Hope this one gets through, as mexico at that time was quite the intresting nation politically speaking. There are multiple ways he could've done better, so we shall see how stakuyi shall interpret this.
I feel like this would end up like Iran, with a revolution against the decadence and exploitation from French industry. The US wouldn't mind interfering even if it was counter productive to democratic values.
Attempt 18: (Using the Great War Redux again) What if Italy honored the Triple Alliance and eventually joined the Central Powers when WWI comes around?
But he was putins puppet, and was content with that, he played "liberal democrat" for a short whil, but everyone knew he was as much president as putin allowed him
In order for that to happen, the Soviet Union would have to not invade Poland. Poland would also have to be more prepared or Germany would have to be less prepared.
Yeah, if Germany stalls in Poland between the 2 weeks the Soviets joined in our timeline, the Soviets might not invade. And of course like you said, Poland must be more prepared.
I think the most likely way this could happen is that Molotov-Ribbentrop was rejected by the Soviets, and Germany goes in anyway. Hitler was scared of what Stalin would do when Germany attacked Poland, so the treaty was made. I could be wrong about it, but I don't know if there is an event for the Soviets where if Germany goes in without Molotov-Ribbentrop, The Soviets get an event to stop Germany's advance. Let me know if I am right or wrong, cause I saw it I think once, from a Bokoen video, and the game was modded.
Love your work mate. The former video editor in me noticed a couple missed edits at 9:30 and 31:59 but I'm constantly impressed with your ability to record and edit such long videos to almost perfection. Well done🤙
I have thought this could happen Either by chamberlain’s proposal having no possible way to be deceit/ the Germans just doing what chamberlain wanted and also rejecting the traditional procedures of old diplomacy in the first meeting about it, or by Britain realising what the German proposal actually meant, Von Eckardstein not misleading both parties, and Chamberlain not making the English position seem weak and for both parties to stop over-analysing each other’s proposals. However it would probably be a hassle in HOI now that I think of it.
Hitler did talk about wanting war with the US in his second book written but not published, so after taking out the Soviets, I think him declaring in the US isn’t that unrealistic. This is Hitler we are talking about.
@@anthonyjamesdavila5359 being a fascist doesn't mean anti-semitic. until 1935, italy had a jewish minister of finance and he was described as a dedicated italian fascist. literally all of the anti-jew sentiment stems from germany who were not fascist, they were national socialist.
@@moodycxnt National-Socialism and Fascism's relation is like an orangutan and a gorilla, both are primates but they have bastly differences between them to not call them "the same". They share the 3rd position, anti-communism and anti-liberalism, nationalism, paramilitary groups, the salute, and other things. But they differ in elements like race, Mussolini thinking it has no factual value in a discussion (Like Primo de Rivera's Falangism), corporativism and the limited collaboration with private industries, religion, filosofy and many others. Its a very interesting topic to see the differences in the variations and branches of fascism in the 20th century, I recommend you authors like Stanley Payne to search deeper.
i think in fact it's more believable that in case of a British non-involvement in WWII, the French would have been harder to push for the Germans why some would ask then, wouldn't that mean no BEF and no RAF in northern France? absolutely, yes, but that's precisely because of that in otl, the French engaged the Dyle-Breda manoeuvre, an extension of the Dyle plan, had the French 7th army positioned on the left of the allied line, to jump into the Netherlands, without effective British involvement, the French likely wouldn't be as optimistic of their capabilities, thus stick purely to the initial Dyle plan, which changes one big thing: the French 7th army is positioned in a central position, right next to the French Ardennes, the 7th army was probably the most modern and better equipped large formation in the French army, and positioned so close could have been able to counteract the German advance near Sedan, which if effective would have effectively crushed the German hope of a quick victory in France since now the only way for the Panzer Divisons to roll through the French lines would have to butt heads with entrenched French infantry and artillery, while they have a whole army worth of mobile divisions free to oppose any German breakthroughs. in short, the western front would turn into a war of attrition, which is not to the advantage of the Germans, in any scenario. on top of that, it's actually not a given that a Fascist Britain would not oppose Nazi Germany's expansion, they had a vested interest in the balance of powers in Europe, and letting Germany roam freely would just completely break that balance of power as there would be a massive continental power, with the ability, free of concurrence, to challenge Britain's hegemony over the seas
Can we do a cold war one? Like what if Hungary revolted against the Soviet Union but actually succeded the first time with US help (as they promised historically but never did)
20:20 Without France intervening in Poland Germany absolutely WOULD NOT have invaded west. He outlined very specifically in Mein Kampf that he would be willing to give up claims on Alsace Lorraine and in the Benelux and to the South of Austria if it meant they left Germany alone in its expansion eastward. In this timeline you would just get an early Barbarossa and a relatively peaceful Western Europe.
The interviews with Mosley in the 70’s or late 60’s I can’t recall, are quite fascinating. I don’t know much if anything about the guy but he definitely never changed his stance even in old age, he certainly seemed more fascist than nazi esc but not exactly like Mussolini’s regime either.
Great video!! Quick question: would Mosley want more control over the Middle East? I don't know of the former Ottoman holdings were thought of as part of the British Empire during Mosley's time. I could see maybe reclamation/expansion wars in that area, but I don't know.
What if Italy made their own faction in WWII. They had a lot of issues with both sides and briefly tried to gain allies in the Balkans and some other Mediterranean countries.
What if the soviets tried to invade the Germans in 1941 or 42 and maybe the Germans pushed Barbarossa 1 year and the soviets took a more anti-fascist approach to the Germans There is an anti fascist diplomatic path in the Comintern part of the focus tree
coming in at the 12 minute mark, while it probably wouldn't be fitting for a 'what if' the best way to the secure the dominions is a mixture of your manpower & troops and taking their devisions and splitting them to each needed area to fulfill the requirement. Its a long process but once set up (you dont even need to unpause) and the forces reach their location you can immediately secure the dominions. This is often done before the focus for securing the dominions is done. In the grand scheme of things losing the Raj is not a big deal, while in the context of the time that would be a resource crisis given the amount britian extracts from india. But it could be reminded with mosely choosing to push towards the reclaimation of america, and uniting it with canada. Which while yes goes against his promises of peace to a degree, could be viewed as a 'uniting the anglosphere' and helping secure the commonwealth's people. From there, the possibility of the imperial federation could come into picture but that wouldn't be a quick process. Mostly due to staunch resistance from america. but even if america remains out of the picture more development in the african colonies would make logical sense. Given how rich the region is (I really dont like that its resource richness isn't really shown in hoi4, and I imagine the main reason why is so britian & france are force to trade for some resources.)
34:45 Across the Bering Strait..? Its a very small trip by sea. So as long as they could launch a fleet from eastern russia, they could land troops in Alaska and establish a beachhead. Not easy, but possible now, following the collapse of the soviets. Its probably how the AI was programmed, with priority targets for war, once one was done, it moves on to the next; Poland -> France -> and so on and so on, until -> Soviet Union -> USA.
sweden joined the comintern because since you denied ethiopian exile, they are the next in line of ethipia options, so they always get them instead of you
I know, this may not seem like a very interesting alternate history scenario. but I'm curious how it would play out. what if Turkey brought back the ottoman sultanate.
What if Japan managed to create an idealistic Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere. Like being first among equals and ousting the other colonial powers. Might not be possible with a 1936 start but require mods or Vicky 3.
What if the German Empire Supported the Dutch Boer's during the second Boer war by delcaring war on England at some point in early 1900?? (Victoria 2/3) (Plot the German Empire is outraged at Britain for keeping their Germanic brothers and sisters in such Abhorrent concentration camps and thus in retaliation they delcare war on England in hopes said decleration would force britain to withdraw some of her forces from south Africa to defend the home island.)
I go fascist everytime I do the UK and everytime I have the USA, France, lowlands, and the UK’s puppets annexed by 1939 at the very least (if you’re lucky you can annex a few countries in South America if the USA forms a faction)
how is this even possible lmao? i'm assuming you just cheese the game somehow because a lot of paths, including the fascist uk path, are so agonizingly slow.
What if Iran modernized like Japan had, and joined the Axis?
What if maximilian the first succeeded as a liberal emperor of Mexico and successfully reformed the nation.
Hope this one gets through, as mexico at that time was quite the intresting nation politically speaking. There are multiple ways he could've done better, so we shall see how stakuyi shall interpret this.
I feel like this would end up like Iran, with a revolution against the decadence and exploitation from French industry. The US wouldn't mind interfering even if it was counter productive to democratic values.
I'm guessing Stakuyi would have to play that one mod that starts in the mid 19th century in order to do this one.
@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 Or, y'know, any of the three whole-ass games that take place in that time period...
what if japan never attacked pearl Harbor
for that to happen that would require the united states not absolutely screwing them over and blocking trade
He's technically already done that scenario in another video. "What if Japan hadn't joined the Axis".
what if America attacked Pearl harbour
for some reason
It's very hard to do this because it's coded into the game that pearl harbor happens.......I wish it was a decision instead of that
@@joseph32323what if pearl harbor attacked america
What if Korea successfully rebelled against the Japanese before WWII and won independence before the war
What if Italy never under no circumstances joined the Axis or Allied powers (They did what Franco Did in Spain and stayed neutral.)
Attempt 18: (Using the Great War Redux again) What if Italy honored the Triple Alliance and eventually joined the Central Powers when WWI comes around?
Getting snubbed once again.
What if Dmitry Medvedev turned Russia into a Liberal Democracy during his presidency? (Millenium Dawn)
But he was putins puppet, and was content with that, he played "liberal democrat" for a short whil, but everyone knew he was as much president as putin allowed him
Oof, diving deep into fantasy here. :p
what if austria was against anchluss
Ya
they were historically
@@usernametaken8968well it depends. The leader of the country was against it but majority of the Austrian population supported it.
The best way for Austria to not get annexed would be if the allies or Italy keep up their guarantees and form some sort of stresa front
What if Germany failed to invade Poland?
This one is on the poll. I want this.
In order for that to happen, the Soviet Union would have to not invade Poland. Poland would also have to be more prepared or Germany would have to be less prepared.
Yeah, if Germany stalls in Poland between the 2 weeks the Soviets joined in our timeline, the Soviets might not invade. And of course like you said, Poland must be more prepared.
I think the most likely way this could happen is that Molotov-Ribbentrop was rejected by the Soviets, and Germany goes in anyway. Hitler was scared of what Stalin would do when Germany attacked Poland, so the treaty was made.
I could be wrong about it, but I don't know if there is an event for the Soviets where if Germany goes in without Molotov-Ribbentrop, The Soviets get an event to stop Germany's advance.
Let me know if I am right or wrong, cause I saw it I think once, from a Bokoen video, and the game was modded.
What is Germany made peace with the Allies before invading the Soviet Union?
I always picture Mosely screaming "DIRECT RULE FROM LONDON!" like Mr. Crocker from Fairly Oddparents.
what if someone loved me?
🥲
That's not posible even in a what if
There will be one less elephant in the wild.
this is just sad
Ah! A Science Fiction scenario!!!
What if Austria won the Austro-Prussian war using End of a New Beginning?
What if all the Nordic nations (Finland Norway Sweden Denmark) Stood together against Germany and the Soviets.
Finally, the scenario i’ve wanted for months is here!
Also, What if Nixon won 1960?
What if the soviets won the polish-soviet war?
Poland would be annexed or a puppet, the Soviets wanted to return to those Russian empire borders
What if crowns of Etheopia and Japan united (based on an actual historical proposal)
Love your work mate. The former video editor in me noticed a couple missed edits at 9:30 and 31:59 but I'm constantly impressed with your ability to record and edit such long videos to almost perfection. Well done🤙
Idea: What if Republican Spain (somehow) won the Spanish civil war and declared war on Germany at the start of operation Barbarossa
What if chamberlain senior succeeded in his attempt to form an alliance between Britain and Germany.
I have thought this could happen Either by chamberlain’s proposal having no possible way to be deceit/ the Germans just doing what chamberlain wanted and also rejecting the traditional procedures of old diplomacy in the first meeting about it, or by Britain realising what the German proposal actually meant, Von Eckardstein not misleading both parties, and Chamberlain not making the English position seem weak and for both parties to stop over-analysing each other’s proposals. However it would probably be a hassle in HOI now that I think of it.
The coming storm would probably be best but I don’t think at the moment it’s fit - focus tree wise
Hitler did talk about wanting war with the US in his second book written but not published, so after taking out the Soviets, I think him declaring in the US isn’t that unrealistic. This is Hitler we are talking about.
6:06 fun fact mosley hired a Jewish boxer to train his blackshirts
Irony level 100
@@anthonyjamesdavila5359 being a fascist doesn't mean anti-semitic. until 1935, italy had a jewish minister of finance and he was described as a dedicated italian fascist. literally all of the anti-jew sentiment stems from germany who were not fascist, they were national socialist.
@@cr1tikal_archave we entered the world phase where Nazism has been rewritten as a nonfascist movement?
@@cr1tikal_arc have we entered the world phase where for some reason 30s and 40s Germany is now considered not fascist?
@@moodycxnt National-Socialism and Fascism's relation is like an orangutan and a gorilla, both are primates but they have bastly differences between them to not call them "the same".
They share the 3rd position, anti-communism and anti-liberalism, nationalism, paramilitary groups, the salute, and other things. But they differ in elements like race, Mussolini thinking it has no factual value in a discussion (Like Primo de Rivera's Falangism), corporativism and the limited collaboration with private industries, religion, filosofy and many others.
Its a very interesting topic to see the differences in the variations and branches of fascism in the 20th century, I recommend you authors like Stanley Payne to search deeper.
What if Mengkukuo went democratic?
Dumbaas suggestion, ruined my day
What IF, Portugal never did the 1939 friendship pact?
What if Germany allowed the USSR into the axis?
What if the anglosphere federation (or CANZUK) formed post-Brexit? (Gonna need millenium dawn for this one I believe)
i think in fact it's more believable that in case of a British non-involvement in WWII, the French would have been harder to push for the Germans
why some would ask then, wouldn't that mean no BEF and no RAF in northern France? absolutely, yes, but that's precisely because of that
in otl, the French engaged the Dyle-Breda manoeuvre, an extension of the Dyle plan, had the French 7th army positioned on the left of the allied line, to jump into the Netherlands, without effective British involvement, the French likely wouldn't be as optimistic of their capabilities, thus stick purely to the initial Dyle plan, which changes one big thing: the French 7th army is positioned in a central position, right next to the French Ardennes, the 7th army was probably the most modern and better equipped large formation in the French army, and positioned so close could have been able to counteract the German advance near Sedan, which if effective would have effectively crushed the German hope of a quick victory in France since now the only way for the Panzer Divisons to roll through the French lines would have to butt heads with entrenched French infantry and artillery, while they have a whole army worth of mobile divisions free to oppose any German breakthroughs. in short, the western front would turn into a war of attrition, which is not to the advantage of the Germans, in any scenario.
on top of that, it's actually not a given that a Fascist Britain would not oppose Nazi Germany's expansion, they had a vested interest in the balance of powers in Europe, and letting Germany roam freely would just completely break that balance of power as there would be a massive continental power, with the ability, free of concurrence, to challenge Britain's hegemony over the seas
Can we do a cold war one? Like what if Hungary revolted against the Soviet Union but actually succeded the first time with US help (as they promised historically but never did)
Mosely would have built a fleet of Mosely-class super-mega-battleships to transport him around on his world speaking tour. :)
What if USSR was less incompetent early on with war in Finland.
What if the Allies had taken the idea of a German offensive through the Ardennes seriously?
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What if Sweden won the great northern war
To that happen he has to get the empire mod
What if Poland wasn’t taken under the iron curtain and tired to rebuild the commonwealth
20:20
Without France intervening in Poland Germany absolutely WOULD NOT have invaded west. He outlined very specifically in Mein Kampf that he would be willing to give up claims on Alsace Lorraine and in the Benelux and to the South of Austria if it meant they left Germany alone in its expansion eastward. In this timeline you would just get an early Barbarossa and a relatively peaceful Western Europe.
This is a popular Alt History. What if America didn't get involved in WW1. Curious as to your assessment of that.
Verify your clock Stakuyi, the time is near
What if Germany fell into civil war resulting in Sparticus Germany in 1936-38
Finally someone upload this path
Tanks you
17:07 You could call it a police action, or a special military operation.
"Peace keeping"
what if Japan bypassed the philipines
The interviews with Mosley in the 70’s or late 60’s I can’t recall, are quite fascinating. I don’t know much if anything about the guy but he definitely never changed his stance even in old age, he certainly seemed more fascist than nazi esc but not exactly like Mussolini’s regime either.
what if sweden joined the war effort?
Great video!! Quick question: would Mosley want more control over the Middle East? I don't know of the former Ottoman holdings were thought of as part of the British Empire during Mosley's time. I could see maybe reclamation/expansion wars in that area, but I don't know.
What if Italy made their own faction in WWII. They had a lot of issues with both sides and briefly tried to gain allies in the Balkans and some other Mediterranean countries.
What if Germany didn't go through Belgium in WW1?
What if business plot
What if the Willy-Nicky Telegrams worked? (What if Russia joined the Central Powers or what if WW1 was avoided)
What if America Allied with the Soviets and their ideology to fight fascism rather than the Allies?
What if the soviets tried to invade the Germans in 1941 or 42 and maybe the Germans pushed Barbarossa 1 year and the soviets took a more anti-fascist approach to the Germans
There is an anti fascist diplomatic path in the Comintern part of the focus tree
What if Turkey had joined the Axis.
Darth Mosely! Lol!! Next question - What if there was no appeasement?
What if the US was fully isolationist and didn’t do anything to interfere with Japanese and German expansionism.
what if canada went social credit
The tab for the customization is on the bottom right side right below the airdrop raid symbol. it took me a hot minute to find it myself
What if the Orleanists was restored in France?
What if stakuyi knew how to spell fascist?
What if USA stayed neutral? (No troops on the ground)
I want you to do the "make america great again" mod and choose molossia, then immediately check generals, please, it wont disappoint.
coming in at the 12 minute mark, while it probably wouldn't be fitting for a 'what if' the best way to the secure the dominions is a mixture of your manpower & troops and taking their devisions and splitting them to each needed area to fulfill the requirement. Its a long process but once set up (you dont even need to unpause) and the forces reach their location you can immediately secure the dominions.
This is often done before the focus for securing the dominions is done.
In the grand scheme of things losing the Raj is not a big deal, while in the context of the time that would be a resource crisis given the amount britian extracts from india.
But it could be reminded with mosely choosing to push towards the reclaimation of america, and uniting it with canada.
Which while yes goes against his promises of peace to a degree, could be viewed as a 'uniting the anglosphere' and helping secure the commonwealth's people.
From there, the possibility of the imperial federation could come into picture but that wouldn't be a quick process. Mostly due to staunch resistance from america.
but even if america remains out of the picture more development in the african colonies would make logical sense.
Given how rich the region is (I really dont like that its resource richness isn't really shown in hoi4, and I imagine the main reason why is so britian & france are force to trade for some resources.)
What if the Ottomans won the 1st Balkan war? (Great War Redux)
34:15 because thats part of their focus tree
What if Japan decisively won the battle of Midway
34:45
Across the Bering Strait..?
Its a very small trip by sea. So as long as they could launch a fleet from eastern russia, they could land troops in Alaska and establish a beachhead.
Not easy, but possible now, following the collapse of the soviets.
Its probably how the AI was programmed, with priority targets for war, once one was done, it moves on to the next;
Poland -> France -> and so on and so on, until -> Soviet Union -> USA.
what if Austria restored the HRE or Germany restored the HRE
What if japan achieved its goals with pearl harbor (pushing the us out of the pacific)
"Facism" is my favrite idology in Herts of Irn Fur.
sweden joined the comintern because since you denied ethiopian exile, they are the next in line of ethipia options, so they always get them instead of you
Fascist* typo in thumbnail.
I know, this may not seem like a very interesting alternate history scenario. but I'm curious how it would play out. what if Turkey brought back the ottoman sultanate.
9:22 very subtle
What if Treaty of Trianon never happened, and hungary gained independence with the old borders.
What if Mexico joined the Central Powers and joined in The Great War.
What if King Edward never abdicated the British throne
What if Britain stayed out of ww1 just betrayed the Belgians on their promise
How about a video about “what if Argentina become facist”? That would be intresting
I went back to the US tree and I'm a bit disappointed, like it feels so small and/or simple for what a country like the US should have
1:54 things you wish you never hear in your life...
What if Portugal had, instead of siding with the Nationalists like in our Timeline, had sided with both the Carlists and the Anarchists?
What if Italy and France continued to support Austrian independence even after the UK left
(Video 32) What if the United Arab Republic was a success? (Egypt/Cold War mod)
What if czechoslovakia refused the sudetenland?
What if Japan managed to create an idealistic Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere. Like being first among equals and ousting the other colonial powers. Might not be possible with a 1936 start but require mods or Vicky 3.
Suggestion: what if Australia managed to fight in the battle of Okinawa?
What if the German Empire Supported the Dutch Boer's during the second Boer war by delcaring war on England at some point in early 1900?? (Victoria 2/3) (Plot the German Empire is outraged at Britain for keeping their Germanic brothers and sisters in such Abhorrent concentration camps and thus in retaliation they delcare war on England in hopes said decleration would force britain to withdraw some of her forces from south Africa to defend the home island.)
Why does Mosley look like the main villian in assassin’s creed syndicate
I go fascist everytime I do the UK and everytime I have the USA, France, lowlands, and the UK’s puppets annexed by 1939 at the very least (if you’re lucky you can annex a few countries in South America if the USA forms a faction)
how is this even possible lmao? i'm assuming you just cheese the game somehow because a lot of paths, including the fascist uk path, are so agonizingly slow.
What If Mustache-man had to flee germany after army tooks arms against him
Hell yeah another video!
What if Adolf got accepted into Art school
"What if a kid ruled the UK"
The Japanese can never catch a break lol.
What if Germany had honoured Belgian neutrality and not invaded during WW1? (Great War Redux)
what if germany never broke the molotov ribbentrop pact and focused on the allies?
What if China joined the Axis instead of Japan? Gotterdamerung added that recently in the Germany tree
What if the Netherlands participated in WWI?
I've been waiting for Facsit UK fooorrr so long and it's such a long video that I can't finish it because I got work tomorrow TwT
What if Liechtenstein took over Austria and bought Alaska in the 40’s
do a france what if video next time
its been a while
What if Germany became Communist in 1936