I played against a guy on the ladder who would not stop sending his overseers in to poop all over my production. It was pretty effective and I'm surprised we don't see it more.
It’s probably more useful to deny an upgrade or a key unit in the early to early-midgame, but building any static defense basically renders it useless. Still cool too see an intentional application of the ability to prevent immortal production in the second game.
Even just looking at how Serral plays I am scared... At this point this guy feels like he fused Terran and Zerg gameplay... Insane Micro with insane Macro. I love it!
Every time I see him play he is adding another dimension to the game. Few players use Overlord abilities because they make such a minor difference, but that minor difference is enough for Serral to spend APM on it…and it makes the games look effortless.
This first game reminds me of a pretty hilarious TvT Serral played against Reynor (Reynor challenged him to try Terran in the first game of the match) in a Basilisk event, where he played a weird Medivac-Tank-Viking mech and used them like a Dropalord-Ravager-Corruptor combo. He was visibly amused and Reynor had no idea what to do playing regular bio and lost the game. They switched to Zerg for the rest of the match, but Reynor still lost. 3-0.
I've been watching a lot of SC2 lately and I would love to see a lot more silly for-fun stuff. Off-race only, 2v2, archon mode, 2v2 with teams of same race
@@GigaTyGuyI've always thought it's a real shame there's not an Archon division. It would be really cool to see how some of these pros work in concert.
It's likely that still the same names will dominate as they are also very strong off racing. Like Maru sometimes gets highest Protoss MMR in Korea. I think recently Clem also managed to get top MMR Protoss in Europe.
@@GigaTyGuy We see it every now and then but there isn't enough money generally to entice the pros to do it regularly. Pros also generally avoid the silly stuff, well at least the top of the pyramid pros
Guys, about the progress bar and timer spoiling the result... I just sent some feedback to Google asking them to give us a setting for hiding the progress bar and timer. If you think it is a good idea or have another idea, shoot them with the feedback. Maybe we can get ourselves an anti-spoiler feature.
I think that was a great pick for a bonus clip. Spoiler alert! Watching Serral dismantle his opponent made Zerg look so overpowered and Protoss unplayable. But then Creator cleanly takes out another top tier Zerg. Just shows how different the outcome can be in different hands.
Can you please start the cast at the 45 second mark at the latest? I'm really intersted in seeing what build the players are using, and we don't actually look at the first game builds until almost the 3 minute mark.
btw yeah, Protoss do not have mouths. They do need oxygen, but they "breath", absorb water and "eat" light through their skin sort of like Earth plants do. They also excrete through the skin😁. So for everyone who didn't know... now you know😅.
I love how protoss is constantly trying to reinvent the wheel to catch their opponents by surprise, meanwhile Terran and Zerg have spells they just don't ever really feel a need to use.
It’s because Zerg has some spells that are bad. Contaminate risks losing supply for a small timeout that Protoss can chronoboost away. Microbial shroud is also known as “please storm here mr protoss”.
I love the idea of the Final game. You should do it more of your videos. I would also like to see a video's with that. I think it was alex guy. I will have to rewatch this video to find out what his name was.
*fictional bonus like for bonus anti spoiler game, wich is actually very fitting, showing two players doing the same, but Serrals finesse being the difference!*
The Raynor game shows how close he was to beating Serral in that first game. Denying charge and hitting the twilight at perfect times snowballed the entire game in Serral's favor. I'm not suggestion Creator was going to win , moreso that his 2-0 loss against serral doesn't tell the whole story.
@@ahuzelthat huge range is nullified by having some corrupters, infestors or a viper. They are slow, expensive and have a low dps, which means they can only be used to send a few blasts onto the peripheral units before retreating back to their (massive) support group, and hope they don't get swarmed, yoinked or fungaled.
@@tankbuggeru if only feedback had enough range, low cost and instant cast... let alone psionic storm for zoning. if u already have air, voids also eat corruptors
@@ahuzel sure, but templars are extremely slow and weak ground units, and juggling them in a prism takes a lot of skill, not to mention that they are a completely different tech tree. But vipers are fast air units that pay for themselves with a single yoink against lategame airtoss and can refill its mana quickly. There is no question that feedback and especially psi-storm are powerful spells, but the caster is too clunky to favor a good trade in comparison to the "free kill guarantee" that a viper would bring against tempests/carrier/mothership. No wonder the pro-tosses (hehe) are trying to win the game with phoenix/oracle harassment, leading into good mid-game ground army. Late game vs zerg is a nightmare.
Protosses just play so greedy with oracles. He easily could have gotten 4 drones and kept both alive in game one. The spore fired off like 10 times too! Imagine if he could have kept them alive just for scouting and defensive stasis’s :/
most underated spell is oracle stasis , each cast does 400-800 mineral dmg. most toss get 2 anyway, all you really have to do is park them in back of zerg base to get thousands of resource ahead
Seems to me that Zerg is over powered. They have an answer for all stages of the game in a way Protoss doesn't have and Terran has slightly. But overall Zerg seems to be SO MUCH tankier but also have so much of a higher dps, than when I used to play SC1 back in the day. They also seem to have by far the best spell casting.
@@pange8132 Even if, hypothetically, it worked, then you have the matchup centered entirely around toss rushing to a single spell to counter zerg spamming a single spell. Such an interesting viewing experience.
It doesn't really do all that much against a solid Protoss archon-immortal-colossus-stalker deathball, meanwhile Protoss has acess to the psionic storm which is much more powerful than a fungal.
@@bleflar9183 You don't understand what the point is of fungal. Psionic storm doesn't prevent your opponent from retreating and force them to die to you. Fungal is a better forcefield.
@Wwillswords when's the last time toss has won anything. Also who are the best toss players? And ask if they could even come close to the other races. Toss is weak af
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I really like how you are structuring your videos now with the inclusion of the final game
I played against a guy on the ladder who would not stop sending his overseers in to poop all over my production. It was pretty effective and I'm surprised we don't see it more.
Probably not cost effective if it was common the surprise element makes it good
It’s probably more useful to deny an upgrade or a key unit in the early to early-midgame, but building any static defense basically renders it useless. Still cool too see an intentional application of the ability to prevent immortal production in the second game.
@@moneygrab610 yeah,
having an immortal less takes the punch out of an early push
Didn’t expect serral to play terran that first game
Ya that was nuts
Not going to lie, the last few thumbnails have got it working for me. Keep up the good work.
Loved the final match.
Love the extra content for the shorter series
"always outside of the meta but ready to blink right in in." Heck Winter is a marketing genius
26:16 - Today I learned that roaches can tunnel under forcefields, huh.
Even just looking at how Serral plays I am scared... At this point this guy feels like he fused Terran and Zerg gameplay... Insane Micro with insane Macro. I love it!
Every time I see him play he is adding another dimension to the game. Few players use Overlord abilities because they make such a minor difference, but that minor difference is enough for Serral to spend APM on it…and it makes the games look effortless.
That final game was surprising - thanks for the great commentary as always!
That was a really good series. Even though creator was the underdog, he really put some pressure back onto serral. Especially the glaives game.
Game 1 is something I very rarely see... so varied, offensive and different. Very entertaining
This wasn't a match-up, this was footage of Serral going BEAST MODE
This first game reminds me of a pretty hilarious TvT Serral played against Reynor (Reynor challenged him to try Terran in the first game of the match) in a Basilisk event, where he played a weird Medivac-Tank-Viking mech and used them like a Dropalord-Ravager-Corruptor combo. He was visibly amused and Reynor had no idea what to do playing regular bio and lost the game. They switched to Zerg for the rest of the match, but Reynor still lost. 3-0.
I remember the extractor trick back when starcraft 2 first came out and the 10 pool Ling rush. That was vicious
The ‘I’ll probably do it anyway’ muffle almost makes up for the lack of the prime ‘for me’ muffle.
There needs to be a competition where none of the pros can play their main race. I would absolutely love to see what each chose!
Raynor be like :]
I've been watching a lot of SC2 lately and I would love to see a lot more silly for-fun stuff. Off-race only, 2v2, archon mode, 2v2 with teams of same race
@@GigaTyGuyI've always thought it's a real shame there's not an Archon division. It would be really cool to see how some of these pros work in concert.
It's likely that still the same names will dominate as they are also very strong off racing. Like Maru sometimes gets highest Protoss MMR in Korea. I think recently Clem also managed to get top MMR Protoss in Europe.
@@GigaTyGuy We see it every now and then but there isn't enough money generally to entice the pros to do it regularly. Pros also generally avoid the silly stuff, well at least the top of the pyramid pros
I really liked the final game. It was good to see Serral playing Creator for the third time in this video.
I watch every serral's match, I am completely amazed on his skills and discipline
yee, is crazy. soo hard to throw him out of his comfort zone, cuz basically everything is his comfort zone it feels.
It's great to how much his game has evolved so much these last 2 years.
"Making plays here, but no Shakespeare yet..."
I appreciated that!
Raynor with a German taxi full of queens on his way to give Creator a drag show.
strong independent queen that don't need no droppa lord. On point, my friend. Well played.
Those were some awesome games, thanks Harstem!
Love your casting, really makes my day to watch your videos :)
Guys, about the progress bar and timer spoiling the result... I just sent some feedback to Google asking them to give us a setting for hiding the progress bar and timer. If you think it is a good idea or have another idea, shoot them with the feedback. Maybe we can get ourselves an anti-spoiler feature.
Protoss evolved from trees. They respire through their bark-like skin.
Thanks
Very cool to see a comparison with similar builds by Creator!
I think that was a great pick for a bonus clip. Spoiler alert!
Watching Serral dismantle his opponent made Zerg look so overpowered and Protoss unplayable. But then Creator cleanly takes out another top tier Zerg. Just shows how different the outcome can be in different hands.
Winter I watch your casts everyday - thanks for the content.
the final game was very surprising but a great idea!
Auto captions changed "the Zerglings" to "dessertlings" at some point
Can you please start the cast at the 45 second mark at the latest? I'm really intersted in seeing what build the players are using, and we don't actually look at the first game builds until almost the 3 minute mark.
btw yeah, Protoss do not have mouths. They do need oxygen, but they "breath", absorb water and "eat" light through their skin sort of like Earth plants do. They also excrete through the skin😁. So for everyone who didn't know... now you know😅.
I love how protoss is constantly trying to reinvent the wheel to catch their opponents by surprise, meanwhile Terran and Zerg have spells they just don't ever really feel a need to use.
I see some salt in that comment. x)
It’s because Zerg has some spells that are bad. Contaminate risks losing supply for a small timeout that Protoss can chronoboost away. Microbial shroud is also known as “please storm here mr protoss”.
@@enriquegarciacota3914eah your assuming that they have templars though. However vs terran they don't have a melee unit
just change the 13overlord 16hatch to 13o15hatch gives that some seconds earlier hatch to "grant" the natural hatch ?
without stuck with 3 larva
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[Final] games is awesome. GGWP
Skeletor memes on that overlord plushie
"ive never seen 200 supply look so weak against serral" - lmfaoooooo truu
Great series!! @WinterStarcraft what replay ui do you use to get the battle report/probes+drones lost indicator?
Game 2 .. I think any lesser zerg dies right there from the glave adept opening. Serral handled that about as well as humanly possible.
I love the idea of the Final game. You should do it more of your videos. I would also like to see a video's with that. I think it was alex guy. I will have to rewatch this video to find out what his name was.
I bet Jimmy is just a mirror standing in your room Winter
overlord poop reducing on factory is nice. observer or prism or immortal 30 sec later can really confuse protoss´ plans. and no real way to prevent it
Winter uploaded a new starcraft cast? Better grab a snack this is gonna be a good one!
*fictional bonus like for bonus anti spoiler game, wich is actually very fitting, showing two players doing the same, but Serrals finesse being the difference!*
Why does it say Reynor vs Classic in the last game? I’m confused…
Thank you! Best casts
u can throw whatever u want at serral (dark, maxpax, gumiho, clem, etc)...and whatever crazy strats it just doesn't matter. guy is a god
Protoss breath through their skin as well as process sunlight for food. Water consumption is just touching it.
Who wins a Z v Z between dark and serral?
Love the bonus anti-spoiler games
I kinda wish that borrower did more for the Zerg when fighting terran, it sad that it basically has no real use.
Love the bonus game feature! Makes predicting the outcomes much harder. Keeping it exciting. Great work!
Gurl …
Seriously
The Raynor game shows how close he was to beating Serral in that first game. Denying charge and hitting the twilight at perfect times snowballed the entire game in Serral's favor. I'm not suggestion Creator was going to win , moreso that his 2-0 loss against serral doesn't tell the whole story.
*Final game *Spoiler alert
Instead of calling it a bonus game, it's a bonus hole game.
Man, the FINAL game was so different to the rest
Bonus damage vs. headsets will never not be funny to me xD
I dont know why Zerg players dont use infest more often. I wonder if they forget they have it?
i feel like tempest need more damage against massive air units. Protoss has no real answer against broodlord
the bls die on a few hits while tempest also has huge range, wym?
@@ahuzelthat huge range is nullified by having some corrupters, infestors or a viper. They are slow, expensive and have a low dps, which means they can only be used to send a few blasts onto the peripheral units before retreating back to their (massive) support group, and hope they don't get swarmed, yoinked or fungaled.
@@tankbuggeru if only feedback had enough range, low cost and instant cast...
let alone psionic storm for zoning.
if u already have air, voids also eat corruptors
@@ahuzel sure, but templars are extremely slow and weak ground units, and juggling them in a prism takes a lot of skill, not to mention that they are a completely different tech tree. But vipers are fast air units that pay for themselves with a single yoink against lategame airtoss and can refill its mana quickly. There is no question that feedback and especially psi-storm are powerful spells, but the caster is too clunky to favor a good trade in comparison to the "free kill guarantee" that a viper would bring against tempests/carrier/mothership. No wonder the pro-tosses (hehe) are trying to win the game with phoenix/oracle harassment, leading into good mid-game ground army. Late game vs zerg is a nightmare.
Love the casts
Go go toss! Zerg are grody
I still remember Dark made Creator cry @IEM Katowice
What a painful first game! 😢
Protosses just play so greedy with oracles. He easily could have gotten 4 drones and kept both alive in game one. The spore fired off like 10 times too! Imagine if he could have kept them alive just for scouting and defensive stasis’s :/
Yay a final game
Do you ever reach the like goals 😅
When Byun plays zerg.....
Ramboverlord!
You're so great :D ♥
I'll put it in my resume but at what cost?
that "creep" from the carbot seems more like a good pair of...
What abuse is that? Timestamp?
most underated spell is oracle stasis , each cast does 400-800 mineral dmg. most toss get 2 anyway, all you really have to do is park them in back of zerg base to get thousands of resource ahead
give this man a like
nice bonus game
Final Game?
Game 3 really felt like a bonus game. It was amazing!
@@mihya5954 truly! 🤣
If people spoil themselves going straight to the comments I have no sympathy. That's plain stupid.
is it me or Serral looks like Freddy krueger 00:38
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This was a spoiler for the Bonus game.
Thank you.
For Jimmy and the 1075 Likes.
Seems to me that Zerg is over powered. They have an answer for all stages of the game in a way Protoss doesn't have and Terran has slightly. But overall Zerg seems to be SO MUCH tankier but also have so much of a higher dps, than when I used to play SC1 back in the day. They also seem to have by far the best spell casting.
When Serral plays them, yes. They look very different when *I* play them.
Roger That :)
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Don't mind me, I'm just leaving a comment, so Winter feels bad about not responding.
I don't see how toss has any chance against fungal whatsoever. It just counters everything that they have all in one. Really balanced.
What about some feedback to prevent it :D
@@pange8132 feedback is the worst spell in the game
@@pange8132 Even if, hypothetically, it worked, then you have the matchup centered entirely around toss rushing to a single spell to counter zerg spamming a single spell. Such an interesting viewing experience.
It doesn't really do all that much against a solid Protoss archon-immortal-colossus-stalker deathball, meanwhile Protoss has acess to the psionic storm which is much more powerful than a fungal.
@@bleflar9183 You don't understand what the point is of fungal. Psionic storm doesn't prevent your opponent from retreating and force them to die to you. Fungal is a better forcefield.
Yay
Honestly the final game demonstrated how amazing Serral is just by comparison.
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Nooice!
Phlushie easter egg ballsack ? lol
Careful there, your bias is showing...
1057 likes, very important metric. Will Winter respond to the comments today? No one knows.
"He's done a great job at not losing" if the caster ever says that to you... its time to hurry up and end your career.
for the algo
FIrst!
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protoss is so weak. and has been for so long..
No serral is op.
@@Wwillswords actually both things are true.
@Wwillswords when's the last time toss has won anything. Also who are the best toss players? And ask if they could even come close to the other races. Toss is weak af
@@MoonShroomMan a few weeks ago max pax and hero came in 2nd and first respectively in the wardi TV tournament.
@@MoonShroomMan and in personal opinion it goes her0 maxpax then classic