How to Heat a Boat: Our Cubic Mini Wood Burning Stove is HOT 🔥 HOT! (Patrick Childress Sailing #62)
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- We are preparing for cold weather sailing in Patagonia, and review the options on how to heat a boat to stay warm while we liveaboard Sv Brick House. Who would think of a wood burning stove on a boat? Our boat heater installation includes a cubic mini wood stove installation (grizzly), a solid fuel burner really, and an engine or bus heater. A wood burning stove on a boat may not be the way every sailor would choose for heating a boat, but it was right for us. We show our wood burning stove diy installation with Dickinson fittings, and what precautions we took to try to make our cubic mini wood stove installation a safe wood burning stove diy. At the end Rebecca talks about why we chose a wood stove over a diesel heater, propane heater, Refleks diesel/alcohol burner, electric heaters, or other boat heater installations, for our cold weather sailing around the world. We will stay warm & off-grid in our floating tiny home!
The 4 boat heaters we feel are the best heaters for our sailboat:
1.Cubic Mini Woodstove - For heating the sailboat at anchor, when electricity and fuel is scarce we are using a wood burning stove. The cubic mini grizzly wood stove (CB-1210) nor the 810 ecofan, on top of the wood-stove, use electricity or require us to carry diesel or propane in bulk. Wood is easily found or purchased. This small wood stove burns coal too. It’s an economical source of heat for a small sailboat for those of us sailing on a budget.
Cubic Mini Grizzly wood burning stove: amzn.to/3dHMNXC (larger woodstove)
Cubic Mini Cub wood burning stove : amzn.to/2wECGlZ (smaller woodstove)
Caframo Ecofan 810 (medium size): amzn.to/2xCrS7K
Dickinson deck fitting amzn.to/2JrFzsU (Not sure we like this-ask in comments)
Dickinson DP Cap: amzn.to/2xvS9ol (not sure we like this - ask in comments)
Tools for wood stove: amzn.to/2UuNpsg
Double walled flue pipes: cubicminiwoods...
Detailed info about the product and installation at www.cubicminiwo...
2. Bus Heater/Engine heater. Free heat on the boat when the engine is running: We bought our small boat heater from Fisheries Supplies...these are the ones used by MANY fishing boats in the northwest USA...and they have some cold weather boating up there!
www.fisheriess...
3. A kerosene lantern: (Tilley lantern, Coleman lantern). For backup heating the boat
Kerosene Lantern: (different model than ours) amzn.to/3bDyHEZ
4. Electric boat heater/Space heater/quartz heater- for heating the boat at the dock. anything like this will work... amzn.to/3bDAERP
I am writing a blog soon about the various boat heaters we researched. If you didn’t notice...Patrick sped me through this part...and I didn’t have enough time to talk about all of the boat heating options as much as I would have liked to. What’s a girl to do. Well...I’m writing a blog. If you want a boring but somewhat exhaustive write up of why we chose a wood burning stove/woodstove over all the other various kinds of boat heaters available, visit our blog at www.WhereIsBric....
Special Thanks to Dan and Kika on sv Uma ( RUclips Sailing Channel Sailing Uma)
They installed a Cubic Mini Wood on their sailboat, and are where we originally got the idea to look at Cubic Mini woodstoves as an option on how to heat a sailboat. Here is that video and is one of the best videos on how to Heat a sailboat:: • Creative Cubic Mini Wo...
Other videos on the Cubic Mini woodstoves on boats, sailboats, tiny homes, vans...:
Playlist of probably every Cubic Mini woodstove installation I could find on youtube: • Cubic Mini Wood Stove
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What do you think...would you consider a wood stove on your sailboat? How would you choose to heat your boat...and why? We would love to hear about the heater or heaters on your boat and the pluses, and minuses!
You probably already know we have a Russian Planar/Autotherm 4kW diesel heater :-) We ran it every day from when it started to be colder last year (lower than 18 degrees Celsius) up till now, and it works great. We didn't have a problem up till now. I heard the bearings of this thing are better than on the Webasto and Eberspacher, so they should last longer. Some people told me they are running them for several years now without problems, although there are always monday morning models :-) But you are probably right about the difficulty of getting diesel. I don't think at the Argentinian side, but at the Chilian side there is not much (we almost ran out of fuel in the Chilian Tierra del Fuego, mid winter, with nobody around and a meter of snow, while we had extra jerrycans on the roof).
So + : Very easy to use. Temperature regulation is spot on. Small unit. Low electricity usage after start up. 5cm vents send the hot air through the boat - : We need to have enough diesel.
Thanks Exodos for your information. It seems there is no perfect solution but would be nice to have a couple heat sources.... if our boat were big enough. Maybe we will end up using a lot of mineral spirits/paraffin with our lamp. The wood stove will be an adventure to live with. I used to have a large wood stove in my house in Rhode Island so no big deal. Thanks for your comment.
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife Everything is a compromise, right? :-)
Greetingz, Wim
Sailing Exodos Yes...if there’s was one perfect solution, we would all have it. I think as some earlier posters said too, it’s how often you will be near civilization. Am I wright that the normal non rushed transit through that area if about 6 months to get around? I don’t want to have to go back, or rush forward because we are running out of fuel. And I never want to have to choose between running the engine to carry on and between being warm. I’m sure it won’t always be easy, but the idea that I will never be cold if I keep a supply of wood, and give it thought every day about what wood I spy on shore. Our decks are cluttered enough with out jerry cans of diesel for getting around...I hate to double those jerry cans on board. Yes...I think 2 kinds of heaters for the boat may be nice, and whatever you find the fuel for, you use that. I’ve seen some $50 kerosene heaters in the stores here in S Africa. May have to explore one of those just for fun. Ergh...more fuel to carry. I think we will enjoy Patagonia more with this challenge for finding wood on shore. Remind me of that statement when we are out of wood and it’s my turn to go look for wood :) -Rebecca
FYI: You're probably aware ... be careful of CO with these.
RIP brother, thank you for sharing your knowledge, you will surely be missed
Yes, surely.
Fair weather, Patrick. I"n gonna miss you.
Me too
I don't have a boat but I enjoy coming along on your adventures and learning new things. It initially sounded crazy installing a wood heater but Rebecca's explanations at the end made perfect sense. Thank you for making and sharing your videos.
Thanks Brian. Not sure it’s perfect sense, but it’s what made the most sense to us. Everything on a sailboat is a compromise. I am sure there will be days I wish I could push a button and have instant heat, but if it’s broken and I have no alternative that would be a bummer. The Cubic mini wood stove at least can’t break down and leave us cold! And it’s not reliant on electricity. If we have wood, we are warm! -Rebecca on SV Brick House
This the most, I mean the most, informative and descriptive HOW TO that I've ever seen. I must have played this video of yours over 20 times, picking up all kinds of information. You really missed your calling. You sir should be a professor of something.... anything. You're a proactive how to guy that has a gift for bringing things across, so simply, but thoroughly. I know now to exactly approach and complete my stove project. I can't thank you enough. Masterfully done, simply masterfully.
Glad it was helpful! He was pretty awesome… that’s for certain!
Patrick was a master of all things. I started watching your channel while living in South Korea. I now live in Europe and still have dreams of sailing. One day I will do something about it and rewatch all his videos for his immense knowledge. RIP, Patrick 😢❤️Sending Rebecca love from Poland.
Ah very cool. Somehow missed this comment… hope u r still with us!
difficult to watch, knowing the world has lost this truly great sailor! Rest In Peace knowing your words continue to guide us
He thanks you. And i do too. Thanks for watching.
I really really miss him ♥️
A true sailer. I hope he finds a way to warm your heart Rebecka.
Thanks...good video to make that comment on..it didn’t escape me!
One thing for sure, rest my dear friend Patrick. The wind still blows and your words of wisdom rest gently in my heart and soul. Bless you Rebecca.
So Unreal to learn of your loss... RIB and ride in great memories and respect to the ones who pawed our mental and physical ways in life. Hugs from Denmark.
Good luck finding DRY wood in Patagonia. Remember too most of Patagonia is national park so just collecting wood could be an offence.. Personally i think the refleks stove (although expensive) was a better option. Carrying extra diesel is easier than carrying wood. They are a very economical heating system. All the Garcia's & Borial's in Patagonia have them. You will see this when your there. Ushuaia in Argentina is SUPPER expensive for fuel & supplies.2 times more expensive than Sydney Australia. Sydney is 1 of the dearest cruiser ports in the world. Good luck & God speed, your going to love the place. Patagonian pumas are awesome animals. I hope you get to see 1 or 2. I hope we get to see a lot of your journey in youtube. Best wishes to you both.
PJ, Thanks for the information and we will keep a sharp eye out for the Pumas. As we sail down the coast of S.America, we will pile on the supplies but I hate to load down this boat too much....... But now we hear from friends who just sailed through there and have seen in videos that nice dry wood is all over the beaches, everywhere! So now it is nice to know heating this boat will be not problem.
A excellent veiw & well articulated! Patrick was sure a classy fella. He liked having a backup or redundant system's even in the heat department!, I like the installation of the wood Stove,it was well thought out and you did pick the right size stove Rebecca! You know I like the way Patricks mind worked, a truly wonderful & thoughtful person in all! Funny I use jars for my loose parts also when working on projects the same way too😊! Luv&Peace your in our hearts! Keep well & be safe, looking forward to what you decide to do! Rebecca, 1Sean.✌⚘
Thank you Patrick and Rebecca. He is helping us along even after he has passed. What a wise man to document his experiences in such a way to preserve his knowledge for others long after him. God Bless.
Yes patrick has left quite a legacy
Considering it's almost the start of Winter here in South Africa & we are still stuck here cause of Lockdown.. Lady Africa should probably thing of some heating options now 😋- Simone
Yep...but you are the dock...so for now it’s electric heaters. We are actually starting to burn the stove now at the dock though simply to dry out the boat. The electric heater is creating soooo much condensation in the closets and lockers!!!-Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife I know. We had the same problem when we had to run our lil electric heater.. & with condensation comes mold 😔 & that's more of a pain than the cold 😂
Sailing Lady Africa so true. It’s only gonna get colder here...well..you know...we are even dreaming up some more backups to make sure we stay warm ;) -Rebecca
Guys I don’t want to disappoint you, I’m an Argentinian, diesel would be the best option for Patagonia... there are no woods, you will find wood, but usually it’s at the gas stations. Wood is not a normal fuel down here, we mainly use it for bbq in the south of the country. Also wood is not cheap at all, and we are producers of oil and diesel, in the Patagonia... but, the wood stove is nice and warms the soul.. I’m and engineer in Buenos Aires, I’ve traveled my country.. if you need anything down south here, feel free to contact me.. I can help you work around if you need parts, tools, or anything..
Ger, thank you for your information. We will also stash some coal to burn in this stove. I suppose I should have used the term, "solid fuel stove". We are still in Africa with the virus lock down. We do linger as there is no reason to rush through the countries we visit so who knows when we will get to Argentina. When we do , it would be fun to cross paths with you.
Hi Ger...we get such mixed reports. These guys are down there now, ready to set sail for New Zealand a 3900 mile sail or their home due to coronavirus. But this is what they say about wood supply. I don’t know why such different reports..you are the first to say no wood there...and they are the first to say there is a lot. Here is what they wrote to me...today:
“Everything else,even the wood gathering is a positive for me providing much needed exercise.
To date its been done by thick tooth carpeters handsaw,,lately a bow saw of chinese origin that cuts in circles,(they really have a lot to answer for lately) .I split it with a hatchet...
To keep up supply? Well an hour or two in good weather will produce 40 litres of wood.We use 20 bucket as our wood bucket for the fire...A cold night,half a bucket.Stuck at anchor? A whole bucket.But your warm,have endless hot water,dry your clothes and boots and rain gear with a totally renewable heat source,and something to do for the day...get wood!
The trick is to stay ahead of useage,I use about 3 old sail bags on rotation for gathering,and there just under a cover on the coach roof.The days where your motoring all day in a canal,tip em out and dry em,two days of this will produce usable wood.
If I was to improve my gathering Id maybe use a small chainsaw,or maybe a rechargeable saw...the ones where the blade goes in and out.reciprocating??
You guys probably have one knowing how organised you are...and wood gathering will stop Patrick taking pictures of himself all the time!
Ha,no offense,there enjoyably awse videos guys,and I know how much work is involved doing them...well done..
As far as supply,well its everywhere.Weve never anchored when I couldnt go and find a stick to burn. Argie bollocks the info you were told...Anyway,if nothing in your bay,there will be in the next one,and youve mostly got a dinghy in for shorelines...more exercise rowing around to it!
The engine heater has been great too,a commercial one with low draw fan.Motoring days are toasty...but push come to shove,without one Id light the fire! And have done!
On the Chilean Patagonia it's okay. I'm sailing here with my boat with a wooden stove since January 2019 it's fine, get yourself a chain saw, that will help a lot.
Thanks for the feedback...leave some firewood for us! Are chainsaws readily available in Argentina, Uruguay, Chili? Do you have any backup heat methods? If so what and how do you dins yourself using or has the wood stove been All that you have needed? You are there for a long time...you must love it? Thanks again for reassuring me that there is wood there! -Rebecca
@@GeannXD Gean, Thank you for your local knowledge. Also, just today, we heard from a Kiwi friend who just sailed through that area to the west coast of S.America. He said there is good dry wood everywhere near the beaches.
Great video as always. Having heated a house for several years with a wood stove, I thought I might provide a tip for starting the fire in your wood burner. Once the kindling and firewood are laid, roll up a sheet of newspaper from one corner to the opposite corner, making a tight roll, so you end up with a long tube. When you have started your kindling, light the end of the paper and hold the flame just below the flue. This procedure will quickly heat the air in the chimney, starting a draft that will cause your firewood to catch a lot better. By rolling the newspaper tightly, the end will burn longer and cause the chimney to get hotter faster. This from an old Hialeah boy.
Fred Probst Exceelent advice...we will give that a shot with the next fire we have in the wood stove onboard Brick House! Except we have to find some newspaper ;) -Rebecca
Bless his soul.
Yes
I’ve watched this before, thanks Patrick, and I’m pleased I watched it again because I had forgotten the Vermiculite (even though I know what it is and how its made, still forgot) and I am finishing the design of the log fire for my boat. Rebecca, I totally endorse all of your thinking on this, and the one big thing you didn’t mention was the use of your log fire as a cooker. The Swedes are masters of log fired baking, have a look to that possibility some time. Thinking of you at this difficult time. Bill
Thanks Bill. Actually removed the stove and have it stowed on my bow now…ready to put back up if it gets cold again!
I have a 30 foot aluminum boat that I use in southcentral Alaska for all but the dead of winter, I've used a Espar diesel air heater for about 12 years and its been flawless. I installed ducting so it has outlets in that blow on the wheelhouse windows for defog/defrost, the galley area and the bow sleeping cuddy. Eventually I'll be extending the ducting to the head too - it gets really cold in there as one wall is the outside aluminum hull and it's downright chilly when taking a shower in winter. The heater is under one of the galley bench seats and I've got the exhaust triple wrapped with fiberglass heater tape that is painted with high heat paint, even on high for long periods the exhaust never gets above slightly warm to the touch. The exhaust is routed so it goes in a loop ~18 inches above and then down to the through-hull exhaust port which has kept slapping waves from flooding it with no problem
I would recommend getting the smaller one as I have the larger and it was a mistake. It puts out so much heat that even when it's below freezing we have to open windows to keep the heater from short cycling or extended low output (which leads to coking). I uses hardly any power - the nav uses a lot more power than it does. A solar panel or two or a wind turbine will produce all the power you need.
Also, the energy density of diesel is so high and it burns so efficiently that you can pack weeks of constant heating into just 10 gallons of fuel and you can always find diesel at any fuel dock. We've had it running for weeks at a time during extended trips without a problem.
I've spent a few months on-and-off on a small commercial fishing boat with a solid fuel cabin heater and its a HUGE PITA, its messy as heck, storing the wood is a super awkward PITA (and you need a lot of it because wood is so inefficient), getting the wood is awkward, fueling the stove gets smoke in the cabin, it was slow to heat the entire cabin and the heating was uneven - it'd be warm near the stove but cold in the berthing area. If you think you'll just go ashore to find some sticks you seriously need to rethink it, the wood will be wet and need to be dried out, buggy, rotten, and/or need splitting, and it'll invariably be raining and the chainsaw won't start to boot (as the new guy it was my job and it sucked).
I VERY VERY STRONGLY recommend you get a diesel air heater, if you do you'll find yourself using it as your primary heater and keeping the wood stove as a backup within the first week of cold you encounter.
One last thing, I have the intake air for the heater coming from outside the cabin, that provides slight positive pressure to the cabin and keeps it dry inside by forcing any living/cooking/shower moisture out through the vents and gaps.
DAH, Thanks for all your great information. We will carry coal, when it is available, as it would be a better, more concentrated, fuel than wood. We have been considering some sort of small diesel heater or kerosene heater also. Can't have enough backups. I don't like all the duct work though of those diesel air heaters. That takes up a lot of space and would really upset our storage abilities. But we are looking, so we will have all the possibilities covered. It is good to hear from someone like you who has good practical experience rather than just speculating.
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife the trick to the Espars (and I assume the modern Chinese knock-offs) is to run them hot, and it helps a lot to put in 10% kerosene. The reason the espars of the people you talked to were broken is nobody runs them right and I'll bet they were coked up. Once a year I run pure kerosene through to clean it out. I've only had to take it apart to clean once and that was the second year I had it because I was doing just like everybody else and letting it run on low most of the time.
You'd be amazed at where the ducts will fit, I used PVC pipe and the smooth wall really helps with long runs. You dont even need much ducting, a tee and a couple of directional vents and it'll blow towards what you want.
Even now all these years later I wouldnt put a solid fuel heater on a boat if you paid me.
DAH3313 Thats Great info. I guess if there was one system that fit everyone’s situation we would all end up with that heater. For us, the Cubic Mini is working out very nicely. I am begging Patrick for a wood fire tonight, even though we are at a dock with electricity. It’s just such a quiet cozy heat...it’s just feels very good to me. Much nicer than the buzzing of electric heat. That ticking on the diesel air heaters would drive me insane listening to it. If we ever went diesel, it would have to be a non electric version. I think the Cubic Mini, regardless of any backup heating we may put in, will be our main source of both amusement onshore as well as contentment while onboard.-Rebecca
Hi Pat, Patagonia is not only cold but very windy, the Roaring Forties rip through there. You may need to lash the stove chimney down to stop it from blowing away. Take care, Cheers Chris
Hopefully we will be there in the less windy time of the year...in the cold time of the year. But yes...I think putting the stainless steel hose clamp will be the minimum...and some guy wires may need to be erected if it blows 50 very often! Or we huddle up like the seals ;) -Rebecca on SV Brick House
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife Don't laugh, you could run that heater on dried fish if you ran out of wood. I think you made a good choice with the heater. Cheers
Chris Bradbury I hope we don’t need to run the wood stove on fish bones...I wonder what that does for creosote in the flue! But I am glad it may be willing! But yes there may be some times we are pretty happy to have endless fuel to burn in the stove!!! -Rebecca
Bravo! We installed a Cubic Mini Grizzly on our WS42 Harmony this past fall. Love it! We too debated all of the options for heating and having an aft cabin made things a little complicated. However, the stove is in the salon and will heat the entire front of the boat handsomely! We do have an espar type heater for the aft cabin and it works fine with low draw actually. Wood heat is dry and easy to manage. We sail out of New England and this will keep up toasty and DRY. Fair Winds from Doug on WS42 Harmony in Marion, MA
We purchased our sailboat from Marion MA, (Bardens marina) last May and sailed her back to home to Leamington Ontario. We really enjoyed our stay at Marion, its a beautiful town to visit. I decided to install an Espar type heater because it takes up so little space. Installation can be complex though.
We keep our boat in Bardens Boatyard and have kept all of our boats there for over 30 years: they are wonderful! If you were in the Benson Brook yard, you would have seen me on Harmony doing some sanding! The installation of the espar heater took a bit of thought, but went smoothly! Fair Winds
Douglas, thanks for the words about your positive experience with the Grizzly. We sailed away from Newport, RI nearly 13 years ago. We do not miss the cold and Rebecca is not overly excited about getting back into cold latitudes but I promised to keep her warm. Hopefully all the amazing things we hear about that part of the world will also warm her up when we experience it for real.
I have a small wood burning stove on my Catalina 30, I use presto logs cut into 1/2 and 1/3 depending on how long I want the fire to last, they are pretty nice burning and not a lot of ash. Nice option as I will be cruising when I retire to Alaska. I also have a $130 Chinese diesel heater, it's in a metal case so I am going to fab a mount so I can use diesel heat if needed since the boat runs on diesel.
Sounds like a couple of good choices to heat your boat. Maybe buy a backup for the Chinese heater if you are going somewhere that things are difficult to have sent in. Cruising in Alaska sounds like a great plan!!
Rewatched ,it popped on my feed, what a incredible teacher, rest your oars sailer
Yes he was a great teacher!
Another brilliant tutorial ! Thank you.
Thanks for watching our video about the Cubic Mini Grizzly!
Going through all your brilliant videos again, to see which ones we had forgotten to "like". Thinking of you always. Love Paul & Kath.
Ahhhh...sweet of you. Hope you will continue watching. I have a few tricks up my sleeve too ;)
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife Were subscribed and saving the pennies hard in order to get out there.
I have enough reason to believe that when your husband was an elementary school student, the manual work must be full marks!
I have always imagined that the marine wood stove was really realized, and it was a pleasant surprise!
I imagine that the wood-burning stove should be an independent intake and exhaust pipe connecting the air outside the cabin to prevent the consumption of oxygen in the cabin. But after reading your DIY process, yours may be better, because the effect is more significant in indoor dehumidification!
Have a good trip!
the manual work mean that
Making of handicrafts for elementary school students , xd
Watching this video once again, what a guy he was, so sorry for your loss, my heartfelt condolences.
Thanks for watching it again. He EAS such a guy..such an amazing guy
We have a cubic mini stove in our sailboat. It takes some time getting used to starting the fire and not smoking up the inside of the boat. You will need to crack a hatch or portlight for good air flow throughout the boat. It does a good job when the chimney heats up. Make sure you fix all the bugs y before setting sail. As far as the loose chimney goes. That want last in the Southern Ocean. If you loose that you loose heat and now you have a hole in the boat. I had a Bronze deck Iron built and have it secured down with bronze turn buckles that are fasented to the deck. Ive got a decent amount of experience with wood burning stoves and personaly, i would only give the heater a 4 on a 10 scale. If i was going South to high latitudes the diesel fed dickenson would be a better choice. The Newport Dickenson stove will heat a 40 foot boat very easily. The reason people have issues with the dickenson is because they dont filter their fuel. I can send you pics of my set up if you like. ~ Fair Winds
Oceanghost, thanks for the tips. I will do as you suggest and rig up a thin wire support system for the taller stack. If it is really windy though, we might be able to get by without it. I just want to reduce the amount of smoke that might contaminate the boom and dodger.
Thank you for reviewing Ecofan on your RUclips channel! We think you have done an excellent job of sharing the key benefits of the Ecofan with your audience. We are creating a highlight reel of community reviews on the Ecofan products and if it’s cool with you, we’ll include a small portion with credit at the end. Let us know if that’s ok on your end and we’ll send it your way when it’s finished. Would of course be happy if you shared as well 😉
Hi Ecofan...no problem...happy to help. Love that silent little fan of yours. The Cubuc Mini stove is such a silent gorgeous heat, the ecofan is a perfect partner with it. Please send the link...would love to share it...hope you will put a link to this video on your video please.
Thinking about you, Rebecca. Hoping you are well, recovering, and find some joy. Love!
Hi Patrick. Much love here down in South Africa...
I love that you call a Sabre saw by its proper name! ! Nomenclature matters 👍🏻
Yes he was good at that
A really great DYI video. Awesome job Patrick. The quality continues to improve and great to see the participation that includes both of you. Rebecca that was a great explanation at the end of why you made your choice of the Grizzly. Hat tip to Sailing Uma for a similar installation. I look forward to seeing the future videos from Patagonia! Those are going to be amazing. Did you see the short mini series that Johan from RAN Sailing put on their website from the trip he and one of his friends took down that way towards Antarctica over 15 years ago? It is worth a view. Thanks for sharing!
Hi David...Thanks for everything! I will check out those videos from RAN Sailing...didn’t know he had gone there. And yes...enjoyed that video from Sailing Uma...we especially liked the fiberglass “tube” they did for the chimney fo their Cubic Mini. I really struggle with it David...have to really psyche myself up for appearances like that...but I was the one that did all the research about how to heat the boat. Patrick doesn’t tend to think of things except in present tense. I am all about the future...and I see a lot of cold weather in our future. I’m not even sure the Cubic Mini will be all we need, but it’s the heart of our heating system...everything else will be to add a little more heat for when the Cubic Mini is more work than we want to do on any one given day. It’s a hands on system. But at least you know it’s gonna work, all the time!!! -Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife Look at the bottom of their channel for the mini series sailing to Antartica and South Georgia mini series. Johan reminds me of Patrick in his sailing adventures - just a decade or so difference between them. You are doing great on the video appearances Rebecca. You knocked it out of the park. Keep it up - you are doing great. The title of the episode was really cute as well. Cheers!
I think a hatchet and a camp saw are in order if you don't already have one. The firebox size will mean some extra work to find/cut pieces small enough to fit. Great video as usual!
We have a small ax, which I needed for opening coconuts, in the tropics. I think a small bow saw is now on the list to get. Thanks allgonquin, for your comment.
Hello, Between the pipe and the roof i did rockwool as isolation. I had a wood/coal stove. The wooden deck was treated with coaltar. Some times the stovepipe red hot and it wash never a problem. But a live in Amsterdam and houses are very good isolated. And smal parts you find for free. Good luck and have afther the corona time a nice sailing time.
Thank you for that good information about how you operate your wood stove/solid fuel/coal stove. Red hot...wow...scary! Maybe that’s why Cubic Mini sells the double walled pipes so as to not scare those of us on boats (or vans, or tiny homes, or even big houses!) !!! Thanks for watching in Amsterdam! Yes..hope Covid-19 Geo sup the chimney with smoke, very soon!-Rebecca
I installed the cub in our bayfield 29 it works great. I used a teak wedge on top of the deck to keep the chimney level. Great video on how to install.
Perry Lovelace Thanks...what made you go with the cub vs the grizzly? We love this little stove so far...got it last summer...makes me excited to get to colder climates, kind of! -Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife our 29 foot sailboat isn't a very big space and we only sail in the north channel until October so the cub is big enough for us. I have a container with small pieces of maple like 1in x 6 in that we use.
Got it...and the CUB heats everything well? I imagine it would. When we have fires in here on cold nights in the wood stove, it’s get very toasty, very quickly. And it’s so quiet. We really love it! -Rebecca on SV Brick House
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife yes it heats our boat very well. Last fall we were anchored out and had gone to shore to have a fire with other boaters, when we got back to our boat that night both my wife and I were chilled, so it wasn't long and we had the cub fired up, it was about 12 degree in the boat and it wasn't long before it was at 20 degrees, we were very glad to have the stove that night.
Perry Lovelace I can see where it would be. The Cubic Mini grizzly is one of the nicest additions we have made to our boat ;) -Rebecca
Excellent episode....Patagonia......looking forward to following! Good install video! Thanks, Andrew
Always good to hear from you, Andrew. The boat is just about ready to leave but the virus thing has all of S.Africa on shut down for another 2 weeks.
So sorry to hear he has passed, really liked his content and seemed like a good soul, would like to give donation to help out as he has helped many, please advise. Aroha from Aotearoa. Tipane
Thank you for wanting to help. There is a tip jar on the web site but please don’t unless you really have it to spare. I will be OK....Everyone has their struggles. (www.WhereIsBrickHouse.com)
You mentioned putting the co detector in the ceiling remember co is heavier than air so something lower would be recommend
The installation instructions I have say five feet is ok
You are right. I checked and some instructions say head height while others say knee height. I think we will install ours at bunk height. Thanks for your comment, Ian.
I spoke with a fire person when I installed mine and got mixed opinions from the same person.
When it first comes out it’s hot and will rise, then cools and falls to the floor.
Based on that conversation I mounted one at the top of the bulkhead and one at the bottom!
I think that little wood stove is going to be handy. Maybe because I am a little biased being Canadian? They hold the heat for a long time.
If you get them too hot you get too warm then suffer from cold shock. The trick is just to keep the chill out and let the mass of cast iron do the heating. Nice, soft and subtle. Slow and easy.
Marcel, and the stove is Canadian made. We are surprised at how popular these stoves are for campers and small houses back in the woods, and on sailboats. Rebecca thoroughly researched all the options and the stove seems the best for the destination we are headed. The stove also burns coal so we will stash some coal before leaving S.Africa. Great hearing from you.
Good choice, not often you can't find something to burn if you look. Also with a bit of fidling about you can find diesel and gas burners that will fit in them and you still get dry heat.
Has to be said that those blown air diesel heaters have become pretty reliable these days. As you say though they also need quite a bit of electric. I can tell you from experience on a cold night even a nice shiny new truck sometimes shuts off its voltage cut out by morning.
A very interesting episode. Like you I have aspirations towards TdF and the Beagle channel and had been thinking about heating. A wood burner was at the top of my list so good to see how you did yours. My coachroof is somewhat more angled than yours so I'd have to make up a compensation plate for the flue.
FYI I checked the average summer temperature in Ushuaia and it is around 13 degrees celcius (56 farenheit) so even the summers aren't particularly warm!
No, we are not expecting summer in the fun and sun drenched decks. I think we will pick up warmer clothes as we move down the S. American coast. We have talked to people who live or who have visited the Falklands and that seems to be a "do not miss" destination. There is a guy named Skip Novak who lives here in Hout Bay, S.Africa. I happened to recognize him in the grocery story the other day and introduced myself. Skip operates adventure charters out of Ushuaia. He is preparing his new boat in Cape Town but we are in lockdown so I can't go see it. He will be running trips to round Cape Horn. That would be a fun one. Looks like there are a lot of great adventures ahead! Keep in touch. Hope to see you there or some where along the way.
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife Yes I've heard of Skip's trips, they sound great! I was talking to a couple recently, who returned from TfD last autumn, they did a two day trip out from Williams and around the horn. They said it was a fantastic feeling so definitely something to add to the list!
Some people I have spoken to down there also talk about insulating the boat but for me to do that successfully I'd pretty much have to rip the inside out! I don't intend to stay there for longer than a couple of months before heading up the Chilean fijords and towards warmer climes so hopefully I'll get away without insulation, anyway, I've got good thermal underwear!
The Falklands are an amazing place but be warned if you go there don't let them stamp your passport if you intend to go to Argentina afterwards or they may not let you in. Similarly, if you go to the Falklands after Argentina don't let on that that's where your're going.
Ah that’s a good bit of advice! I was also told, for anyone following this sequence, that wood gets harder to find as you go west...so we may have to pick up some coal like Tom Cunliffe does, or something pressed logs which some posters here say burn longer anyways. -Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife before you put coal in your stove check that it can take the extra heat. Coal burns hotter than wood and could buckle your stove. I had that problem with a domestic log burner I had a few years ago.
@@sailingmoonshadow3169 The maker of the Cubic Mini stoves says it will burn coal or wood, so we should be good to go. Thanks for the caution, though.
I installed a cubic grizzly on my sailboat back in February and it does a good job il be going down to south America soon
Ah so envious! Enjoy South America and your cubic mini woodstove!
I have used a multifuel stove for over 15 years, I would also take some smokeless anthracite type coal as well as wood if your stove can burn it. Wood on its own burns very fast so you are always feeding the stove, but a small amount of coal as a base to the wood can make your stove burn more evenly and need less tending.
I enjoy the videos very much. Thank you.
Sail safe.
Thanks for the tip. Since S.Africa is a big coal exporting country, we will stash some before we leave.
I really really hope you continue on with your plan to go to Patagonia. You will not be dissapointed, I go there every chance I get. One note, in some areas you wont find a heck of a lot of wood either. There just aren't many trees in the windiest place on earth. Its around, you'll stay warm, but its certainly totally devoid of trees along the majority of the Argentinian coast. Chile, north of Punta Arenas will be pretty easy picking. Also the chilean side of tierra del fuego has wood, even some of the southern aregentinan side of TDF has it, but unless your rounding cape horn you won't see that.
Thanks. Patrick passed (see later videos) so without a very experienced captain who’s very vested in the boat, it’s just too much stress to have on my shoulders alone.
This is the best installation video I've seen, thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much! Patrick likes to be as thorough as possible with all of his diy videos. Thanks for watching our Cubic Mini wood stove installation video, and for taking the time to comment -Rebecca
Nice job. Godspeed, Patrick. ❤️
Yes..thanks..
Enjoying watching these older vlogs lol you guy's actually got us to buy 2 cubic mini stoves a excellent product when installed correctly! ....Luv&Peace my friend Rebecca. Sean&family Cheers!
Ah…hope you enjoy! Why two?
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife a smaller one for a 120sqf lil cabin & the grizz for a 26 ft trailer....lol 2 ....Cheers.
Thank you Rebecca. Seems like a good choice. It was a very Patrick install and video. Thanks again for sharing.
Thanks for watching. Happy Holidays!
I live where it NEVER gets cold enough to light a fire. What amazed me was that you chose a wood or coal burner box to warm the boat. I know that firewood or coal is not easy to store without huge amounts of debris or dirt around. Having been disabled, I find that cold for me is not something that i enjoy. Luckily Zululand only decreases to 18 degrees Celsius (at least not colder on the coast) As it is, I dread the winter, but if it gets cold, it is seldom longer than a few days. After I was run over, the muscles that took the impact, really act up.
What concerned me was that mid ocean, where can you get firewood/coal, unless you have a supply on the boat. Personally I would have opted for a solar water heater that can warm water to put in a hot water bottle. Such a bottle can be filled with sea water as it is not intended for drinking!
If I ever sailed to the Pacific from SA, I would use the Panama Canal - or go via China. I realise that neither is a cheap option, but in my case, money is not nearly as important as not being cold, but that is just me! Being retired and divorced, my time at the moment and is not dictated by anyone.
Hi Stephen! Yes...we do have concerns over it being messy in the boat...but we both hate the smell of diesel , and we just can’t bring any more diesel on this boat. We won’t be using the wood stove while sailing in cold weather...we will be using the engine heater when needed or if the engine is running. We have a nice new hot water heater, and your idea for a hot water bottle is a good idea. And an even better idea to fill it with salt water, just boiled in a kettle to cuddle up with. I also saw some some 12 volt electric blankets and and 12 volt heated pads. If I can fly back to the US and bring these back in my suitcase I will. I have no idea why they are so expensive to ship. When I got the Cubic Mini it was gonna cost almost the same to ship it as it did to buy it...partly how I justified my trip to the US! But now trips to the US are going to be a little more difficult. Do you know of anywhere in South Africa where we can buy 12 volt electric blankets or mattress pads. That would be a good supplement to the wood stove. -Rebecca on SV Brick House
I have no idea where you could find 12v accessories like heated blankets, but to tell the truth, I have never needed to look! I did once buy a bean type bag that heated in a microwave, but I assume that on a boat, this must be nearly useless. Maybe you should look into a solar geyser for Brick House that will warm water in the sun. These should be readily available, although actually finding an outlet may need some serious enquiry - from a Builders Supply type store - a Mica or Builders Warehouse store. Then a hot water bottle can be filled with warmed up sea water. A random thought that may or may not have merit. Other thing is that anywhere you sail is probably going to have sun.
Stephen Killick Patagonia May have some sun, but I think mostly just cold gloomy weather. Sort of like Cape Town today :) All ideas have merit, because they all could spark other ideas. I am pretty determined to make sure we stay warm as we head to even colder climates. Patrick was even watching videos about sailing in Antarctica. I’ve put my foot down on that one! A woodstove will be really hard to keep loaded with fuel there! -Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife I could never sail in or to Antarctica. It is by definition way too cold for me to do anything, since after I was run down, my muscles that were damaged - the whole left side of my body - complain bitterly if the temperature gets as low as 18 degrees Celsius. True enough, Antarctica rarely has temperatures that are positive figures, but what I have seen on TV is that there is not much to see there except snow and ice. If I want to see ice, all I need do is open the freezer - in fact that operates at temperatures that are WARMER than the South Pole - go figure!
That’s hilarious...I agree wholeheartedly. We may take a cruise there on a nice big heated boat that isn’t a sailboat, but never on Brick House. It will be cold enough in Patagonia. -Rebecca
This solid fuel heater addition is the way to go over all others. However, diversifying your ways of heating would be optimal. Where seasoned wood and coal is not available, have a diesel heater for backup. Also when sleeping, after the fire has gone out, the diesel heater kicks on via thermostat. As the old adage goes, 'two is one, one is none'. I would never heat with propane on any boat, way too humid. Thanks much! - from coastal Alaska.
Thanks a ton for your comment. Very good advice. May get one of those cheap Chinese diesel heaters yet, for a backup heater as you are suggesting...carry some wood, find some wood, carry some extra diesel by put not tons... we do have a couple of backup methods now...but your plan sounds like a VERY sensible me....oh but there is that diesel heater Routing of fuel, and install and electricity....hmmmm.everything on a boat is a compromise, isn’t it? Thanks again for the very sensible advice on how to heat a boat! -Rebecca
You surely made a quality install, I certainly envy the availability of some of the bits you used, it looks like great stuff. I got two comments: A friend of mine used a straight copper pipe through the overhead, it was beautiful.....and when he fired the stove up, the copper expanded and shoved the deck fitting for the Charlie Nobel right up through the deck, screws torn out and all. He refitted it with a bit of a jog next time. The other thing is to use Anthracite (blacksmithing) coal....one can find it at most feed stores, I used it for a couple years whilst I was living aboard in the boatyard during the 5 year build of my schooner back in the 70's. The little stove would bank up all night, sometimes. Best fortune to you....and winds over the quarter....-Veteran '66-68
Thanks so much. Interesting about the copper! I’ve tried Anthracite while in Africa… and seems it needs more air under it than the stacking if it allows…like it needs it’s own little tray with air under it or something. Did you use something special? Anyways…thanks for watching…
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife Hola! I neglected to mention that my little stove was designed for coal/wood and had a grate at the bottom so there was good air flow. It was a LONG time ago and was a 'boatyard' thing, we never actually went sailing with it, but replaced it with forced air diesel plus a wall mount diesel drip in the forward cabin. Both worked very well. When we wintered over in Alaska, we had a solid dodger with the cockpit full enclosed with canvas.....sure was nice to be warm and cozy. .... -Veteran '66-68
I looooove a wood stove and have one designed for our boat but not yet built. Tom Cunliffe has a great video on his solid fuel stove, and has a clever idea for protecting the flue. Dawn Treader also has a great piece on their cubic mini stove and some enjoyable perspectives on what it means to them. All warmth and practical considerations aside, the shear pleasure of the dancing flames would all the excuse needed to instal one. Tom Cunliffe talks about keeping coal on board as a fuel for the longer passages while Dawn Treader loves to use shore wood including pine cones. All part of the great adventure.
Yes...saw Dawn Treaders video on their Cubic Mini, and actually exchanged a lot of emails with them last year when we were contemplating getting this wood stove, among many other heatings systems. It was one of their most favorite parts of cruising that area, and kept them very warm...(ruclips.net/video/PDIXOq8Ag_A/видео.html) Thanks for reminding me about the pine cones, though I would think a lot of sap in pine cones?!? And yes...Tom Cunliffe... (ruclips.net/video/uvLQO15Mbr0/видео.html)...another good one. We may try packing some coal too...we have lots of hides holes which would be perfect. We still have to experiment with coal. It’s nice to be wishing for cooler nights so we can use it more. Nothing like a little fire to cuddle up next to! So far so good with our little Cubic Mini! Small but creates so much heat! -Rebecca
Patrick Childress Sailing : Hi Rebecca, the advantage of having at least some coal is that it doesn’t matter if it gets soaked. A good backup for periods of miserable wet weather. I am so looking forward to installing our log fire for next winter. I’m still installing the hydronic system which will eventually be connectable to a heating chamber in the log fire to save diesel. I so wish I had Patrick’s tenacity, he just powers in and gets things finished.
When I bought my 1980 42ft Custom Swan-like vessel, it came with a Espar D5 unit - forced air unit. Probably same as your old one. I ran it 24/7 through the entire first winter season in the PNW bitching about how much power it consumed. I was at a local chandlery this summer and saw they had a used Simar 100 diesel heater - prior to dickinson purchasing the brand. I have it mounted on the forward bulkhead before you enter the head/vbirth hall way.
The heat this puts off is amazing - far better than the Espar imo. The Espar generates great heat, i can keep the boat at 90 if i wanted, but power burn is so great. The bulkhead unit keeps our boat incredibly warm regardless. I installed the electric fan to the base of the unit for those windy days with a variable speed controller. Our 2 gallon tank will last around 1.5 days if we are running on high and will easily last 2-2.5 days if we keep it low.
My neighbor on an 40footer has the Cubic Mini Cub. He is able to keep his boat toasty warm and the unit works great! I considered the Cubic Mini as well, however, the storage of wood is the primary reason I chose to go with diesel. I always figured if we headed north to Alaska or south towards Chile, carrying at least 8 jerry cans on deck(4 cans on both sides of the boat) gives me roughly 1.5 months of burn on the high side which should get me somewhere that could be A - warmer or B- refueled.
Another thing to note - Running our Espar, it helps with the getting the boat drier, however we never see 60% humidity where as the Sigmar heater we can easily see 40% humidity! I'd assume the cute Cubic Mini will be able to do the same thing!
Great information all the way around..thank you. You have had your share of heating systems. We carry about 8 jerry cans of diesel on deck to get us to and from...I can’t imagine another 8, or 24 if we need to be off the grid for 6 months as we are expecting to be. I suppose anything is possible. How to do you run your diesel to the unit...I just hated watching those installations..there is really nowhere good to run even the smallest lines of diesel on this boat, and after all the running if we then smelled the diesel we would have both been unhappy. It definitely seems, for sure, that there are pros and cons with every heating system for a boat, and none that are clearly the absolutely best heating system for a boat. You just have to think about what is going to fit your situation the best. I am sure there will be times I wish I could push a button, but the simplicity, nothing to fix, and always having fuel without carrying tons around with us through the Chilean fjords etc,..the Cubic Mini wood stove seems like the best option for us. It would be interesting to see if any boats out there have both a wood burning stove and a Espar type unit of a Dickinson unit, and what they actually default to the most. But I guess who would want to have two flu systems. One hole is enough :) Rebecca
Nice attention to detail Patrick. I like the transition from working in Rbay and then the mountain in the background from Cape Town 🧐 hope you guys are safe in Hout Bay and boat projects are keeping you busy while on Lockdown. Enjoy 👍
I think of you every day, Mike, and wonder how your projects are coming along. I was wondering if I was where you are and in the middle of big projects, how to get some help to camp out in the boat yard so they could continue to work. I hope you are making good progress. We just need to haul out in Cape Town for a day or two to fix a little leak at the rudder shaft log/hull join.....ahhh, so that is where the leak has been coming from for so long! Also want to put on new cap shrouds then all our projects are done....for now, of course. Thanks for the compliment on the video. That was a very time consuming one to put together. Stay healthy!
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife the lockdown has certainly slowed the work for everyone here in Rbay. We are not allowed to get other boats to help us etc so the big tasks lifting engines into place etc are on hold right now but it gives me the chance to get the ones I can do on my own done. Luckily before the shutdown I lifted one new engine and sail drive into place so I have been able to get this all connected and running which helps. New davits and solar panels frame is now in place so that's good. Rgards for now I hope the haul out in Cape Town is cheaper than this end 😉 rgards for now
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Nice instructive video. I will purchase the Mini Cubic when I sail around in Scandinavia next year. Best reg Michael in Norway
mikkerabe1958 We love ours. I’m begging Patrick as I type this to please have a wood stove fire tonight. We have electric heat here at the dock, but a wood fire is so quiet, peaceful and warm. I can’t think of a more comfortable heat! -Rebecca
Bit of useless info, but the box of firestarters that was in the stove, is "Omuruiro" firestarters from Namibia.
Them being in Cape Town at the time, I would have thought they would have the usual box of Blitz...
Bought what was on the shelf ;)
Great video! I will note that in the case of the Dickinson Newport propane fireplaces (P9000 & P12000), no moisture is introduced into the cabin because the whole combustion process is sealed. They use outside air for combustion (down through the stack) so that oxygen in the cabin is not depleted, the flame is fully enclosed, and of course the exhaust is vented out the stack. This is different than the "Cozy Cabin Heater" which uses cabin air and has an open flame whose exhaust is less positively vented.
But clearly, considering the amount of time you plan to be out in the wilderness away from other fuel sources, solid fuel is a good choice for you.
Thanks, Tod. It was a difficult choice which Rebecca agonized over all the options. There was no perfect choice so we will live the adventure we have selected.
One thing I was thinking is you might want to get some sort of flame proof/resistant blanket to cover your settee cushions with whenever you open the stove. This would be especially true if you are burning pine, as it tends to pop and snap a lot and will send small hot coals flying out. It would be a shame to burn a hole in your nice cushions. A 100% wool blanket would be good. www.iwto.org/flame-resistance
Yes..those 2 boat heaters we considered for sure. To get the capacity I felt we needed for heating the boat, we would have had to do the the bigger model the P12000, which comfortably heats a 12 x 12 foot area...which is really only about half the area we would like to have heated. But still I had one on order at one point but then cancelled it. The main problem I have with those units is the propane we would need to have to run it, even if just at night. It’s says you get about 80-100 hours out of one 20 pound bottle. If we ran it just 1/3 of the day...and that’s darn conservative, we would get about 10-12 days out of each bottle. Half that if we ran it much of the day, and just let it go off at night. ..so a week out of each bottle comfortable. Plus it needs electricity for the fan...
If we cruised in remote areas for 6 months, assuming we found one place to fill our propane bottles, we would have to carry 12 bottles. We just couldn’t see that onboard Brick House. So we went with the wood stove. It feels like wood is the only fuel we will be able to find reliably, I hope! -Rebecca
Tod...thanks for reminding me of that unit. I just made an update on our blog to the propane section which goes in to more detail about the various choices. -Rebecca
Another great video from you guys. I always appreciate how well researched and thought out your projects are. I have a 40 foot cutter comparable in size to the valiant, and I have a Dickinson diesel heater. It uses very little diesel but when I fire it up in Southern CaliforniaIt will drive me right out of the boat! Perhaps we will cross paths in the southern latitudes someday. Thanks again
Glassman, I do hope our paths cross down south. It would be nice to have two heat sources, one like yours but if worse comes to worse, we can always crank up our propane oven and hope the carbon monoxide alarms do not go off.
An awesome vid explaining all about options for heating boat... Almost makes me want to go to Patagonia..... Almost.
Haha... I’ve been looking at some other people’s videos about sailing in cold weather...and it makes me wonder if I am crazy to have agreed to go sailing in Patagonia...I think we have the boat ready with the Cubic Mini Wood stove to stay nice and warm aboard...but I wonder if I can EVER stay warm enough with snow all around me! I think I may be nuts to do this! -Rebecca
Thanks, btw, for watching our How to Heat a Boat video, when you aren’t even sailing in to cold weather like us! Hey...your latest video was so great...we enjoyed learning about performance catamarans...maybe we trade boats! -Rebecca
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Hi Jim, Thanks for watching and subscribing. Right now we are locked down in Hout Bay. A very nice place to be for a couple more weeks. Then on to Cape Town and RCYC, Namibia, St Helena, and the Brazil and south to Patagonia slowly! Yes a great adventure!
A good choice in choosing a wood burner for primary heating. The other thing you would need is a good quality folding pruning saw. In comparison with other sources of heating appliances available for small sail boats it is in my opinion the most effective. You safe on diesel, safe on energy consumption from batteries, no messy diesel fuel transfers and dirty messy maintenance. Wood stove is simple to maintain clean out the ashes and every once in a while give the flue a good scrubbing on the inside to clear out any creosote. Wood can be found anywhere, enjoy 😊👍
Fred Baer Thanks for the sound advice regarding the Cubic Mini. A good quality folding pruning saw...so you are the first to not say electric Chian saw. The power consumption of an electric chain saw is concerning to me...do you mean one like this? amzn.to/3a5ihnx -Rebecca on SV Brick House
Hi guys. Great video. I have the same one in my boat and I love it. Not too much winter to use it here in FL but in less than 20 minutes the boat is nice and toasty. The only problem I had was in windy days some smoke gets in.
I lived in S. Florida for a long time and know it can get very cold and windy for a few days at a time, in the winter months. It would be nice to have that heat then. Did you go with just the opening near deck level or do you have an extension to get the stack higher? I wonder if one or the other would work best on windy days.
Great video, I also have a wood stove on my 47' vegabound ketch, but its burn box isn't as big as the mini grizzly, and I'm actually looking into getting one like yours for longer burn times, I also go beach combing to find wood or I find downed dead trees, i actually carry a chainsaw on my boat, and large plastic totes to keep it dry... I'm currently looking at a battery powered chainsaw to buy.... less noise and less fuel to need... a great choice...
Bonnie, let us know if you do go for the larger wood stove and if it is a Grisly, like ours. Hadn't thought much about the wood cutting aspect so you gave us some good ideas. Thanks for your information!
If my memory serves me, you are in a small seaside town near Cape Town. My personal favourite is Stellenbosch not fat up the N1 towards Johannesburg - although if you wanted to walk to Stellenbosch, I would not recommended that! It is a beautiful village right in the middle of some of the best wine growing area. Before I gave up drinking alcohol - religious reasons - my favourite wines were from grapes grown not far from Stellenbosch. These are many wineries around here and it is fun - for a wine drinker - to go on a pub type crawl free wine tasting and more often than not, there is a restaurant attached to the winery. I used to buy whole cases of wine and I know you cannot buy a case of red wine and lay it down to age properly. White wines are better for yacht owners as you can usually drink them from brand new.
In Cape Town i found it interesting to drive up signal hill, almost in the centre of town,, and watch the firing of the Noon Gun - fired every day at Noon.
I know that our lockdown ends at the end of April. If you get a chance walking around the Small Craft Harbour is interesting - lots of craft shops and many classy restaurants. I have seen in the harbour there, penguins and we lions..
Hi Stephen Killick...good to hear from you! Yes..we are on lockdown over til end of April...should have saved our boat work like the wood stove installation, until now, and played before. We had just finished our boat projects, rented a car when they announced lockdown, so we returned it. Can’t wait to get to Stellenbosch and the other sights! -Rebecca
Nice, you are getting a steamboat! :-) Can't wait till you guys can move again!
Happy greetingz, Wim
Haha...yes...we can’t wait til we can move again too! This video about the installation of of Cubic Mini Wood stove was a tough one to edit...but hopefully now , maybe we can get ahead with videos during the lockdown here. Where are you guys? -Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife Well, the edit was good, because it was a clear explanation of everything you did. :-) Woodstove is cosy!
Yeah, that lockdown... I hope it isn't neccesary anymore soon, but I don't hold my breath. Well, we are not ready yet anyway. We are still in Greece, at the same spot where we bought the boat. A few more jobs and we are ready enough to sail, weren't it for that coronabeastie!
-Wim
If you wound a copper tube around the chimney you could warm water as well
I may have to try that :)
Love the cubic mini
Thanks...do you have a Cubic mini wood stove for heat on your boat too? -Rebecca on SV Brick House
Fine install and video, excellent thankyou.
Thanks for watching and commenting on our Cubic Mini wood stove installation. So far, we love it! -Rebecca
Heater very important to have on the open ocean, for me many times very cold ,even in Hawaii islands too for me the mostly cold at night .Heater on the boat extremely important. You guys have a good Heater I like it very much
Thanks. Yes i love our Cubic mini woodstove though right now not thst useful because we are in the Caribbean!
Greetings from Marseille France. Great vidéo. Great diy capabilities.
Thank you Chris for your nice comment.
Aloha from beautiful Hawaii islands ⛵️ 🏝 Good and important to have on the boat heater . Wood solution the best I would say . Amazing episode I really like it .Good luck
Oh thanks so much for watching it. Yes we love our cubic mini that’s for sure!!!
Patrick, great job on the installation.
Forget about that commenter who suggested you should just ‘get harder’ he is half crazy.
fyi I had a dock - mate who was born and raised in Labrador, a particularly cold and damp area, and he not only had a furnace in his boat
But also had as electric blanket in his bed, and he claimed it was marvellous for taking that last bit of moisture and dampness
from The bedclothes, just turn it on for 1/2 hour before turning in.
Personally, I would have used a small diesel burning stove, because you will need to store a large volume of dry wood
And dry wood is hard to get. You might be able to use ‘hard’ coal.
If the wood burner does not work out, you can switch to a diesel stove easily, I think the double wall pipe, deck flange
and heat deflector will work ‘ as is’ with diesel. Lastly diesel stoves don’t burn much fuel, about 1 gallon per day should keep you toasty, 24/7.
Thanks for the video.
+1 on the electric blanket. The only spot on Eagle 1 that is ever damp is the bed in the owner's cabin. I have an electric blanket that I turn on just before bed and it takes the damp chill right out. Only works on shore power though, so not the best solution. I'm adding vented louvers under the bed to help the warmer cabin air circulate down where the cold air is collecting and causing condensation.
Hi Edward, Every RUclips channel gets screwballs and their comments. Normally I just immediately delete them and block that person so they cannot comment again. This one I thought there might be some hope for since I have the background he was proposing. Now, of course it shows, he has no background and is a total screwball.
Rebecca does endless research on things before making decisions on parts we put on this boat, whether it is a new sail, chart plotter or heating source. For our situation, the destination and lack of supplies available in such a remote area, had a large bearing on the final decision. Only because of all the positive comments from cruisers who have had a wood stove on their boat for years, did we finally go that route. Boat builders have been installing wood stoves on yachts since the 1950s. Slocum certainly had one on the Spray. We will see how it all works out. We have friends in Alaska who said they go through 2.5 gallons of diesel a day for their heater. Here is an initeresting video by Tom Cunliffe, the British marine journalist. ruclips.net/video/uvLQO15Mbr0/видео.html Thanks for watching our videos and your comment. Always appreciated.
Winter sailing up here in Canada means we have heat in our sailboat. I did have a terrible (Volvo) diesel furnace in my Catalina 36 but it WAS "always broken" so I replaced it with a Dickenson diesel bulkhead mount. Believe me, there was LOTS of heat! It was a pain to get started and often sent smoke into the cabin if I didn't get it started correctly.
My current boat (Ontario 32) came with a Dickenson "solid fuel" (wood stove). I found it not sufficient to heat the cabin and I had to feed it every hr or so so I couldn't leave it running overnight. It's nice for a cheery fire in the evenings, but I added a Wabaso diesel furnace that works great and heats the cabin nicely.
Good to know. I hate the idea of figuring out how to carry tons more diesel for 6 months, and running it through the boat, and the idea of running the engine more to charge the batteries to run a unit like that, but if we find the Cubic Mini not up to the task we will have to figure out something else. The couple times we have run it in chilly weather it heats up a lot...like open the windows and get some cool air in here...but we haven’t been in super cold weather yet either. Nice to have your summary on heating your boats...great information. Wish there was an easy way. 6 months in cold weather at anchor every night may just be the death of us ;) -Rebecca
You guys are incredible. This is SO SO SO SO SO SO helpful! Hoping to get one of these stoves soon. Cant wait to watch more of your videos. Thanks again. :)
Ah thanks so much fir watching...glad its been helpful!
A friend has a smaller solid fuel heater on his boat. Most of the time, he heats with charcoal, which is readily available here in the states but might not be where you are going. You might want to pick up a bag of charcoal to start things, and then that will allow you to burn any wet/green wood you might pick up. My boat has a flat spot on deck for installing a pipe, but I have not seen the need yet.
That is a good idea. I think we will also carry regular coal when it is available. This stove will burn anything....maybe fish bones too. All the early explorers burned penguin and seal blubber. Oops, better not suggest that as someone will take that seriously.
I have a small wood stove . It’s 17” high x 7” wide 8” deep. It doesn’t have a window but it sure puts some heat out. I use it all the time it is brilliant. The only thing is that I have a pilot house and the stove is next to the steps down to the main saloon. So the heat tends to go up to the pilot house. So I will try a fan next winter.
The living room in my house in Rhode Island had a cathedral ceiling. The wood burning stove would also send a lot of heat up but the ceiling fan did a good job of blowing it back down and circulating it throughout the rest of the house....so it seems your pilot house would benefit from a simple Hellafan. Thanks for your comment.
I will miss this from Patrick so unfair he has gone.
Yeah so true
I use Bonne Maman jam jars for screws too!
Cool! I save a lot of plastic and glass jars for storage of food and whatevers. I eat a lot of peanut butter and preserves so I have a good collection.
Hello Patrick and Rebecca! That was some quick thinking at 11:55.
Could you burn pellets? They're pretty clean, and relatively easy to stock up on, at least around here. If there's coal can you get anthracite hard coal?
I don't know much about this subject, other than I've always loved diesel drip heaters and stoves. Getting the flue pipe hot as quickly as possible seems the most important thing. One guy heated his with a torch.
If you're not going to enlarge the hole in the deck, what if you stuck "asbestos" rope up in that interface. Not real asbestos since the 1980's, but fiberglass imitation asbestos. It comes in different diameters of "rope" as well as square sectioned cord like some types of shaft packing. Or it comes in tapes like a roll of biax tape (but cheaper). That is what I am used to lagging exhaust pipes with and it makes a heck of a difference as far as letting heat radiate out. You can leave it unsealed but I prefer to finish it with Lagging Adhesive for a smooth washable finish. Not sure what's available these days, but we used to use Borden, or Arabol, or Easy Deck (definitely not kiwi deck), it was all the same: white water base thick glue-like stuff that is easy to brush on. Seems like it was a dairy product but I'm not sure about that. I would think that most any seaport would have( a shipyard or) a maker of asbestos "blankets" who would have all of that stuff on hand. Asbestos blankets are a very common component of engine exhaust systems aboard ships. Asbestos blankets are removable, and asbestos lagging is permanently applied, although its easy to cut off if necessary. Again, these things are asbestos in name only, not real asbestos anymore (mostly).
Personally, I would consider a removable 6' wide asbestos blanket around the furled main or mainsail cover, seems like it's going to be very hot around there.
All the Best to you both.
All good ideas, Marty. There is no need to enlarge the hole in the coach roof as it is already to specifications. It just needs the addition of a stainless steel surround in addition to the fiberglass flange I made. Easy enough. The stove is built to burn anything, even the furniture if need be. I used the fiberglass "exhaust tape" you are talking about to wrap our new diesel engine exhaust riser. That is in our rebuilding the heat exchanger video. I would not want to stuff that into the ceiling cavity as the perforated ceiling ring needs to breathe room air into that area. Thanks again for your tips.
Re the cut you made to fit your 4"sleeve on the exterior chimney and, for that matter, all your stove pipe cuts ,in my install of the same stove, therefore all the same install issues,I used a small portable table saw for my sleeve( for a more precise cut) and I did a simple cross cut configuration,1st cut makes 2 slots then turn and pipe 90 ° for your second cut ,leaving 4 adjustable slots to slide over dickenson deck fitting,then for the horizontal cut for your pipe length I used a small portable radial arm saw. The issue I had in the past which justified all these tools over the quick and dirty angle grinder method was 1) the lack of precision of it but perhaps more importantly to me was 2) modern ss is so flimsy and delicate too much heat discolors the finish and to me is somewhat unsightly and with the use of a nice sharp blade we can make a nice clean and relatively accurate cut. Anyway, nice job otherwise, and in the end, if your content with your work that's all that matters. Oh also I was thinking of installing a removable support structure for my chimney when at full height as some areas of the world get quite windy and a hose clamp isn't quite sufficient but so far it's not flown off but I'm worried she may one day take up one of those water sports like swimming or worse yet diving.
Ah glad to hear you are enjoying your cubic mini wood stove…the install was a fun challenge for Patrick :)
That's a nice stove, for sure it will heat very well. One thing though is there are Few Trees in patagonia so drift wood may be hard to get. Should have a couple bales of wood pellets stored on board for that possibility. Look up Leave Everything and Wander on the utubes, they just finished a trip to terre del Feuago. It will give you a tip on the terrain there. CHEERS AND FAIR WINDS Steve h.
Thank you very much for the information. We will definitely look "Leave Everything.... some of the other sources we watched appear to have been misleading. Thanks.
I just watched LEW, their 2 vids at the end of the earth. They drove through very tall forests then went for a dip in the ocean south of Port Williams. The beach was heavily loaded with bleached out old wood. Perfect. We will have no problem fueling the stove. This was good to see. Thanks!
This just in from our friend preparing to sail from Patagonia direct to New Zealand where they are from. They have the exact same setup as we do, with a wood stove and an engine heater, but not the same wood stove...but a homemade woodstove. They have been in Patagonia for 5 months now, and have loved it, and have had no problem finding wood. Here is what they wrote:
“Evertything else we love about the woodstove,even the wood gathering is a positive for me providing much needed exercise.
To date its been done by thick tooth carpeters handsaw,,lately a bow saw of chinese origin that cuts in circles,(they really have a lot to answer for lately) .I split it with a hatchet...
To keep up supply? Well an hour or two in good weather will produce 40 litres of wood.We use 20 bucket as our wood bucket for the fire...A cold night,half a bucket.Stuck at anchor? A whole bucket.But your warm,have endless hot water,dry your clothes and boots and rain gear with a totally renewable heat source,and something to do for the day...get wood!
The trick is to stay ahead of useage,I use about 3 old sail bags on rotation for gathering,and there just under a cover on the coach roof.The days where your motoring all day in a canal,tip em out and dry em,two days of this will produce usable wood.
If I was to improve my gathering Id maybe use a small chainsaw,or maybe a rechargeable saw...the ones where the blade goes in and out.reciprocating??
You guys probably have one knowing how organised you are...and wood gathering will stop Patrick taking pictures of himself all the time!
Ha,no offense,there enjoyably awse videos guys,and I know how much work is involved doing them...well done..
As far as supply,well its everywhere.Weve never anchored when I couldnt go and find a stick to burn. Argie bollocks the info you were told...Anyway,if nothing in your bay,there will be in the next one,and youve mostly got a dinghy in for shorelines...more exercise rowing around to it!
The engine heater has been great too,a commercial one with low draw fan.Motoring days are toasty...but push come to shove,without one Id light the fire! And have done!”
Great choice and it looks great 👍
Thanks, Brad. We have high hopes for it.
The stove is perfect for warmer climates as the burn time isn't long enough for the northern latitudes. Up where I am I use a blaze king wood stove as we can get down to-60°.
That’s cold
I don't want denigrate a really nice install, and while I may not know much about boats, I have been heating with wood for nearly half a century so I hope you will pardon me when I say they call those "Magic Fans" because they give the illusion of moving air about. I would wait for their one year review of it before getting out the visa/mc.
skating2entropy oh...this Caframo ecofan does seem to move the air, but we aren’t using the wood stove every day yet. We will try to do an update of both the cubic min as well as the Caframo fan when we have had the decks covered in snow later this year ;) -Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife It is also true that they may have improved the efficiency of that technology since I last looked into it. I hope it works out for you.
perfect place for this lockdown!the open seas...
Yes agreed. Except it may be hard to find wood for the Cubic Mini wood stove! -Rebecca
I like your use of the vacuum when you cut.
Thanks, Chip. That vacuum is a cheap little thing that uses water rather than a dust collection bag. It has been a big help on our previous hull repair project. Watch part 2 of the blister repairs and you will see how much sanding dust that vacuum caught when using the random orbit sander.
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife What brand is it? Love all your videos. Good job.
Thinking of you Rebecca ....from NY 🇺🇸
Thanks Christine.
I feel sorry for Patrick. Thinking of you Rebecca. I never meet you but I I am fun of you. Υour videos filled me with inspiration and courage
Thank you so much...
Hi Patrick, just watching you fitting your solid fuel stove. I would take your penetration flue section to a TIG welder and weld your stainless steel joints. The silicone idea sounds good but I am afraid it will not perform as you hope. Penetrations should be triple lined with air flow thru one of the sleeves. (I install domestic solid fuel heaters for a living). I like your
Too bad, Linda. It looks like part of your comment did not make it and disappeared. Thanks for your advise. It is well taken.
Nice Video my friend 😎🎬 Keep it up and stay save 😷👍
TV, thanks for watching.
Top idea Rebecca moving that timber batten....your not only a pretty face on SV Brick house.
Haha. Thanks for watching Dennis...it’s all working out well...it’s amazing how how all the surfaces surrounding the Cubic Mini and the Mount are nice and cool...we are enjoying our little woodstove even here in South Africa! -Rebecca
Woodstove backed-up to the fridge seems counterintuitive
Right now, as we move into the fall and winter in S.Africa, the entire boat is a refrigerator. When mounting these stoves, it is absolutely necessary to have at least a one inch air gap on all sides, including the back mounting as what is shown in the video. Past that air gap on the back, is the sheet of vermiculite then all the ice box insulation which gives a very good R factor. The fan on top blows the heat into the main saloon, rather than the galley. But....all this is an aside to the fact that there was absolutely no other place to mount this stove in this boat! I don't even like it being this high and would prefer it being much lower in the boat. So we have to live with what we have. Sometimes, it would be nice to have a bigger boat.
We had a very hot long fire in the stove last night..getting colder here! And you can touch the back of the meta and it still cold hours later! The mount is working fantastically! -Rebecca
wood stove, i used 3/8'' SS plate over, 1 inch are space . 1/2 mohog, over bulkhead empty wall other side for bolt heads . only heat , plenty . paper charts, congratulation.
Thanks, sounds similar to our installation of our cubic mini woodstove. Do you have a cubic mini woodstove, or another kind? Have you been happy with your installation of the stove? Is it keeping the heat at bay? Rebecca on Sv Brick House
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife Dickinson Marine 00-NEWSF Newport Solid Fuel Heater , wood burn. oil lamp . no electric . . have battery VHF , AND battery , Honda start. solar running lights. , paper charts '' i am primitive ha ha ''
spymaine89 Have you found the Newport solid fuel stove adequate? How big is your boat by the way. The description on those say up to 25 foot boat, but maybe that’s Ok if you can shut off the front and back of the boat and just heat the main Salon. -Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife GETS HOT. 24FT FIBERGLASS CRUISING SLOOP , full keel, shoal draft.
never been in real cold, like where you head. . and i dont want to, ha ha. . i like to play no major adventures.
will enjoy watching you.. there are people that cruise in the arctic, one guy had 2 heaters, diesel i think. , check that out , .
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife a great question!
When it comes to heating there are as many choices as there are opinions on which is the best as there are pros and cons for each system.
Robin, it was a very difficult decision and was greatly determined by the destination, where there is a big lack of supplies available.....but wood is everywhere. Thanks again for your new comment.
For sure. You're not exactly going to be parked in a cosy marina! : )
just a little thing on your engine coolant fan heater
I drive a Prius, and if you realise it or not the engine only runs about half the time. Of course on an ordinary car this would normally mean half the time you would be without cabin heat. Toyota in their wisdom though have the coolant run through an insulated flask so that an amount of coolant is hotter longer. I can literally finish with the car early evening, and the coolant is still providing heat at start up the next morning. I have no idea how large the insulated flask is, but it certainly works.
The interior of your boat looks pretty tidy, I have to work on that and got some ideas out of it
Interesting idea...will have to google that one some more. Do you think it would work with a Diesel engine heating it, where it runs all the time? -Rebecca
@@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife type of engine makes no difference, its the principle of insulating the coolant reservoir so that it remains hot.
Im sure running the heater will bleed heat, but it will carry on longer after the engine is off.
RIP to a good man
cutting a hole through the boat roof...wow...if you ever needed to measure thrice, cut once...this is it. very impressive
There is always a bit of luck involved and with that hole, I had a lucky day cutting the hole for our new wood stove ;)
I love you both !!! And miss you lots!!!
An thanks..I bet it’s hot there!!! Maybe a wood stove for your place? ;) -Rebecca on SV Brick House
Shereen, we certainly hope you are doing well. Good to hear from you. Patrick
I work at a garage company. So much waste come in every day so much goes to land fill. A lot of cool things come in every day that people throw away
So true...maybe a woodstove can get rid of some of that trash!