Netherlands rattled by a string of drug mafia murders | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2023
- A string of mafia-style murders in the Netherlands has led to questions about whether drug gangs are threatening the rule of law in the country. The high-profile killings include that of investigative journalist Peter DeVries. DW correspondent Jack Parrock has been exploring how attempts to shed light on criminal forces behind the country's liberal trade in drugs are coming under pressure from mafia intimidation. Here's his report from the Hague.
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I don't understand why this video has focused so much on the decriminalization of cannabis use and small scale sale in the Netherlands. There is definitely a lot of organized crime (and other problems) that exist because of the grey area system which could have been avoided with full legalization and regulation, but most of the drug mafia related violence creating headlines is due to gangs in the cocaine trade, or at least primarily focused on that. Those issues primarily exist because the port of Rotterdam is the second largest port in the world and obviously the gateway to cocaine importation to Europe etc. - Also surprising that this is coming from DW, since Germany is about to do a much more full scale legalization than the Netherlands ever did.
There was even a town in the Netherlands which criminalized cannabis to deter drug related crimes and literally overnight became FULL of weed dealers and obviously increased drug related crime...
Your 100% right
I agree. 👍
The right question.
How did it increase drug related crime if drugs were made legal? That makes no sense.
@@pakde8002 read his comment again, I think you misunderstood.
Im from thé Netherlands and this is not About cannabis this is pure only About cocaïne .
agree, also they talk about murders, but I see only ONE murder of Peter Devries, or they murdered him many times ?
Incorrect. The gangs that are responsible for cocaine trade also have a big hand in the dealing of synthetic drugs and marijuana within the Dutch border and in export to other countries.
@veled veled is not Holland Police but Dutch Police lol
indeed, wierd story this video is
The cannabis trade is a big deal as well,where do you think all that weed from the coffeshops comes from? still from illegal trade , the murders that have been going on are older vs the newer generation
It is quite irritating that the images and discussion focuses around weed and its legal status, while the recent gang violence has primarily to do with hard drugs like Cocaine.
10/10 this makes it so much harder to have a good discussion
Soft drug is gateway for harder drugs...it's a never ending cycle...once you enter ,u will never returns
@@joexavier2287 what a load of BS. Millions of people smoke and consume cannabis and do not do anything else. Otherwise 10% of Europe’s population would be using hard drugs.
The problem is the lack of actual regulation.
Nobody would say it would be a good idea to ban alcohol sales, which is the true gateway drug, yet for some reason people think naming other drugs will work.
@@MoDa87 ur an uneducated man... Vancouver's one of the first state in Canada legalized soft drugs ,now ther demanding legalization of hard drugs... California also same way no different...u need to open ur eyes..this is a capitalistic world...common people used as Cannon fodder by authorities for money and greed
@@joexavier2287 No, thats proven to be not true. You dont know what you are talking about.
Seems pretty clear to me that the problem is criminalising cannabis production, rather than having legalised the sale of it. Legitimate, licensed, tax-paying businesses could be growing the cannabis to be sold, and coffeeshops required to disclose the source of their products as a licensing condition. Weed isn't inherently produced by criminals, it's a choice to force that market underground.
weed isnt the problem its cocaine
Drug use breeds crime. Legalization makes drug use easier and more attractive, and you won't get rid of a single criminal network. This is an ideologically motivated proposal that only will make things worse, completely useless.
@@bastiaan1838 It's these people's standard response whenever they hear drugs. Legalizing their drugs is all they care about, starting with weed and moving forward to the heavier ones later. None of their policies works, but that's part of the point.
@@anacc3257Cannabis use increases cartoon watching and excessive food consumption, not crime. Studies in the US have shown violent crime falling post-legalisation. The absolute vast majority of people who want to use it will do so anyway, hence the thriving illegal markets in every country in Europe.
Just look to the many cases of alcohol prohibition throughout history - people continue to buy it from unverified or unsafe sources and organised crime grew rapidly. By legalizing alcohol that market was destroyed and replaced with a legitimate one because consumers don't want to interact with criminals and they've been given an alternative. There is nothing inherent about cannabis which connects it to crime, just like coffee or tobacco - and I would suggest the connection you've made is itself ideological, rather than inherent. Any product which people are committed to buying will breed crime if criminalised, and going half way only serves to increase the size of that market (mainly through tourism) without replacing the criminal elements.
"Weed isn't inherently produced by criminals, it's a choice to force that market underground."
Exactly. It's this disastrous policy decision that's caused the problem, under pressure from fatally ill-informed politics.
Funny that they use a photo of weed but all the mafia stuff is definitely more about cocaine...(port of Rotterdam/Mocro Mafia)
Yeah its like $2 worth of weed.
But don't you know the dangers of Reefer Madness!? :P
Crazy !
We should decriminalise all drugs and provide them through government controlled suppliers. Take away all the money from the mafia.
This report segment felt weirdly like it had an anti-marijuana angle
This report is not distinguish enough to the subject. Illegal and high quantity imports of cocaine by the drug mafia vs. legalised use and sales in small quantities of marijuana. There is not any context between these two issues. Also not by law - at least as stated in this report. The law focused on marijuana with limited sum of import. However, someone is smoking the wrong drugs to even put these two together. Get to work.
As someone from the netherlands i feel like what we need to do is fully legalise marijuana, including the production and have a hard crackdown on synthetic hard drugs. And of course Germany and Belgium need to take the same steps otherwise there will be a lot of smugling between EU states.
As someone who works in a coffeeshop, I can completely agree. There is no legal way to properly buy weed as a coffeeshop, which breeds criminality, while if the backdoor gets completely legalised it should negate pretty much all criminal activities in the mariuana underground.
which will lead to more addicted ? not a good idee
Be careful what you wish for. As states began to legalize Marijuana here in the US, drug cartels shifted focus to distribution of opiates and opioid.
@@chrischrischris801 It’s possible if it’s completely regulated. There’re some states that legalized marijuana in recent years but strictly regulated. You need a license to distribute and growers also need a proper license and they’re subject to inspections and they are allowed to grow certain kinds that are not toxic. I don’t do drugs myself but I used to live in a country where people just smoked marijuana like cigarettes. It was more of a serious issue when it was illegal since organized crimes dominate anything illegal but not something legal/regulated. Mostly people who legally use marijuana are prescribed by a medical doctor for medical marijuana purpose but I’m sure Netherlands can do something similar for recreational use. It eradicated some criminal organizations that were rampant in those states. Unfortunately because it differs from a state to state the organized crimes themselves aren’t eradicated. More serious ones are the hard core drugs. There’s a huge money to be made by really ruthless Mexican cartels and people who get hooked on hard core drugs don’t usually recover unless they really want to and mortality rate is very high. But as far as I know I don’t know any literatures that claim the links between the soft and hard core drugs.
@@defcreator187 Then you have the wrong impression of what meditation is.
The framing of this piece is very problematic.
The local cannabis market has little to do with large scale drug criminality. Drug criminality here has to do much more with the international port of Rotterdam being a huge point of entry for cocaine into the rest of Europe. The local production of synthetic drugs, and the crime relating to it is also a large problem.
The dubious legal state of cannabis has little with this situation. Weed is mostly just to amuse British tourists :)
DW, please do better.
Ah yes, another pot head saying anything to justify their habit
Agreed.
Yeap, no doubt about it...
I can't really believe that Netherlands' "liberal" toleration policy towards weed has contributed to a higher drug crime level. The issue is that Rotterdam is the central port for Europe to spread drugs from.
Don’t forget competition
Why does not the West just go the Singapore way
@@dieglhix Which is?
'' mafia murders rattles the Netherlands'' Shows a small bag of weed on the screen, lmfao what a bunch of clowns.
The message in this segment is retarded. As others have said this is about cocaine. I can't understand why they'd mix weed into the picture unless there's some agenda behind it.
On the other hand if you take the Portugese example, drug usage has fallen sharply since decriminalization. Plus if there's nothing for the maffia to trade with, there will be no maffia.
The problem is with the harddrugs where the money is, not so much the softtdrugs. A lot of that is picked up by none Dutch origine youngsters who like to make easy money and are less reluctant to violence. The regular police has a hard time dealing with these partly because they are anxious / avoiding and party because they do not have sufficient law to back them up.
Let's be very clear. We are moving towards legalising production, not criminalising selling of soft drugs. The major factor standing in the way is Germany that wants us to criminalise more, because they see flows of drugs from the Netherlands to Germany. Drug use isn't good, but the solution is making it unappealing without criminalising. Criminalising only the excesses like dumping of chemicals, murder and organised crime.
So many people connected with that case are in danger it wouldn't be a bad idea to get rid of that criminal in an 'accident'.
Someone else will step into his shoes while they are still warm.
What you are missing, and what the people in the know keep mentioning: the problem is that part is still illegal. Not that we partly legalised bits. And the reason why it's still illegal is because neighboring countries don't want it legalised.
Well that is changing. Germany will be the first to try to legalise and regulate it. The USA and canada have shown how it can work.
It is so sad that police and the judiciary are functioning so incredible poorly in The Netherlands. To effectively let organized crime go unchecked is a terrible policy.
The problem is that it's incredibly difficult to figure out who is involved and more importantly to find solid proof of the exact crimes committed. It's not that they're letting it go unchecked on purpose. They're trying really hard, but since it's organized crime they have their ways of communicating without leaving many traces.
One way this could be solved is by giving the police more authority for surveillance, but this is currently not possible due to privacy laws. And these laws are in place so that the government (or individuals within the government) can't abuse their power. The government should protect their people, so they should also protect their people from malicious people within the government. It will always be a compromise between fighting crime and giving the people as much privacy as possible. People have the right to have privacy after all
@@AnimilesYT Well, "incredibly hard to figure out"... isn't that simply the whole job of the police and the judiciary; the job that other developed countries seem to be able to do, but that The Netherlands somehow cannot do?
@@KennyNGA The size of the organized crime problem in The Netherlands is colossal compared to countries such as Germany, Denmark, the UK, or Spain.
@@robertsanders7060 The port of Rotterdam is a big part of the distribution of drugs throughout Europe. From that perspective I could see why organised crime is mainly an issue in the Netherlands. I did a quick Google search and found that Rotterdam Centrum counts the most crimes out of any area in the Netherlands, and I think there's a link between the port and the crime. It could just be a correlation without causation though.
Also, I'd like to mention that I don't think you're completely wrong. We (yes, I'm Dutch) do have an organized crime issue and there are definitely some shortcomings and more can and should be done. And I do think that it's sad that police and judiciary weren't functioning well enough to prevent this from happening. It's just that I believe that "incredibly poorly" is too harsh.
Oh, and I thought of another aspect. There's a reason behind crime. With the price of living and the chance of finding a house to buy or rent being close to 0 for the vast majority of young people also causes a lot of instability. If people can't pay their rent through a normal job then they may look for alternatives. So it could be that the sole cause of the problem isn't even police or judiciary related. I still believe that both of them are lacking in some way though, but I wouldn't put the blame fully on them until I have more information :)
As a Bulgarian, I am compelled to note that such an inability by the Netherlands to control their borders for illicit substances is degrading the Schengen system as a whole. Seems that they have been slaking on their responsibilities.
They can and must do a far better job.
That's irrelevant here, border control has nothing to do with it. Because the hard drugs are produced domestically.
They have some of the largest ports, not just the EU but the world... That issue comes with it.
Actually, Belgium is worse, the Dutch have invested massively in port security the last 5 years, but the gangs are mostly located in the Netherlands ,and use the Belgian port of Antwerp
By the way: no cocaine mafia will ever make for example Varna their main port, because SouthEastern Europe is not where the big money and big population centres are,
not to mention the tiny size of the Bulgarian ports that makes blending in much more difficult...
As a Dutchman... Keep your criminals also in Bulgaria then... If you had any idea how many Bulgarian hard criminals there are in the Netherlands, you would never have mentioned this. Your girls are hot though.
bro #1 netherllands have some of the biggest port in the world. 2. belgium is worse. (even thought we have bigger ports because of port security)
3. a lot of those drugs appear in east europe because peopple want to buy it
Brilliant informative coverage insight and content.
Not really, this makes it seems its all about cannabis, which it has nothing to do with. This is all about cocaine in reality
I assume the gateway vehicle is a bicycle.
there's an entire network dedicated to it, the country is riddled with pathways for it, ubiquity of the bicycle is being peddled to consumers !
Is not about weed is about cocaine
I was looking for this comment. I don't k'ownif DW is dumb or naive
Legalizing drug production business is just a tiny tip of the iceberg. There are a lot of really powerful people who want things to remain as is. From small time smugglers to cartels, business men and politicians. It is THE most lucrative business on the planet after all.
I thought that was porn... (most lucrative business 😉)
There is no legal drugs in the Netherlands besides weed that’s the whole thing… if drugs were legal cartels wouldn’t compete
Makes no sense that coffee shops can sale marijuana, but they can’t purchase it from the marijuana growers? 🤷🏼♀️
What a mess !
Drugs usage is huge problem and high impact solutions should be put in place asap. The air literally is polluted with such drugs wherever you go these days.
*drug gang in Netherlands is mentioned*.
“Let me guess the leader is Moroccan.”
*guy is Moroccan*
“yep”
I mean nothing bad to my Moroccan cousins but you know its become a stereotype, like the Italian mafia.
Yeah, Moroccans make up the largest foreign ethnicity in many European prison systems. Now why that is is another question but it is what it is...numbers don't lie.
Funny how I have to rely on outside media for news like this...Hi from the Netherlands.
😂
Austria is afraid to accept Romania in Schengen because of border security concerns but just look at Netherlands 😂.
Austria should rather demand to exclude Netherlands from Schengen.
In comparison it is 100 times harder to smuggle something over Romanian border and the risk of spending a sentence in Romanian prison is a lot scarier.
what does cocaine have to do with weed? the mobs are fighting of coke, heroine, meth, etc. not weed.
terribly muddled story....
I guess when mafia become more powerful than the government then that's when the peripheral ecosystem get affected; I would say a ripple effect. In Italy and mexico's case the mafia is so powerful that they can influence politicians, security institutions and the justice system. In other words, all the different power institutions of the state. I think that is exactly what is happening in Netherlands. Mafia's have so much of money that they have bought the customs, police officers and even some lawmakers(that is why there is no active discussion about policy reforms). What is the solution? I would say tougher penalty and educating the youths early about life altering consequences of opting a career in mafiadom.
There are no ‘hard’ or ‘soft’ drugs, especially because drugs are so dose dependent. For instance, compare chewing coca leaves and modern indoor grown marijuana concentrate, it isn’t possible to classify chemicals in this way.
Drug gangs exist because of the profit in drug trade. Technocratic policies do nothing to change demand on their own, people have autonomy over their bodies.
If you want to seriously curtail illegal drug use (and the violence that often comes with it), you must create new pathways for legal use.
You don't have to compare chemicals. You could just straight up compare chewing coca leaves to inhaling THC concentrate. Look at the consumption patterns. I think it's pretty easy to come to the rational conclusion that weed is not the same as fentanyl and that you can put drugs onto a chart and draw a soft line across the gradient.
Yah there are. Marijuana is a soft drug, cocaine, heroin, meth etc are hard drugs. Glad we could clear that up.
@@3x157 Yessir, 3x. And long jail sentences for repeated drug use.
@@JK-br1mu
It would make it worse.
@@deniseproxima2601 no it wouldn't. And we know from our own history, 1900s thru 1950s America, that being tough on drugs kept drug use low.
The root of all our crime problems and drug problems is soft on drugs clowns like you. Most criminals arrested for all types of crime test positive for drugs. **Newsflash: People on Heroin Make Bad Decisions**
@5:22 😅 It's good that there is no cocaine grown in the country. I heard the cocaine fruit is hard to be grown there because the cocaine tree doesn't like rain :))
I think you mean 'series of murders'....'murder series' sounds like it's a TV show lol
I remember Peter R. de Vries, and how they took him out, dreadful.
I remember Peter R. de Vries!! He is the one who was investigating James Files about the JFK assassination. I remember when de Vries was test firing the Remington Fireball. I can't believe he was murdered 😲
He was a journalist and has had multiple tv-shows, used his influence and relentless energy solving cold cases and his experience to help families and now was helping a crown whiteness… the mention he got here is very small and so the impact it got doesn’t really show.
In an ironic twist the Netherlands blocked Bulgaria's schengen entry by complaining about being able to pass a 50 euro banknote through the Bulgarian border. Now look what is happening in their own borders. Hypocracy at its finest.
The Rutte government did it to appease the right wingers in the upcoming election. And yes, it is unjustified and hypocritical.
"In the problem areas off southeastern Amsterdam, young men are queuing up to commit murder on behalf of the gangs."
Cees, a police investigator in Amsterdam
Biljmer
This is not even true anymore, the idea that most crime occurs in the southeast is very outdated
Why need the witness when everyone knows who is the kingpin is? This type of justice does not work with the mafia.
Just another weekend in Compton
There's always a fly in the ointment.
i have never seen tourists sitting in coffee shops causing problems in Amsterdam ! only spending money and chilling.
How long will it take for the society to figure out the obvious: delegalizing drugs creates mafias?
look at drugs in macroeconomic terms. criminalizing demand side has led to increased price for the goods and a very high incentivization for those willing to deliver them, not sure if i'm cool with my neighbor buying a dime bag of coke at the gas station but what does a monitored or controlled supply look like (to short circuit the illicit market and the crime associated with import and distribution)? open question
The Dutch are not rattled very fast so this is not the case, and as long as the criminals are killing criminals the Dutch don't see that as a problem.
As long as they don't bother innocent civilians. Know about Peter De Vries, he has been going deeper and deeper into the criminal underworld for decades so he was at a certain point part of that underworld and he choose a side without any protection which ultimately made him a target.
I you know too much you will be eliminated because the guy was just too dangerous.
You need to know the history of the man to make a judgement about him.
In the past he also got a killer out of prison who killed my niece and knifed her 20 times, Because he found a little loophole in the law that happened during the arrest of the killer. As long as he could play the white knight of justice he was larger then life. He always used the law as a moral shield.
The main problem is that the Netherlands is one of the gateways to Europe for a lot of the drugs imported into Europe.
So this still concentrate a lot of criminal elements to get the drugs out of the port.
It is and always will be a cat and mouse game.
drug and crime can't be separate...
I live in the Netherlands and i can say this has nothing to do with cannabis. And it is old news. Nothing new under the sun.
I don’t believe it’s about marijuana… its legal in the Netherlands, it’s not organized crime.
Selling and consuming is legal, nothing else afaik. So there is still a huge problem with legislation.
It’s not legal, it’s tolerated.
not really legal like it is in Portugal though ,we still have a gedoogbeleid,its kinda legal but its not . lot of countries are way ahead these days with legalizing weed and hash
@@Dizle81 no country in Europe has legalised cannabis. Portugal and Spain just have decriminalised possession and consumption of small amounts. You still have to fear the police.
@@MoDa87 So are the gangs. Almost as if they've created this problem for themselves and they don't do anything about it.
This will happen when people is so naive about drugs by legalizing them.
If the government really wanted to that could declare all out war against drug dealers and the mafia and end it once and for all for god with death penalties for every last one of them. The question is will the government take this THAT seriously like they should?
Oh please…. This has nothing to do with legal weed
The elephant in the room is white powder.
0:04, no, it is bad people in authority, it always is.
I feel like smoking weed now but it’s only 8:57 AM
In germany its 4pm there you go
Ah the east coast, out here it's already an hour and 57min too late
Yeah breakfast bongs can be fun, but you will have the sleepies for the rest of the day.
🇲🇦 clans in NL.
🇱🇧 clans in GE.
🇩🇿 clans in FR.
DW, please give the right credit 😅
Fairness in nature. Someone should be dealt with in the dark or the shadows if they operate there. People that disobey the law shouldn't be protected by the law at all!!
Idiotic opinion.
Nepnieuws dit. Omdat ze in Duitsland een discussie hebben rondom de legalisatie van wiet gaan ze de feiten door elkaar halen. Erg irritant!
The war on drugs has been the dumbest thing ever. You can uber staff to your house faster then food 😑 millions lost in taxe, that could be directed to education and rehabilitation 🙂
They never legalized cocaine...
The problem is precisely that what the Netherlands and Portugal are practicing is NOT Legalisation - these are merely different models of Decriminalisation- which aims nit to punish users. However that is very different from a legal and regulated market- it means that the supply remains with criminal gangs and these governments are willing to look the other way.
In my opinion users should not be punished, but even more importantly the drug markets need to me controlled and regulated.
As a side-note: i am SICK of people conflating Legalisation and Decriminalisation like this Journalist in the end. Either it’s intellectual dishonesty, or she just has no idea what she is talking about.
Follow the money - get them for tax evasion.
Go after the banks that wash it.
I bet if you fully legalized drugs instead of wage terroristic wars on them that crime AND drug use would probably go down...
Not like its happened before or anything ...
And why didn't Holland legalize??🤷
One essential point is missing here: the organised crime is about cocaine and other harddrugs. Cannabis is not the issue. Journalists should have clarified that.
Get a job.
STOP dealing drug's.
Legalize! Regulate!!
Equating liberal Dutch marijuana policy with violence from the cocaine mafia is completely misleading DW. What is wrong with the former is that it should be legalized (like in US states) to grow and deliver weed. How can you get this so wrong DW, it is infuriating really.
Do proper legalization then
"Mexico" of western world
@@joexavier2287 what are you even trying to say..
@@squireltag1000 west is gone,time to world stop revolving around the west...they are not good role model anymore
Well well, it's almost as if we're living in the the US... Strangely, all this started when we followed suit and started our own "war on drugs", just as they did in the US all those years ago. Things have NOT gotten better in America...not even a little. So what do you think will happen here? Did you really expect those running the bizz to simply roll-over and play dead, forfeiting their business? That rich... Things will get much, much worse if we keep this up...
Organized crime has many in many countries for years. Governments and organized crimes have also played together in these games. These powers of greed.
Different rules should apply to organized crime.
It's about criminals coming in from other places and using practices from their culture to corrupt, intimidate, and destabilize the functioning of civil society. There was no mention in this report of criminals from other places doing this, but I am 99% sure that that is the case.
Yeah you're not completely wrong in that... But no one will touch that topic, I guarantee that.
De Vries not only had high profile criminals against him..
He also wanted to look much closer into the way Dutch government rules on the population. He noticed a high level of rudeness and disrespect for Dutch peoples rights...
Marijuana is legal in 20 of the 50 states in America, with a doctor's prescription.
Isn't benzos legal in all 50 of them?
@@jonber9411 umm what are you even talking about?
@@somethingunscripted A drug wich is described as medicine.
@Freshwater that's a huge problem for us, wokeness one side of the coin of the separation technique oligarchs are using to keep us enslaved
3:23 I am of t he mind Netherlands did right legalizing somewhat soft drugs. What I know it reduces crime's profit and therefore murder.
4:03 the _Front door Back door policy_ had not known any better is a good thing. Perhaps modifying the law by FULL drug decriminalization pinned to regulation and cleaning up the port and general corruption is the way forward, *refuse* I do to agree with the lady drug legalization worsened the situation - its implementation appears to cause unforeseen downsides.
this journalist has absolutely no idea.
I heard such good things about the Netherlands, but this is just awful.
but the reality is that there are ppl still having problems with the drugs and they probably likely to go under but since they are under and mostly would not want to get involved in anything so I think having less drug addicts
I thought drugs were decriminalized in Holland already.
Weed, Yes. Harddrugs, No
In small amounts yes, but not legalized. And that's the problem.
Personal anecdote. I went to a cultural festival in The Hague a number of years ago where a British standup was lauding our liberal drug policy. Afterwards me and my friends were walking home smoking a joint and I got stopped and was fined for smoking MJ. Mixed messages there.
Legalize, regulate and enforce. Or criminalize and enforce. I prefer the first, but now we are doing neither.
@@valk5045 afaik, you got a fine for amoking marijuana in public. You can smoke in your house, or your front door, your yard and coffe shop, but not anywhere else. Well, must be very unlucky to got fined for this, cause ppl smokes on the street ALL THE TIME. (I got a fine too, unlucky af)
Legalize drugs and not expect the mafia to run the show? That's naiveté.
Marijuana is not more a drug than alcohol, stop vilifying harmless stuff.
Don't worry "Holland" ... as long as you and your Austrian friends keep Romania and Bulgaria out of Schenghen zone... its all good, clearly you have it in the bag, sort of. In fact you should come over and give lessons on how to keep ports and transit routes clean, and everything accounted for.
Has the WEED quality decreased in last 10 years in Netherlands.
wow what bs murder have NOTHING to do with weed
Yes we are lax with our Drug laws, but I believe that decriminalising has lessened the problem in stead of worsening it.
Make growing cannabis legal in the Netherlands under a government framework
I grew up for over twenty years but I didn't notice it's crime until much later. There were a few notible cases like Peter r de Vries and there was another one I remember but the name escapes me at the moment.
I can't say the system we have is wrong
Derk wiersum? Martin kok?
Hij bedoeld vincent van gogh, pim fortuyn
@@SuperCorking Nee, dat zijn politiek/religieus gemotiveerde aanslagen, dit gaat om georganiseerde misdaad. Het is trouwens Theo van Gogh
Seems like decades of illegality has made the cartels more powerful than governments in terms of influence and finance - might even be too late to legalize everything without heavy repercussions. Imagine all the funding going towards prevention and rehabilitation rather than trying to "stop the rain" with even more force...
Seems like you should look at countries like Japan or countries in that region who've had a criminalized status of drugs for ages. Do cartels thrive there? They avoid them like the plague because they know that they'll be eradicated. Cartels like to do their style of "business" in liberal countries or in corrupted fallen countries where the instability makes it attractive to commit their crimes and seize power since they get away with it
Yakuza thrive in Japan
I can't believe how much this country has changed. It's unrecognizable other than the physical landmarks. The culture and people are completely different than they were not too long ago. It is now a scary place to visit.
What more to expect, its Netherlands!
The problem is not that some softdrugs has been legalised. As was not fully explained in the intro is that in the Netherlands the production of softdrugs has not been legalised. You can buy weed, smoke weed, but not grow it yourself. Which creates a demand without a legal supply chain. The Dutch government's lack of commitment in softdrug legalisation has literally created opened a marketplace for organised crime.
Whatever you do that with would become a problem. For instance if: You can buy bread, eat bread, but not make bread. Baking bread would turn into an illegal business, people would have to hide the smell of freshly baked bread. Give it some time and criminals will get involved. Congratulations you've created organised illegal bakery crime. If any lesson should be learned is that if you legalise anything you should legalise the entire process, else you will have to deal with an increase in crime sooner or later.
Something that i saw in hamburg
Lol, this item is just stories sowed together. This doesn't represent any actual public debate going in the media atm in the Netherlands. Legalisation and coke mafia are in general two different storries
The lines between hard and soft drugs as well as a few legitimate pharmaceuticals, fentanyl contamination is becoming an issue. Canada has experienced thousands of deadly OD fentanyl cases due to this highly potent lacing drug. Your mamajuana may now be contaminated with fentanyl.
Never heard of that being an issue, I think that'd be out by now. Weed smokers are much more sensitive to lacing than Heroin users, we would know that.
@@mysterioanonymous3206 It's been out for over 5 years since the drug was first used for lacing other drugs starting around the Vancouver and Seattle and spread from there. It's now a major issue in the American and Canadian drug scene. It catches a lot of experience drug users off guard.
Organised crime is based in the Netherlands mainly because of access to the port and all the logistics and money that comes with it. You can't stop drug flow until there is a demand for it, and you keep corrupt officials at their workplaces. You lost your war. Why can't you accept that fact?
You should legalise all of it and focus on diminishing the demand for it and creating competitive access to it simultaneously: Beter quality and organic growth, as well as control of chemicals used for production and all made by insured and fairly rewarded personnel that together with all of distribution and production sector pay Taxes
We know their conexiton with drugs
that's what you get when you close your eyes for drug dealing. People think it's funny and cool to go the netherlands to smoke marijuana and use other drugs, but it doesn't come without other crimes, like murder
Coffee shops aren't The problem it's their policies.. More rowdy people at a bar than a coffee shop that's for sure.. they need to just legalize it or grow it in Holland
Big problem, the maffia should been stopped, with full force.
STOP THE CLICKBAIT WITH A GRAM OF WEED