to do more with your degree than what college is giving you, you can just aswell quit
I always see college as “skill outfits” in game. They boost your talents with x% compared to people who don’t do college
If your talents/hard work were/are 0, an 100% increase from college will still be 0
This is something a lot of people do not pick up on until it's too late. Shoot, no one learns this BEFORE they go to college. I tried to teach this at a high school but I got fired as a result. They want to teach obedient worker bees.
> They boost your talents with x% compared to people who don’t do college
This isn't true. University is you reading books on your own and asking for occasional help. Nothing about the place except the books and time to study boost your skills. And you could do that without paying multiple tens of thousands of dollars. Go on welfare, join a library and do side hustles.
I called my masters program - "expensive hobby".
College taught me I go to school to learn technical skills not communication skills.
When I first entered college to major in graphic design, my teacher told the class one of the first things about herself was that she got her BFA in graphic design and MFA in digital media and that after graduating with her MFA she was applying to a lot a jobs and still hasn’t heard back from any of the places she applied to so she started her own business. That was the first red flag for me (cuz in-house graphic design jobs aren’t as in-demand as they used to be). The second red flag was one of my digital media teachers telling his students to go to ME for help on Photoshop and Illustrator (cuz he saw I was scarily competent with the software). Third red flag was my classmates going to me for a critique more than to my visual communications teacher. And final red flag, no one in my senior level design class could give me a thorough critique other than “I like your art.”
It also didn’t help the fact that while I was in school I was starting to get commission requests from professionals and getting paid $350 per project. So after that I became disillusioned with my time in college and just left to work on my craft.
Nothing wrong per se with the school I went to but if you’re freakishly skilled in what you do that you can make a living off of it then college degrees are really nothing more than pieces of paper with debt attached to it.
I hope someday you make a feature length film, because you are fucking hilarious
In my country almost any person can afford BD and MD but the other side of this situation that quality of studying a
little bit lower than zero. And in this situation there is only one way to succeed, it is self education. Strange mirrored situation.
UPD: One year MD costs near 1000$
There was an inventory clerk at my last job, probably making over 50k per year. Decent paycheck for a simple job in a low cost city. He wound up getting his MBA from some dinky university. He told me he was going to be job searching and deserved 100k because he "has an MBA." This was about a year ago and he's still working at the same place.
damn...US college fee are really expensive..luckily i got mine less than 7000USD
Only 2.5- 4 k in germany
Amri Jahon Thats wrong you have to pay some fees every semester
@Amri Jahon actually you have to pay about 300€ per semester, but it's for the semester ticket (public transport) mostly and some other stuff. Even so, it's often cheaper than buying public transport yourself, so some people are enrolled as students for much longer than they study, because they want the public transport ticket and all the benefits (often some things are cheaper if you have a student id e.g. going to the cinema)
@Amri Jahon Nothing is free buddy. With the amount of taxes europeans pay everyday compared to americans, you probably end up paying the same for college, except if you don't go to college you pay for everyone else's degree anyway.
Same
I’ve always been a lazy student, but I am graduating with a business degree this semester, and 2 minors: marketing and management. After all of it I feel like it’s a joke and a scam. For my final semester I had been joking with my girlfriend about how little I really read my books, and did a risky experiment: with a 5 class load I never once touched a single book, nor the two novels on business strategy. I only touched them when an assignment demanded very specific referencing, and it was painless and fast. I also didn’t study anything except WoW Classic. Guess who’s finishing the last semester with two As, two Bs, and one C?
I got terribly bored with college right away. I tried to treat it like some grand learning period. All I saw were professors that liked to think they were some hot shit, and they took way too much pride in their stupid degrees as a status symbol. Screw them all, and screw the university system. A degree you can get with your eyes closed is not worth respect - especially if you are going to be a prick about it.
On top of books they spring these third party services on you like hidden fees that the school website already provides functionality for. I’m actually planning a rant video on that one..
My job has a mandatory requirement to have an accounting degree so had no choice rip
That happens but this is geared toward an MBA for 'entreprenerrrrrrs'
All that's missing is the cop hat and the intro "What we do here is go back-back-back..." 👮
IHAZIUDOHAIUDZAZUIDBAIZD DONT DO ME LIKE THIS MAN I FUCKING MISS THAT SHIT GOD DAMIT
college teaches you how to get ripped off and trains you for being in debt
Getting a business degree to be an entreprenUUR is like going to an AA meeting for cocktail recipes.
It's not just the US. Colleges are like that everywhere. They're a business after all. But some offer more value than others. Some offer a great value but the prices are excruciating for what they fundamentally teach. And no college will get you a job at the end.
thomas samson what about computer science degree in Europe? Will it be worth it or not?
@@dauud4970 I guess it depends heavily on the university and what you are planning to do.
I am not exactly doing a CS degree (I'm studying bioinformatics), but the CS classes where I went to made sense. One class was about databases and one about the management of software projects.
But if you just want to develop stuff it probably doesn't make much sense to get a degree. There are enough guides online for that.
thomas samson Medical field jobs are already heavily needed so that’s obvious but IT jobs are going to be needed in the next 5 years or so.
@thomas samson and where do you think that outsourcing goes to? Fictional companies with no workers?
Josh I been using RUclips since its genesis u are my fav RUclipsr!
They hustling brainlets out of their money, that's what they mean by hustle. P.S. We need to make a corporate bingo chart.
I know some computer science graduates who does not know what is "+=" is. Guess what they are graduated. I don't know how they do it.
Nice Triumph my man, let’s get more content about that bike.
I like Josh, he does not play around when trying to express what he thinks and he also give logical arguments, I know a lot of people will hate him for it, but f*ck it, as Nietzsche said no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Live is what you make is what you make it , part of being a person is growing up and that means that you cant listen to everything that people say. The thing is people will always talk and whether it will be positive or negative you gotta do whats right for you and not follow everyone else you gotta think for yourself. My dad has a phd and with being educated if you don't don't find a job that actually uses and tests your degree(the job you studied for) within the first 5 years of you getting your degree honors or phd you've wasted a lot of time and money. Great video man I really enjoyed it.
"The more ads you see on TV for a school , the less respected it is."
This is my favorite video is I don't know why I am laughing as a defense mechanism, I wish this wasn't true for my life. Unfortunately this is what I've experienced with colleges and entrepreneurship as well.
It's so strange seeing you run around my hometown.
Have you ever watched Mike Rowe? He talks all the time about how college was essentially forced in the 70s to youngins as the way out of working "crappy job" while blue collar work can sometimes get you more money for less spent on education. I think you would like what he has to say about this whole thing, albeit most of it being focused on Blue collar work.
60K to get no experience and little knowledge! Yay!
I'll be in your start up. I'm great at managing green beans!
Hired
@@JoshuaFluke1 I best be "allowed" to work remote ;)
@@kingsknightuk you'll need to apply using our remote time request
@@JoshuaFluke1 As the HR manager of your new start up, what are the chances of that request being bounced out of the office door with a post-it notice saying " No, because we say so" on it?
@@kingsknightuk 50% of the time, it's a 100% chance
I got my first IT job paying 25 an hour with only a certification after years of spinning my wheels in college
@uy97 CompTIA A+. I actually just quit that job after being verbally abused by my boss, but really it was the certification that changed everything. Before that, I got no job offers or even any callbacks. Literally three weeks after getting certified I got the job.
Going to College for Business or Entrepreneurship is a waste of time and money.
Dude you make me laught really hard!!! "Entrepreneurs" AHAHA Priceless
The only reason Im going to college really is because in Ireland its really cheap so its almost a requirement because alot of companies just filter out people when they dont have a degree
the question is - is your time cheap?
@@olegsuprun7590 Not every country has greedy education system based on how much money they can scam from students.
ivanlagrossemoule ok but are you willing to waste 3-5 years of your life on education that is outdated? Especially in IT world.
@@olegsuprun7590 well not all universities teach outdated stuff like learning a newer language is up to you but when college is basically free your almost required it
ZythoS if i give you a rotten apple for free will you take it? The question is serious and dont rush to answer, ask yourself what is more valuable then money in this world?
Can you talk about Year Up an IT program that is free it is 3 months of learning it skills & 6 months of internship at a top tech company like Workday, Salesforce
I learned more waiting tables then I did in college
I am not a programmer, but I really like your videos where you share your opinion, point of view and say things with straight honesty. Keep on going man!
Communications in a corporate environment is a great deal harder than learning how to code, and is the single biggest advantage you can have to make it anywhere in your job.
OR: you could setup your own business for $60,000.... (I managed it). There you can "do work, and work gets done" lol
YAAAAAS! I'm taking a certification course at my community college for digital marketing. My social media marketing book was published in 2017........it's 2022. 😐
The Best video by far!!! Good quality work Josh.
JOSHUA! We need more college cringe! It´s hilarious!
my college was almost free. man, US tuition fees are ridiculous!
theyre making a killing!
Canadian?
UNWIND?! YOU JUST WOKE UP - LMFAOO
7:14 "get seeded"
something she obviously doesn't get
"Because hustle can only get you so far."
Maybe the slogan is incomplete. Check the back to see if it has "... in the draconian corporate world." Because that's what they really mean.
"Get seeded at Lassonde Entrepreneur Institute"
Sounds kinky, I like it.
At least they're being honest about fucking you over.
Joshua is right! I’m almost done with my degree but everything useful I know is thanks to tutorials online and hustle! The degree is more like a luxury thing to put on resume
$58000 for a master's degree? Jeez, I had to pay a total of 4000 euros for my master's in physical chemistry (120 European credits), but I had to pay for printing all my pages though and I didn't get a laptop bag :(. I could at least borrow an actual laptop though (for free, as long as I returned it in time and didn't break it). Also, if I didn't wanna buy some book, I could just go to the library to use theirs.
I had to pay less than a tenth of the American costs, but at the cost of not getting a free laptop bag or printing.
Life is hard.
/s (in case you didn't get that somehow)
That’s so funny cause college can literally only can take you so far lol like there is basically a max salary per degree.
Where as ‘your hustle’ literally has no limit to the amount of success you could possibly find.
Am I the only person tripping out on the ginormous can of jalapeños at the beginning???
My teacher said "Degree can only get you through Interview DOOR"
I took similar units during my accounting and finance degree .
Financial and accounting core units were useful, but it with other unit could be resumed and taught in two or four unit for a period of three months.
Business communication is bullshit
All marketing units are bullshit (very outdate btw. They were teaching what is social media without actually teaching us how to use it, they didn't even open social media),
Everything with leadership, management (or managerial, business, critical think (especially critical thinking), and entrepreneur on it, is bullshit.
Stay away from business school. If your teachers were good business man, they would never be a teacher. The only somewhat useful major in business schools are accounting, finance, actuary science, and statistics.
I took Graphic Design as my major. The Intro to Business course is very useful for me. A year later, Design Management courses really provide me with useful infomation on how the business works, succeed and failed.
When I finally go to work, the most ignorant, idiotic, and laziest primates are the ones with business, management and administration degrees.
I do not know what they were taught, but it is clearly not how to make anything better.
In my country master degree is a piece of $hit, but it is still demanded by an employee. And if in America where quality of education is much higher, it still don't give you a job, so probably soon college won't be a thing anymore
Haha, you aproach important corporate topics no one talks about and in a very straighforward way also very funny. You are on fire man, keep up.
I'm a mechanical engineer and dont know the first thing about software, but for some reason I find your channel/content fascinating. Keep up the good work.
Savage man. Had me cracking up
These videos are great. Keep them coming 😂
wanna learn stuff?
got a couple of bucks? Skillshare and Udemy.
what if you're completely broke? RUclips videos and Google
99% of technical Tesla jobs require a college degree
I've done my masters in CS & medical image processing. I may have gotten further in my career and started a business sooner if I had started working after bachelors (still in the making, wanna start something next year) but it wasn't a complete time waster. Worked during my studies so I had got some experience as well.
I am currently in grad school and planning for a career in research/academia, and I was always taught "you don't pay for grad school" - and as it stands right now, I am not paying a red cent out of my own pocket for grad school. Even as a student, I'm *making* money (not a tonne, but still receiving a stipend package + income) because proper programs should treat it like what it is - your career. Always be wary of predatory crap like this - $58,000 for the program? Jesus!
"Downtown Utah"
Slc
60k and they feature access to their library data base and printing HAHA that was fucking hilarious burn
Josh you already know I’m going to comment on this video😤 agree 100%. Loving the videos
If you stuck around long enough to get a master's in your field, make sure they are offering you a fellowship or teaching assistantship through your degree. Unless ur in a professional program for doctors or lawyers, these should be widely available. Colleges run on graduate students because they work on so much of the grant research, their ideas are often taken by professors, and they are cheap labor to teach undergrads. No reason for students that high up on the academic ladder to pay 60K. U should at least have tuition remission and a stipend for your hard work.
"Let me show you some of these videos I'm talking about" *Community College ad starts playing*
I got a chuckle
MBA people ask me questions all the time. RUclips attracts them like flies.
Pay $60,000 so that all of the people that fell for it can feel self-righteous after they told you you'll be limited in life without it. Yikes.
I had a business law teacher in community college who was a camputer science major & then got her MBA. For many years she was an investigator for the FDIC. I had this talk about useful & useless college degrees out of class with her & because this is a community college & not a four-year University she could get away with saying this stuff without losing her job. So apparently an MBA is only useful if you want certain government jobs that require it or make it a lot easier to get those jobs but not necessarily require it like investigator for the FDIC. Or they're useful if you want to go on Wall Street but even then you'd have to get it from an ivy League school. Most of the time NBA's are like the CrossFit of college programs in that people only do it to brag that they have it.
My masters program costs less than $4000 CAD per year, and every student in the program is given funding that covers both tuition and living expenses. The United States’ education system is ridiculous.
That billboard is like trying to neg entrepreneurs into funding their college. Lol.
lmao the green bean skit
Loved the vlog-like intro and how it transitioned into the main content.
Worked taxes with a 50 year old grandmother who was competing with me a 20 year old for a $10 hr job. I saw these "degreed" People in the office and wanted to never be in their shoes begging for work against a young person who dives into things. My boss was like the 3rd youngest person there and preferred me because we were more similar in thought. Young people are going to run this. I also start listening to younger smarter people than me now. 16? , let me give you the chance to school me. It would only help me. Oh, I'm not even that far up and people have sent me their resumes. It's like, a confidence game then you gain experience on the way. At a local university they hold events and find business owners to pair their students with. So they secretly have a real hustler. I felt concerned that this university asked me if I wanted to hand pick the students for a team and we were going to be handwaived into the top choices. Actually to think of it. Then another business competition I was in with rent college pads. These kids attended that university and won. Hand waived in? They kinda hold a monopoly on student entrepreneurs in this area to think of it now. But those dudes were real hustlers. I stopped attending a incubator because they have mentors and one competitor was yelling at the two researchers and I sensed he was misleading then and I pulled them aside to tell them what I kept trying to do but the conversation didn't go right. Students are used to blindly trusting the teacher. Even at risk of IP theft. The professors make millions if they get the papers published and etc etc for the school and they keep hustling. It's a scam. Refusing to pay research participants too. Oh I can rant for a day.
That feel when the only thing getting 'done' is your will to continue watching the David Eccles video.
Unwind after walking up
Thirsty Thursday
...I'm done 😂
My friends recently got their bachelor's degree in IT. And they don't want to work in IT because university basically killed their interest :D
I checked what they were learning, and you have same shit in tutorials. No big projects etc.
And the best thing is: Even if they have a degree, even if they have small academic projects, some of them won't get hired, because they don't have commercial experience/they don't have more complex projects. (at least here in Poland, they always ask for experience). So it's better to learn on your own, make some cool projects, work on some backend, use some api, some frameworks etc. and the chance is much higher to get hired :D