Again a great video, it is great to see someone judge themselves like this, in my opinion this is something very new in our sport, but please don't be to harsh on yourself, these are all mistakes every one of us did when starting out, and just being able to do a role gives you so much confidence in every situation, so don't judge to hard, in my opinion you're doing great
Good job of self critique and coming up with what to improve about your roll. The comfort underwater is a big deal and something the guys said helped me progress quickly in learning my roll. How cold is that water? I don't think I would be able to stay very calm in cold water. Once you get your flatwater roll where you want it you'll have to do one of these videos of you practicing out in the surf.
Thanks! The water isn't that cold, probably around 10-12C.. so great for practicing. I really just need to remind my self to stay calm and take a minute (and hope that thought doesn't disappear as soon as I hit the water 😂)... Hopefully some surf videos soon! I can't wait to go back out into the surf again 💪
Nice video! I personally also learn al lot by watching you commenting on your roll, so thanks! Actually something I noticed is that you mostly seem to roll up based on your hip snap and not so much through the use of your paddle (which in fact is a good thing in many ways). For example if you look at the still at 2:56 in your video you can see your paddle in an almost perpendicular position to the water surface with your upper (left) arm pointing at the sky. Your right blade hardly seems to put any pressure on the water here. However, I think at this point in your roll (and throughout most of the roll) your paddle should be as parallel to the water surface as possible so that it does actually provide pressure when you pull down on it. A way to do this is to keep the upper part of your upper (in this case your left) arm closer to your body. I personally always try to keep my elbow of this arm close to my pfd stretching my other arm. I noticed kind of the same thing happening during your high brace. Still, you get upright and fast, so you have not too much to worry about anyway.. but if you are aiming to perfect your roll then this would be something I would look at ;) Good luck!
Great point! Thanks for the explanation, it's definitely worth looking into. I have some rolling scheduled tomorrow so I'll try and figure out if I can do anything to improve it!
@@PaddlinDutchman I think this would be a good video to watch: ruclips.net/video/cBtL3Ko4Nfs/видео.html On the one hand because it sort of disproves the importance I just gave to having pressure on your blade during your roll as with a good hipsnap you might as well do without it. In fact it seems you might have already reached the final step of the drill he mentions to test your hipsnap (see at 1 minute 15), or was it just luck? I'd like to see a new video of you trying this :p Also for the rest of the video: I think what he explains about paddle dexterity is a really good thing to practice with, and also have a look at the 'form' of the paddlers in the video (upper body and arms). Again, good luck! I might give this a try after my slalom practice tonight as well :D
Nice video! This has nothing to do about the roll, but in the start it looked like you had some problem getting into the kayak by yourself? What have personally helped me a lot, is to try to have more fun outside the boat. I often sit on the back deck paddling, and I also try to do some stand up paddling. All this really helps with my balance, which aslo helps me to easier get in and out of the kayak. Peace! ✌🏼
Thanks! Yeah that clip I just put in for fun 🙃... I am getting used to the "smaller" cockpit of the Virgo (I could host a pool party in my old cockpit 😂)... This was the first scramble I did since probably last summer, so I made some stupid mistakes. But I always like adding footage of me falling in 🌊
I think focusing on 'getting relaxed underwater' is not necessarily the best path. There is nothing relaxing about having to roll for real. In a more real situation you will actually have to fight to get your body in the set up position in turbulent water. So its about training your mind to keep working while upside down and under stress. When we are training we step up the situational element once the basics are good. So like you say start flipping in different positions, but also ask people to tip you over when not expecting it. We also flip people several times in a row or deliberately prevent their first roll working, to increase the realism (and stress). It can be quite fun but it instills confidence that their roll will work in any situation.
Yes hang time is good to practice
Again a great video, it is great to see someone judge themselves like this, in my opinion this is something very new in our sport, but please don't be to harsh on yourself, these are all mistakes every one of us did when starting out, and just being able to do a role gives you so much confidence in every situation, so don't judge to hard, in my opinion you're doing great
Thanks so much!
Good job of self critique and coming up with what to improve about your roll. The comfort underwater is a big deal and something the guys said helped me progress quickly in learning my roll. How cold is that water? I don't think I would be able to stay very calm in cold water. Once you get your flatwater roll where you want it you'll have to do one of these videos of you practicing out in the surf.
Thanks! The water isn't that cold, probably around 10-12C.. so great for practicing. I really just need to remind my self to stay calm and take a minute (and hope that thought doesn't disappear as soon as I hit the water 😂)... Hopefully some surf videos soon! I can't wait to go back out into the surf again 💪
Nice video! I personally also learn al lot by watching you commenting on your roll, so thanks! Actually something I noticed is that you mostly seem to roll up based on your hip snap and not so much through the use of your paddle (which in fact is a good thing in many ways). For example if you look at the still at 2:56 in your video you can see your paddle in an almost perpendicular position to the water surface with your upper (left) arm pointing at the sky. Your right blade hardly seems to put any pressure on the water here. However, I think at this point in your roll (and throughout most of the roll) your paddle should be as parallel to the water surface as possible so that it does actually provide pressure when you pull down on it. A way to do this is to keep the upper part of your upper (in this case your left) arm closer to your body. I personally always try to keep my elbow of this arm close to my pfd stretching my other arm. I noticed kind of the same thing happening during your high brace. Still, you get upright and fast, so you have not too much to worry about anyway.. but if you are aiming to perfect your roll then this would be something I would look at ;) Good luck!
Great point! Thanks for the explanation, it's definitely worth looking into. I have some rolling scheduled tomorrow so I'll try and figure out if I can do anything to improve it!
@@PaddlinDutchman I think this would be a good video to watch: ruclips.net/video/cBtL3Ko4Nfs/видео.html On the one hand because it sort of disproves the importance I just gave to having pressure on your blade during your roll as with a good hipsnap you might as well do without it. In fact it seems you might have already reached the final step of the drill he mentions to test your hipsnap (see at 1 minute 15), or was it just luck? I'd like to see a new video of you trying this :p Also for the rest of the video: I think what he explains about paddle dexterity is a really good thing to practice with, and also have a look at the 'form' of the paddlers in the video (upper body and arms). Again, good luck! I might give this a try after my slalom practice tonight as well :D
Nice video! This has nothing to do about the roll, but in the start it looked like you had some problem getting into the kayak by yourself? What have personally helped me a lot, is to try to have more fun outside the boat. I often sit on the back deck paddling, and I also try to do some stand up paddling. All this really helps with my balance, which aslo helps me to easier get in and out of the kayak. Peace! ✌🏼
Thanks! Yeah that clip I just put in for fun 🙃... I am getting used to the "smaller" cockpit of the Virgo (I could host a pool party in my old cockpit 😂)... This was the first scramble I did since probably last summer, so I made some stupid mistakes. But I always like adding footage of me falling in 🌊
@@PaddlinDutchman Cool, keep on putting in bloopers! :D You make great videos!
I think focusing on 'getting relaxed underwater' is not necessarily the best path. There is nothing relaxing about having to roll for real. In a more real situation you will actually have to fight to get your body in the set up position in turbulent water. So its about training your mind to keep working while upside down and under stress. When we are training we step up the situational element once the basics are good. So like you say start flipping in different positions, but also ask people to tip you over when not expecting it. We also flip people several times in a row or deliberately prevent their first roll working, to increase the realism (and stress). It can be quite fun but it instills confidence that their roll will work in any situation.