You see, it turns out, if you choose a more space efficient rectangular form factor and omit all the luxury amenities, you can build your tactically focused ships a lot smaller and more compact, yet still have plenty of usable interior room. Also helps to keep the effective tonnage down which makes for a more nimble yet sturdy ship.
@@axelhopfinger533 Star Trek is the only well known Sci-fiction that didn't learn that lesson yet. Halo, Babylon 5, Stargate, Battlestar, Star Wars, and etc. Got it right. Blocky ships maybe ugly to some, but they exist for a reason. It's like Starfleet have an unspoken rule to stick a certain ship 'mold' or it isn't Star Trek. It just limits creativity. Babylon 5's Earth Alliance is how 'real' human ships would look. Not pretty but very efficient rectangles. Most likely our future.
I think people get the typhoon scale wrong was because there is a , I belive, fan art of a much larger class based on it that launched defiant class ships.
@@QuantumNova Yeah, Star Fleet ships are simply too fixed on that "flying saucer with nacelles" Enterprise pattern. As if there is little to no evolution to the general shape of ships, even though the available technology evolves drastically. I mean, the most radical new design in all the real classic Star Trek series and movies which broke that mold was pretty much the Defiant and perhaps the Voyager with its elongated fused hull. But in general, Star Trek ships, much like Star Wars ships, are designed more to look cool and interesting on screen with only secondary priority given to functionality. BSG's and Babylon 5's ship designs were a lot more grounded and practical. Especially the Star Fury is still probably the most realistic star fighter design ever put on screen.
The cinematic of those ships is the best bit of sto in ages, I hope this means they are going to through themselves into trek from now on, love the ships and can't wait till they're on console, also hoping console will get the captain alteration token soon
One thing that is worth mentioning too about carrier builds: The update to the Obisek(sp) set on the 4th tier adds the same function as the new Typhoon trait w/ swarmers instead The functions do stack. So you can have an effective 4 hangar slots
4 and a third bays of pets all effected by SAD and pet buffs. I think Streamers in general have been too negative towards the T6 Obelisk and the toys it brings for pet builds.
Just to put it out there, gravity well is a pull (negative repel) and not a hold. A 'hold' is a different type of control that stops a target moving by themselves, unlike engines offline where you can still move very slowly using thrusters. Holds are not really that great in pve but can be very strong in pvp, where staying still is most likely certain death. For pvp it is a little worrying if it is a fixed 5 seconds and not scaled off ctrlx, because that probably means it also can't be resisted. In summery this trait has very limited if any use in pve and maybe broken in pvp. Thinking about it if they had made this trait so it was a pull instead and turned all your controls into a mini grav well, this would actually be a really good trait.
I always forget how small the Typhon is. Maybe it's because it's built like a flying brick and real-world carriers tend to be the biggest ships out there, but I always expect it to be massive, like a flying mini-starbase or something. Then I remember we're introduced to it, riding in on the Enterprise-E's underside and, yeah, for a full carrier, it's kinda tiny.
It's just designed in a very space optimized form factor. And focus built for its primary purpose, to be a tough and mobile launch base for its (limited) fighter compliment. Also i would rather compare it to one of those smaller amphibious assault/heli carriers than a full sized super aircraft carrier.
RL super carriers look so big due to there being no battleships being buit to a similar scale. WWII, everybodies carriers were still lighter than battleships.
Forget the Ahwanhi. The Typhon is the Battlestar Galactica of Star Trek! Stu, I know you don’t like the Typhon but PLEASE! Do a Galactica Build for the Typhon. Please!
Same here. I actually have his build on the Ahwanhi for the carrier build. All I'm missing is the T6-X2 console slots, the tactical console, and the Iso Mag Consoles for Phaser
I was discussing a Typhon themed build with someone based around its console, basically turning the Typhon into a "No Go" area (or at least a pretty light show generator!) in space using various PBAoE consoles and weapons Ship Consoles * Typhon Fortress Mode (Typhon, duh) * Proximity-Based Anti-Opposition Emitter (Kelvin Constitution II) * Experimental Power Redirection (Excelsior II) * Broadside Emitter Arrays (Vengence Intel Dreadnought) * Point Defense System (Thunderchild/Leg Akira) * Torpedo Point Defense System (Armitage/Leg Akira) * Cardassian Support Platform Cluster (Damar Intel Science Dreadnought) * Cardassian Mobile Torpedo Platform (Ghemor Intel Flight Deck Carrier) * Energy Discharge Capacitors (Breen Rezreth Dreadnought Cruiser) * Antimatter Spread (Various Galaxy bundles) Weapon Sets * Ability: Heavy Bio-Molecular Turret Barrage (3 Piece Counter-Command Ordnance set) Might not be the most effective, and it would be expensive, but it would be bright for a few seconds.
Yeah, I recall hearing them say somewhere that the engine would, at the very least, have a lot of trouble with more than two hangar bays or more than eight weapons on a ship.
what i like about the typhon's fortress mode is that it doesnt disable weapons, unlike the cnidarian's defense mode. sadly, the cnidarian is still better overall because the damage is much better and healing plus wider coverage.
I asked about Typhon / Valkyries like 6 years ago and was told they'd never be legally possible. This is like a dream come true for me. I just need my Mk III valks now and I can run all three variants on a single carrier.
Back then, that's what we assumed. But In recent years, Paramount told Cryptic they could use assets from other games (like ships and ground weapons) as long as they remade said assets themselves (which is a good deal because they would've had to anyway). Why is how this bundle is possible and how we've gotten other things over the past year or so, like the iMod from Elite Force.
Just got the bundle and I already LOVE it.. The Achilles CAN in fact equip dual cannons. Maybe they already fixed it. Fun fact: You can slot the Hexa Cannon in the experimental slot AND the Quad Cannon at the same time... basically a DECATUPLE cannon.. We're hitting some serious DAKKA levels here :D
I know Achilles can equip dual cannons (it's a Destroyer, would be weird if it couldn't). Premonition is the one that can't equip dual cannons, but should be able to because its a Spearhead.
I actually like the look of the Typhon. It looks like a brutal brick of a ship put together in a hurry. But again I like the look of the Battlestar Galactica. Edit: I just realized that the Typhon is very reminiscent of the Escort Carriers of WWII, i.e. small, refitted or purpose built ships with small air wings built for a specific purpose where the heavier ships would be too much for.
I picked up the bundle and the Typhon is by far my favorite of the three ships. It helped me to resurrect a long neglected cannon tac alt I had. The ship is a blast to play.
I've bought the bundle, but haven't had chance to mess around with any of the ships yet. Although I've played some older Star Trek games, I wasn't familiar with any of the ones referenced in this bundle, so I've got some catching up to do. The Premonition is probably the one I'm most excited to try; Spearheads may not be the most 'meta', but between the Crossfield and it's refit, the Duderstadt and the Protostar, it's probably the ship category I've had the most fun with, so I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with it.
that trait plus delta caller plus the alliance console that makes more pets quicker plus H.Y.D.R.A Plus the console rapid fire plus lexington mutli torpedo launcher plus point defense system = one hell of a ship
Premonition actually has decent potential for a DewSci/EPG boat with that double Temporal Seating, plus being able to slot Recursive Shearing 3 and Gravity Well on an EPG build is huge. I'm looking forward to tinkering around with this ship (and not just to summon a couple more F's)
It is the only one I am interested in. Nice turn rate. Not bad looking. 4/3 with a secondary deflector and 5 science slots. It's this or the Titan and this is it I think. I want to see it fly. How does it handle. Chekov isn't in the running. The reason is that my build crushes not matter what I put it on. I want something capable. I need a science ship so.
As soon as I saw the reviews, I had to go snatch this bundle up. I hope the sales of this package are enough, that the powers that be are forced to compare to the last several bundles, and focus on the fan friendly fundamentals that make this one so good.
I am so glad they made the Hex Phaser X weapon not bound to the Achillies. It really performs well and puts out a lot of DMG. A quad cannon plus Hex makes for a very nice 10X phaser cannons on a BOP. Makes me feel like I'm flying a Gunstar with only missing the spinning missile "Death Bloom" effect lol.
I really like the Premonition design, although I would have preferred it in its Armada skin and don't be said, I am sure when they make the Mirror Universe version it will be a battlecruiser.
so i did a little bundle Maths 1 ship = 3k Zen 3 Ex Upgrades = 2k Zen bundle give 4 Ships + 9 Upgrades =18k Zen bundle price = 12.5 Zen you save = 5.5k Zen nealy 2 ships FREE ( in sterlin thats est £40) on sale its 9,375 Zen for a total savings of 8,625 Zen
Typhon: For a brick, it flew pretty good. Achilles: Time to show 'em our new teeth. FIRE THE MAIN GUN! Premonition: Oh I can't kill you, but my buddies can. Say hi buddies! *HI!*
Thank you! I want them to do the Chariot class. You can find pictures of it online. It has no fan demand, I just think it looks cool as f*ck. If I ever run a Star Trek tabletop game, that's the ship the players will start with.
Thank you! I know get pretty ramble in videos like these, but I think it's important for people to know what exactly they're buying and I do my best to get that out there.
Come now. Cryptic rendered all full carriers obsolete, the moment all Flight Deck Carriers were given a second hanger. The second hanger was the only thing that was better on a full carrior over an FDC. FDCs had all the other benefits of more guns, more speed, more maneuverbility and often a better console layout too.
Premonition got close to being better than the Verne, but got let down by the bridge layout. If the Tactical was /TO, and the Ensign and Lt seats were switched, it would have been perfect.
I agree with your esthetic complaints about the Typhon. But I kind of love it for looking like nothing else. If they release an original BSG skin Id use it in a heartbeat. You put the what to do the what with your turrets??????? Jellyfish? I adore Star Trek Armada - its cool to see the the Premo show up...its probably got the seating to get me away from my 25th century sci ship :D So does it do it on activation or pulse? Cause you could do some insane things if it triggers with every activation of the GW
Im definitely getting this bundle when it comes out on Console. I have an idea for a mad build involving DHC's, the defiant quad cannons, and the Hexa Cannons from the Achilles
A really exciting bundle! Praying my Dilithium converts to Zen before the sale ends. I placed the exchange order 16 days ago to get the 'Federation Responder bundle'. I'll get this bundle instead.
The Premonition Class needs two build options, one DEW Sci build and then one Maxed out single target build, I can't not have that thing as kick azz as possible, its too pretty!
I've been hoping for the Typhon in sto for well over a decade. and the NAILED it. Im thinking about breaking out the Baul sentry set and doing an ANCHOR of death build. Also. The Achilles is still on of the sexiest startrek designs ever. Ill fight a bear over this.
I was with you on the Typhon being kinda ugly and originally had no real desire for it but damn after flying it it might be one of my favorite ships in the game. Small, agile, and so damn powerful with the stats and trait they gave it. Named mine the USS Adama. 😉
I wish the Premonition had been modeled closer to its appearance in Armada rather than reimagined with the Vesta aesthetic. The other two ships are so faithful... and the Premonition gets its heritage ignored. Should really look closer to a Sovereign... like the current model is fine... but its not really a "replica" of the ship like the blog says...
Honestly, I like the creative liberties they took with Premonition. The original was such a low res model (being from a RTS released in 2000) that they could make some additions so it coincides better with STO's aesthetic. It still resembles the Sovereign, like the original, but added some other elements from ships that would be from the future from the Sovereign's perspective, like the Vesta.
Typhon makes me like it more and more with everything I see or here about it. I never played the game it came from so I had no real context for it but... it actually fits my main character's whole deal pretty well; partly just for character lore reasons. The fact that it doesn't look like a Starfleet ship actually works in her favor, since I consider her part of an alien species allied closely with Starfleet - this ship feels like it could almost be a combo of her species tech base + Starfleet's. I freely admit this is a very silly thing but hey, space barbie for life! I also kinda wonder if that trait is them testing if their infrastructure can handle the extra pets? Maybe this is like "Okay so, we're going to basically do a limited live trial of a third hangar bay, but we obviously don't want *everyone* running 3 hangar bays at once so let's start it out with a trait, and if that holds up OK, maybe we can talk about a carrier rework with 3rd hangars where appropriate." I could be wrong, but I seem to remember them doing something like that before. Testing something via a trait and then later implementing it a bit more broadly. (I don't remember what offhand though and I could be confusing it with another game.)
Here's a crazy idea: Add an extra hangar bay to carriers when you apply a T6-X2 upgrade token to them. That way any existing carrier won't be left behind and you can choose what pets go in the hangar bay.
Really? I hadn't heard that. It's probably because of the holo-costume it puts on your ship, only Typhon's model has the animation for Fortress Mode. The same probably will likely occur in Wolf 359 too.
Do you see anything in this bundle changing the meta? Maybe the Typhon starship trait? Maybe? Last but not least... they really hated on the Premonition and I really was looking forward to it.
The Typhon's trait is only going to effect the Pet Build Meta. Like I said in the video, if you like Pet Builds, you'll want that trait. With how well Achilles' Experimental Weapon is doing, it'll likely be the Meta choice for Phaser builds (assuming you're on a ship with an Experimental Weapon slot).
@@Stu1701 I'm really happy to hear that about the hexacannon because it was definitely why I was eyeing the achilles because I love that alpha strike type of weapon (its why I love phaser lances).
I am working on a hybrid pet build for my flight deck carrier constitution (right now using the Legendary, but planning on getting the miracle worker with the campaign)
Yeah it pretty much was. They did say that they had to reimagine it for STO because of how low-poly the model and how low-res the textures were, which is why it does look a bit different than you might remember.
The Premonition's model in Armada is similar to the Sovereign's, but there noticeable differences beyond just the pod, which STO has replicated pretty well while still adding their own details.
I like the Typhoon; idk it looks nice to me. I also like BSG a lot, maybe there is truly a coincidence 😅. Unfortunately, ships with floating parts like warp nacelles don't resonate at all with me. Good video as always, thank you!
oh i just see u have the Shuttle Summon from the last event slotted, u dont need to do that, it is available for use if u keep it in ur inventory aswell ^^
Was that in an inventory slot? I shouldn't have been, I know you can use them from your inventory. Probably mixed it up with the Flagship transponder, they look alike.
@@Stu1701 i see. i assumed u prob know it, but thought i mention it just in case, for ppl that just "copy paste" builds and see it in the device slot * ^^ *
Good thing I haven't bought the Valdres now that theres a better source of Valkyrie Fighters addendum: Typhon makes a great elite Ninth Rule stationary farm (I had Very Cold in Space to keep them there) oh and my Flight Decks and My Terran Lexington now had fun with the trait
its pretty amazing u called it, all 3 of them u said where pretty likely to happen, and boom: u nailed it ^^ and while all 3 look interesting and fun, the only the Achilles seems realy good to me, and maybe the Typhon for Carrier fans, but the Premenition seems a bit lackluster to me. will have to wait and see i guess ^^
Could you do a video on the difference between Damage Resistance and Bonus Damage Resistance? I'm terrible at math and have no idea what the Wiki is trying to explain lol. Thx!
For some strange reason despite whats written in the description of the Typhoon. Its hangers come with Alliance fighter squadrons and not valkyrie fighter squadrons? I found that confusing if you only bought the ship solo.
I was heavily disappointed the Gemini console doesn't target an allied ship. Id love it if it could target an ally but the Enterprise comes in when no valid allies are nearby
So what I'm hearing is that you will be coming out with an updated lazy boat build that's a mix of the snw Connie lazy boat, and the awahnee pet build soon, for the Typhon?
Let's be honest. If the Achilles had that science Council in the engineering Council section, would you really put anything other than an Isomag in it? I think they did that as a way to balance the ship.
As a noob who bought this pack, can you do a budget build of this? (or maybe here is x-upgrades you can try to get later). I tried looking up "cannon builds", but most of them are from like a year or 2 ago, and i assume things have changed since then? I would really like to join a fleet and i just say "i have x ship" and they say "Put x on". I like to play a game, and i don't mind grinding, but i don't want to do all the math/calculations/ testing to know what is the best build for each ship.
As much as i hate the look of the Typhon the lazy boat build looks nice on it and kinda makes it theme will you be doing a build video on it with the others also?
Half way through, i saw you "only" have 4 Isomags on the Achilles. Are they so much better, than 5 advanced tactical consoles you could fit in? Just curious, if i have to revamp all my ships because i didnt get the isomags :D
Isomags are pretty absurd, because you get the type damage, the weapon power, and a STACKING max weapon power modifier, meaning you end up with your weapon power holding steady at a level much higher than the normal max if you're using vulnerability loctors and exploiters. This makes is kind of hard to intuit how good they are from reading the percentages alone, but 4 isomags is better than 5 and probably 6 advanced tac consoles. It's not a big deal if you don't have them, though, but if you're dipping your toes into elite content, you probably want to look at getting some. They can increase your DPS a lot, or allow you to slot a few extra universal consoles for "free".
the answer is likely no. it's usually free t6 ship already released up to certain date. these ships wont be eligible until next year if it goes as usual
has anyone any luck finding the Valkyrie fighter squadron (any rarity) hangar pets in stores, I got the typhon assault carrier and was looking to upgrade pets but I can't find them anywhere. is this a bug, or am I just stupid?
The Typhon comes with the Valkyries, so it should unlock the option to buy the rarer versions. Advanced level should be available in the Dilithium store, and Elite should be at the Fleet Starbase. Check those places, and if you're still not seeing them, let me know and I'll ask around. I can't check it myself because I already have the Valkyries unlocked from other ships.
@@Stu1701 I just checked, I can't find any of the rarities of the Valkyrie squadron (I checked all stores with the exception of the fleet store, as my fleet isn't advanced enough to get access to elite hanger pets) and I bought the bundle; it's not like they're greyed out, I can't find them at all and I used the search function. I know the elite Valor fighters are good, but I wanted to try out the Valkyrie squadrons out of nostalgia.
Yep, you were right, because it's listed in today's patch notes. So you should be able to get the better versions of the Valkyries after today's patch.
Nobody cares about those ships. Those series' are for a generation that isn't playing STO. The only one's we really like are the oldies. They'll release a nostalgia pack 2.0 at some point.
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I'm surprised how tiny and non threatening the Typhon looks, yet it's like a lethal jack in a box
That's how it appeared in Star Trek Invasion. Spencer and I have been saying this since the Typhon was first teased, it's not a big ship.
You see, it turns out, if you choose a more space efficient rectangular form factor and omit all the luxury amenities, you can build your tactically focused ships a lot smaller and more compact, yet still have plenty of usable interior room. Also helps to keep the effective tonnage down which makes for a more nimble yet sturdy ship.
@@axelhopfinger533 Star Trek is the only well known Sci-fiction that didn't learn that lesson yet. Halo, Babylon 5, Stargate, Battlestar, Star Wars, and etc. Got it right. Blocky ships maybe ugly to some, but they exist for a reason. It's like Starfleet have an unspoken rule to stick a certain ship 'mold' or it isn't Star Trek. It just limits creativity.
Babylon 5's Earth Alliance is how 'real' human ships would look. Not pretty but very efficient rectangles. Most likely our future.
I think people get the typhoon scale wrong was because there is a , I belive, fan art of a much larger class based on it that launched defiant class ships.
@@QuantumNova Yeah, Star Fleet ships are simply too fixed on that "flying saucer with nacelles" Enterprise pattern. As if there is little to no evolution to the general shape of ships, even though the available technology evolves drastically.
I mean, the most radical new design in all the real classic Star Trek series and movies which broke that mold was pretty much the Defiant and perhaps the Voyager with its elongated fused hull.
But in general, Star Trek ships, much like Star Wars ships, are designed more to look cool and interesting on screen with only secondary priority given to functionality.
BSG's and Babylon 5's ship designs were a lot more grounded and practical. Especially the Star Fury is still probably the most realistic star fighter design ever put on screen.
7:00 We need a transforming console for April 1st, the "Mega Maid" console. 😹
The cinematic of those ships is the best bit of sto in ages, I hope this means they are going to through themselves into trek from now on, love the ships and can't wait till they're on console, also hoping console will get the captain alteration token soon
Love the concept of the battle carrier :)
It's a really good new direction/type of ship for them to explore.
One thing that is worth mentioning too about carrier builds:
The update to the Obisek(sp) set on the 4th tier adds the same function as the new Typhoon trait w/ swarmers instead The functions do stack. So you can have an effective 4 hangar slots
4 and a third bays of pets all effected by SAD and pet buffs. I think Streamers in general have been too negative towards the T6 Obelisk and the toys it brings for pet builds.
To get the 4th piece, that's only from getting the old T6 obelisk in lobi store?
@@Moose00019 Yeah
@@Moose00019 At the moment Lobi or buying the ship off the exchange. At some point its likely to appear in the Muds store.
@@TheCraftyNobodyis the console on the lobi obelisk unlocked for all ships or is it restricted to the lobi or event ship?
Just to put it out there, gravity well is a pull (negative repel) and not a hold. A 'hold' is a different type of control that stops a target moving by themselves, unlike engines offline where you can still move very slowly using thrusters. Holds are not really that great in pve but can be very strong in pvp, where staying still is most likely certain death. For pvp it is a little worrying if it is a fixed 5 seconds and not scaled off ctrlx, because that probably means it also can't be resisted.
In summery this trait has very limited if any use in pve and maybe broken in pvp.
Thinking about it if they had made this trait so it was a pull instead and turned all your controls into a mini grav well, this would actually be a really good trait.
All these ships have something super cool attached to them
yeah, even if you're not into the ships, the each ship at least has a good console or trait.
I always forget how small the Typhon is. Maybe it's because it's built like a flying brick and real-world carriers tend to be the biggest ships out there, but I always expect it to be massive, like a flying mini-starbase or something. Then I remember we're introduced to it, riding in on the Enterprise-E's underside and, yeah, for a full carrier, it's kinda tiny.
It's just designed in a very space optimized form factor. And focus built for its primary purpose, to be a tough and mobile launch base for its (limited) fighter compliment.
Also i would rather compare it to one of those smaller amphibious assault/heli carriers than a full sized super aircraft carrier.
RL super carriers look so big due to there being no battleships being buit to a similar scale. WWII, everybodies carriers were still lighter than battleships.
17:30 Basically anime missiles. They take 2-3 times longer to get to their target, because style.
Forget the Ahwanhi. The Typhon is the Battlestar Galactica of Star Trek!
Stu, I know you don’t like the Typhon but PLEASE! Do a Galactica Build for the Typhon. Please!
Same here. I actually have his build on the Ahwanhi for the carrier build. All I'm missing is the T6-X2 console slots, the tactical console, and the Iso Mag Consoles for Phaser
I wish the legendary Akria would been a tactical carrier
I was discussing a Typhon themed build with someone based around its console, basically turning the Typhon into a "No Go" area (or at least a pretty light show generator!) in space using various PBAoE consoles and weapons
Ship Consoles
* Typhon Fortress Mode (Typhon, duh)
* Proximity-Based Anti-Opposition Emitter (Kelvin Constitution II)
* Experimental Power Redirection (Excelsior II)
* Broadside Emitter Arrays (Vengence Intel Dreadnought)
* Point Defense System (Thunderchild/Leg Akira)
* Torpedo Point Defense System (Armitage/Leg Akira)
* Cardassian Support Platform Cluster (Damar Intel Science Dreadnought)
* Cardassian Mobile Torpedo Platform (Ghemor Intel Flight Deck Carrier)
* Energy Discharge Capacitors (Breen Rezreth Dreadnought Cruiser)
* Antimatter Spread (Various Galaxy bundles)
Weapon Sets
* Ability: Heavy Bio-Molecular Turret Barrage (3 Piece Counter-Command Ordnance set)
Might not be the most effective, and it would be expensive, but it would be bright for a few seconds.
Hello CWIS my old friend.
Yeah, I recall hearing them say somewhere that the engine would, at the very least, have a lot of trouble with more than two hangar bays or more than eight weapons on a ship.
It's well past time to update the engine anyway.
@@BNuts
Upgrading an entire game engine is a BIG job.
what i like about the typhon's fortress mode is that it doesnt disable weapons, unlike the cnidarian's defense mode. sadly, the cnidarian is still better overall because the damage is much better and healing plus wider coverage.
For some reason, the Typhon makes me want to do my part
I asked about Typhon / Valkyries like 6 years ago and was told they'd never be legally possible. This is like a dream come true for me. I just need my Mk III valks now and I can run all three variants on a single carrier.
Back then, that's what we assumed. But In recent years, Paramount told Cryptic they could use assets from other games (like ships and ground weapons) as long as they remade said assets themselves (which is a good deal because they would've had to anyway). Why is how this bundle is possible and how we've gotten other things over the past year or so, like the iMod from Elite Force.
Just got the bundle and I already LOVE it.. The Achilles CAN in fact equip dual cannons. Maybe they already fixed it. Fun fact: You can slot the Hexa Cannon in the experimental slot AND the Quad Cannon at the same time... basically a DECATUPLE cannon.. We're hitting some serious DAKKA levels here :D
I know Achilles can equip dual cannons (it's a Destroyer, would be weird if it couldn't). Premonition is the one that can't equip dual cannons, but should be able to because its a Spearhead.
@@Stu1701 oh... then it was me mixing something up.. Must be due to all the extasy about those new tough little ships :D
I actually like the look of the Typhon. It looks like a brutal brick of a ship put together in a hurry. But again I like the look of the Battlestar Galactica. Edit: I just realized that the Typhon is very reminiscent of the Escort Carriers of WWII, i.e. small, refitted or purpose built ships with small air wings built for a specific purpose where the heavier ships would be too much for.
I picked up the bundle and the Typhon is by far my favorite of the three ships. It helped me to resurrect a long neglected cannon tac alt I had. The ship is a blast to play.
I've bought the bundle, but haven't had chance to mess around with any of the ships yet. Although I've played some older Star Trek games, I wasn't familiar with any of the ones referenced in this bundle, so I've got some catching up to do. The Premonition is probably the one I'm most excited to try; Spearheads may not be the most 'meta', but between the Crossfield and it's refit, the Duderstadt and the Protostar, it's probably the ship category I've had the most fun with, so I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with it.
that trait plus delta caller plus the alliance console that makes more pets quicker plus H.Y.D.R.A Plus the console rapid fire plus lexington mutli torpedo launcher plus point defense system = one hell of a ship
Premonition actually has decent potential for a DewSci/EPG boat with that double Temporal Seating, plus being able to slot Recursive Shearing 3 and Gravity Well on an EPG build is huge. I'm looking forward to tinkering around with this ship (and not just to summon a couple more F's)
But we both know that summoning more Enterprise-F's is the most important part
@@Stu1701 Hey, I didn't get to the top of the EPG leaderboard by subjecting Shon to non consensual duplication
and you never will with that attitude!
The Achilles FUCKS. I absolutely love it, and I've been flying a Wing Cannon Overload Kumari since that class launched.
It is the only one I am interested in. Nice turn rate. Not bad looking. 4/3 with a secondary deflector and 5 science slots. It's this or the Titan and this is it I think. I want to see it fly. How does it handle. Chekov isn't in the running. The reason is that my build crushes not matter what I put it on. I want something capable. I need a science ship so.
"For a brick it flew pretty good"
As soon as I saw the reviews, I had to go snatch this bundle up. I hope the sales of this package are enough, that the powers that be are forced to compare to the last several bundles, and focus on the fan friendly fundamentals that make this one so good.
I am so glad they made the Hex Phaser X weapon not bound to the Achillies. It really performs well and puts out a lot of DMG. A quad cannon plus Hex makes for a very nice 10X phaser cannons on a BOP. Makes me feel like I'm flying a Gunstar with only missing the spinning missile "Death Bloom" effect lol.
I really like the Premonition design, although I would have preferred it in its Armada skin and don't be said, I am sure when they make the Mirror Universe version it will be a battlecruiser.
so i did a little bundle Maths
1 ship = 3k Zen
3 Ex Upgrades = 2k Zen
bundle give 4 Ships + 9 Upgrades =18k Zen
bundle price = 12.5 Zen
you save = 5.5k Zen nealy 2 ships FREE ( in sterlin thats est £40)
on sale its 9,375 Zen for a total savings of 8,625 Zen
Typhon: For a brick, it flew pretty good.
Achilles: Time to show 'em our new teeth. FIRE THE MAIN GUN!
Premonition: Oh I can't kill you, but my buddies can. Say hi buddies! *HI!*
Thank you! I want them to do the Chariot class. You can find pictures of it online. It has no fan demand, I just think it looks cool as f*ck. If I ever run a Star Trek tabletop game, that's the ship the players will start with.
Thanks! for all the great info you put out there for this community
Thank you! I know get pretty ramble in videos like these, but I think it's important for people to know what exactly they're buying and I do my best to get that out there.
@@Stu1701 We enjoy the rambles at least I do.
Come now. Cryptic rendered all full carriers obsolete, the moment all Flight Deck Carriers were given a second hanger. The second hanger was the only thing that was better on a full carrior over an FDC. FDCs had all the other benefits of more guns, more speed, more maneuverbility and often a better console layout too.
Premonition got close to being better than the Verne, but got let down by the bridge layout.
If the Tactical was /TO, and the Ensign and Lt seats were switched, it would have been perfect.
the sniper rifle works well in the Gorn Canyon picking them off the ledges
The reason I like the Typhon design is the same reason I like the Defiant. It's an atypical starfleet design.
I agree with your esthetic complaints about the Typhon. But I kind of love it for looking like nothing else. If they release an original BSG skin Id use it in a heartbeat.
You put the what to do the what with your turrets??????? Jellyfish?
I adore Star Trek Armada - its cool to see the the Premo show up...its probably got the seating to get me away from my 25th century sci ship :D
So does it do it on activation or pulse? Cause you could do some insane things if it triggers with every activation of the GW
Im definitely getting this bundle when it comes out on Console. I have an idea for a mad build involving DHC's, the defiant quad cannons, and the Hexa Cannons from the Achilles
A really exciting bundle! Praying my Dilithium converts to Zen before the sale ends. I placed the exchange order 16 days ago to get the 'Federation Responder bundle'. I'll get this bundle instead.
The Premonition Class needs two build options, one DEW Sci build and then one Maxed out single target build, I can't not have that thing as kick azz as possible, its too pretty!
I've been hoping for the Typhon in sto for well over a decade. and the NAILED it. Im thinking about breaking out the Baul sentry set and doing an ANCHOR of death build.
Also. The Achilles is still on of the sexiest startrek designs ever. Ill fight a bear over this.
I was with you on the Typhon being kinda ugly and originally had no real desire for it but damn after flying it it might be one of my favorite ships in the game. Small, agile, and so damn powerful with the stats and trait they gave it.
Named mine the USS Adama. 😉
the servers are so clogged today, i haven't been able to log in all day
A Typhon Lazy Boat--YAAAAAASSSS!
I wish the Premonition had been modeled closer to its appearance in Armada rather than reimagined with the Vesta aesthetic. The other two ships are so faithful... and the Premonition gets its heritage ignored. Should really look closer to a Sovereign... like the current model is fine... but its not really a "replica" of the ship like the blog says...
Honestly, I like the creative liberties they took with Premonition. The original was such a low res model (being from a RTS released in 2000) that they could make some additions so it coincides better with STO's aesthetic. It still resembles the Sovereign, like the original, but added some other elements from ships that would be from the future from the Sovereign's perspective, like the Vesta.
To told the truth Achilles with Odyssey hull and Defiant pattern looks stunning.
Typhon makes me like it more and more with everything I see or here about it. I never played the game it came from so I had no real context for it but... it actually fits my main character's whole deal pretty well; partly just for character lore reasons.
The fact that it doesn't look like a Starfleet ship actually works in her favor, since I consider her part of an alien species allied closely with Starfleet - this ship feels like it could almost be a combo of her species tech base + Starfleet's.
I freely admit this is a very silly thing but hey, space barbie for life!
I also kinda wonder if that trait is them testing if their infrastructure can handle the extra pets? Maybe this is like "Okay so, we're going to basically do a limited live trial of a third hangar bay, but we obviously don't want *everyone* running 3 hangar bays at once so let's start it out with a trait, and if that holds up OK, maybe we can talk about a carrier rework with 3rd hangars where appropriate."
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember them doing something like that before. Testing something via a trait and then later implementing it a bit more broadly. (I don't remember what offhand though and I could be confusing it with another game.)
Here's a crazy idea: Add an extra hangar bay to carriers when you apply a T6-X2 upgrade token to them. That way any existing carrier won't be left behind and you can choose what pets go in the hangar bay.
And buff Frigates
It should be noted that when playing PvE matches like Battle of the Binary Stars, the Typhon doesn't currently seem to be able to use Fortress mode.
Really? I hadn't heard that. It's probably because of the holo-costume it puts on your ship, only Typhon's model has the animation for Fortress Mode. The same probably will likely occur in Wolf 359 too.
Do you see anything in this bundle changing the meta? Maybe the Typhon starship trait? Maybe? Last but not least... they really hated on the Premonition and I really was looking forward to it.
The Typhon's trait is only going to effect the Pet Build Meta. Like I said in the video, if you like Pet Builds, you'll want that trait. With how well Achilles' Experimental Weapon is doing, it'll likely be the Meta choice for Phaser builds (assuming you're on a ship with an Experimental Weapon slot).
@@Stu1701 I'm really happy to hear that about the hexacannon because it was definitely why I was eyeing the achilles because I love that alpha strike type of weapon (its why I love phaser lances).
wouldn't it be nice to actually control what EXTRA hanger bay they have in it to launch? like a 3rd 7 shuttle, or throw in something else? just ideas.
I am working on a hybrid pet build for my flight deck carrier constitution (right now using the Legendary, but planning on getting the miracle worker with the campaign)
The Typhon looks like the cutout of the Vengence.
If memory served me correctly in Armada, the Premonition was literally a Sovereign class with the temporal pod attached to the top back of the saucer,
Yeah it pretty much was. They did say that they had to reimagine it for STO because of how low-poly the model and how low-res the textures were, which is why it does look a bit different than you might remember.
The Premonition's model in Armada is similar to the Sovereign's, but there noticeable differences beyond just the pod, which STO has replicated pretty well while still adding their own details.
I like the Typhoon; idk it looks nice to me. I also like BSG a lot, maybe there is truly a coincidence 😅. Unfortunately, ships with floating parts like warp nacelles don't resonate at all with me. Good video as always, thank you!
oh i just see u have the Shuttle Summon from the last event slotted, u dont need to do that, it is available for use if u keep it in ur inventory aswell ^^
Was that in an inventory slot? I shouldn't have been, I know you can use them from your inventory. Probably mixed it up with the Flagship transponder, they look alike.
@@Stu1701 i see. i assumed u prob know it, but thought i mention it just in case, for ppl that just "copy paste" builds and see it in the device slot * ^^ *
Elite Force 2 weapons should have been skin updates for the weapons in the ESD vendor.
I love this bundle so much!
Good thing I haven't bought the Valdres now that theres a better source of Valkyrie Fighters
addendum: Typhon makes a great elite Ninth Rule stationary farm (I had Very Cold in Space to keep them there) oh and my Flight Decks and My Terran Lexington now had fun with the trait
Mirror Premonition will be a Temporal Battle Cruiser
its pretty amazing u called it, all 3 of them u said where pretty likely to happen, and boom: u nailed it ^^ and while all 3 look interesting and fun, the only the Achilles seems realy good to me, and maybe the Typhon for Carrier fans, but the Premenition seems a bit lackluster to me. will have to wait and see i guess ^^
This is what federation ships should look like, no obvious weak spots and heavily armored and armed, no matter the size.
Could you do a video on the difference between Damage Resistance and Bonus Damage Resistance? I'm terrible at math and have no idea what the Wiki is trying to explain lol. Thx!
For some strange reason despite whats written in the description of the Typhoon. Its hangers come with Alliance fighter squadrons and not valkyrie fighter squadrons? I found that confusing if you only bought the ship solo.
Picked the bundle up last night. Was only able to play around with the Achilles but I love it!
“Why couldn’t it be a battle cruiser”……. Could be worse…its console clicky could have summoned two enterprise G’s instead 😂
I was heavily disappointed the Gemini console doesn't target an allied ship. Id love it if it could target an ally but the Enterprise comes in when no valid allies are nearby
I like the way STO did it
"When it first came out"
Like, yesterday? 😂
Just ragging on you, Stu. Thanks for another great video!
So what I'm hearing is that you will be coming out with an updated lazy boat build that's a mix of the snw Connie lazy boat, and the awahnee pet build soon, for the Typhon?
yeah, pretty much
I always just thought of the Typhon as a fat Defiant, myself - I mean, Worf designed it so - of course - it's blocky and tanky and turns on a dime
Let's be honest. If the Achilles had that science Council in the engineering Council section, would you really put anything other than an Isomag in it? I think they did that as a way to balance the ship.
Yeah, I'm gonna grab the bundle, Lovely stuff, good value. Any yes, I need those hangar pets😊. Great review
As a noob who bought this pack, can you do a budget build of this? (or maybe here is x-upgrades you can try to get later). I tried looking up "cannon builds", but most of them are from like a year or 2 ago, and i assume things have changed since then?
I would really like to join a fleet and i just say "i have x ship" and they say "Put x on". I like to play a game, and i don't mind grinding, but i don't want to do all the math/calculations/ testing to know what is the best build for each ship.
When I saw fortress mode in the trailer I'm like "holy s" they added death blossom to a ship.
the jellyfish console needs to be timed also
Tphon looks cool and is a good platform , very nice.
What's been kicking my ass is the Dilithium refinement cap. I've got hundreds of thousands of Dilithium, but none of it is refined.
I've been waiting for a good fed carrier forever
As much as i hate the look of the Typhon the lazy boat build looks nice on it and kinda makes it theme will you be doing a build video on it with the others also?
I like this guy saying word 'slot' 🤭
Can you please do a build(s) video for the Achilles?
The typhoon is small it surprised me how small it is
Typhon should have been Com - MW
Achilles should have been MW - Int
Premonition should have been Temp - Plt/Int
the typhon slaps.... but for some reason i cant buy the valkryie fighters still
Half way through, i saw you "only" have 4 Isomags on the Achilles. Are they so much better, than 5 advanced tactical consoles you could fit in? Just curious, if i have to revamp all my ships because i didnt get the isomags :D
Isomags are pretty absurd, because you get the type damage, the weapon power, and a STACKING max weapon power modifier, meaning you end up with your weapon power holding steady at a level much higher than the normal max if you're using vulnerability loctors and exploiters. This makes is kind of hard to intuit how good they are from reading the percentages alone, but 4 isomags is better than 5 and probably 6 advanced tac consoles. It's not a big deal if you don't have them, though, but if you're dipping your toes into elite content, you probably want to look at getting some. They can increase your DPS a lot, or allow you to slot a few extra universal consoles for "free".
@@MrVeps1 Thanks mate :) that could explain why my lexingtion FAW (7 Isomags) shreds through patrols :D
Can you please share what consoles you are using on the Typhoon and Achilles?
Brother, I need the loadout list of the Typhon. My eyes aren't fit to see stuff meant for ants.
got ya covered. literally working on the build video now.
Best bundle in years imo
Those combat pets are only if you buy the bundle? ffs
The achiles is one sexy ship
Come now. We all know that someone at Cryptic has a real hard on for Sniper rifles and pulsewaves. Both generally mediocre weapons.
Dumb question. Are the T6 coupons from the year end event
Reward eligible for these new ships to be purchased individually?
the answer is likely no. it's usually free t6 ship already released up to certain date. these ships wont be eligible until next year if it goes as usual
You can purchase these ships individually using T6 C Store ship tokens yes. It is how i got all three ships (as i wasn't interested in the bundle)
has anyone any luck finding the Valkyrie fighter squadron (any rarity) hangar pets in stores, I got the typhon assault carrier and was looking to upgrade pets but I can't find them anywhere. is this a bug, or am I just stupid?
The Typhon comes with the Valkyries, so it should unlock the option to buy the rarer versions. Advanced level should be available in the Dilithium store, and Elite should be at the Fleet Starbase. Check those places, and if you're still not seeing them, let me know and I'll ask around. I can't check it myself because I already have the Valkyries unlocked from other ships.
@@Stu1701 I just checked, I can't find any of the rarities of the Valkyrie squadron (I checked all stores with the exception of the fleet store, as my fleet isn't advanced enough to get access to elite hanger pets) and I bought the bundle; it's not like they're greyed out, I can't find them at all and I used the search function. I know the elite Valor fighters are good, but I wanted to try out the Valkyrie squadrons out of nostalgia.
Yep, you were right, because it's listed in today's patch notes. So you should be able to get the better versions of the Valkyries after today's patch.
@@Stu1701 Appreciate the help. Now, i need to get wide arc phaser heavy cannons set up for the full experiences and I'll be set.
The handle of the rifle looks IMPOSSIBLE to hold. I know that means nothing but I can't NOT see that.
i just want the Eisenberg =(
Haha, I found a post credits text and wanna my reward 😗
Epic bundle comes out and the arc servers take a dump lol
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The Typhon, she's ugly but she has a great personality.
I like this bundle, but you know they're running out of ships to sell us when they start to rely on nostalgia bait.
There are alot of new ships in the new Star Trek shows
Nobody cares about those ships. Those series' are for a generation that isn't playing STO. The only one's we really like are the oldies. They'll release a nostalgia pack 2.0 at some point.