If we jump back to the 1950's the prequel to getting mega superstars like Michael Jackson and Prince were people like Sammy Davis Jr., Frank Sinatra, and Dean Martin with showbuisness being at the forefront the entertainment industry. These kind of people were even existing before the Beatles and the Rolling Stones type bands. The housing was existing as a prequel lasting from back then about until the 80's ended. The 90's as far as groups or bands is where corporate greed started taken over and you could see it especially in R&B groups & so called "Boy Bands". There were a lot of R&B groups in the 90's that maybe had good voices but the labels got cheap with prerecorded music for R&B groups to sing over which pretty much eliminated the band or actual instruments being played by people in the group. Also in the 90's most R&B groups didn't write their own songs anymore but rather was given songs to sing by the labels. This is where the housing for getting your next Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, or even John Lennon started getting torn down. The only reason why the 90's was still a pretty good decade for music is because those people or musicians still had some kind of concept of what good material was from growing up in the 70's and 80's albeit they were hindered a bit by the labels from doing exactly what they wanted to do in most cases. So in order to get high level music artist back in the mainstream as we did back in the 80's, the housing would have to be rebuilt where the entertainment industry is only based on talent and the material selling itself and not the material being pushed as highgrade when at best it's midrange. Sadly, the movie industry has been affected by this even more.
One problem is ascap and bmi, they charge crazy fees so clubs can play live music, best live clubs are on a shoestring budget, 10k a year to just ascap will put you outta business, so no clubs, no place to play.
Ok immediate response, writing from unUnited.Kingdoom. Theres still loads of bands...street level, great communities of musicians. The Glamour, the enticement, the money is like the fast food of music, so they pump out the overproduced warm chocolate brownie with vanilla ice cream, and people think thats what they want, but musics deep man, and the community is far deeper than the vaneer of icing that is the mainstream. yeah theres loads of bands.
It started in the studio with the engineers perverting the process to their convenience. If they were operating an oil pumping station, this would make sense. I fought bitterly with everyone alive about how to record in the studio, I was called crazy for insisting we had more technology than ever to catch the band live, and that at no other time did we play our songs in this fractured manner, never mind that I didn't have a metronome player in my band because I thought that was why I had a drummer. After all this conflict, and frankly being dismissed by everyone around me, especially the 'real' musicians, I saw the Beatles 'Let It Be' and found out how they and the Stones and so many other bands actually made the great records that sold us on the idea we needed music in our lives in the first place. How have we fallen so far.
Well, not every band has dissappeared. Frost* has a new one "Life in the Wires" out in October, the tune "Life in the Wires Part 1" and "Moral and Consequence" seem to show they're not afraid to put out an ambitious double record in 2024.
@2:03 I'm watching a video, of someone watching a video, of someone watching a video, of someone watching a video, of someone on a podcast. wth is happening? 🤔
One main reason to focus on why bands have died, in whatever definition you perceive this, people don't know what teamwork is, leadership, creating positive environments. People are just immature and lack social skills required and musicians are the worst.
Yep, how to suck people under false pretenses. I thought I'd seen that one by Rick before but it said 1 day ago, so assumed he had done an update! Nope. Stopped the video after a few seconds.
There are loads of bands. Maybe not in the pop charts but, the pop charts are no longer a barometer of the music scene. Live music has gone underground where it belongs, as opposed to in the hands of the music industry, and below the radar of anachronistic old farts who like moaning that "it's not the good old days anymore"
...so true...but in the other hand, where is the audience!?? And is the public ready for this or expecting some alive and regular organic music!?? I don't see young ppl going to Rock gigs...😮
If we jump back to the 1950's the prequel to getting mega superstars like Michael Jackson and Prince were people like Sammy Davis Jr., Frank Sinatra, and Dean Martin with showbuisness being at the forefront the entertainment industry. These kind of people were even existing before the Beatles and the Rolling Stones type bands. The housing was existing as a prequel lasting from back then about until the 80's ended. The 90's as far as groups or bands is where corporate greed started taken over and you could see it especially in R&B groups & so called "Boy Bands". There were a lot of R&B groups in the 90's that maybe had good voices but the labels got cheap with prerecorded music for R&B groups to sing over which pretty much eliminated the band or actual instruments being played by people in the group. Also in the 90's most R&B groups didn't write their own songs anymore but rather was given songs to sing by the labels. This is where the housing for getting your next Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, or even John Lennon started getting torn down. The only reason why the 90's was still a pretty good decade for music is because those people or musicians still had some kind of concept of what good material was from growing up in the 70's and 80's albeit they were hindered a bit by the labels from doing exactly what they wanted to do in most cases. So in order to get high level music artist back in the mainstream as we did back in the 80's, the housing would have to be rebuilt where the entertainment industry is only based on talent and the material selling itself and not the material being pushed as highgrade when at best it's midrange. Sadly, the movie industry has been affected by this even more.
One problem is ascap and bmi, they charge crazy fees so clubs can play live music, best live clubs are on a shoestring budget, 10k a year to just ascap will put you outta business, so no clubs, no place to play.
This is awesome information!!!
Ok immediate response, writing from unUnited.Kingdoom. Theres still loads of bands...street level, great communities of musicians. The Glamour, the enticement, the money is like the fast food of music, so they pump out the overproduced warm chocolate brownie with vanilla ice cream, and people think thats what they want, but musics deep man, and the community is far deeper than the vaneer of icing that is the mainstream. yeah theres loads of bands.
Thats awesome that you're hitting me up from the UK!!! And I totally agree with you!!!!
It started in the studio with the engineers perverting the process to their convenience.
If they were operating an oil pumping station, this would make sense.
I fought bitterly with everyone alive about how to record in the studio, I was called crazy for insisting we had more technology than ever to catch the band live, and that at no other time did we play our songs in this fractured manner, never mind that I didn't have a metronome player in my band because I thought that was why I had a drummer.
After all this conflict, and frankly being dismissed by everyone around me, especially the 'real' musicians, I saw the Beatles 'Let It Be' and found out how they and the Stones and so many other bands actually made the great records that sold us on the idea we needed music in our lives in the first place.
How have we fallen so far.
we have fallen soooo far, hopefully things turn around in the next few years. Society needs!
Well, not every band has dissappeared. Frost* has a new one "Life in the Wires" out in October, the tune "Life in the Wires Part 1" and "Moral and Consequence" seem to show they're not afraid to put out an ambitious double record in 2024.
And thats dope, but I think what he really meant was having tons of music bands on the MAINSTREAM. And thats by total design
@2:03 I'm watching a video, of someone watching a video, of someone watching a video, of someone watching a video, of someone on a podcast. wth is happening? 🤔
Solo artists are cheaper than bands. Money is the answer to everything. There's bands out there, they just don't get propped up like they used to.
All facts my brother
One main reason to focus on why bands have died, in whatever definition you perceive this, people don't know what teamwork is, leadership, creating positive environments. People are just immature and lack social skills required and musicians are the worst.
Youre totally right!!!!
Once they ran out of original sounds for band names, it was over.
There are a lot of great bands out there but they don't get there the air play and mainstream media exposure.
This is straight facts!
Record companies don’t want to pay five guys in one group, when they can pay one “artist” with an iPad. He will also do most of his own production.
These labels are operating out of great these days
Not on a local level but yeah, mainstream popular radio music might as well be AI at this point.
I dont like it, mistakes can be beautiful
Dude, don't use Rick's thumbnail.
If I want to watch Rick Beato, I’ll just go to his channel!
Yep, how to suck people under false pretenses. I thought I'd seen that one by Rick before but it said 1 day ago, so assumed he had done an update! Nope. Stopped the video after a few seconds.
There are loads of bands. Maybe not in the pop charts but, the pop charts are no longer a barometer of the music scene. Live music has gone underground where it belongs, as opposed to in the hands of the music industry, and below the radar of anachronistic old farts who like moaning that "it's not the good old days anymore"
The worst thing the industry ever did was create a genre called POP
In the old days, there was unity with music which created a certain environment. Going underground does not reach the masses for an experience.
...so true...but in the other hand, where is the audience!?? And is the public ready for this or expecting some alive and regular organic music!?? I don't see young ppl going to Rock gigs...😮
I agree 👍
What happened to original content?