This was one of my favorite episodes...Monk irritating the other jurors then saving the day by alerting Natalie that something was amiss in the jury room. A comic version of 12 Angry Men!
"Don't get me wrong, it's a great system, it really is the best justice system in the world. I just don't want to be a part of it." "What if everybody felt that way?" "Everybody DOES." One of my favorite lines in all of fiction.
I wonder how many people let the fact they were forced to attend jury duty influence their decisions? "Mr Whitaker, we have the defendant on video beheading three people, a dozen witnesses showing he held up a bank, a signed confession that he later recanted...and your still saying he is not guilty?" "Yes your honor, I think the defense made an excellent case....and I'm hoping this proves I should never be chosen for jury duty again"
Yeah, that's not how it works. If you just want to get home quickly, you vote whatever the majority votes and don't take part in group discussions. And in a case like that, the majority would go guilty, so by you going against it just to never be called to jury duty again (which is NOT how that works, the assignment is random), you are actually making the case drag on for longer, shooting yourself in your own foot. ...plus, if you say you think the defendant is non-guilty, REGARDLESS OF EVIDENCE, you are allowed to do that. It's called "Jury Nullification" and means that a jury can decide to IGNORE the law when they decide on their verdict. ...though if the case is obvious, there will obviously be an appeal to a higher court. Though that again is tricky, since the case has to be overturned on something OTHER than the jury verdict, because the jury verdict can't be appealed directly and you'll instead need to prove the jury has been influenced in some way. And if you've read the above two paragraphs, congratulations, you have just been influenced. Me telling you about Jury Nullifaction means no lawyer wants you on their case. So during the initial questioning, just state that you know and are willing to implement jury nullification, and they'll send you home. You're welcome. ...but then again, you really SHOULD go to jury duty. Because if you don't want to go, KAREN always does. So, yunno. Forget everything I just wrote, bite the bullet and do your civic duty so some poor schmuck doesn't get sent to prison because Karen nagged the rest of the jury to find him guilty.
I had jury duty two weeks ago. Waiting for jury selection, we all waited until 5pm, then let us all go. If it wasnt for android games, I woulda went nuts.
All that time he's writing his vote, not one of the other eleven thinks to point out that there is no longer any point in him writing his answer because everyone knows that whatever they hear next will be his. They deserve to be made to wait!
6:00 -- "It's customary to start off with a preliminary vote. ... Any objections?" YES. Once you have stated your opinion--even a tentative one--it is more difficult to see things objectively. No one has a totally open mind, but stating your current opinion closes your mind a little bit more. That's a terrible way to start a jury deliberation.
That is but your opinion and not a fact. One can retain an open mind and provide a current opinion. Such a provision does not unquestionably close ones mind by any degree. I disagree with your objectivity -- or the apparent lack thereof. Who sits and deliberates on your biased and prejudicial jury? I will agree your jury choice may be terrible.
@@StuartKlimek I could be wrong, but I think there have been studies done that have shown that simply uttering a statement can, over time, serve to cement a belief of that statement in one's mind. I admit that my assertion is at least as much based on my own observations over a lifetime of 70 years--and is therefore, as you said, my opinion. "One can retain an open mind and provide a current opinion." There are degrees of "openness." What I am saying is not that one's objectivity is destroyed, but rather that it is diminished. And I stand by that opinion. Interestingly, you have made the opposite assertion: "Such a provision does not unquestionably close ones mind by any degree." Which, of course, is your opinion. And you're welcome to it.
The funny thing is, Monk really was not fit to serve. The judge did not believe him and did not see the signs of someone with mental troubles. And then he paid the price with the constant interference LOL!
I just watched the movie, I didn't think I'd cry but here we are, such a awesome end thank you Tony Shalhoub and everyone that made the show ❤ best of luck ❤️
I have always wanted to attend jury duty, but have never been given the honor. Ironically I'm told, the fact that I want to do it would probably disqualify me.
I wonder how many people catch that this episode is based on “12 Angry Men”. Some of the dialogue comes straight from the movie. (It’s also a play I think but I don’t know which came first)
I think everyone notices that. There are numerous shows that use this trope and it is always brought up about it being a riff on 12 angry men. The only people who do not realize this are those who are.young enough to have never encountered it before.
Jury duty: civic responsibility - I'm sure we all have heard people come up with numerous excuses not to serve...we had an Asian lady that has lived in the US for over 10 years tell a judge that she didn't know what a gun is..... they sent her back to the jury pool...lol
One time at jury duty for a case of an assault of an officer, the defense counsel asked everybody “are you going to believe the word of a police officer just because he is a police officer”. I was one of the last ones to answer the question so I had a lot of time to weigh my options. My response was “absolutely, why would he lie?”. I was relieved from jury duty with the 1st group released like 10 minutes later.
I think he would have been excused from jury duty, if he said he was a police officer, and is now, a police consultant; and would find it hard to be impartial.. On the other hand: "very well Mr. monk, you will serve on a civil case
He also panics under pressure. There’s an episode where he needed to pass a fitness test but he was nervous and seemed unfit but he “passed” it when he was chasing the bad guy.
@rineyairy1067 You can say what you want about Adrian, but when it comes to actually helping someone he knows, he always overcomes his mental issues, and comes through!!! Remember when Natalie was in trouble at the recycling center, and Monk came there, even being sick, and saved her!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯
I always wondered why Monk needed an assistant instead of just carrying his own wipes. My theory is that he just wanted a reason to have female companionship; he was lonely.
This is actually explained either in the show or the audiobooks. Basically he can only carry a small number of stuff in his pockets because the more stuff is carried the more likely they'll get disorganized and his OCD would force him to reorganize his pockets every time. I think he carries exactly one item per pocket or something like that.
It’s not just the wipes. He doesn’t drive. He needs constant reassurance. He can’t focus when he’s overwhelmed. He can’t always communicate his needs etc
@@brandonpayne2877 It's really difficult to explain how OCD affects the brain and it's difficult for regular people to understand as well. That's true of many mental illnesses and is a source of frustration for sufferers as one will so often hear, "Well, why don't you just...." It doesn't work like that.
Not true, only ineligible if they're still in that profession, if they retire or leave that job for any reason, they have to do Jury Duty just like everyone else
I loved Monk, but the entire premise of the show was false, like 90% of his cases throughout the show they could easily get away with the murder if they don't admit to it and get a lawyer. Obviously we know he's right but usually he solved it by piecing together small details he noticed throughout. Sounds great but that relies on the jury coming to the same conclusion. Spoiler alert if you haven't seen the last movie. Basically the guy used a tape measure to kill a guy and killed the guy that switched the tape measures. There's no way to prove that he had anything to do with that. Maybe killing the second guy since they could match the handwriting but no way that he did it to cover up the first murder.
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Ironically, he's the most trustworthy of the bunch.
This was one of my favorite episodes...Monk irritating the other jurors then saving the day by alerting Natalie that something was amiss in the jury room. A comic version of 12 Angry Men!
A judge? Telling a member of a jury….in a courtroom that nobody likes a tattle tale…..
Bahaha
0:10 I love the fact that Monk isn’t unwilling to serve his country. He’s just dreading having to shower with other people 😂🇺🇸
"Don't get me wrong, it's a great system, it really is the best justice system in the world. I just don't want to be a part of it."
"What if everybody felt that way?"
"Everybody DOES."
One of my favorite lines in all of fiction.
That line was not in the original script, that was his personal opinion.
My mother is not a fan of jury duty at all
I wonder how many people let the fact they were forced to attend jury duty influence their decisions?
"Mr Whitaker, we have the defendant on video beheading three people, a dozen witnesses showing he held up a bank, a signed confession that he later recanted...and your still saying he is not guilty?"
"Yes your honor, I think the defense made an excellent case....and I'm hoping this proves I should never be chosen for jury duty again"
I don't think a judge would like that. Because of not wanting to be there there must be a lot of pressure to go along with the majority.
Yeah, that's not how it works. If you just want to get home quickly, you vote whatever the majority votes and don't take part in group discussions. And in a case like that, the majority would go guilty, so by you going against it just to never be called to jury duty again (which is NOT how that works, the assignment is random), you are actually making the case drag on for longer, shooting yourself in your own foot.
...plus, if you say you think the defendant is non-guilty, REGARDLESS OF EVIDENCE, you are allowed to do that. It's called "Jury Nullification" and means that a jury can decide to IGNORE the law when they decide on their verdict. ...though if the case is obvious, there will obviously be an appeal to a higher court. Though that again is tricky, since the case has to be overturned on something OTHER than the jury verdict, because the jury verdict can't be appealed directly and you'll instead need to prove the jury has been influenced in some way.
And if you've read the above two paragraphs, congratulations, you have just been influenced. Me telling you about Jury Nullifaction means no lawyer wants you on their case. So during the initial questioning, just state that you know and are willing to implement jury nullification, and they'll send you home. You're welcome.
...but then again, you really SHOULD go to jury duty. Because if you don't want to go, KAREN always does. So, yunno. Forget everything I just wrote, bite the bullet and do your civic duty so some poor schmuck doesn't get sent to prison because Karen nagged the rest of the jury to find him guilty.
I had jury duty two weeks ago. Waiting for jury selection, we all waited until 5pm, then let us all go. If it wasnt for android games, I woulda went nuts.
All that time he's writing his vote, not one of the other eleven thinks to point out that there is no longer any point in him writing his answer because everyone knows that whatever they hear next will be his.
They deserve to be made to wait!
6:00 -- "It's customary to start off with a preliminary vote. ... Any objections?"
YES.
Once you have stated your opinion--even a tentative one--it is more difficult to see things objectively.
No one has a totally open mind, but stating your current opinion closes your mind a little bit more. That's a terrible way to start a jury deliberation.
That is but your opinion and not a fact. One can retain an open mind and provide a current opinion. Such a provision does not unquestionably close ones mind by any degree. I disagree with your objectivity -- or the apparent lack thereof. Who sits and deliberates on your biased and prejudicial jury? I will agree your jury choice may be terrible.
@@StuartKlimek I could be wrong, but I think there have been studies done that have shown that simply uttering a statement can, over time, serve to cement a belief of that statement in one's mind.
I admit that my assertion is at least as much based on my own observations over a lifetime of 70 years--and is therefore, as you said, my opinion.
"One can retain an open mind and provide a current opinion." There are degrees of "openness." What I am saying is not that one's objectivity is destroyed, but rather that it is diminished. And I stand by that opinion.
Interestingly, you have made the opposite assertion: "Such a provision does not unquestionably close ones mind by any degree." Which, of course, is your opinion. And you're welcome to it.
What was your name ? Before it was stolen
@@Aakash-pc7kz It's been so long, I don't remember. But I think the word "Pegasus" was in it.
@@RUclipsallowedmynametobestolen Sorry to hear that
me too monk, me too. This was a fun episode, the whole thing with the blinds was always funny.
😂 the whole episode was funny
I used to work for the police department “Get out!”
The funny thing is, Monk really was not fit to serve. The judge did not believe him and did not see the signs of someone with mental troubles.
And then he paid the price with the constant interference LOL!
Lol the scene "No Id" No Idea?" NO, I, D, " "No Idea?" NO ID!!!" "NO IDEA?"
He actively works with law enforcement, he would never get picked lol
I had a history teacher who doesn’t get picked for jury because he taught aspects of government.
@HardcoreLevelingBaka the one time I ever went, they let me leave as ssoj as I mentioned I have a criminal justice degree lol. It's wild
Why didn't they state his OCD was a reason for him not wanting to do those things like sharing a bathroom or eating the food?
Yup.
But we're glad they didn't, because then we would have had one less episode of Monk.
Because the show almost never explicitly says he has OCD. Possibly because it's not exactly the most accurate portrayal.
because at the time the show aired, nobody would consider OCD an excuse that you couldn't just get over
Yeah I think ocd wasn’t taken as seriously back then as it is now. Plus he wasn’t always the best communicator 😂 he kinda just rambled
Also no one ever believes Monk at first 😂 he’s THAT strange and bizarre and tbh if I met someone like him I’d think he was just a weirdo too
In the real world, he could just say he used to be a cop.
Since he works with the police, he would not be allowed on a jury.
He do not an official police anymore
@ultmewtwo But he DOES Consult with them on murder cases!
And technically, he is out on disability, IIRC.
The *Judge* saying no1 likes a tattletale, to a *juror* !!!!!
I just watched the movie, I didn't think I'd cry but here we are, such a awesome end thank you Tony Shalhoub and everyone that made the show ❤ best of luck ❤️
I loved the Leland finding true happiness the most in finale .
Jury Duty is the worst system in the world, letting incompetent morons decide someone fate based on how well can each lawyer convince them
That’s not how you take an anonymous vote.
Monk prepared us for pandemic
Even Monk knew masks were useless.
Not really...🤔
No one was prepared for the tRump administration to allow hundreds of thousands of people dying from COVID 19, were they.... Hmmmmmm
Ironically he would be put in intelligence as a analyst
I have always wanted to attend jury duty, but have never been given the honor. Ironically I'm told, the fact that I want to do it would probably disqualify me.
comedy and crime the best 😂
6:57 That girl with the black hair: I'm ALMOST POSITIVE she was in the "Trick or Treat" episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
thoroughly enjoyed the 12 Angry Men references
The Judge is well spoken.
I wonder how many people catch that this episode is based on “12 Angry Men”. Some of the dialogue comes straight from the movie. (It’s also a play I think but I don’t know which came first)
I knew it I wasn’t the only one!
I think everyone notices that. There are numerous shows that use this trope and it is always brought up about it being a riff on 12 angry men. The only people who do not realize this are those who are.young enough to have never encountered it before.
1:20 Like a group of loyal citizens awaiting execution.
Jury duty: civic responsibility - I'm sure we all have heard people come up with numerous excuses not to serve...we had an Asian lady that has lived in the US for over 10 years tell a judge
that she didn't know what a gun is..... they sent her back to the jury pool...lol
All that coughing and grossness. 😩
The irony:trying to be anonymous in voting "guilty" or "not guilty, only to be the vote known by everyone. 🤦🏾♂️
😆 oh Adrian, i find him HILLLLAAARIOUS
Clyde Kusatsu, that guys done everything!
One time at jury duty for a case of an assault of an officer, the defense counsel asked everybody “are you going to believe the word of a police officer just because he is a police officer”. I was one of the last ones to answer the question so I had a lot of time to weigh my options. My response was “absolutely, why would he lie?”. I was relieved from jury duty with the 1st group released like 10 minutes later.
I don't know why Monk wanted back on the force. With his ability as an investigator, he could make WAY more money doing what he does than as a cop.
I think he would have been excused from jury duty, if he said he was a police officer, and is now, a police consultant; and would find it hard to be impartial.. On the other hand: "very well Mr. monk, you will serve on a civil case
Funny episode
How did monk pass his police training course ?
He wasn't this bad when Trudy was alive.
He also panics under pressure. There’s an episode where he needed to pass a fitness test but he was nervous and seemed unfit but he “passed” it when he was chasing the bad guy.
@rineyairy1067 You can say what you want about Adrian, but when it comes to actually helping someone he knows, he always overcomes his mental issues, and comes through!!! Remember when Natalie was in trouble at the recycling center, and Monk came there, even being sick, and saved her!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯
how can someone be on a few juries, i thought once u get picked once u r immune for a long period of time
❤ Clyde Kusatsu!
I always wondered why Monk needed an assistant instead of just carrying his own wipes.
My theory is that he just wanted a reason to have female companionship; he was lonely.
No, there are reasons that only make sense to the person with OCD as to why things are done a specific way.
This is actually explained either in the show or the audiobooks. Basically he can only carry a small number of stuff in his pockets because the more stuff is carried the more likely they'll get disorganized and his OCD would force him to reorganize his pockets every time. I think he carries exactly one item per pocket or something like that.
Better yet, why not just wear gloves?
It’s not just the wipes. He doesn’t drive. He needs constant reassurance. He can’t focus when he’s overwhelmed. He can’t always communicate his needs etc
@@brandonpayne2877 It's really difficult to explain how OCD affects the brain and it's difficult for regular people to understand as well. That's true of many mental illnesses and is a source of frustration for sufferers as one will so often hear, "Well, why don't you just...." It doesn't work like that.
But can we take a moment to think about Monk being drafted?
Is this put up by the owners of the show? It does make me want to buy the CD set.
The premise is false, Police Officers or former Police Officers, like Lawyers, are ineligible for Jury Duty, they are exempt.
Not true, only ineligible if they're still in that profession, if they retire or leave that job for any reason, they have to do Jury Duty just like everyone else
@@jeandonaghue2150 different in my neck of the woods, once disqualified, disqualified for life
@anthonyburke5656 If your neck of the woods is outside the UK, then that may be
@@jeandonaghue2150 australia
I loved Monk, but the entire premise of the show was false, like 90% of his cases throughout the show they could easily get away with the murder if they don't admit to it and get a lawyer. Obviously we know he's right but usually he solved it by piecing together small details he noticed throughout. Sounds great but that relies on the jury coming to the same conclusion.
Spoiler alert if you haven't seen the last movie. Basically the guy used a tape measure to kill a guy and killed the guy that switched the tape measures. There's no way to prove that he had anything to do with that. Maybe killing the second guy since they could match the handwriting but no way that he did it to cover up the first murder.
8:03 the drug lord girlfriend look
It's Benito Martinez from The Shield
How Can Anyone not Adore Monk?
I bet all the letters had the name "Adrian Monk" in it
I would love to see the entire episode. Not cut up in parts. Come on.
They should have finished this one
wouldnt of his misses went not guilty too duud
i meant duh
It is times like these that Monks irritates me the most
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