Because they'll need to convince every other manufacturer to also do the same thing and case manufacturers to create cases that support it or else no one will actually buy them
i like it too but it would start as a niche design until more cases are designed around it. with their iteration you’d need a slightly more spacious cable routing area to avoid bending unless they develop angle adapters, which adds even more to cost. cost is a huge reason why a lot of manufacturers avoided it until now and they know now that people are willing to drop that extra cash for a more unique look
Not the first to try this, won’t be the last to fail. Until they sit down around a table with phanteks, lianli, fractal, inwin and other case makers who make cases people actually want (no one wants an MSI case they get one by accident in a crap prebuilt) then this will die along with every previous attempt….
He's not just stepping back. He made it sound like this channel is in all likelihood done forever because he wants to do more vlogging and comedy style skits on his new channel. I have a hard time understanding why in the world he would want to do that and how many people would kill to have the opportunities he's had being a popular tech tuber but to each their own right? If these last videos prove anything, it's that his heart just isn't in it anymore. 😔
I like the idea of a "cable free" motherboard. It's always annoying snaking through the different motherboard headers to the front of the case, and sometimes there is no clean way to plug things in. Better for it to be out of sight like the rest of my cable clutter. The only thing that may be weird is routing header cables from pci cards, and fan cables to the back of the case. Assuming they can standardize a layout so motherboard and case manufacturers can comply, I would totally consider buying one.
That's pretty cool. I bet some extra long stand offs could adapt larger cases to having the cables on the back. Maybe some 90degree or cabled adaptors could help too.
According to a couple of other vids I've seen about this, it doesn't cost them any more money to do this, so they claim the boards will be basically the same price if they end up making them. If others start making cases that will work with this, it will make for a cleaner build and I think it would be easier to work with if you have to unplug things for upgrades or whatever as well.
I really like the motherboard wiring connection the back. Something to consider from my next build from the ground up, probably two to five years from now.
Im quite interested and intrigued to see what MSI has been trying. Always loved them for the good quality parts they sell and everything, cant wait to see what else they do for future improvements and innovations.
If the cables have a standard elbow bend, like how some PSU cables have, it would be fine. It would make installing the jumper cables and activity lights a breeze.
2:55 That idea of a built-in AIO liquid cooler within the GPU shroud is genius! Wonder why it hasn't been thought of by anyone else yet? I love the idea of AIO-equipped GPUs for temperature performance, but finding a spot for the additional 240mm rad can be difficult in some cases (pun intended).
That case seems pretty versatile for both air and water cooling. And it doesn't scream "gamer" from the front panel. Will be keeping an eye out for pricing/dimension details on that one.
I feel like the "cable free" board can work if the inputs all have cabled connectors you could feed through the back of your MOBO tray. That way it's universal on all boards. No idea how viable this is as a power delivery system though
I hope this becomes an industry standard. Cables make things look more complicated and daunting for first time builders and no cables means better airflow.
To echo a lot of other comments, this makes so much sense, aesthetically and functionally, that it almost bothers me that this wasn't done sooner. Just need case manufacturers to step up to this cleaner build reality a lot of us have been wishing for, for years.
It's weird how that works, the industry standardises cases cases and parts so you tug nicely your whole system including cables away from sight. Then someone decides that a case needs a glass side panel to see all those components, and now people want a separate case in the case where they can hide the cables.
How about a boot-roast? Where you give comments on the boots of the manufacturers. I love your roasts, they are medium rare with a great bark like they should be.
I'm really surprised that there aren't more mobos with reversed power connectors. we've seen right-angle sockets before, but this is something else. I'm looking to upgrade to AM5 in the near-ish future, I'd be very interested to get a motherboard that would give me the ultimate clean look.
Cable free and visible cables both have a cool aesthetic to them depending on the look you are going for. Definitely looking forward to the cable free look 😎
It's true that it does look a little odd and sparse, but the notion of putting all the connectors on the back of a product is common sense from an aesthetic POV.. It's thankfully been that way for AV equipment since day one, so now we tend to pay attention to the aesthetics of a PC (at least in the non general pre-built, enthusiast space) I suppose the question is why not motherboards as well?
100% should of been how cables are done to begin with then have cases with intergreated pannles that have cable management in the back plate so connect the Power brick to the case then the motherboard to the case.
Hey brother watched you videos ALOT I was finally able to save and build my own pc and thanks to your build videos helped me a fuck ton ❤ much live from Hawaii
It would be great to have a "cable free" setup become more mainstream, but too many different motherboards means it'll be too hard to accommodate all of them. A lot of work to get every manufacturer to stick to some kind of standard that will allow it.
I think cables in general add a certain aesthetic that I appreciate in computers. I like being able to make them into the design, and have them help fill out all the dead space in the chassis. Cable mod and custom sleeved cables are brilliant. I love the black sleeved cables that my Super Flower Leadex PSU came with.
The idea of putting cables at the back is weird. Yes, we'll have cool interiors of the systems, but you need to manage those cables somehow and this requires additional space. I'd rather go for a sideways connection - this could be hidden under a cover plate next to the board easily while maintaining relatively good compatibility with some of the standard cases.
Yoooo Kyle I love you man! hope your mental health is improving :) Sad to see you leave this channel but excited to see future content based more centrally around you
I always thought this was so obvious the first time i built a PC. I just assumed there was some technical reason that prevented it that I was ignorant of.
I don't like the rear cable mobo tbh. First it means you are pretty much stuck with one chasis (for now), but also, If you get some nice color matched sleeved cables with combs I think it adds to the aesthetic. Hiding all the cables is just one more way to hide the effort you out into giving your PC its own personality.
I actually think that less cable (no cables) in front of cases is the key overtime. If this become a request from client, in no time other manufacturer will copy and then cases manufacturer will adapt. Gygabite came with a similar concept last year, Asus is showing a gpu with no cables, this is the trend for the future. Regarding aesthetics, custom cables is only a patch to an old ugly problem. We will find tons of other way to enhance the look of a pc.
YES, no cables. I have been thinking why havent MOBO companies been making this design... considering they make the back side of cases to hold the cables why not just make it plug in behind the board! Finally!
I love how all these board & case manufacturers are ripping off the PowerBoard idea from Singularity Computers. Love the concept just hope they give him credit or that he owns licensing rights.
Gigabyte/Aorus did it first. I love this concept, but it requires a specific case layout to work. I'll stick to normal components until this becomes more mainstream.
Yet there is still cables running diagonally over the motherboard from the cpu cooler. Which they still haven't thought about fixing something for that. Or at least cable manage this showpiece better.
BitWit, I wonder if you'll ever Upload to this channel again after this video. I hope you do to at least some degree. Will you ever upload again after this video?
You guys probably are not going to believe this, but I had this same idea of placing all the cable connectors to the back of the motherboard. I was going to patent this idea, but laziness got a hold on me and I never did it. I think this is genius, since we builders are always hiding the cables to the back, so, this makes sense. Since in my mind, I invented it, I love it.
I'd love for MSI and Asus to team up to put their new cable-less designs together. Motherboards with the power connectors on the back, and GPUs with that fancy pseudo-PCI power delivery slot. Both of those together'd look fantastic. I do feel like this motherboard would be better with power cables that have 90 degree bends on the connectors though. Having the cables themselves do the bending while being squeezed in by the back panel of the case would leave me feealing kinda skeeved out over it.
At this point I am surprised that there is not a single large cable to power the case like a laptop. The difference is that it is a thicker cable. I think PCI-E ruined the world as they dictate the power input. We have seen an 3x 8pin go into a 12 pin. Why the fuck are motherboards not made thicker to support more power?! Stupid PC dictators are deciding what is possible. At this point I feel that this is another Hydrogen vehicle issue (offed early because of the money loss of a big corp). Stop with this tiny growth!! Intel had such small growth until AMD hit again, then they stair stepped but leaked that they had a higher nM and still sat stagnant.
Mark this down as likely the last Bitwit video. Honestly though, all of these videos have been pretty much connect the dots and collect the check things, I know Kyle has had enough. Honestly, it's all good. Move on to whatever else it is you enjoy, good luck with it all. The internet hates a vacuum and someone else will get sucked into filling the space you leave.
This ‘cable-free’ motherboard makes so much sense. It’s surprising that motherboard manufacturers haven’t made this mainstream.
Because they'll need to convince every other manufacturer to also do the same thing and case manufacturers to create cases that support it or else no one will actually buy them
i like it too but it would start as a niche design until more cases are designed around it. with their iteration you’d need a slightly more spacious cable routing area to avoid bending unless they develop angle adapters, which adds even more to cost. cost is a huge reason why a lot of manufacturers avoided it until now and they know now that people are willing to drop that extra cash for a more unique look
They have not been able to fix those stupid front panel connectors....so...
Asus 1-upped them and added a 600W port near the PCIe slot for a cable-less GPU install (copied from AMD-Mac implementations)
I hope the "cable-free" concept gets some traction.
Not the first to try this, won’t be the last to fail. Until they sit down around a table with phanteks, lianli, fractal, inwin and other case makers who make cases people actually want (no one wants an MSI case they get one by accident in a crap prebuilt) then this will die along with every previous attempt….
I'm really going to miss your simple no-nonsense tech coverage Kyle. Hopefully you'll come back someday.
Is this video old?
@@rahul-qm9fi no. Computex is going on right now, Kyle said recently that he was stepping back from tech coverage after Computex this year.
@@endykun I see. Thank you.
He's not just stepping back. He made it sound like this channel is in all likelihood done forever because he wants to do more vlogging and comedy style skits on his new channel.
I have a hard time understanding why in the world he would want to do that and how many people would kill to have the opportunities he's had being a popular tech tuber but to each their own right?
If these last videos prove anything, it's that his heart just isn't in it anymore. 😔
@@JakeSulinjr his ex prob get half the $$ earned in his bitwit channel
looks pretty neat imo, hope this becomes a widely-supported alternative in the future
This is exactly what I wanted in a motherboard, I thought about this 19 years ago, I have no idea why no one thought to do this sooner!!!
they probably have just couldn't make it come to fruition.
I thought about this 29 years ago.
@@Link200767 they could've, but didn't because it would've been proprietary, I'm pretty sure gigabyte also did this recently if I'm not mistaken
@@lillee4207 either way its better late than never.
@@Link200767 yeahh, you're right jaja
I like the idea of a "cable free" motherboard. It's always annoying snaking through the different motherboard headers to the front of the case, and sometimes there is no clean way to plug things in. Better for it to be out of sight like the rest of my cable clutter. The only thing that may be weird is routing header cables from pci cards, and fan cables to the back of the case. Assuming they can standardize a layout so motherboard and case manufacturers can comply, I would totally consider buying one.
Glad to see they’re joining along with the others who are already attempting this… It definitely needs to become mainstream
That's pretty cool. I bet some extra long stand offs could adapt larger cases to having the cables on the back. Maybe some 90degree or cabled adaptors could help too.
According to a couple of other vids I've seen about this, it doesn't cost them any more money to do this, so they claim the boards will be basically the same price if they end up making them. If others start making cases that will work with this, it will make for a cleaner build and I think it would be easier to work with if you have to unplug things for upgrades or whatever as well.
It's good to see you doing well. I've always enjoyed these kinds of videos from you.
I really like the motherboard wiring connection the back. Something to consider from my next build from the ground up, probably two to five years from now.
Good to see you back man. Appreciate these videos
Im quite interested and intrigued to see what MSI has been trying. Always loved them for the good quality parts they sell and everything, cant wait to see what else they do for future improvements and innovations.
The rear power connectors are very much wanted but I wish they would include the change to do something with the GPU power connector as well.
forget the board, that chassis is wtf. Mock up case? its the child of the Hyte Y60 and NZXT h9 flow
If the cables have a standard elbow bend, like how some PSU cables have, it would be fine. It would make installing the jumper cables and activity lights a breeze.
Thanks!
You’re back?
He's not black, he's Asian.
I thought the same thing…
2:55 That idea of a built-in AIO liquid cooler within the GPU shroud is genius! Wonder why it hasn't been thought of by anyone else yet? I love the idea of AIO-equipped GPUs for temperature performance, but finding a spot for the additional 240mm rad can be difficult in some cases (pun intended).
That case seems pretty versatile for both air and water cooling. And it doesn't scream "gamer" from the front panel. Will be keeping an eye out for pricing/dimension details on that one.
I feel like the "cable free" board can work if the inputs all have cabled connectors you could feed through the back of your MOBO tray. That way it's universal on all boards. No idea how viable this is as a power delivery system though
Love the hidden cables design!
Thank god you're still posting! 🙂
Liking the short and sweet vids as well.
ohhh shiieettt kyle back on the tech game.
good to see you back. any funny colab with paul or others while at computex
I’ve been waiting for the industry to make a ONE standard plug for the front IO. Why this hasn’t happened is beyond me.
amen to that
I hope this becomes an industry standard. Cables make things look more complicated and daunting for first time builders and no cables means better airflow.
To echo a lot of other comments, this makes so much sense, aesthetically and functionally, that it almost bothers me that this wasn't done sooner. Just need case manufacturers to step up to this cleaner build reality a lot of us have been wishing for, for years.
It's weird how that works, the industry standardises cases cases and parts so you tug nicely your whole system including cables away from sight. Then someone decides that a case needs a glass side panel to see all those components, and now people want a separate case in the case where they can hide the cables.
How about a boot-roast? Where you give comments on the boots of the manufacturers.
I love your roasts, they are medium rare with a great bark like they should be.
I thought he wasn’t gonna do bitwit anymore. Glad to see him still throwing vids up in the channel
He said that he would cover Computex, and that that would be it. Did people only read the title of his goodbye video?
A bitwit video! Love it. But honesty was very surprised by it being new, thought Kyle was done with the tech videos.
He said that he would cover Computex, and that that would be it. Did people only read the title of his goodbye video?
Glad you are here. A surprise for sure but a welcome one.
I'm really surprised that there aren't more mobos with reversed power connectors. we've seen right-angle sockets before, but this is something else. I'm looking to upgrade to AM5 in the near-ish future, I'd be very interested to get a motherboard that would give me the ultimate clean look.
Cable free and visible cables both have a cool aesthetic to them depending on the look you are going for. Definitely looking forward to the cable free look 😎
I wouldn’t mind the argb, fans, audio, front connectors, CPU power & usb plugs coming out the back. But I like the 24 pin and GPU custom cable look.
doubt it will catch on and with lian li strimers or whatever they call them, adding rgb to them is really nice looking
It's true that it does look a little odd and sparse, but the notion of putting all the connectors on the back of a product is common sense from an aesthetic POV.. It's thankfully been that way for AV equipment since day one, so now we tend to pay attention to the aesthetics of a PC (at least in the non general pre-built, enthusiast space) I suppose the question is why not motherboards as well?
100% should of been how cables are done to begin with then have cases with intergreated pannles that have cable management in the back plate so connect the Power brick to the case then the motherboard to the case.
I find cable mounts in the rear with the gear more tempting. I would buy
Hey brother watched you videos ALOT I was finally able to save and build my own pc and thanks to your build videos helped me a fuck ton ❤ much live from Hawaii
It would be great to have a "cable free" setup become more mainstream, but too many different motherboards means it'll be too hard to accommodate all of them. A lot of work to get every manufacturer to stick to some kind of standard that will allow it.
They needed custom cables on the GPU and what is with the cable to the cooler, I think I have seen you (Kyle) build cleaner builds.
I was so hoping you went to computex this year. Selfishly, I knew it would provide a couple more videos from you. 😢. Miss your content, bro.
I don't understand why companies didn't move the connectors to the back of the board years ago.
what was that case with the cablefree mobo?
Gigabyte did the 'stealth' hidden connectors back in 2021/2022.
OH SNAP ... KYLE is back!!!! Yeah baby!!!
He said that he would cover Computex, and that that would be it. Did people only read the title of his goodbye video?
@@dismuter_yt no I just forgot
Would love the cable free option. How has it not been a thing sooner
Cable management advocates dream
If this could be combined with Asus' GPU that doesn't need auxiliary power cables because of the additional PCIE power....
So clean
I like the idea of them on the back, but its pretty useless unless you want to mod a case to make it work (which could be kind of fun)
My next build going to be a MSI build. MSI doing great.
I think cables in general add a certain aesthetic that I appreciate in computers. I like being able to make them into the design, and have them help fill out all the dead space in the chassis. Cable mod and custom sleeved cables are brilliant. I love the black sleeved cables that my Super Flower Leadex PSU came with.
This would be amazing. Also unify the front io plugs
Back of the board cables is one of those things that we should have thought of already....
The idea of putting cables at the back is weird. Yes, we'll have cool interiors of the systems, but you need to manage those cables somehow and this requires additional space. I'd rather go for a sideways connection - this could be hidden under a cover plate next to the board easily while maintaining relatively good compatibility with some of the standard cases.
Yoooo Kyle I love you man! hope your mental health is improving :)
Sad to see you leave this channel but excited to see future content based more centrally around you
I absolutely love this... talk about clean build!
I always thought this was so obvious the first time i built a PC. I just assumed there was some technical reason that prevented it that I was ignorant of.
I've been waiting since 1991 for MOBO manufacturer to do this.
This is the future!!!!
its about time sombody moved in this direction on cables . its obviously the way to go once it becomes standard .
THANK YOU MSI you guys rock
This is actually good
He's not back guys. He said that he was going to cover computex. I don't want everybody getting their hopes up. 😢😢
The goat is back
The Asus one looks way better with the PCIe slot power the GPU as well.
How did no one come up with this sooner?
Yes Yes Yes...... A THOUSAND TIMES YES!!!! GIVE ME THIS NOW MSI PLEASE! 😭
I don't like the rear cable mobo tbh. First it means you are pretty much stuck with one chasis (for now), but also, If you get some nice color matched sleeved cables with combs I think it adds to the aesthetic. Hiding all the cables is just one more way to hide the effort you out into giving your PC its own personality.
I actually think that less cable (no cables) in front of cases is the key overtime. If this become a request from client, in no time other manufacturer will copy and then cases manufacturer will adapt. Gygabite came with a similar concept last year, Asus is showing a gpu with no cables, this is the trend for the future.
Regarding aesthetics, custom cables is only a patch to an old ugly problem. We will find tons of other way to enhance the look of a pc.
Anyone remember BTX? No? This cable concept will go the same way.
Wow! It took this long to make this much needed change for cable management?
this place is like heaven
Wait you're back?
He said that he would cover Computex, and that that would be it. Did people only read the title of his goodbye video?
This makes sense to me since people work so hard to hide cables.
Will you be at LTX?
YES, no cables. I have been thinking why havent MOBO companies been making this design... considering they make the back side of cases to hold the cables why not just make it plug in behind the board! Finally!
i am confused he said he was done? but yet he posts these videos?
He said that he would cover Computex, and that that would be it. Did people only read the title of his goodbye video?
@@dismuter_yt nah i watched it a while ago i think just forgot most likely
Compatability issues if there isnt a standard between motherboards and cases
It's weird not seeing Kyle on camera. It doesn't sound like he's too into these videos either.
I have miss your tech videos
It's about time. Cables just make a mobo look tackey
I really enjoy showing off the cables
man the 300 has my interest peaked, I just cannot justify a case that blocks off PCIE slots though.
I love how all these board & case manufacturers are ripping off the PowerBoard idea from Singularity Computers. Love the concept just hope they give him credit or that he owns licensing rights.
That looks soooo good and cool 😎 I love it
Gigabyte/Aorus did it first. I love this concept, but it requires a specific case layout to work. I'll stick to normal components until this becomes more mainstream.
finially
Yet there is still cables running diagonally over the motherboard from the cpu cooler. Which they still haven't thought about fixing something for that. Or at least cable manage this showpiece better.
BitWit, I wonder if you'll ever Upload to this channel again after this video. I hope you do to at least some degree. Will you ever upload again after this video?
You guys probably are not going to believe this, but I had this same idea of placing all the cable connectors to the back of the motherboard. I was going to patent this idea, but laziness got a hold on me and I never did it. I think this is genius, since we builders are always hiding the cables to the back, so, this makes sense. Since in my mind, I invented it, I love it.
Finally!
Cases will get thicc.
I'd love for MSI and Asus to team up to put their new cable-less designs together.
Motherboards with the power connectors on the back, and GPUs with that fancy pseudo-PCI power delivery slot.
Both of those together'd look fantastic.
I do feel like this motherboard would be better with power cables that have 90 degree bends on the connectors though. Having the cables themselves do the bending while being squeezed in by the back panel of the case would leave me feealing kinda skeeved out over it.
+1 for 90 degree connectors. Then case compatibility isn't as big a deal.
If you need a new case, just flip the whole board and put a backplate on it...
At this point I am surprised that there is not a single large cable to power the case like a laptop. The difference is that it is a thicker cable. I think PCI-E ruined the world as they dictate the power input.
We have seen an 3x 8pin go into a 12 pin. Why the fuck are motherboards not made thicker to support more power?!
Stupid PC dictators are deciding what is possible.
At this point I feel that this is another Hydrogen vehicle issue (offed early because of the money loss of a big corp).
Stop with this tiny growth!! Intel had such small growth until AMD hit again, then they stair stepped but leaked that they had a higher nM and still sat stagnant.
Sure !
Mark this down as likely the last Bitwit video. Honestly though, all of these videos have been pretty much connect the dots and collect the check things, I know Kyle has had enough.
Honestly, it's all good. Move on to whatever else it is you enjoy, good luck with it all. The internet hates a vacuum and someone else will get sucked into filling the space you leave.
RIP cablemods and all custom cable product
Not quite. Not yet.
miss you youre videos hope you are doing well.