From what I experienced while playing, this gamemode and map are EXTREMELY stagger-heavy. If you get staggered, you're gonna end up losing multiple team fights, because the spawns move further back every time and it ends up with 2 people dying, 3 people retreating, repeat that over and over until it's last point. Then the nightmare begins. Last point is wildly difficult to cap in comparison to the middle three. The defender spawn is basically on point, meaning their time to get back in the fight is instant. Meanwhile, attackers spawn back on the middle, which is a long ass walk to do anything. Attackers have to have a gigantic ult rush if they want to do anything, or suffer bleeding resources and getting sent back to spawn and then getting staggered, which then means that the defenders have a free two points.
Mode does need some adjustments but people who think it's bad are definitely overreacting. Especially since there is no role queue so steamrolls are bound to happen more. Edit: okay there is role queue I just wonder how many others are aware of that.
It has the opposite problem push does and it's somehow more infuriating. Every game I've played is just 9 super fast team fights then insta caps. And I have yet to see a team capture even 2 points in a row. It's always back and forth on who wins points because it is so heavily defense favored. It essentially boils down to whoever wins first point just wins the game outright.
@@albinofroggy my only main issue is that if it's going to be defense favored why give them a point for taking back the lost objective. They should at least not be rewarded for taking back points A or E (the final ones).
@@Sidus666 as in, without serious reworks like the timing of the captures. In push even stomps feel like there’s some sort of win condition. In clash, it’s the ultimate version of rock paper scissorswatch, barely enough time to assess who to counter with
I really like that Clash is literally a reimagined 2 CP in which attackers actually have a chance to win beyond just getting that "last" point by the spawn
Don't think it's a bad mode, it's just too fast. You can't take a breath between 2 fights and it feels overwhelming. Could use some tweaking on the timings
My first match no one on my team except my friend and I realized how the capture system worked so no one was attempting to contest on our team when the enemy was capturing. We lost insanely fast.
I'm glad they didn't. Otherwise you'd get the same problem there is in Sixes. You would have to run a super hypermobile team comp no matter what so that you could switch between defense and offense. Even moreso than TF2 because there is generally less mobility than something like rocket or sticky jumping can give you to fly back to the previous point to deal with a backcapping scout. There'd be no room for slow heroes on any point except last, just like Sixes.
Overwatch 2 honestly did 5cp pretty well. Games sometimes end pretty quickly but it's probably not going to be much of a problem once people get used to it
I dislike this game more, hot take but I like push and flashpoint far better. Any escort game in comp and take up to a half hour and it’s just aggravating, push and flashpoint have the right amount of timeframe for a game mode that still could be ended fairly quickly and not drag forever.
Don’t the streamer mode names defeat the purpose since people will find out inevitably what their nicknames are and troll anyway? It should be randomized
@skylox4077 *Shrug* Personal opinion, I can't say ur wrong but I really enjoy Venture they remind me of genji and the new game mode is better than flashpoint so I like it. Hopefully you find something you can enjoy too! 😁
The new game mode is cool but the game isn't fun anymore and I'm done with it. Too many bad decisions and Venture/the inability to leave any games in the CASUAL mode are the final straw. When I can win a game without hitting the primary fire once you know there's something wrong. I'll keep watching you for your reaction content, but I'm fucking done with Overwatch.
As the Ana on your team in the second game it was a blast playing with you I didn't know it was you until play of the game
Flats' short wheezes sounds like an Aztec death whistle
That's so oddly specific, but I love it and you're so right
Fun fact: You can view actual Hanamura from Hanaoka
And backup fun fact, this is the only way to view Hanamura at all anymore. The map got wiped from the game, both in the arcade and custom game.
@@mintytheslimeoh?? Why I liked that map, not the gamemode but the map lol
@@mintytheslimeactually, if you play the 2cp mode. You still get the map.
@@bmaster4550 then I must have been really unlucky with my 2 hours of research, damn
@@mintytheslime or I got it for the last time…
krusher99 was seagull the whole time
Being able to troll your friends with names is honestly kinda hilarious
From what I experienced while playing, this gamemode and map are EXTREMELY stagger-heavy. If you get staggered, you're gonna end up losing multiple team fights, because the spawns move further back every time and it ends up with 2 people dying, 3 people retreating, repeat that over and over until it's last point.
Then the nightmare begins. Last point is wildly difficult to cap in comparison to the middle three. The defender spawn is basically on point, meaning their time to get back in the fight is instant. Meanwhile, attackers spawn back on the middle, which is a long ass walk to do anything. Attackers have to have a gigantic ult rush if they want to do anything, or suffer bleeding resources and getting sent back to spawn and then getting staggered, which then means that the defenders have a free two points.
These devs releasing an unbalanced, unfun game mode? I can't believe it.
I've missed the Krusher99, cvpids4rrow and Paintb4ll3r collabs man.
You forgot 2CPsycho
This is quite literally Team Fortress 2 but with Overwatch 2 heroes.
We don't have 2fort or High Tower yet. So not yet.
@@OberonKin I meant the gamemode, but ye
@@nm3k511 the good thing is, because of the win condition of capturing 5 points, this gamemode can't be stall forever
Not comparable, tf2 is a good game while ow2 is not
pretty sure in 5cp you had to defend the point you just took, not just that everyone moves to the next one
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FLATS!!
Mode does need some adjustments but people who think it's bad are definitely overreacting. Especially since there is no role queue so steamrolls are bound to happen more.
Edit: okay there is role queue I just wonder how many others are aware of that.
It has the opposite problem push does and it's somehow more infuriating. Every game I've played is just 9 super fast team fights then insta caps. And I have yet to see a team capture even 2 points in a row. It's always back and forth on who wins points because it is so heavily defense favored. It essentially boils down to whoever wins first point just wins the game outright.
It shows up in quickplay rotation. It deffo feels better with full hp tanks and pre defined roles
@@albinofroggy my only main issue is that if it's going to be defense favored why give them a point for taking back the lost objective. They should at least not be rewarded for taking back points A or E (the final ones).
There is role queue its in regular rotation u can just play role in qp and ull get it eventually
@@lesliejacoby9137sometimes I feel like it's better to let the opponents have the last point and set up defenses on the 4th
This game mode is a riot. Seems like itll be great for casual play. The pacing is fantastic
I hope it doesn’t come to comp or it’ll be more triggering than push personally speaking lol
@@nailinthefashion it definitely wil come to comp, it's a core gamemode like push and flashpoint.
@@Sidus666 as in, without serious reworks like the timing of the captures. In push even stomps feel like there’s some sort of win condition. In clash, it’s the ultimate version of rock paper scissorswatch, barely enough time to assess who to counter with
@@nailinthefashion yeah they'll probably adjust it somehow, kinda what they're doing these trials for which is awesome!
@@Sidus666 here’s hoping for a slower pace
You dropped this flats 👑 Enjoy your bday king 🎂
Seagull being krusher99 is an insane crossover get krushed
I really like that Clash is literally a reimagined 2 CP in which attackers actually have a chance to win beyond just getting that "last" point by the spawn
this game mode can be intense and is super fast
Seagull with the, "I just close my eyes" LOL
the onylfans bots were real fast on this vid.
Flats be having that bots rizz what can we say
What if it's not bots😏
W I D E B U T T H O L E I N B I O
@@catcandiezthis comment annihilated me
@@nailinthefashion thank you im so glad
ugh the isle defino music is top tier
Love ya videos flats 🖤 happy birthday bro bro
Have you ever tried gigantic a video on it would really help get the game afloat
Happy birthday flats!
Don't think it's a bad mode, it's just too fast. You can't take a breath between 2 fights and it feels overwhelming. Could use some tweaking on the timings
My first match no one on my team except my friend and I realized how the capture system worked so no one was attempting to contest on our team when the enemy was capturing. We lost insanely fast.
I know I'm late, but happy birthday Flats!
What if flats got a lpw taper fade
As a TF2 oldhead I wish they had made it more like TF2 5CP instead of moving king of the hill.
Yeah I wish you could cap immediately so you can build real momentum
And also the game being able to end so quickly is a pretty lame bandaid fox bc of that like there’s no actual tug of war
Well it is a only a limited time mode for now. Maybe they'll change things on actual release
I'm glad they didn't. Otherwise you'd get the same problem there is in Sixes. You would have to run a super hypermobile team comp no matter what so that you could switch between defense and offense. Even moreso than TF2 because there is generally less mobility than something like rocket or sticky jumping can give you to fly back to the previous point to deal with a backcapping scout. There'd be no room for slow heroes on any point except last, just like Sixes.
It feels like a tanks wet dream.
this is A LOT better than flashpoint
This mode is fun. Much better than flashpoint.
just wanna say the background music is cute and catchy :D
Gamemode feels great. I feel like points win could be increased to 7 instead of 5 given how fast some of the caps happen
Happy bday flats
"you ruined this whole group" lmao
That haircut looks clean af
wtf happened to doom's ult at 8:43 ????
Overwatch 2 honestly did 5cp pretty well. Games sometimes end pretty quickly but it's probably not going to be much of a problem once people get used to it
This would be a cluster fuck in 6v6
Nope
The mode is definitely more intense then the others 😅
New haircut I see? Dapper
They need a rolequeue mode for this
It's in rotation in normal qp
does this gamemode come to competitive in 2 weeks? or next season?
Best Mercy map and game mode 101
My first experience on this map we got stomped and the game was barely 2 minutes long, I was so fucking confused
For me it lasted a half hour and my team lost becouse of them stalling the point for minutes.every Single guy on their team had 15 or above deaths😢
My battlenet is literally Ganymede lol
Hey people, since you can now get previous mythic skins do you guys think previous battle pass skins will be available at some point
its actually a fun gamemode
Happy B day bro
07:38 emongg Locked In
Video choked at 13:48. Is it still up?
I’ve played clash only once but I’m so happy that it didn’t turn out to be another flashpoint, I’m so ready for temple of Anubis
What’s the time stamp of them actually talking about how they feel about the game mode?
Flats you should try to play gigantic, it just came out
Someone know if the new quick play leaver penalty aplies to Arcade?
It's for quickplay
No, it doesnt
Can you get drops from youtube? Or just twitch?
Twitch only, it's Amazon partner and obviously Amazon doesn't own RUclips
This game mode should've been released instead of flashpoint. Flashpoint feels so slow with the spawns being so far away from every damn point
happy birthday
ngl the audio feels really wonky in this video its kinda distracting
I found you but I can’t find my other subscriptions
2CP IS BACK BABY!!! I love this new mode so much it's nonstop fighting nonstop FUN
Happy late birthday
Let the smurfing marathon begin
feels like what 2cp should have been.
wish they just put the arcade games in the same menu as the QP so people actually play the modes
It's in qp rotation currently
@@bennettnez4711 Noticed that. Still. Even the other arcade games would get more players if it was in the same menu
bro said i’m not anybody yet…your right your 4 people in one.
They can do streamer mode right but still doesnt know what a fucking chat ban is 😂
Can't wait for a 20min queue for an 8min game at max when this mode hits ranked
The f are u talking about
And what game mode in overwatch u get 20 mins queue exept ranked and u need to be in high rank
@@Overshak I'm a GM support player
Did you get actioned maybe?
@@tarcisiooq u proved my point
Season 10 might be the peak season
Why am I getting ads for a $2000 chair and a $99 mouse?
Why do they make these game modes open queue and not roll queue, it gives a terrible vision of the actual game mode.
its possible to get it in qp but its random. Kind weird tbh, it should have a higher chance to get it
@@zero13z34feels like it has a higher chance to me. I’ve gotten it twice out of my last 5ish qp games.
Its in role queue rotation I literally got it my first match on lol
Faster queue times for more people to play
I dislike this game more, hot take but I like push and flashpoint far better. Any escort game in comp and take up to a half hour and it’s just aggravating, push and flashpoint have the right amount of timeframe for a game mode that still could be ended fairly quickly and not drag forever.
Is this just 5cp in Overwatch?
Yes
Still think doom needs a nerf
yay ball players
Why I'm I suspended in comp guys? Without playin?
BRO IT'S 5CP
I think it borders on unplayable lol I hate it
Ngl, this looks so much better and fun compare to the payload mode.
yeah much much better than flashpoint, now just delete that shit already
Game mode is fun, but has zero competitive integrity
Game play so loud can't even hear them talking
the aduio level is very low
This mode sucks
Yeah I'm not a big fan of this mode
This mode is so boring
What a waste of development time
This Mode should be left in arcade, and never leave arcade, in fact never show ever again in the game, change it for the pve
Don’t the streamer mode names defeat the purpose since people will find out inevitably what their nicknames are and troll anyway? It should be randomized
Like the video but i really hate the new hero and the new mode
Why? 🤔
@@tyreehawkins5403 cause tried venture when they were released for trial hate the idea the hero is boring as hell plus the new mode is just trash
@skylox4077 *Shrug* Personal opinion, I can't say ur wrong but I really enjoy Venture they remind me of genji and the new game mode is better than flashpoint so I like it. Hopefully you find something you can enjoy too! 😁
@@tyreehawkins5403 Venture looks fun but im not a fan of the VA unfortunately
I just find venture way to basic
Dudes named flats, but hes the furthest from it lol
First
The new game mode is cool but the game isn't fun anymore and I'm done with it. Too many bad decisions and Venture/the inability to leave any games in the CASUAL mode are the final straw. When I can win a game without hitting the primary fire once you know there's something wrong. I'll keep watching you for your reaction content, but I'm fucking done with Overwatch.
Cool