Drove a Mack with a M drive 12 sp auto tranny while pulling a 5 axle dump trailer, shifted as smooth as smooth can be, the truck had a lot of power, just ran beautifully
Yes drive a Volvo F16 at the moment, 750 hp I-shift 12 speed with crawler gears, Superb gearbox similar to the Mack M speed, Will pull 220 tons no problem. Been in heavy haul for about 30 years an it just keeps improving. When i first started if we had 6 gears and splitter box or a 2 speed axle we thought we were lucky.
Hi Sergei EATON CUMMINS have an excellent spokesman with your experience background and knowledge in driving heavy haul. I drove trucks in Hawaii for thirty years 5/4 transmission I thought that was the best didn’t trust even eton 18 speed. I just watched you drive with the EATON DURA SHIFT. THE BEST EVER. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY AMEN.
Personally, I would choose the 18 speed manual any day of the week. Ive had the opportunity to use both automated shifting and fully automatic transmissions. I understand the pros and cons of them all but I feel the manuals are tried and true. But im also one of the few these days thats actually knows how to shift. Love the videos captain!! Keep them coming!
I used to haul out of Sharon Springs, NY on US 20. Just west of Dwaynesburg headed east there is a stoplight on a hill, we used to joke that the owner of the convenience store had a button to turn the light red and he got a commission from the truck parts company for every clutch and transmission they sold….
Hey Sergei !! You'll be in for an ""EXPERIENCE "" for sure !! Have ""FUN"" with it !! Make sure that you ""STOP"" on a hill with a full load & Start out again as that will be the test for US 20 in NY.. See what happens then !!!
F Drive South isn't too far from my house - done a lot of fishing around that area. Hardly anyone fishes the little streams and creeks. Caught a 44 inch pike in one of them. They stock some with trout. Really a hidden gem of an area if you like to fish.
Manual you feel more in control of your rig...but auto shift is nice in traffic and you have one less thing to think about going down the road. Leaves you more focused to keep your eyes and mind on other important matters.
I have there twice, for the Michigan Center for Defensive Driving course. Only place you can jack knifing at tractor/trailer and drive out of it with no damage.
This will be interesting! Probably something that will be important to you is how much it well let you over ride the it. Will it let you hold a gear, go up or down or will the computer "no best" and not let you do much. It's interesting that you think you could do HH with a 13. I often think the ratio's seem wrong in your truck. Too many gears below 45kph. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like you have plenty of torque, those low gears are very torquey too. When you 'want more' is often in the hills when your loosing speed. Closer and more gears up at the 45+ range would seem to be useful. Even though when light or on a flat you might skip those gears most of the time they'll be there when you need em! Which as you say, is like a 13 not splitting the first 5. But... it seems like a 18 would be useful if they stretched out the lower gears to give you better ratios at real driving speeds.
I drove the western states in the 80's . I had 13's, 10, and 9's. We didnt have the power of todays trucks, but I like the 13 speed roadranger the best. The best sounding truck I had was a Pete 352 V12 detroit with a 10 speed......THAT THING WOULD HUMMMMMMM....I miss that sound
I have to admit for me I love, love, love old style trucks and transmissions and their reliability, however I must admit to being excited about seeing this review you have coming up because I applied to a transport company out in Wisconsin who drives the 18 speed manual Eaton Fuller transmissions and I have heard from an owner operator himself how reliable and enjoyable they are to operate. He appears to be driving an auto now. So yeah although I am pro-manual, I cannot should not deny my excitement for this review. The best thing about an auto is not wearing out your body prematurely, but at the same time learning floating gears would help there, big thing is learning to be content with it going slower up a hill if it does not shift fast enough. Im partially bias.
Hi captain this is great that you have Picker to do this new Eaton auto transmission. You needs to ask in the have 10% grade on a Hot Day 35c with say 50 tone or 110 thoundand pounds going up hill for about 2 or 3 mile or 5 kms, this Will let you know how hot this auto transmission Will get. Australia road train do NOT have this auto in them its to Hot in australia in Summer when pulling 3 B trailers and 1 A trailer.
A lot of construction companies here in the Northwest United States tried automatic transmissions, the driver's that actually knows how to drive a manual transmission hated them and the companies didn't like them because of all the downtime and expenses for repairs, they also get stuck easily in soft dirt.
Automatic transmission falls into two categories, the slush box with a torque converter you find in your car and the robotized manual gearbox. The main difference is that the robotized has an ordinary clutch that's also robotized, so you shall never let it drag because that consumes the clutch quickly. That's the hardest thing when you come from a car with auto gearbox to change behavior.
Hi Sergei, What transmission is your friend using - overdrive or direct drive ? what rear gear ratio do you prefer and your friend with an automatic transmission? Thank you . Be safe!
Otr mostly long haul on road or city mostly flat terrain I'd go auto. Construction very difficult terrain constantly traveling winding back country roads manual by far is best.
Regardless of how good the auto is DO NOT try and retrofit it into your truck. That would be looking for trouble. Just buy another truck with it already in it. Also unless they allow you to take their truck for a month and pull some heavy loads like you normally do it will not be a good test because it would not be real world.
@@matt89108 Hi, that's why I asked. In the Netherlands Army they used Allison automatic with a torqueconverter in FTF 4050 tanktransporters. Engine was a Detroit 12 V71. They came in service over 45 years ago.
The worst thing about automatics is they let anybody drive, a lot of which shouldn’t be. How do these guys get a CDL when they can’t even back a trailer ? How ?
I'll report next week, but from what I understand it's like having an auto tranny in a car -- there's only 2 pedals: 1) brakes 2) throttle. check out the link in the Description to the Product page for more information.
It's a clutch that works the exact same way as a normal manual transmission clutch but instead of a clutch pedal there is an actuator built into the transmission that operates the clutch
Don't give in, manual is the way to go. If you float the gears, you can shift almost as fast or even faster. Don't put your life in the hands of electronics anymore than you have to.
allison transmision is the best and is the most exspensive eaton does not compare i have alot of experience eaton auto shift has a regular clutch that is syntriphical like a snowmobile the transmision has a syntriphical clutch my compony has alot of eaton auto shifts and we have alot of failures which do not record the failures they produce detroit transmissions and volvo mack transmidssions have proven alot more reliable then eaton
Wow, your company must run some old trucks seeing how Eaton has not made a transmission with a Centrifugal clutch for over 10 years. Try running some modern equipment and then report back.
From a MACK/Volvo dealer level....we see WAY more issues with Eaton Ultra shift customer trucks when compared to I shift/M Drive transmission customers. Lots of clutch issues with Ultra shift. 1 Volvo fleet customer specs ISX with Ultrashift trans. Lots of trans issues. Over 90% of Volvo’s built are factory equipped with I shift. They are doing well on the market but more issues then a truck equipped with a manual Eaton trans and a good driver.
Drove a Mack with a M drive 12 sp auto tranny while pulling a 5 axle dump trailer, shifted as smooth as smooth can be, the truck had a lot of power, just ran beautifully
Yes drive a Volvo F16 at the moment, 750 hp I-shift 12 speed with crawler gears, Superb gearbox similar to the Mack M speed, Will pull 220 tons no problem. Been in heavy haul for about 30 years an it just keeps improving. When i first started if we had 6 gears and splitter box or a 2 speed axle we thought we were lucky.
Company drivers will go with automatic transmission, cause many drivers can’t shift, owners operators will choose stick , simply as that 🤷
To be truthful, company drivers get what they get.
I have an Eaton 18 automated in my 389, best thing I ever bought. It cost more, don't care. Also, heated and cooled seats.
Love the content brother. I've been following you since 2013.
Very interesting. Hope this is a great experience. Take care.
I have the Eaton Ultra shift plus 18spd In my 2020 Peterbilt 567 50 ton Heavy Duty wrecker, I love it and never want to drive a manual again lol
Hi Sergei EATON CUMMINS have an excellent spokesman with your experience background and knowledge in driving heavy haul. I drove trucks in Hawaii for thirty years 5/4 transmission I thought that was the best didn’t trust even eton 18 speed. I just watched you drive with the EATON DURA SHIFT. THE BEST EVER. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY AMEN.
Personally, I would choose the 18 speed manual any day of the week. Ive had the opportunity to use both automated shifting and fully automatic transmissions. I understand the pros and cons of them all but I feel the manuals are tried and true. But im also one of the few these days thats actually knows how to shift. Love the videos captain!! Keep them coming!
I used to haul out of Sharon Springs, NY on US 20. Just west of Dwaynesburg headed east there is a stoplight on a hill, we used to joke that the owner of the convenience store had a button to turn the light red and he got a commission from the truck parts company for every clutch and transmission they sold….
Hey Sergei !! You'll be in for an ""EXPERIENCE "" for sure !! Have ""FUN"" with it !! Make sure that you ""STOP"" on a hill with a full load & Start out again as that will be the test for US 20 in NY.. See what happens then !!!
F Drive South isn't too far from my house - done a lot of fishing around that area. Hardly anyone fishes the little streams and creeks. Caught a 44 inch pike in one of them. They stock some with trout. Really a hidden gem of an area if you like to fish.
Manual you feel more in control of your rig...but auto shift is nice in traffic and you have one less thing to think about going down the road. Leaves you more focused to keep your eyes and mind on other important matters.
I have there twice, for the Michigan Center for Defensive Driving course. Only place you can jack knifing at tractor/trailer and drive out of it with no damage.
There is one in San Bernardino, CA opened in 1993.
This will be interesting! Probably something that will be important to you is how much it well let you over ride the it. Will it let you hold a gear, go up or down or will the computer "no best" and not let you do much. It's interesting that you think you could do HH with a 13. I often think the ratio's seem wrong in your truck. Too many gears below 45kph. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like you have plenty of torque, those low gears are very torquey too. When you 'want more' is often in the hills when your loosing speed. Closer and more gears up at the 45+ range would seem to be useful. Even though when light or on a flat you might skip those gears most of the time they'll be there when you need em! Which as you say, is like a 13 not splitting the first 5. But... it seems like a 18 would be useful if they stretched out the lower gears to give you better ratios at real driving speeds.
I drove the western states in the 80's . I had 13's, 10, and 9's. We didnt have the power of todays trucks, but I like the 13 speed roadranger the best. The best sounding truck I had was a Pete 352 V12 detroit with a 10 speed......THAT THING WOULD HUMMMMMMM....I miss that sound
I have to admit for me I love, love, love old style trucks and transmissions and their reliability, however I must admit to being excited about seeing this review you have coming up because I applied to a transport company out in Wisconsin who drives the 18 speed manual Eaton Fuller transmissions and I have heard from an owner operator himself how reliable and enjoyable they are to operate. He appears to be driving an auto now. So yeah although I am pro-manual, I cannot should not deny my excitement for this review. The best thing about an auto is not wearing out your body prematurely, but at the same time learning floating gears would help there, big thing is learning to be content with it going slower up a hill if it does not shift fast enough. Im partially bias.
What a cool experience for you! Enjoy!
Amazing English! Respect.
Agh o the major is going to be a big star Congrats and the best of luck
An eaton Cummins”ha” what you want is a 5 by4 spicer in a K9 international. Couldn't beat them, never broke down.
I'll be hard to convince to leave my 20sd Spicer, but, this will be very interesting to see Capt'n. Les
What is a 20sd Spicer? Never heard of that transmission.
Finnish Sisu truck can be equipped with Eaton Fuller transmission, they are very popular here in timber trucks
yow the volvo passing by at 0:48 is it me or one of the rear axles not spinning?
Can’t wait to see the testing videos
Hi captain this is great that you have Picker to do this new Eaton auto transmission. You needs to ask in the have 10% grade on a Hot Day 35c with say 50 tone or 110 thoundand pounds going up hill for about 2 or 3 mile or 5 kms, this Will let you know how hot this auto transmission Will get. Australia road train do NOT have this auto in them its to Hot in australia in Summer when pulling 3 B trailers and 1 A trailer.
A lot of construction companies here in the Northwest United States tried automatic transmissions, the driver's that actually knows how to drive a manual transmission hated them and the companies didn't like them because of all the downtime and expenses for repairs, they also get stuck easily in soft dirt.
Automatic transmission falls into two categories, the slush box with a torque converter you find in your car and the robotized manual gearbox. The main difference is that the robotized has an ordinary clutch that's also robotized, so you shall never let it drag because that consumes the clutch quickly. That's the hardest thing when you come from a car with auto gearbox to change behavior.
👍👌💪 AWESOME OPPORTUNITY COLONEL 💪💪💪💪💪 🤗 Let's hope you can record something of your ("HANDS-ON") experience.
THANKS COLONEL 😍😍😍😍😍🙏
Hope they can make you a good deal on swapping out your existing transmission for the new model.
About time someone sponsored you
Hi Sergei,
What transmission is your friend using - overdrive or direct drive ?
what rear gear ratio do you prefer and your friend with an automatic transmission?
Thank you . Be safe!
Cannot wait to see your impressions
Usually cheaper on insurance with automatic over stick as he says you're paying more attention to traffic
Good day Sergi. Can you tell me why you went from your Kaufmann to Fontaine
There are plenty of videos that show automatic transmissions pulling heavy loads on RUclips
As the guy from Misery said, SHOW ME!
See you then,thanks for sharing .
Never have to worry about a manual overheating.
i drive manual 18 speed and i dont want something else... and im a company driver... my boss put want we want.
What is ur rear end gear ratio
I remember him saying 4.11
Have a good time 🌃 from the Glendenning family kitchener Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
cant wait to see the review Captian.
Otr mostly long haul on road or city mostly flat terrain I'd go auto. Construction very difficult terrain constantly traveling winding back country roads manual by far is best.
should be interesting, looking forward to video.
Morning sergei ....keep your truck ..manual...
How about Allison?
18 speed, 46rears, for heavy haul minimum, but I'm a fool, lol
Regardless of how good the auto is DO NOT try and retrofit it into your truck. That would be looking for trouble. Just buy another truck with it already in it. Also unless they allow you to take their truck for a month and pull some heavy loads like you normally do it will not be a good test because it would not be real world.
Why not ? The engine and drive axles are the same now as when he bought the truck
👍👍👍👍 I love trees.
I heard the opposite manuals are more expensive and automatics are easier
Hi, does the new transmission come with a torque converter?
No, but the Allison AUTOMATIC does.
@@matt89108 Hi, that's why I asked. In the Netherlands Army they used Allison automatic with a torqueconverter in FTF 4050 tanktransporters. Engine was a Detroit 12 V71. They came in service over 45 years ago.
If you can't shift, go with n auto
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Let an automatic break and see what it cost ya !
No warranty time to trade it on an auto Serge
The worst thing about automatics is they let anybody drive, a lot of which shouldn’t be. How do these guys get a CDL when they can’t even back a trailer ? How ?
this new transmission is it with the Centrifugal clutch or a manual clutch the 3 pedal system im not sure if they still offer a 3 pedal system
I'll report next week, but from what I understand it's like having an auto tranny in a car -- there's only 2 pedals: 1) brakes 2) throttle. check out the link in the Description to the Product page for more information.
It's a clutch that works the exact same way as a normal manual transmission clutch but instead of a clutch pedal there is an actuator built into the transmission that operates the clutch
You are a bit behind the times mate
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Always loved to bobtail...makes the big truck small...can go anywhere..except drive through.
Don't give in, manual is the way to go. If you float the gears, you can shift almost as fast or even faster. Don't put your life in the hands of electronics anymore than you have to.
@@Garthinyus well my knee has bad arthritis so I prefer automatic
allison transmision is the best and is the most exspensive eaton does not compare i have alot of experience eaton auto shift has a regular clutch that is syntriphical like a snowmobile the transmision has a syntriphical clutch my compony has alot of eaton auto shifts and we have alot of failures which do not record the failures they produce detroit transmissions and volvo mack transmidssions have proven alot more reliable then eaton
Wow, your company must run some old trucks seeing how Eaton has not made a transmission with a Centrifugal clutch for over 10 years. Try running some modern equipment and then report back.
computers control all of the drivetrain functions nowadays so an automatic is more efficient. obviously a computer can't control a stick-shift.
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Check-out the Allison 4500 or 4700.
From a MACK/Volvo dealer level....we see WAY more issues with Eaton Ultra shift customer trucks when compared to I shift/M Drive transmission customers. Lots of clutch issues with Ultra shift. 1 Volvo fleet customer specs ISX with Ultrashift trans. Lots of trans issues. Over 90% of Volvo’s built are factory equipped with I shift. They are doing well on the market but more issues then a truck equipped with a manual Eaton trans and a good driver.
The only reason you buy a Volvo is that you LOVE fault codes.