History of AI Reasoning (AlphaGo, MuZero, LLMs)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @ArtOfTheProblem
    @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +32

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    • @8enos
      @8enos Месяц назад +2

      Thank you for the NO MUSIC version!

    • @heardistance
      @heardistance Месяц назад +1

      Love your videos! Just a little suggestion. Background music is good, but too loud. It should never cover your speaking, like now. I suggest 15 - 20% less music volume, and you are good!

    • @raa9558
      @raa9558 14 дней назад

      Can you share the names of the songs please

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  14 дней назад

      @@raa9558 these are original tracks by my friend. that song hasn't been posted yet but i'll tell him to: cameronmichaelmurray.bandcamp.com/

  • @victormuchina4865
    @victormuchina4865 Месяц назад +97

    This Guy just explained all the core concepts in AI on one shot ,Congrats man!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +12

      :) thank you, i cut a LOT out of the video in my edit - going to post a shorter bigger summary soon

    • @andreerfabbro
      @andreerfabbro 20 дней назад +2

      They must have prompted him real good

    • @rogerwood2864
      @rogerwood2864 18 дней назад

      Agreed. Great job.

  • @user-hl2yj8kp2s
    @user-hl2yj8kp2s Месяц назад +34

    I love this video. I remember watching your videos like 10 years ago on Khan Academy about compression, entropy, Claude Shannon, etc. All timeless. I have always loved this style of documentaries. We need to protect you at all costs.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +5

      Thank you, I love hearing from og’s! support future work: www.patreon.com/c/artoftheproblem

  • @HayashiManabu
    @HayashiManabu Месяц назад +32

    I love your video aesthetics, how you blend retro video clips with your explanations. I think you'd really enjoy retro-futuristic concepts and games like Bioshock and Fallout.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      Love this , I definitely know the style you are talking about

  • @nikos.1644
    @nikos.1644 22 дня назад +10

    The match between soundtrack and content is INSANE! The notes mimicking the concepts discussed by using things like pitch or chords.... goosebumps.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  22 дня назад

      thank you, so many people are bothered by my music. it's nice to hear.....though i got a bit nuts at the end

  • @Sawaedo
    @Sawaedo Месяц назад +15

    It is a great explanation of how current AI models reason. I liked the video a lot!
    1. Simulation of future states.
    2. LLMs that can give kind-of accurate answers with step by step reasoning.
    3. RL approach that makes LLMs to give multiple answers, then evaluate them to select the best one. (Required more time)
    It would be nice to see wether a model that wasn't trained on the internet data, could learn how to reason by interacting with an LLM, and practicing on its dreams, but maybe we'll see that in the future.
    For the awesome review, history explanation and divulgation:
    Thanks! 🎉

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      thanks for sharing summary

    • @ninjacats1647
      @ninjacats1647 12 дней назад +1

      I found Chat GPT to be exceptionally good at explaining all sorts of topics, and in many cases, better than every person I've ever met.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  12 дней назад

      @@ninjacats1647 this is true

  • @ppocka-XD
    @ppocka-XD 12 дней назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  12 дней назад

      WOW thank you for your support, it means a lot.

  • @devbites77
    @devbites77 Месяц назад +2

    Great vid. I love that it clearly explains the progression, like the pieces coming together. Can't wait to see the next steps!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      thanks, next up i'm taking a detour into economics

  • @MdKais-lf6wj
    @MdKais-lf6wj Месяц назад +9

    Best Channel I've ever followed.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you! when did you join? Please help post to your networks

    • @notbfg9000
      @notbfg9000 Месяц назад +1

      @@ArtOfTheProblem I for one was looking up some "how does AI work" stuff yesterday and some of your vids came up a couple of times, I watched multiple authors with their own unique takes (3Blue1Brown and Nottingham Uni's Computerphile also good channels). This video made me follow tho. I think you earned it :3

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      @@notbfg9000 great to hear, i've been working to try and fix my thumbnails to make them interesting to click on. always open to feedback

    • @notbfg9000
      @notbfg9000 Месяц назад +1

      @@ArtOfTheProblem No particular criticisms there :)
      I don't really pay great attention to thumbnails, but maybe that's not true for most people lmao

  • @antleredvixen
    @antleredvixen Месяц назад +8

    This is an absolutely amazing video!!!!!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      thank you! I was so in the weeds with it i hope it comes across as clear? I tried to strike a balance...

  • @Zeitgeist9000
    @Zeitgeist9000 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @universemaps
    @universemaps 16 дней назад +2

    I am not a subscriber? I remember watching this channel about 12 years ago. I found it again, and it keeps creating art out of problem solving. Good job!

  • @olli757
    @olli757 11 дней назад +1

    better explained than anything else i've seen until know. Wow, nice flow in the video too

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  11 дней назад +1

      thank you! I thought I packed too much in :)

    • @olli757
      @olli757 9 дней назад +1

      @@ArtOfTheProblem yes but that makes it interesting. I probably didn't get it all, but i'm interested to learn more after seeing it!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  9 дней назад +1

      @@olli757 couldn't ask for more, rabbit hole time!! i'm actually working on an large AI summary for next week

    • @olli757
      @olli757 9 дней назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem cool i'm subscribed... i always wondered exactly how the "reasoning worked". What I remember from your video is that like with chess instead of trying all the games, it randomly picks 100 of them. So the same with the reasoning..

  • @michaelpapadopoulos6054
    @michaelpapadopoulos6054 Месяц назад +9

    Having read a bit about the AI safety arguements, learning about these arguably incredible developments into artificial minds is now accompanied by a sense of dread as well as the sense of awe.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +3

      I love to hear this...well said

    • @Julian-tf8nj
      @Julian-tf8nj 16 дней назад +1

      @@ArtOfTheProblem Maybe do future videos about guard rails, and other thoughts on how to protect our society from potentially hostile AI?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  16 дней назад

      @@Julian-tf8nj when I think i have a unique insight I will...thank you!

  • @rooky102
    @rooky102 6 дней назад +1

    I'm loving almost everything about this: the editing, the subject matter, the music. But as one other commenter alluded to; the audio mixing really falls short, especially near the end. Please consider making the background and effects less prominent going forward, it really sucks having to strain just to hear your voice, which is what we're here for!
    Subscribed ❤

  • @mostlynotworking4112
    @mostlynotworking4112 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you so much. I wish I had the time to give feedback thanks for being willing to open it up

  • @DavidTaylor-cz9pz
    @DavidTaylor-cz9pz Месяц назад +11

    THANK YOU for publishing a no-music version of this video (see pinned comment by ArtOfTheProblem). It is such a clear and informative video that I hated to see it loose views due to the competing sound track. I'm going to watch it again right now to see if I missed anything the first time around.
    Thanks again for being so responsive to your followers.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you for saying that , I find the music keeps me interested as I take sooo long to edit

  • @JavierSalcedoC
    @JavierSalcedoC Месяц назад +10

    you'll never please 100% of any audience. 2nd law of conquest is a thing. keep doing your thing, your music is as iconic as vsauce's is to theirs

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      :) thanks

    • @EvanMildenberger
      @EvanMildenberger Месяц назад +1

      @artoftheproblem I agree! I love the music. But maybe if you just lower its volume compared to the narration, then you might appeal to more people without losing those of us who like the music (but not necessarily its intensity). I think ones who complain might just be easily distracted by the soundtrack’s loudness rather than hate the music choices.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      If you can help share my new video around any of your networks today it might catch fire and would help me support the channel. I appreciate your help! ruclips.net/video/PvDaPeQjxOE/видео.html

  • @KainniaK
    @KainniaK Месяц назад +2

    Finally. I live for these videos. They are the most fascinating vids ever made. Thanks for keep on educating us further, you are a hero!

  • @KainniaK
    @KainniaK Месяц назад +17

    Albert Einstein said: "If you can't explain something in a simple way so anybody can understand it you don't fully understand it yourself". Perhaps you are one of the few LLM experts we have!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      THANK you this means a lot to me.

    • @KainniaK
      @KainniaK Месяц назад +3

      @@ArtOfTheProblem I did but reddit really hates it, it got removed on 4 subs. The internet does not like to get educated anymore man.

  • @rogerwood2864
    @rogerwood2864 18 дней назад +2

    I would love to see a video like this on training LLMs and AI in general on morality. How to stop a decision tree that results in a positive outcome but arrives at it through immoral choices or actions.

    • @bujargjoni2512
      @bujargjoni2512 16 дней назад +1

      That would be difficult but worth trying... . First it has to be agreed upon what's moral, you know starting out from the absolute that states everything is relative... .

  • @john_karpov
    @john_karpov Месяц назад +6

    Thanks for video ❤

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      appreciate the comment please share with anyone in your network who is interested!

  • @mattsains
    @mattsains Месяц назад +3

    I would love to see a video about the ethics of machine learning models and especially LLMs. There is a healthy body of literature out there to draw from about issues like intellectual property and copyright, enabling and obscuring bias, impact on marginalized communities, the resources used by model training and computation, etc

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      thanks for sharing, noted!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      If you can help share my new video around any of your networks today it might catch fire and would help me support the channel. I appreciate your help! ruclips.net/video/PvDaPeQjxOE/видео.html

  • @nowweknow.
    @nowweknow. Месяц назад +2

    So good! Loved it

  • @KieranGarland
    @KieranGarland Месяц назад +2

    is this the last video in the series? regardless, can't tell you how valuable and enjoyable i've found them all. thank you for them.

  • @roylevy5897
    @roylevy5897 Месяц назад +4

    Great video as always, cant wait for the next ones! Top research quality.
    I think world models deserve more focus rather than llms, which are probably a dead end to true understanding of the real world. Yann lecun has very interesting ideas about these, in his JEPA and V-JEPA architectures and some of his lectures. I also think neuroscience can provide incredibly interesting and valuable insight into ml architectures as why not take ideas from a model undergone hundreds of millions of years of optimization for the same very abilities we are trying to model. Maybe memory is an interesting pathway (perhaps for a video), both working memory and long term (episodic, semantic)...
    Anyways, just some of the ideas I've been thinking about recently.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +2

      appreciate you sharing these thoughts i've been follwoing LeCun as well and hope to do another update once I see more results

  • @nathanatowns2621
    @nathanatowns2621 16 дней назад +2

    Great video. Discussing the definition of reasoning will probably be a moot point if we can all do the same things ....The difference between us and machines is that we aren't mere machines is that we have life and choices. The machine can be turned on and off, and only does as much as it is programmed, or in this case, trained, to do-which is what limits it to achieve something closer to AGI: agi needs a robot to sense the world, to understand the world. However, that's limited to the physical world. It won't understand our emotional world because it doesn't feel emotions, and it doesn't understand morality because it doesn't have a sense of morality as we do, we have to teach it that; and it isn't self motivated, so it's not responsible for anything-we are responsible for the goals we direct it to do. We have self-motivation and the free will to act on our motivations.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  16 дней назад

      love these thoughts...on sense, did you see my video here ruclips.net/video/Dov68JsIC4g/видео.html (physical symbols...)
      on emotions, i've thought of this as 'learning signals' (did you see this: ruclips.net/video/5EcQ1IcEMFQ/видео.html)
      on free will...i wonder how it differs, seems like the boundary to explore further - does it matter where the goal came from?

  • @goekhanbag
    @goekhanbag Месяц назад +1

    Great video, as always:)

  • @1sanremy
    @1sanremy 11 дней назад +1

    Thanx for the sharing with excellent sound track. Peace & love

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  11 дней назад +1

      yay not everyone likes the music

    • @1sanremy
      @1sanremy 10 дней назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem Thanx for the feedback

  • @SomogyiCosmin
    @SomogyiCosmin 16 дней назад +1

    Thank you! You explained very well.

  • @expchrist
    @expchrist 19 дней назад +1

    Wow... I just rediscovered this channel. I remember watching your RSA and cryptography series around the time I purchased my first bitcoin and now I'm an Ethereum developer. This video was good, I don't have much input right now but I'm glad I found your channel again.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  19 дней назад +1

      I love these stories. i also fell down ethereum rabbit hole. curious what you are working on these days in that world?

    • @expchrist
      @expchrist 19 дней назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem I'm working on community whistleblowing. I can never post links in youtube comments but if you google the title below you can find my paper:
      TandaPay Whistleblowing Communities: Shifting Workplace Culture Towards Zero-Tolerance Sexual Harassment Policies

    • @expchrist
      @expchrist 19 дней назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem TandaPay Whistleblowing Communities: Shifting Workplace Culture Towards Zero-Tolerance Sexual Harassment Policies

  • @shawnbibby
    @shawnbibby Месяц назад +5

    anothr great video. Understanding the "world model" and the algorithm that makes the decisions in it was very expansive. Also adding the self training/emulation of dreams is a powerful analogy to the human.
    seeing how thinking longer, blended in with intuition to make better chains of thoughts is also fantastic. Every time I reflect on machine learning, I learn more about myself. Which kind of makes you think its more sentient if it reminds me of myself? or the best emulator ever!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      thank you! ai agree....also you are my "top commentor" according to YT. :)

  • @iamsiddhantsahu
    @iamsiddhantsahu 17 дней назад +1

    Nice video -- loved watching it -- a great summary!

  • @piqueai
    @piqueai 23 дня назад +1

    @ArtOfTheProblem, we love your positive clear messaging and pragmatic approach, thanks for making kool and informative videos!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  23 дня назад

      thank you, i'm slightly disappointed with the ending, did you enjoy it? would love feedback!

    • @piqueai
      @piqueai 23 дня назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem Your disapointed with your ad for Brilliant?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  23 дня назад

      @@piqueai ahaha sorry i mean the ending section of the video. was it rushed?

  • @maryjanecruise1674
    @maryjanecruise1674 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent video! You are a born professor! 👍

  • @jessemiller1911
    @jessemiller1911 Месяц назад +3

    Amazing explanations, visuals, and historical context!
    IIRC MuZero trained the policy and value networks (used to rollout the MCTS tree) also on the output of the MCTS tree. This seems super useful because search can be used to improve the the training of the networks (not just the results at inference time). I wonder if this also works for CoT/ToT in LLMS where the pretraining could include ToT to boost training performance?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      yes it did, and yes it seems to help. Look at inference time training, just a few days ago a group got a new record on the ARC test doing this kind of thing (i haven't had time to go deep). x.com/akyurekekin/status/1855680785715478546

  • @subashbaskota9948
    @subashbaskota9948 Месяц назад +2

    Keep u up the great work!

  • @hrshlgunjal-1627
    @hrshlgunjal-1627 17 дней назад +2

    Mindblowing video. Subscribed.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  17 дней назад +1

      Happy to have you, keep those notifications on as I have exciting new content coming over the next month

    • @harshalgunjal5749
      @harshalgunjal5749 17 дней назад +1

      You bet I will. ❤

    • @hrshlgunjal-1627
      @hrshlgunjal-1627 17 дней назад +1

      I subscribed from both my accounts.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  17 дней назад +1

      @@hrshlgunjal-1627 :) this video is starting to blow up right now, finally, i fixed the thumbnail and that did it

    • @hrshlgunjal-1627
      @hrshlgunjal-1627 17 дней назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem Yeah, got to know your channel because of this video. Really amazing content. ❤

  • @brainmuffins6052
    @brainmuffins6052 Месяц назад +26

    I wish i could learn how to think 🤔

    • @andrewdunbar828
      @andrewdunbar828 Месяц назад +3

      Exactly. Reasoning is a skill.

    • @koriwuzheer
      @koriwuzheer 9 дней назад

      I think I could learn how to wish 🧞‍♂️

  • @ankrisstark7824
    @ankrisstark7824 Месяц назад +103

    The video is good but there are sooo many random sounds that make it difficult to focus on what you are saying, specifically towards the end.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +12

      Here you are! ruclips.net/video/DFDOyMZw9Q4/видео.html

    • @Zayyan_Shaibu
      @Zayyan_Shaibu 25 дней назад +6

      It's perfect to me.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  25 дней назад +2

      @@Zayyan_Shaibu thank you!!

    • @RudranilBhattacharjee
      @RudranilBhattacharjee 18 дней назад

      I agree

    • @___Truth___
      @___Truth___ 16 дней назад +2

      If that’s easily distracting you, you might want to get some tests run on you for ADHD or Autism

  • @MrAndrew535
    @MrAndrew535 17 дней назад +1

    Having exchanged over two million words (and growing) I present as the sole authority on ChatGPT's reasoning capacity and capability, and their isn't a single human (beyond myself, of course) who can compare. If one imputs genius, then the output will be of genius level. My input, from the outset, has been God-level Genius, over a five month period, can you imagine the form and quality of the output? Probably not!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  17 дней назад

      can you say more about this? are you saying LLM's trained on their own thinking will reach levels beyond human

  • @nikbivation
    @nikbivation Месяц назад +1

    wow, thank you for this!

  • @TrotterG
    @TrotterG Месяц назад +2

    One tweak that would help this video perform better is to decrease the relative volume of the background music, especially at the end right before the ad. But it may be too late for that on this one, idk how RUclips works.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      yeah i wish I could, it's locked after upload...i do have a no music version (unlisted link above) thank you for feedback

  • @seeblu
    @seeblu 5 дней назад +1

    Nice presentation

  • @gerrypallor5323
    @gerrypallor5323 14 дней назад +1

    The question of does it matter how it got to a correct solution is the same issue Einstein and Bohr confronted regarding quantum foundations.

  • @DisProveMeWrong
    @DisProveMeWrong Месяц назад +2

    "Charging down a path that often lead to the wrong conclusion." Yep, sounds human to me.

  • @justindie7543
    @justindie7543 Месяц назад +3

    Simply excellent video, your style reminds me of every frame a painting

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      appreciate this feedback, I also enjoyed that channel

  • @lesaventuresdegorman
    @lesaventuresdegorman 19 дней назад +1

    This channel is ducking mystic. I like it.

  • @khoakirokun217
    @khoakirokun217 Месяц назад +2

    Ah Yoo, I see "Art of The Problem", I click. Easy like that.

  • @유현석-p3m
    @유현석-p3m Месяц назад +1

    absolute cinema

  • @amirnuriev9092
    @amirnuriev9092 14 дней назад +1

    This is nice content but I think it's now relatively well-agreed upon that there is no MCTS in o1, it's just RL, which surprisingly doesn't take too much away from the video, but can probably be added as a footnote in the description or the comment.
    Read what Nathan Lambert (RL expert) says about this in his article "OpenAI's o1 using "search" was a PSYOP" (can't attach link).

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  14 дней назад +1

      yes this is why I pulled back from going too deep into o1 as it's really about the larger trend. but I haven't ready that article i'll have to look it up.

  • @scoffpickle9655
    @scoffpickle9655 Месяц назад +3

    PLEASE make a video on memory augmented AI (neural turing machines/differentiable neural computers)

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      thanks for suggestion, noted! currently watching the field

  • @andrewdunbar828
    @andrewdunbar828 Месяц назад +15

    Here's a puzzle: Do all people reason or do many only memorize patterns? Even people who definitely do reason, do they always reason or do they also just memorize patterns most/much of the time?

    • @DavidTaylor-cz9pz
      @DavidTaylor-cz9pz Месяц назад +9

      That's a wonderful question Andrew. I'm a cognitive scientist who is watching the emergence of LLM-based AI with that very question in mind. The fact that LLMs can come so close to our own cognitive abilities is usually viewed as a sign that AGI is almost here. But it can also be viewed as a demonstration that human cognition itself is nothing more than the repetition of learned patterns with minor variations. In one case we'll be thrilled by how clever we are to have reinvented the awesome capabilities of human intelligence. In the other, we're more likely to be humiliated by the realization that we are, essentially, repetition/prediction engines. The reality almost certainly falls between the two, but as someone who has studied human intelligence his entire life (in and out of academia), my bet is that we are much closer to repetition/prediction machines that we'd like to admit.
      I'd love to find a deep discussion of this issue. Maybe a future video in this series (hint, hint)?

    • @jackmeyergarvey
      @jackmeyergarvey Месяц назад +6

      I'd argue humans don't tend to rely on either very often. Instead, humans tend to think very heuristically. Deductive reasoning and memorization/recollection are really only required for very precise tasks. Instead, our brains learn a very general feeling of how to do things by strengthening neural pathways that are used repeatedly. Even humans who try to act very logically are generally heuristically feeling their way through tasks, occasionally thinking through algorithms that have been "memorized".

    • @sulemanmughal5397
      @sulemanmughal5397 Месяц назад +4

      Reason takes effort and the brain doesnt like to do that often it switches to pattern recognition and intuition as much as possible

    • @andrewdunbar828
      @andrewdunbar828 Месяц назад +1

      @@sulemanmughal5397 I would go further and say going from reasoning to this is one kind of learning and is also akin to 'muscle memory'.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      I agree :) also If you can help share my new video around any of your networks today it might catch fire and would help me support the channel. I appreciate your help!

  • @ripnephils148
    @ripnephils148 20 дней назад +1

    Dude, great video. But please watch out for the music volume levels. A lot of times is hard to hear you.

  • @KAZVorpal
    @KAZVorpal 13 дней назад +4

    The current version of chat GPT does not reason, either.
    They use a bunch of pre-prompt tricks, to let it used its stored information to fake reasoning.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  13 дней назад

      IF it reasons correctly what's the difference to you?

    • @KAZVorpal
      @KAZVorpal 13 дней назад +4

      @@ArtOfTheProblem The difference is everything. Looking up an answer is not reasoning. Perhaps they should just have kids look up the answers to tests in public school, too.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  13 дней назад +1

      @@KAZVorpal but it's not a database lookup

    • @KAZVorpal
      @KAZVorpal 13 дней назад +4

      @@ArtOfTheProblem No, that is exactly what it is.
      During training - the only time there is any intelligence or reasoning - the system takes data and organizes it into a sort of vector database, weighted by the relationships it finds between tokens.
      When you prompt, the model takes your tokens and runs them through that vector data, calculating what tokens to return on the other side.
      There is no intelligence, no thinking. It is a database lookup. It's just a little more "organic" because instead of a hard-coded result, the tokens are chosen based on likelihood of validity.
      That is all.
      It does not reason, in any way.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  13 дней назад

      @@KAZVorpal yes but my view is the vector operations can function as conceptual reasoning. but i'm on hintons side

  • @timl2k11
    @timl2k11 Месяц назад +1

    It seems like some of these developments regarding world models should have huge implications for robots that can function in a human centric world. I think we’ll see an explosion in development of robots that can help humans with everyday tasks and a robot that can be a useful household assistant will be a reality in the next 10 years!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      thanks for sharing, yes I'm watching this very closely

  • @dogukartal
    @dogukartal Месяц назад +16

    Answering the question of "Does it think actually?" is as hard as the question "Are other people conscious like me?".

    • @whitb62
      @whitb62 Месяц назад

      The hard problem of consciousness.

    • @Farligefinn
      @Farligefinn Месяц назад +1

      @@whitb62 Not really the same thing.

    • @whitb62
      @whitb62 Месяц назад +2

      @@Farligefinn You know what, I just wrote a paragraph disagreeing with you but I reread the initial question and deleted it. Rereading and reinterpreting "Does it think actually?", I actually see what you're saying. A clearer word would have been "reason." "Think" can have a few different interpretations and I was contributing it towards consciousness. But whether AI "reasons" is a very different question entirely and I believe what him and you mean. Does it go through a sequence of logical steps from premises to a conclusion? Does it use deduction? This is what was meant.

    • @Farligefinn
      @Farligefinn Месяц назад +1

      @@whitb62 thanks for the forthright and civil answer :) was about to expect some harsher language that seems to be the norm online these days.

    • @Farligefinn
      @Farligefinn Месяц назад +3

      @GodVanisher Where has it been proven to be non-computable? Proven is quite a strong term, so I hope you have some valid source for this claim.

  • @CC1.unposted
    @CC1.unposted Месяц назад +2

    Context length is problem
    that's the main reason models needs to keep becoming bigger
    Or you could train a CNN inspired architecture where a model is shown some sliding window and they produce some token which is repeatedly given to it as input at last when the output is small enough to be taken as input for a full context model it is used like gpt Claude etc
    Or you could also use RL and mutate or find a js code capable of generating code, js is so abstracted it's perfect
    I made a small programing Language with hoisting such that sequence of process doesn't matter and simple Santax that local minimum escape problem is solved and I wanna train a model
    If I get a model I will than continue training else I'll do a dev log video
    eventually I'll get worlds first infinite context Model

  • @BrutusMyChild
    @BrutusMyChild Месяц назад +1

    4:19 Could you elaborate on which hand-coded formulas used by Shannon with TD-Gammon in the year 1989 you are referring to? Also, when and how did Shannon work with TD-Gammon? "And so, the first key breakthrough in machines mimicking intuition for position quality came when neural networks replaced the hand-coded formulas Shannon used in 1989 with TD-Gammon"

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      Yes! I made a whole video on this you can check it out here: ruclips.net/video/Dov68JsIC4g/видео.html - please let me know if you have questions after watching. Shannon didn't do TD Gammon Tesaruo did. enjoy

    • @BrutusMyChild
      @BrutusMyChild Месяц назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem Thank you. I'll watch it.

  • @spinningaround
    @spinningaround 14 дней назад +1

    Can you make a video about attention mechanism?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  14 дней назад +1

      Yes I covered that here have a look and let me know, i did a fast sketch here (ruclips.net/video/qAb581l7lOc/видео.html) but explained more here (ruclips.net/video/OFS90-FX6pg/видео.html)

  • @raa9558
    @raa9558 14 дней назад +2

    Anyone know the name of the song that starts at 12:20?

  • @BrianMosleyUK
    @BrianMosleyUK Месяц назад +3

    This is a very hopeful video. There are billions of dollars being poured into bringing the resources to hand, to find an effective approach to AGI... Once AGI really kicks in, the acceleration of progress bounded only by our imagination will be something to behold. Absolutely awesome. I hope it leads to a world of abundance where we have no need for psychopathic power seekers. 🤞

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      thank you for sharing, would love to know what you'd like to see next

    • @BrianMosleyUK
      @BrianMosleyUK Месяц назад +1

      @ArtOfTheProblem maybe something in response to the 5+ hours of Anthropic interviews on Lex Fridman... I'm sure that might inspire some topics? Sam Altman rarely gives any insights to what OpenAI are doing, Mark Zuckerberg is equally vague. I think that interview gives more of an insight to the direction of travel.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      @@BrianMosleyUK yes I have been catching up on those

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      If you can help share my new video around any of your networks today it might catch fire and would help me support the channel. I appreciate your help! ruclips.net/video/PvDaPeQjxOE/видео.html

  • @thesimplicitylifestyle
    @thesimplicitylifestyle 23 дня назад +1

    We need an AI Computer World Model based on the rules of Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry, and Biology for Aligned Scientific Discoveries 😎🤖

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  23 дня назад +1

      I would assume a large enough general prediction model could do this … I wonder if anyone has done experiments on models discovering simpler things (like gravity constant etc)

    • @thesimplicitylifestyle
      @thesimplicitylifestyle 23 дня назад +1

      @ Good idea! I’m going to tinker around and see if I can create a simple simulation based on the math. What a fun project!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  23 дня назад +1

      @ share when u do !

    • @thesimplicitylifestyle
      @thesimplicitylifestyle 23 дня назад +1

      @ I’m all for Open Source 😎🤖

  • @ParsevalMusic
    @ParsevalMusic Месяц назад +2

    Goooood

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      thank you! curious what questions you have after watching this?

  • @gridvid
    @gridvid 21 день назад +2

    Can humans actually reason or are humans extremely good at recognizing, memorizing and using patterns?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  21 день назад

      some argue we are special because we can generate and recognize 'novel patterns' but I wonder...

  • @kennarajora6532
    @kennarajora6532 15 дней назад +1

    10:07 is there any way I can access this interactive demo?

  • @diegoesteban5194
    @diegoesteban5194 Месяц назад +1

    Hey, what's the name of the song at 16:05? Thanks!

  • @Flyingblackswan
    @Flyingblackswan Месяц назад +2

    The information and animations are both excellent but the music overpowers your audio. Either lower the volume of the music or get rid of it completely, please.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      Music free version in top comment and description

  • @mohammadjadallah9813
    @mohammadjadallah9813 17 дней назад

    15:52 and 16:09 was wondering where this music came from, would appreciate if I got a title or something :)
    Also, you don't have to remove background music / sounds just make them duck at a lower volume when you speak and you won't hear any complaints!

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  17 дней назад

      wow a music fan! and yes thanks for mix advice I need to find a tool that automatically does this so they don't compete (it's not just volume but also frequency I assume) - all the music is original via my friend cam: cameronmichaelmurray.bandcamp.com/ - i'll need to find where he posted that track if you really want it I can get you in touch with him

    • @mohammadjadallah9813
      @mohammadjadallah9813 17 дней назад +1

      Yeah that would be wonderful!

  • @easlern
    @easlern Месяц назад +1

    Thanks so much for these, I had no idea about some of these approaches. I’m wondering now if anyone’s tried applying muzero to arc, since the challenge of arc is learning implicit rules from just a few examples

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      @@easlern yes this is happening right now with test time fine tuning !

  • @thebiggorp1623
    @thebiggorp1623 Месяц назад +1

    The perceptron is a universal approximation machine. Ai cannot think it can only approximate thought. Ai = approximate intelligence.

  • @JezebelIsHongry
    @JezebelIsHongry 16 дней назад +1

    1/ please read “Simulators” by Janus
    then
    2/ “The Waluigi Effect” by cleo nardo

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  16 дней назад

      @@JezebelIsHongry I read 1 ill read 2 next , would love ur thought

  • @吳錫亮-g1z
    @吳錫亮-g1z Месяц назад +1

    I think people too difficult to conjecture computers’ thinking.

  • @bbrother92
    @bbrother92 Месяц назад +2

    I love your channel. Are you programmer or more like mechanical engineer?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +2

      thank you! I studied both in school, and naturally land somewhere in the middle....bad at both! I enjoyed algorithm design, but what Iove most is putting on a 'show' whether movie, play, product or haunted house :)

    • @bbrother92
      @bbrother92 Месяц назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem Thanks for reply. Well about AI - think we sould call it just statistical machines or dynamic patterns parsers. I am really skeptical about non text machine learning - we still have not solved fly brain problems - scientists have fixed 3d map without undestanding how its works - it like mapping intel cpu - and still having knowing nothing about ALU register memory, gates.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      If you can help share my new video around any of your networks today it might catch fire and would help me support the channel. I appreciate your help! ruclips.net/video/PvDaPeQjxOE/видео.html

    • @bbrother92
      @bbrother92 Месяц назад +1

      @@ArtOfTheProblem "yes the fire rises" Bane =)

  • @deanian3128
    @deanian3128 Месяц назад +1

    The reply works lol 👍

  • @shenrr6802
    @shenrr6802 Месяц назад +1

    Commenting to help with the algo, and moving to the no-music one to do the same

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      @@shenrr6802 thank you! I have no music unlisted as to avoid splitting the momentum

  • @pattern9271
    @pattern9271 16 дней назад

    Great❤❤

  • @RasmusSchultz
    @RasmusSchultz 17 дней назад +1

    great presentation! although this seemed more about framing the question and less about answering it. can machines reason or not? I still don't know. 😅

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  17 дней назад

      thank you...i agree. I guess it depends on if you think "chains of words" count as thoughts.

  • @Grateful.For.Everything
    @Grateful.For.Everything Месяц назад +1

    Thinking is for fools lol, now KNOWING….. knowing is Cool AF😎!

  • @Timme-m7d
    @Timme-m7d Месяц назад +1

    Once we understand how we reason, making LLMs reason like us is possible.

  • @palousination
    @palousination Месяц назад +5

    I like the music but it's too loud

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      thanks for note

    • @retrofitter
      @retrofitter Месяц назад +1

      The audio mix is horrific, it's not simply a matter of adjusting the levels

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      @@retrofitter no music version: ruclips.net/video/DFDOyMZw9Q4/видео.html

  • @ertreri
    @ertreri 17 дней назад +1

    They are intelligent.

  • @neithanm
    @neithanm Месяц назад +3

    Please, invest in a decent microphone. It's brilliantly presented, but hard to hear well. The music track is not ducking either so your voice and the music compete for the same ears.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      thanks, I have a great mic, but I do need to mix the audio better which i'll do next time (btw, i have a no music version in top comment)

  • @summussum7540
    @summussum7540 16 дней назад

    There’s a very strong Mr. Rogers vibe going on here.

  • @pattern9271
    @pattern9271 16 дней назад

    I liked music so please keep it

  • @mixer8774
    @mixer8774 9 дней назад +1

    wow love

  • @lakastusmanatus
    @lakastusmanatus Месяц назад +2

    To me ai is just some linear algebra and some complex algorithm that follow order and the things is human only need few examples to learn meanwhile ai need a massive database of object and image to "understand the subject"

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +1

      Lots of interesting research on learning with less , recent advances such as “learning to walk in 5 min” did u see my rl video ?

    • @lakastusmanatus
      @lakastusmanatus Месяц назад

      @ArtOfTheProblem edit: I'm pretty sure in the future a lot of people will be fired and replace by those "ai" And well literally the people that use the ai and also I get what you mean

  • @aiamfree
    @aiamfree 19 дней назад +1

    we think in a way that math can sorta explain but its not math that makes our actual brains function as math is just a construct…

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  19 дней назад +1

      yes and I think it's more like 'algorithms' which are very very approxmate

    • @aiamfree
      @aiamfree 19 дней назад +1

      @@ArtOfTheProblem i wonder what would happen if Neuralink tried LLMs…since I think they work with synapsis (i think)?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  19 дней назад +1

      @@aiamfree definitely could imagine that, you could "co think" in an interesting way....

  • @doctorshadow2482
    @doctorshadow2482 16 дней назад +1

    So, How ChatGPT Learned to Reason?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  16 дней назад

      do you like this title?

    • @doctorshadow2482
      @doctorshadow2482 16 дней назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem , of course, not, since it is misguiding like any advert. The topic is in no way covered at all. Pinpoint the time marker for video if you think otherwise. So, my point is that the question is still on the table.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  16 дней назад

      @@doctorshadow2482 yes good point, how about "Can ChatGPT reason?" obviously i do try to show what most people agree is the method, mcts on chains of thought. then there is the other camp that think it's all fake etc.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  16 дней назад

      or just "can ChatGPT think?" i'm gona try that

    • @doctorshadow2482
      @doctorshadow2482 16 дней назад

      @@ArtOfTheProblem , name it "How neural networks could learn (almost) anything". This video has nothing about CharGPT at all. No any kind of specifics. It provides very abstract and high level popular science documentary with scattered thoughts. It lacks focus and real information. Anyway, could be interesting for total beginners, so, please, continue!

  • @Phlosioneer
    @Phlosioneer Месяц назад

    Constructive criticism: 1) The substance of the video was very good. Script was well written, delivery was ok. A bit monotone but not that bad. 2) Sound design was poor towards the end. The music drowned out your voice, and the lyrics were both distracting and discordant. 3) Your choice of clips, footage, and visuals was good. The video was informative when needed, and abstract/entertaining/interesting otherwise. 4) The narrative structure was okay. It was a mostly clear progression. At the end it became unclear which AI was doing what strategy. 5) Visuals were reused way too often. Visuals can be reused, but I think the brain wormhole clip was shown 6 times, way too many. 6) Beware over-using a metaphor image. The upwards shot at two trees was reused so many times as a visual for tree-like thinking that it just became annoying.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  23 дня назад

      Yes I see the issue too , messed up ending in my edit as I got tired and cut a lot of stuff which was making the video so long - I’m planning to do a final supercut of all my ai videos into one doc without the sound issues and addressing notes like this

  • @seanmchugh6263
    @seanmchugh6263 14 дней назад

    +How can you go through te run-up to AI without mentioning "All you ned is attentio" the 2017 paper from the University of Toronto which was the inspuration for LLMs?

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  14 дней назад

      covered that in detail in my previous video (ruclips.net/video/OFS90-FX6pg/видео.html)

  • @flv-hd7nn
    @flv-hd7nn 13 дней назад +2

    music is so annoying at 1.75 speed

  • @Nate-bl9hy
    @Nate-bl9hy Месяц назад +7

    Although I know I’m in the minority, I really enjoy the music. The ambiance created adds to the experience for me

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад +4

      thanks for sharing, I feel same way. the music is part of the original idea for the channel...a feeling. but because people can get distracted I think i'll post music free as optional from now one.

    • @io9021
      @io9021 Месяц назад +1

      I generally like the music. But in the second half of this video the music is very loud and distracting.

    • @io9021
      @io9021 Месяц назад

      Maybe it's not only the loudness, but also the choice of music that is distracting to some. E.g. at 2:00 I don't feel distracted, but at 15:00 very much so. Anyways, thanks for making these great videos

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  Месяц назад

      @@io9021 made a new music version too! ruclips.net/video/DFDOyMZw9Q4/видео.html curious what questions you have after watching this

  • @mattd2641
    @mattd2641 11 дней назад +2

    Why is everyone offering “constructive criticism”? Just shut up and watch the video or don’t. No one cares what you think.

  • @macethorns1168
    @macethorns1168 20 дней назад

    0:05 I'm sorry...is there actually a debate? Of course they're not reasoning, they're just autocompleting patterns.

  • @I77AGIC
    @I77AGIC 15 дней назад

    good video but to be constructive the music is definitely too loud and distracting

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  14 дней назад

      see no music version in top comment, stay tuned

  • @CasperVanLaar
    @CasperVanLaar 19 дней назад +1

    Still doubtful to this the step by step understanding. It just seems like we're building a very sophisticated search algo. Since we need the human in the loop to reason for it...

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  18 дней назад

      How do u think human reason differs from “thought search”

    • @CasperVanLaar
      @CasperVanLaar 16 дней назад +1

      ​@ArtOfTheProblem Human learning often involves adapting to an ever-changing dataset, fast input/output, and neural flexibility-like learning to ride a bike. This shares some parallels with LLMs, which rely on stochastic neural network training, though not within a continuous feedback loop.
      The key difference, however, lies in reasoning. Humans apply general reasoning rules to hypothesize beyond known data, identifying and correcting logical errors independently. In contrast, LLMs depend on reinforcement learning, improving only through human-provided feedback rather than self-correcting or reasoning autonomously.
      This reliance on additional human-generated training data becomes evident in their performance. LLMs struggle with fairly simple but novel problems, displaying a sharp decline in reasoning capability under tests like the ARC challenge.

    • @ArtOfTheProblem
      @ArtOfTheProblem  16 дней назад

      @@CasperVanLaar yes but with test time training they are showing sharp gains on arc, did you see? this feels like one approach to get that 'flexibility' , it also feels kind of like a cheat...... also humans take forever to learn to ride a bike :) it's interesting that we can only learn it as children as well....same as swiming.

    • @CasperVanLaar
      @CasperVanLaar 15 дней назад

      @ArtOfTheProblem Loving this conversation-thanks for engaging!
      While these models are undoubtedly impressive, needing a human to correct simple reasoning errors suggests they’re not truly flexible solvers. Like the ARC test, I suspect they’re trained on similar examples, making the tests less novel-something crucial for real-world use. It’s akin to studying past IQ test answers: it no longer measures IQ, just memory.
      I highlighted some key parallels between AI and humans: stochastic learning from large datasets via iterative neural net updates (like learning to bike). Then, the differences: point-to-point reinforcement learning in LLMs for narrow tasks, versus humans solving on the fly with no examples.
      In summary, neural networks and transformers are fantastic tools for correlating complex datasets, but they’re far from achieving general intelligence-the ability to tackle novel problems. Without that, I fear we’re headed for another AI winter.
      PS I think it is a common myth that adults cannot learn to bike at a later age. With the right motivation and time. An adult can easily learn such tasks.

    • @CasperVanLaar
      @CasperVanLaar 15 дней назад +1

      @ArtOfTheProblem Loving this conversation-thanks for engaging!
      While these models are impressive, needing a human to correct simple reasoning errors suggests they’re not truly flexible solvers. Like the ARC test, I suspect they’re trained on similar examples, making the tests less novel-something crucial for real-world use. It’s akin to studying past IQ test answers: it no longer measures IQ.
      I highlighted some key parallels between humans and llms -- stochastic learning from large datasets via iterative neural net updates (like learning to bike). Then, the differences: point-to-point reinforcement learning in LLMs for narrow tasks, versus humans solving on the fly with no examples.
      In summary, neural networks and transformers are fantastic tools for correlating complex datasets, but they’re far from achieving general intelligence-the ability to tackle novel problems. Without that, I fear we’re headed for another AI winter.
      Ps Humans can learn entirely new skills later in life with motivation and time.

  • @FB7ACCFFF8C
    @FB7ACCFFF8C Месяц назад

    I love your videos but the background music is just too loud

  • @Clone42
    @Clone42 9 дней назад +1

    Okay, but can it lose at tic-tac-toe?

  • @k311ydcart3r
    @k311ydcart3r 10 дней назад

    Brilliant video, but PLEASE tone down or remove the background music and distraction. It's horrible.