*What's your take on the NTG-5? Worse? Same? Better? and YES, I know I misspelled "NORMALIZE". :) If you know the answer to my question at the end of the video (for real - not a "guess"), I'd appreciate feedback in the comments. Thanks!*
Sounding good, either way! As for switching cables with phantom power, probably best to turn it off at the mixer/recorder first, unless you have fat stacks of cash sitting at your house and no other way to spend it all other than on buying replacement mics. 🙃 In reality, I've never damaged a mic this way, but I usually remember to turn off the phantom power first, let things settle for a few seconds, and then disconnect.
Yes, really like this mic especially for the price point and all the accessories for $499 at B&H. Spending a few more seconds thinking about it, powering down when switching is a good idea, not that I would do that a lot. AND...everyone knows us RUclipsrs have fat stacks of cash laying around and we can’t spend it faster than it appears. 😂😂😂
@@BasicFilmmaker Nice review/demo. Thanks. I agree with Curtis here. I killed a mic ten years ago by crudely unplugging it from a phantom power source. Never made that mistake since! Whether plugging in or unplugging, make sure phantom power is off at the source device first. You might get away with not doing so a few times, but the day will come...... pfftz! :)
Just from listening to the samples in this video I felt that the NTG-5 has a slight high frequency lift that creates a natural air and in my opinion enhances speech intelligibility while also adding a little more production value to the raw audio. It's definitely an improvement over the NTG-3 which is more flat but may have a slight lower mid boost. Just my opinion.
When I watched the video on my cheap cellphone I thought NTG3 was better. But when I put on my Senheiser headphones - the winner was NTG5 no doubt. Thanks for the vid. One day I fried my iPad speakers when I disconnected it from sound mixer with phantom power was on. So I advise you not to joke with it)
Great comparison Kevin, the 5 as many have said has a brighter edge to it but, as for your 3, you have had it for some time... I wouldn't be surprised that its not a crispy as it was when new and has mellowed slightly. As for unplugging mic cables with phantom power, its always good practice to mute the channel its connected too, not to protect the mic but protect the speakers the signal is going too, many horns & tweeters get damaged from major pops and bangs from such instances. Adding or removing power by a switch or directly pulling a connection is more or less the same thing, but as Curtis said, you do get an over hang of phantom power so muting is always the best action along with turning phantom power off which in turn will discharge any capacitance left in the circuit within a second or two. Can you tell I watched your live stream yesterday :D
Perhaps you can do another test between the two. As others have stated the NTG5 is more neutral allowing for the higher frequencies to be heard. However, at 12 inches you were really in the "proximity effect" zone. Perhaps in the next test you can start at 18 inches and go far back as 6 feet.
The NTG3 sounds warmer than the NTG 5. The NTG5 sounds crispy and bright but both sound really clear. I work with the mixpre3 and NTG2. I was looking to for a mic that can do outside and inside dialogue for short films really well. I found my NTG 2 dose this well for my experience level, the projects I work on and my budget. My hopes are to pick up the 3 or 5 to Boost my overall production value for now until I can start fine tuning my mic selection for different situations. Thanks for the video it’s made my choice much more educated and difficult due to how well they both sound. Thank you. Pale Horse Audio Chicago IL
Thanks Pale Horse. From what I can tell, shooting outside and indoors the longer mic would be the choice. For indoors, the shorter mics seem to be a bit crisper and less noisy, although both if these mics have such a low noise floor.
Hey Kevin great video. Subscribed to you today. It's amazing how you start with one idea of a product perfectly in budget and then you see something else more expensive that would be more subtable and potentially more future proof. Eg I started my mic research with an on camera NTG direct into camera and now looking at the NTG5 with an external audio recorder. Researching audio recorders I started with a Zoom H5 and then the F6 came along with 32 bit float capability. Next in the lens dept - Sony 18-105 to the recently released Tamron 17-70 that is getting all the rave reviews. - Ahh well that's me 3 times over budget now.
@@BasicFilmmaker you can say that again. I just feel that it's easier to control high frequencies in post since they don't hog the gain like low frequencies do. Edit: Typo
True that. Really the best grab and go mic I know of as of this date. The only other way they could have blown my mind is if they added an on-board recorder. :)
Alright I've been clipping a lot (NTG5 on MixPre 3) and I have to keep my gain set to about 1.2db. If I had mine at 1.4 then I'd be clipping like heck. I'm conerned that I might have a dud but let me know what you think. I'm very surprised that I'm clipping at all on a MixPre - I've yet to experience clipping on my NTG4 or ShureSM7B
Huh. Weird. Stupid question time....phantom power is enabled? Are you in advanced mode or basic? In advanced, do you have the gain set really high in addition to the input level?
The NTG-3 definietly sounds like it favors lower frequencies, while the NTG-5 sounds like it either has less bass sensitivity, or more mid-hi sensitivity (or a little of both). And it's a pretty good bargain, considering the value-adding extras you get with an NTG-5 for a little less than just the NTG-3.
Totally agree with your assessment. I always add a slight compression on my videos (not this one) and the NTG5 then has a slight added bass to it but sounds a lot clearer. And $499 at B&H for the mic and all the accessories is a steal in my opinion.
@@wpkambiancesounds Thanks for the input. I got the 8035. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AT8035--audio-technica-at8035-shotgun-microphone. It actually just arrived this afternoon.
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Rode NTG3 sounds more like the MKH50, it’s better for voice. It’s got the mids. sounded like it had a lot more bass, the lower frequencies are better on the ntg3
Just when I was sure I was going to buy the Deity S-MIC 2S because the NTG3 was out of my price range, now Rode are taunting me with this little beauty, the NTG5, at a price I can just about stretch to. Someone please compare the two of them! This is the problem with being able to afford both - not knowing if the extra cost will be worth it. It's torture I tell ya! :o) Great video!
@@BasicFilmmaker Thanks, I was also looking for an alternative to the Deity because for some reason Deity mics are a lot more difficult to source in the UK than I expected. I am impressed by the Rode package, and any minor difference in performance for these two excellent mics probably isn't going to be a huge factor. I'm just loving that such high quality products exist and are within the reach of the wallets of peasants like me 🤑
@@BasicFilmmaker Yeah i'd love to know the rationale behind Rode pricing the NTG5 under the NTG3. If the mics sound so close and the NTG5 comes with all those accessories, why would anyone buy the NTG3? Seem to be cannibalizing their own product. Maybe because the NTG3 is heavier, it also is better in build quality and could stand up to more abuse? Thoughts on durability and how that might affect pricing?
ericsf The NTG3 is more suited to outdoor use, and has a tighter pickup pattern, whereas the NTG5 is more suited to indoor use. That being said, we're talking nuances here, and I think either mic would suit the purpose. I haven't tested the NTG5 for abuse, but I do know my NTG3 has been through hell and back and still survives. It will be interesting to see what @Curtis Judd has to say about this when he gets his review done.
Kevin - The Basic Filmmaker, thanks for going to all the trouble to produce that. I’m somewhere north of 50 and after a career as a broadcast journalist (the last 20 years as a salaried documentary producer for a weekly show) I’m buying some gear and finding out what I can actually do on my own. I need a mic that will sit atop my new Sony Z90 in the field but also something I can fix to a stand for sit down interviews, and when need be even use as a voiceover mic should I end up putting my own voice on stuff (never mind learning how to do lighting and video editing!) Can I get all of that from the NTG 5?
I checked the Z90 first and it does indeed have XLR jacks so it's perfect. As you say, you would need a stand for sit down interviews and such. It's a very clean mic, and unlike the NTG3 (my favorite) it does not add any bottom to the audio.
@@BasicFilmmaker alright thnx! I have several decent lav mics but they are all from different brands. So I'll have to fix their levels in post. Sadly I don't know how to edit that, I'm not familiar with sound settings. I did come up with one solution though. I'll use both of my rode shotgun mics (video Micro and videomic pro). I'll set up the mics on each end of the table, that way every 2 have a mic between them. They are both RODE and we will be facing them, so I'm hoping that works.
Great Review! Does your opinion on the NTG5 still hold up? Is there a better mic available for the price now? I have one and I think it's awsome. Thanks!
you should try comparing these mics to the Sennheiser MKH 416. I think you’ll like the additional brightness it gives and you will probably never use these two mics ever again after that :-)
Many go for the clean NTG5 as it doesn’t do anything with the voicing, which I can appreciate. Personally, I still grab the NTG3, as you say, it sounds warmer and more natural with my voice.
Kevin, would the NTG-5 be a good mic for interior scenes? For interior scenes, we used to use an Audio Technica AT4053B. But it suffered terrible RF interference on a recent shoot in New York City. We filmed in 7 interior locations, and in 3 of those locations, the AT4053B experienced such bad RF interference as to make the audio unusable. Thankfully we had an on-camera Rode VideoMic NTG mic as backup audio, and it did not suffer the same RF issues. It's audio saved us. We've been recommended to get a Schoeps CMC6 MK41 or Sennheiser MKH 50, but the $1,200+ price tag is very steep for us (indie productions). For exterior scenes, we have a Rode NTG3, which we love.
I LOVE my NTG-3 and wonder why you don't use it for interior scenes. Anyway, the NTG5 is like the NTG3 except crisper on the high end and less weighted on the low end. As far a RF interference ,it should be exactly the same as the NTG3, same manufacture and body design for the most part. Yes, the Schoeps CMC6 MK41 and Sennheiser MKH 50 are great but very expensive.
@@BasicFilmmaker Thanks Kevin. We didn't use the NTG3 for interior scenes as a lot of people recommended we use a hypercardioid such as the Audio-Technica AT4053B for interior scenes as they deal better with wall reflections etc. The AT4053B had been working great for interior scenes until the RF interference issues reared their head, and ruined the audio. A lesson learned... Thanks for your guidance!
NTG3 for me: lovely rich sound. Non of us know the most 'natural' we'd need to be in the room for that. N5 brightness sounded a a little coloured by room acoustics. Is that a real brick wall behind?
Yep Danny. It’s a loaded Alienware Area 51m. You can see everything I have here. Behind the Scenes Studio Tour - Nov 2019 - Basic Filmmaker ruclips.net/video/u6sRUbpckTQ/видео.html
Great video, i just have one dumb question/suggestion , how come you don’t run two cables and put each mic into into own isolated track in the Mix Pre? This way you’d be able to just read the passage once and playback each track independently?
I would get the NTG5 any day, more professional mic. BUT, if I wasn't using XLR inputs and a high-end audio recorder and money was a concern, I'd jump at the VideoMic NTG easily. They are very close, but the NTG 5 is a tad better, plus, it's a more pro mic and built much better.
So after watching this I basically see no reason for someone to get the NTG-3 at this point. The NTG-5 seems like the better option in almost every way to be honest. It's lighter, cheaper, comes with a whole kit and also just sounds better in my opinion. Am I being crazy?
@@BasicFilmmaker Damn. The end of an era I suppose. The NTG-3 was THE shotgun mic of choice for the indie guys for a long time. A great alternative to the Sennheiser 416. Will be interesting to see how far the price will go down for it now. Really makes no sense for Rode to keep selling it for a higher price than their new flagship microphone.
@@Saphir3000 I think the longer NTG-3 will still be great for outdoor sound like all longer mics, but the NTG-5 will most likely replace indoor use as a mic of choice, especially with all that it comes with and a lower price point. The Sennheiser 416 is a GREAT mic, although I think many aren't willing to dump nearly $1000 on that.
@@JamesClark1991 Yep, definitely more bass on the NTG3, but the better all-around option I think is the NTG5, which is so very close, and in my opinion, a bit crisper and cleaner. They're really close.
There is certainly a noticeable difference. The NTG-5 makes the voice sound significantly harsher and is harder to listen to. Noise floor is great on the NTG-5 though. I think it'll be a great budget option but it's certainly cheaper than the NTG-3 and 416 for a reason. A better talking test would have been to have both mics running at the same time and cutting between them. That would have lessened the variables. Your pre-amp had multiple inputs.
UnknownSpiral Yep. I wanted to take out all the variables using the same cord, same input, same everything. It would have been MUCH easier to run separate inputs into the MixPre-3, which I am going to do next time. Less of a PITA. :)
Good to know. I won't have occasion to do this a lot except for these types of reviews, but surely I can not be lazy and take the 5 seconds to turn off and on the recorder between switches. :)
@@BasicFilmmaker When I record on an interface it's really easy to turn phantom power off when switching mics. Not so much on the Mix-Pre 3; I can see how, for timing reasons, you'd prefer not to have the audio and video out of sync. I just tried, and on the Mix-Pre 3, they disable the ability to toggle phantom power while recording. Bummer. Another alternative (probably obvious to you in hindsight) would be to record both for the whole video and discard half the audio in post. I know this means different levels (even if imperceptible) and different cables, but 🤷. Almost certainly insignificant compared to everything else. I mean -- you're not positioning them in the exact same location, either.
Yep. Had that thought, but as you say, I really wanted to take all the variables out of the mix. If I were going to use both if these mics again, I would certainly just run them into separate channels and save my self a lot of time. 😁
Yep. With my voice, I still like the NTG3, but the NTG5 seems to deliver a more truer rendition of what is being recorded, and being $200 less isn’t a bad deal. I always post process my audio just a bit, so both work for me, I still find myself grabbing the NTG3.
During your silent test I did notice some hiss (very little) on the 5 but none on the 3. You mentioned that the 5 ran a little hot so that might explain it.
Glenn A. Fitzgerald Hey Glenn! That may have been my bad. I know there’s no hiss, and I think in the edit I may have left the remnant of a breath exhale. I’ll check it out, and thanks! 👍
Unfortunately it's the worst mic, I've ever owned. I owned one since January, bought the second one last week and noticed there very heavy squeaky noises. They appear randomly and sometimes aren't even audible with some speakers, but they are in the recording and they also result to clip the audio. After that, I did a bit research and found out, that the NTG-5 is especially sensitive to movement, which result in these interference. I also tried my first NTG-5 from January and with faster movement (even in the blimp, so there are no wind noises), the audio is unusable do to these interference. I hope, I can get rid of them both as fast as possible and get Sennheiser mics instead. RODE NTG-5 aren't currently in stock, so I can't even try another one to replace the defective one.
So sorry to hear about your troubles with the NTG-5. Unfortunately there are several reports online of similar QC issues with that model (probably with the RF bias circuitry), and that's why I've decided against getting one. I hope your Sennheisers are working properly for you!
*What's your take on the NTG-5? Worse? Same? Better? and YES, I know I misspelled "NORMALIZE". :) If you know the answer to my question at the end of the video (for real - not a "guess"), I'd appreciate feedback in the comments. Thanks!*
Responding to own comment to get it out of the "comments not responded to" queue. Notified RUclips, not fixed yet. :)
To my ears, and as you said. The NTG5 is slightly ‘Hotter’ than the NTG3 and it’s also slightly brighter.. 👍
Sounding good, either way! As for switching cables with phantom power, probably best to turn it off at the mixer/recorder first, unless you have fat stacks of cash sitting at your house and no other way to spend it all other than on buying replacement mics. 🙃 In reality, I've never damaged a mic this way, but I usually remember to turn off the phantom power first, let things settle for a few seconds, and then disconnect.
Yes, really like this mic especially for the price point and all the accessories for $499 at B&H. Spending a few more seconds thinking about it, powering down when switching is a good idea, not that I would do that a lot. AND...everyone knows us RUclipsrs have fat stacks of cash laying around and we can’t spend it faster than it appears. 😂😂😂
@@BasicFilmmaker Nice review/demo. Thanks. I agree with Curtis here. I killed a mic ten years ago by crudely unplugging it from a phantom power source. Never made that mistake since! Whether plugging in or unplugging, make sure phantom power is off at the source device first. You might get away with not doing so a few times, but the day will come...... pfftz! :)
Just from listening to the samples in this video I felt that the NTG-5 has a slight high frequency lift that creates a natural air and in my opinion enhances speech intelligibility while also adding a little more production value to the raw audio. It's definitely an improvement over the NTG-3 which is more flat but may have a slight lower mid boost. Just my opinion.
Agreed Ali.
I'm a big fan of the NTG5. In my review it sounded natural in horrible environments at over 10 feet overhead.
Wow! That’s saying something!!!
@@BasicFilmmaker Truth.
👍
Always turn phantom power off before you connect or disconnect a condenser mic. Ya, it's bad for the mic. Great review!
Thanks Jonny! Great to know. :)
When I watched the video on my cheap cellphone I thought NTG3 was better. But when I put on my Senheiser headphones - the winner was NTG5 no doubt. Thanks for the vid. One day I fried my iPad speakers when I disconnected it from sound mixer with phantom power was on. So I advise you not to joke with it)
Thanks!
Great comparison Kevin, the 5 as many have said has a brighter edge to it but, as for your 3, you have had it for some time... I wouldn't be surprised that its not a crispy as it was when new and has mellowed slightly. As for unplugging mic cables with phantom power, its always good practice to mute the channel its connected too, not to protect the mic but protect the speakers the signal is going too, many horns & tweeters get damaged from major pops and bangs from such instances. Adding or removing power by a switch or directly pulling a connection is more or less the same thing, but as Curtis said, you do get an over hang of phantom power so muting is always the best action along with turning phantom power off which in turn will discharge any capacitance left in the circuit within a second or two. Can you tell I watched your live stream yesterday :D
Thanks Steve. And thanks for all the info. Live stream. 😁
Enjoyed your video. Commenting here so that RUclips will love you as much as I do.
Thank you!
Thanks for this great review. I have trusted your wisdom for a long time.
Perhaps you can do another test between the two. As others have stated the NTG5 is more neutral allowing for the higher frequencies to be heard. However, at 12 inches you were really in the "proximity effect" zone. Perhaps in the next test you can start at 18 inches and go far back as 6 feet.
im looking to upgrade my shot gun mic. how would i connect the NTG5 to my Canon R5? would a simple XLR to 3.5mm adapter cable work?
wow... the NTG5 sounds sooooo clean and natural. the bass sounds real. really seems like the mic to go for.
It is a great clean mic for sure. One of my favorites.
The NTG3 sounds warmer than the NTG 5. The NTG5 sounds crispy and bright but both sound really clear. I work with the mixpre3 and NTG2. I was looking to for a mic that can do outside and inside dialogue for short films really well. I found my NTG 2 dose this well for my experience level, the projects I work on and my budget. My hopes are to pick up the 3 or 5 to Boost my overall production value for now until I can start fine tuning my mic selection for different situations. Thanks for the video it’s made my choice much more educated and difficult due to how well they both sound.
Thank you.
Pale Horse Audio
Chicago IL
Thanks Pale Horse. From what I can tell, shooting outside and indoors the longer mic would be the choice. For indoors, the shorter mics seem to be a bit crisper and less noisy, although both if these mics have such a low noise floor.
Hey Kevin great video. Subscribed to you today. It's amazing how you start with one idea of a product perfectly in budget and then you see something else more expensive that would be more subtable and potentially more future proof. Eg I started my mic research with an on camera NTG direct into camera and now looking at the NTG5 with an external audio recorder. Researching audio recorders I started with a Zoom H5 and then the F6 came along with 32 bit float capability. Next in the lens dept - Sony 18-105 to the recently released Tamron 17-70 that is getting all the rave reviews. - Ahh well that's me 3 times over budget now.
LOL! Right? I think I've spent 20 times any amount I thought reasonable.
NTG 3 owner here. I definitely prefer the sound of the NTG 5
A bit crispy for me. Mics are so personal, eh?
@@BasicFilmmaker you can say that again. I just feel that it's easier to control high frequencies in post since they don't hog the gain like low frequencies do.
Edit: Typo
Ntg5 is superb. Makes you want to just grab it and go. Brilliant design. Everything included. Must have piece of kit.
True that. Really the best grab and go mic I know of as of this date. The only other way they could have blown my mind is if they added an on-board recorder. :)
What kind of sound absorption do you use? Your room sound is so minimal
I have some sound absorption. You can see everything here: ruclips.net/video/u6sRUbpckTQ/видео.html
Alright I've been clipping a lot (NTG5 on MixPre 3) and I have to keep my gain set to about 1.2db. If I had mine at 1.4 then I'd be clipping like heck. I'm conerned that I might have a dud but let me know what you think. I'm very surprised that I'm clipping at all on a MixPre - I've yet to experience clipping on my NTG4 or ShureSM7B
Huh. Weird. Stupid question time....phantom power is enabled? Are you in advanced mode or basic? In advanced, do you have the gain set really high in addition to the input level?
The NTG-3 definietly sounds like it favors lower frequencies, while the NTG-5 sounds like it either has less bass sensitivity, or more mid-hi sensitivity (or a little of both). And it's a pretty good bargain, considering the value-adding extras you get with an NTG-5 for a little less than just the NTG-3.
Totally agree with your assessment. I always add a slight compression on my videos (not this one) and the NTG5 then has a slight added bass to it but sounds a lot clearer. And $499 at B&H for the mic and all the accessories is a steal in my opinion.
Man, I literally just ordered an Audio-Technica shotgun mic about 10 minutes ago. I hope it doesn't suck. Great video Kevin!!!
Sure it will be fine. Audio-Technica makes great mics.
Cancel your order duh
1991ClarkJames 😏
If you ordered the 875 r you are good to go, great mic. Specially for the price.
@@wpkambiancesounds Thanks for the input. I got the 8035.
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AT8035--audio-technica-at8035-shotgun-microphone. It actually just arrived this afternoon.
would the ntg5 still sound ok with a cheaper recorder? like the zoom h5?
cheers
Absolutely!
p.s. I used the NTG3 (is this is REALLY close) on a Zoom H6 for years.
It may be bad but I’ve never yet managed to damage a mic by unplugging or plugging in phantom power while it’s hot.
Me neither, but I think it’s probably a good practice, as that one time I do damage the mic, I’m going to be pretty pissed of at myself. 😁
Yeah, I’ve decided it ain’t worth it. This crap is expensive. 👍
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Rode NTG3 sounds more like the MKH50, it’s better for voice. It’s got the mids.
sounded like it had a lot more bass, the lower frequencies are better on the ntg3
NTG3 is my favorite mic.
Thank you! After some time has passed, do you still prefer the NTG5?
For my voice, I prefer the Rode NTG3 at the top, the Rode NTG5 or Deity S-Mic 2s at the middle, and the Rode VidoeMic NTG at the lower end.
@@BasicFilmmaker Love that reply.
Just when I was sure I was going to buy the Deity S-MIC 2S because the NTG3 was out of my price range, now Rode are taunting me with this little beauty, the NTG5, at a price I can just about stretch to. Someone please compare the two of them! This is the problem with being able to afford both - not knowing if the extra cost will be worth it. It's torture I tell ya! :o) Great video!
They are comparable, the Rode has a 10 year warranty, and you get a bit ire stuff with it. You’re not going to go wrong with either of them. 👍
@@BasicFilmmaker Thanks, I was also looking for an alternative to the Deity because for some reason Deity mics are a lot more difficult to source in the UK than I expected. I am impressed by the Rode package, and any minor difference in performance for these two excellent mics probably isn't going to be a huge factor. I'm just loving that such high quality products exist and are within the reach of the wallets of peasants like me 🤑
Nick Gisburne Since Rode has never dropped the price of the NTG3 for years, it surprises me that they offer the NTG5 at this price.
@@BasicFilmmaker Yeah i'd love to know the rationale behind Rode pricing the NTG5 under the NTG3. If the mics sound so close and the NTG5 comes with all those accessories, why would anyone buy the NTG3? Seem to be cannibalizing their own product. Maybe because the NTG3 is heavier, it also is better in build quality and could stand up to more abuse? Thoughts on durability and how that might affect pricing?
ericsf The NTG3 is more suited to outdoor use, and has a tighter pickup pattern, whereas the NTG5 is more suited to indoor use. That being said, we're talking nuances here, and I think either mic would suit the purpose. I haven't tested the NTG5 for abuse, but I do know my NTG3 has been through hell and back and still survives. It will be interesting to see what @Curtis Judd has to say about this when he gets his review done.
My Buddy I love this guy and his videos I just hope one day I could get gear like yours if I win the lottery
LOL! It took MANY years to build this up. 😁
can you use it to as a mic to record short film outside?
Absolutely. Any good shotgun mic. I would suggest a blimp covering for outside. You’ll need some boom op skills.
Kevin - The Basic Filmmaker, thanks for going to all the trouble to produce that. I’m somewhere north of 50 and after a career as a broadcast journalist (the last 20 years as a salaried documentary producer for a weekly show) I’m buying some gear and finding out what I can actually do on my own. I need a mic that will sit atop my new Sony Z90 in the field but also something I can fix to a stand for sit down interviews, and when need be even use as a voiceover mic should I end up putting my own voice on stuff (never mind learning how to do lighting and video editing!)
Can I get all of that from the NTG 5?
I checked the Z90 first and it does indeed have XLR jacks so it's perfect. As you say, you would need a stand for sit down interviews and such. It's a very clean mic, and unlike the NTG3 (my favorite) it does not add any bottom to the audio.
Ur so close to 100k!!!!
😁😁😁
How about a comparison with the Deity mic? Thanks!
I can do that, but I’ll wait to see what my buddy Curtis Judd does first. 😁
@@BasicFilmmaker "Sounds great"! he's awesome
That he is. 👍
can a boom mic like these be effective to capture audio from 4 people sitting on a table having a conversation ? or should i stick to lav mics
They are VERY directional. I'd stick with lav mics, or have dynamic mics for each person.
@@BasicFilmmaker alright thnx! I have several decent lav mics but they are all from different brands. So I'll have to fix their levels in post. Sadly I don't know how to edit that, I'm not familiar with sound settings. I did come up with one solution though. I'll use both of my rode shotgun mics (video Micro and videomic pro). I'll set up the mics on each end of the table, that way every 2 have a mic between them. They are both RODE and we will be facing them, so I'm hoping that works.
Great Review! Does your opinion on the NTG5 still hold up? Is there a better mic available for the price now? I have one and I think it's awsome. Thanks!
Nope. For me it would be this or the more expensive NTG3 which I use and love.
@@BasicFilmmaker Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it!
you should try comparing these mics to the Sennheiser MKH 416. I think you’ll like the additional brightness it gives and you will probably never use these two mics ever again after that :-)
Maybe a dumb question, but is the NTG-5 a worthy upgrade from the NTG-2?
I think so. Nothing wrong with the ntg2, just remember the ntg5 needs power, no battery.
The five sounds s bit tighter? to me. Maybe the shorter pipe makes for a little less phasing. Great review.
Thanks Conrad. I agree, and will be using it from now on.
I think this will be my next investment. Sounds fantastic.
I’m loving it.
hello sir - would you know what is the difference between NTG3 vs NTG3B? I'm sure the "B" means black but it is $100 cheaper.
Well thanks, looks like you saved me some money. It's the 5 for me.
Great!!
What is that other mic you mentioned and how much is it. I am looking for a good mic that doesn't break the bank
Links to everything are in the video description. I was referring to the DEITY V-MIC D3 PRO
at $199 bhpho.to/2MVMonu
Unpopular take: NTG 5 is just the NTG 4+ with HF boost and accessories.
NTG 3 sounds warmer and more natural.
(listening on Superlux HD558B)
Many go for the clean NTG5 as it doesn’t do anything with the voicing, which I can appreciate. Personally, I still grab the NTG3, as you say, it sounds warmer and more natural with my voice.
Kevin, would the NTG-5 be a good mic for interior scenes? For interior scenes, we used to use an Audio Technica AT4053B. But it suffered terrible RF interference on a recent shoot in New York City. We filmed in 7 interior locations, and in 3 of those locations, the AT4053B experienced such bad RF interference as to make the audio unusable. Thankfully we had an on-camera Rode VideoMic NTG mic as backup audio, and it did not suffer the same RF issues. It's audio saved us. We've been recommended to get a Schoeps CMC6 MK41 or Sennheiser MKH 50, but the $1,200+ price tag is very steep for us (indie productions). For exterior scenes, we have a Rode NTG3, which we love.
I LOVE my NTG-3 and wonder why you don't use it for interior scenes. Anyway, the NTG5 is like the NTG3 except crisper on the high end and less weighted on the low end. As far a RF interference ,it should be exactly the same as the NTG3, same manufacture and body design for the most part. Yes, the Schoeps CMC6 MK41 and Sennheiser MKH 50 are great but very expensive.
@@BasicFilmmaker Thanks Kevin. We didn't use the NTG3 for interior scenes as a lot of people recommended we use a hypercardioid such as the Audio-Technica AT4053B for interior scenes as they deal better with wall reflections etc. The AT4053B had been working great for interior scenes until the RF interference issues reared their head, and ruined the audio. A lesson learned... Thanks for your guidance!
@@paulfairchild8942 Have you checked into the Deity S-Mc 2s
@@BasicFilmmaker I'll check it out, thanks Kevin.
@@paulfairchild8942 Anytime sir.
NTG3 for me: lovely rich sound. Non of us know the most 'natural' we'd need to be in the room for that. N5 brightness sounded a a little coloured by room acoustics. Is that a real brick wall behind?
Hey Kevin I know this is off topic but I was wondering if you would tell me what kind of computer you use for your editing?
Yep Danny. It’s a loaded Alienware Area 51m. You can see everything I have here. Behind the Scenes Studio Tour - Nov 2019 - Basic Filmmaker ruclips.net/video/u6sRUbpckTQ/видео.html
Sounds great.
I think so. Now if i could only go to Amazon and get a prime deal on your voice. 😁
Kevin - The Basic Filmmaker : Haha :)
That wasn't a joke. I want it. Prime. Next day shipping. 😂😂😂
Kevin - The Basic Filmmaker : Whenever you need/want a voiceover of something just let me know
@@WORTHITORNOT I may actually take you up on that one day.
Nice comparison, what kind of acoustics does the room you recorded in have? Is it a reverberant room?
Slightly. The floor has carpet. Definitely not like my kitchen or living room with wood floors.
Great video, i just have one dumb question/suggestion , how come you don’t run two cables and put each mic into into own isolated track in the Mix Pre? This way you’d be able to just read the passage once and playback each track independently?
Certainly could have done that - dunno why I didn't. :)
6:33 😰 you make me feel uneasy sir
Yep. Bad idea to do that. Thanks!
♡ Love it Very Sturdy.
Great comparison sir! Since you’re using Mixpre-3, what was your gain sets at?
I mistakenly said in the video it was 1.4. Actually, it was channel one at 4.
I really like the more natural sound of the NTG3.
Thanks! This was really a tough one for me as they are so close.
@@BasicFilmmaker To they where not that close at all. But that's just from listening to your video.
Good ears you have.
Yes, that’s bad. Great comparison video, though. I just bought my NTG5!
Into the right recorder I think you'll love it.
Dang, I was set on the ntg3 but this changed my mind.
I can clearly hear the difference without looking. I prefer the 5.
Yep. Pretty good mic.
Have you had a chance to compare it with the VideoMic NTG?
I would get the NTG5 any day, more professional mic. BUT, if I wasn't using XLR inputs and a high-end audio recorder and money was a concern, I'd jump at the VideoMic NTG easily. They are very close, but the NTG 5 is a tad better, plus, it's a more pro mic and built much better.
So after watching this I basically see no reason for someone to get the NTG-3 at this point. The NTG-5 seems like the better option in almost every way to be honest. It's lighter, cheaper, comes with a whole kit and also just sounds better in my opinion. Am I being crazy?
That’s really the conclusion I also came to. 👍
@@BasicFilmmaker Damn. The end of an era I suppose. The NTG-3 was THE shotgun mic of choice for the indie guys for a long time. A great alternative to the Sennheiser 416. Will be interesting to see how far the price will go down for it now. Really makes no sense for Rode to keep selling it for a higher price than their new flagship microphone.
@@Saphir3000 I think the longer NTG-3 will still be great for outdoor sound like all longer mics, but the NTG-5 will most likely replace indoor use as a mic of choice, especially with all that it comes with and a lower price point. The Sennheiser 416 is a GREAT mic, although I think many aren't willing to dump nearly $1000 on that.
Unless you want more bass. The NTG-5 seems like the all round better option.
@@JamesClark1991 Yep, definitely more bass on the NTG3, but the better all-around option I think is the NTG5, which is so very close, and in my opinion, a bit crisper and cleaner. They're really close.
There must be that secret NTG7 near around (9:21) that you accidentally blabbed about )))
LOL! Yep. Still after that perfect video! 😁
There is certainly a noticeable difference. The NTG-5 makes the voice sound significantly harsher and is harder to listen to. Noise floor is great on the NTG-5 though. I think it'll be a great budget option but it's certainly cheaper than the NTG-3 and 416 for a reason.
A better talking test would have been to have both mics running at the same time and cutting between them. That would have lessened the variables. Your pre-amp had multiple inputs.
UnknownSpiral Yep. I wanted to take out all the variables using the same cord, same input, same everything. It would have been MUCH easier to run separate inputs into the MixPre-3, which I am going to do next time. Less of a PITA. :)
5 sounds better too me. The 3 sounds slightly muffled.
It does a bit.
Yeah, you're not supposed to pull or plug "hot" jacks..... that said, I do it all the time accidentally and haven't ruined anything, yet.
Good to know. I won't have occasion to do this a lot except for these types of reviews, but surely I can not be lazy and take the 5 seconds to turn off and on the recorder between switches. :)
@@BasicFilmmaker When I record on an interface it's really easy to turn phantom power off when switching mics. Not so much on the Mix-Pre 3; I can see how, for timing reasons, you'd prefer not to have the audio and video out of sync. I just tried, and on the Mix-Pre 3, they disable the ability to toggle phantom power while recording. Bummer. Another alternative (probably obvious to you in hindsight) would be to record both for the whole video and discard half the audio in post. I know this means different levels (even if imperceptible) and different cables, but 🤷. Almost certainly insignificant compared to everything else. I mean -- you're not positioning them in the exact same location, either.
Yep. Had that thought, but as you say, I really wanted to take all the variables out of the mix. If I were going to use both if these mics again, I would certainly just run them into separate channels and save my self a lot of time. 😁
The Older NTG3 is slightly Warmer .
Yep. With my voice, I still like the NTG3, but the NTG5 seems to deliver a more truer rendition of what is being recorded, and being $200 less isn’t a bad deal. I always post process my audio just a bit, so both work for me, I still find myself grabbing the NTG3.
4:42 - Cya! I'm outta here :D
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NTG-5 nice price at B&H $499.00
Pretty good, huh? I was surprised at the price with all the goodies included. They aren’t extra crap, they’re good additions.
During your silent test I did notice some hiss (very little) on the 5 but none on the 3. You mentioned that the 5 ran a little hot so that might explain it.
Glenn A. Fitzgerald Hey Glenn! That may have been my bad. I know there’s no hiss, and I think in the edit I may have left the remnant of a breath exhale. I’ll check it out, and thanks! 👍
but can you back-over it with your car??? 🤔
That I don’t know, and therefore, unwilling to try it. 😂
I'm not a 'pro' but, I think it is better to turn off the phantom power before mic removal. I think those Rodes sound pretty similar !
I agree, so close. And yeah, I’m thinking turning off power might be the safe bet!
Unfortunately it's the worst mic, I've ever owned.
I owned one since January, bought the second one last week and noticed there very heavy squeaky noises. They appear randomly and sometimes aren't even audible with some speakers, but they are in the recording and they also result to clip the audio.
After that, I did a bit research and found out, that the NTG-5 is especially sensitive to movement, which result in these interference.
I also tried my first NTG-5 from January and with faster movement (even in the blimp, so there are no wind noises), the audio is unusable do to these interference.
I hope, I can get rid of them both as fast as possible and get Sennheiser mics instead.
RODE NTG-5 aren't currently in stock, so I can't even try another one to replace the defective one.
That's definitely a strange one - not seen it myself. Let @RODE know for sure.
@@BasicFilmmaker I replaced them with two MKH 416. Rode NTG-5 wasn’t available in any store for the whole month.
So sorry to hear about your troubles with the NTG-5. Unfortunately there are several reports online of similar QC issues with that model (probably with the RF bias circuitry), and that's why I've decided against getting one. I hope your Sennheisers are working properly for you!
@@UltrafiAV both MKH416 work seamlessly
They both sound the same to me. Except one is double the price of the other.
Cool. Always get the mic that sounds better to you and fits your budget.
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