"He owes us the remainder" Was Swain supposed to die in Ionia, but then made a deal with Raum so he could cheat death? And the second story is so obviously about Swain! "What was given? A hand to rule with."
It's said in Swain's lore that he basically made a reverse Faustian Bargain with Raum. Instead of making a sacrifice (like his soul or some shit), Swain tricked Raum and gained dominance over his power. I wonder if the quotes we've just seen hint at what happened there. Very interesting.
Death works like Urban Legends in Runeterra. Stories being made(A man being split in half), creation from the story(Mask Mother), then the stories will be forgotten(Fading Icon). Then the cycle continues, even the Lamb acknowledge her own soon inevitable demise, being forgotten.
About the story of the sacrifice that is pretty obviously swain: What if kindred is telling the story from the perspective of the demon instead of swain? So instead of swain giving a hand to rule with and getting nothing that would last in return, his demon raim gave a hand to rule with and got nothing that would last in return. With yone and Samira teasing swain losing control of raum somehow I feel like they’re setting up swain to ultimately fail and so the more popular interpretation would make sense, but if this interpretation is correct I feel like that would add some more context to how swain managed to control raum, and imo add to his character more than simply having him as a fool playing with too much power, but idk
I've keep hearing or reading that LeBlanc is really old and that is not her real form. At this interaction, I find her voice or the way she talks very old like a granny but her image is very young
That's actually pretty interesting in terms of how people see the lamb and the wolf. To die a brutal death is truly dreadful while dying swiftly without a fuss is considered as kindness.
@@100PIEDADEwar He is an ascended and ascended can die Jax killed one during the Icathian rebellion, and in the twilight of the Gods history Ta'nari killed Xuuyan, who was an ascended Aatrox cant die because some genius trapped him and the remaining Darkin in their own weapons, which are apparently indestructible
@@benepic3101 The first story is about the Fading Icon, he's shepherding souls to the spirit realm, but he eventually is caught by the Ether Reaper and devoured.
yeah :(, I adore Kindred but god their gameplay in LoL isnt the best, specially with Jungle being so unfriendly to play, they feel so good in LoR with their slow start and eventual power scaling, and they give that feeling of people taking your marks very well too with them killing their own units to deny you your power. some aspects translate soooo well, same with A Sol like you mentioned, he feels gorgeous and powerful
Eh I'd disagree. Can't say much about a sol but i play kindred jg and adc and i pretty much always carry. They're in general just one of the best junglers in the game imo, assuming you don't get counterpicked, and even then their scaling is so good to where if you at least don't feed , and have 5 or more stacks by 20 minutes you can still keep up. They kinda just fit my playstyle very well in general i guess
@@quintonadgerson9586 Kindred always feels very clunky to me. It's something about her auto-attack animation having a long wind-up, I keep cancelling autos in the jungle, and the way her Q interacts with autos feels very weird too. She feels like a cool character who never got past the concept phase. Also, I really like her ult, but somehow it feels wrong that the literal embodiment of death has a supportive spell that heals enemies.
Lamb and Wolf is one entity before they became the embodiment of death. "Once there was a man who was very lonely. Why was he lonely? All things must meet this man, but they shunned him. Did he chase them all? He took an axe, and split himself in two. Right down the middle. So he would always have a friend? So he would always have a friend." in Kindred teaser, a bark of a tree was splitting in two, then the Masks were shown.
@@yigitbilgici I really hope Riot would consider to change her in the future. Reputation is one if not the most boring and bland keyword in the game right now since they just scream "go face, value later"
@@MartinG1993 Well the Mimic card is already pretty Ionian, Lux also doesn't fit so well in Demacia. I don't think an outcast noxian champion would be that bad.
3:30 For the record re: the Mask Mother, Kindred aren't explicitly calling her THEIR mother. She's simply asking if they know her name, and chances are that it's mainly a title, and while Kindred might be related to her in some way, it seems like Riot's leaving open the possibility for them to NOT be direct descendants.
God I love LoR. The way it expands the lore is amazing At first you'd think Kindred is the one and only version of the grim reaper on Runeterra yet they are (seemingly) not. Not only are they spirits, barely different from many others. They aren't the first nor the last. Noxus isn't all bad. Ionia isn't all good. Ashe isn't the portagonist and Lissandra/Sejuani aren't the antagonists of the Freljord. It has some amazing wordlbuilding
@@proxi315 Kindred is merely a manifestation of their mask, the shape of death that people believe in. There was another like Kindred before them until its mask was forgotten. Same faith awaits Kindred and Mother, regardless how known they are.
@@andreasmanalu7859 the first story is actually about the "Fading Icon", he was trying to guide people souls to the spirit realms but later on got caught and devoured by the ethen field or whatever it's called.
Kindred: LeBlanc, we have come for You Mordekaiser: HEY, GET IN LINE PAL! Swain Rell Jarvan Katarina Darkwill Kindred: bard? What on earth are You doing here Bard: (cracks knuckles) *chime noises*
@@Dr_Weirdoo Theoretically it could also happen if LeBlanc becomes a threat to cosmic balance somehow, Bard just appears and fucking clocks LeBlanc across Runeterra before disappearing
That "Mother" gave me chills down my spine, Jesus. Meaning that she created Kindred along with the other representations of Death, yet Kindred's birth was from the story they tell of a man who split himself in half. So like did Mother put a mask on each half?
@@ChubbyChoncc could be simply that the masks are conduits through which beings can access runterra, allowing death for instance to take shape and form as kindred to pursue the undead fleeing death's approach. thus the mask mother would be quite literally the mother of the mask themselves
@@julienleu6314 That's what people used to think before they read Mask Mother's flavor text. But it might be just as simple as that though, I still want her existence is somewhat mysterious so I'm in the denial phase here lol.
@@ChubbyChoncc that flavor text specifically beings with 'they say' which can refer to anyone but most likely the folks telling the tales. it is what people in runterra think, mention or speak of so not quite necessarily a verified truth. also when she asked for her name kindred both said 'mother' which doesn't mean she is their mother and more simply that her name, (since she's the mask mother) is quite literally mother
No i think that Mother gave masks to these creatures so that they can represent death. She gave one to the Pale Man, who coudant deal with the hate so he exiled himself to Mount Targon, where he climbed and Ascended becoming Kindred. His story then became the most popular variation of death as many cultures (Noxus, Demacia, Ionia) belived in it, wich meant Spirits like the Fading Icon became weaker (theyre power is tied to their worship, like Greek mythology), and started trying to avoid dying themselves. And thats where the Etherfiend comes to place, to hunt these spirits (wich is the Reason that Kindred dont even know it exists, cause of the popularity) This is basiacly my theory, but this is easially the best concept in the entire, kinda dull, Runeterra lore
I think she's the one giving wolf and lamb their mask. I mean the origin of Kindred only told us about a man splitting himself in two, didnt say anything about why did his two self come in a form of lamb and wolf. maybe the mask mother is the one giving spirits a physical form by giving them some magical animal masks. she mighy not be their real mother but they call her that because the mask are their origin
"Mother" is the name like sometimes in tv or games they call some old woman Mother or Grandmother. It's not really birth related but name from age, respect and trust
@@dennisdns3 Honestly, that theory sounds so accurate that I wouldn't be suprised if it was true. We've seen her give a mask to someone and their soul took the form of a pig after all.
Considering she claimed to be the first of the "Masks", it seems like she may have somehow given birth to the very concept of death. The Etherfiend seems to be the one responsible for escorting dead gods to the beyond, as he claims he would become the last...and lamb said that another may guide them when at last they are forgotten....AND the fading icon, who seems to be an earlier form of Kindred, is clearly going with him soon. So that proves that there are multiple gods of death, right? So then the Mask Mother could be the one who created the gray man in the first place....maybe.
For those interested in Kindred's origin (assuming you've heard of the Gray Man): Kindred and company are different representations of death. The Gray Man, however, is death itself. No representation, just actual death. People feared death and, trying to understand it, they came up with different embodiments of it. One of those is Lamb and Wolf aka Kindred, another is the fading icon. These characters don't actually exist from the beginning, but once the first mask representing one is crafted, they become a mutual concept across people's minds. Since everyone knows Kindred (or another embodiment), everyone can see them. Since everyone can see them, they are real, in a way. As an embodiment is forgotten over time, like the fading icon, it is practically erased from existence (think that guy from Pixar's Inside Out). However, death will be a thing for as long as life is, and another embodiment will represent it. Example: A man is killed. As he draws his last breath, he sees a figure. Whether this is Lamb and Wolf or the fading icon depends on which one he believes in. Neither is actually on the ground in front of him, it's just in his head. Ultimately, though, it doesn't matter, as he's dead either way. In other words, the masks are everything. Nobody wants to see true death, so they gave it masks. Each mask is a face of death, a representation in itself. I have read the latest Kindred story on universe, but I'm still not sure whether the Mask Mother has a physical body or not. If she does, she should be the one who creates the legends of the different embodiments and indeed creates the masks for people to use and believe in. If she doesn't I guess she's another abstract concept representing belief or something.
I actually agree with you about the grayman being the true death and the splitting is a metaphor for all incarnations of death which people believed in. Accepting death or denying death, and eventually being forgotten are all a part of it. I'm just confused about the mother.
@@davemidua6138 After giving it some more thought, maybe the Mask Mother is fear of death itself. She might represent people's desire to give death a face (a mask) and to "get to know" death. With no fear of death/no Mask Mother, there wouldn't be interpretations/embodiments of it and everyone would see it as what it is aka just the Gray Man. No masks would be needed or created. It's kind of confusing but checks out in the end.
@@v1298 that actually sums up her character pretty well. Fear is a natural facet associated to death and because of it people want to "mortalize" death to make it more bearable. Super cool term for you to state "giving death a face." I'll keep that in mind.
I think that's the point, she sounds serene in some lines, languid in others like when she says she knows that wolf is hungry. She seems either graceful or bored.
Leblanc: (is leblanc) Leblanc: (is jarvan) Swain: goddamnit, is anyone else here leblanc? Neeko: i didnt want to cause trouble but now that You mention it...
And now I'm thinking that Kindred deliberately met that actress centuries ago in order to perpetuate their myth....and thus to keep themselves from being forgotten like the Fading Icon for as long as possible. Huh. A god of death fighting to preserve their own life
I think that woman was either the Mask mother (or an incarnation of her) or straight up LeBlanc. And i actually think that Leblanc wants the world to remember kindred, because kindred is part of her Masterplan to fight against mordekaisers return.
@@faselfasel2864 thats a nice theory but just remember that kindred is just a myth in runeterra, kinda like the loch ness monster or big foot. So in LB's eyes, theres no point in investing into a legend
@@averonisgaming9023 there are plenty of references to kindred and her workings all across runeterra. And Leblanc herself is a myth to most but the highest command of noxus and the black rose. Leblanc is centuries old and plotting for vast amounts of time. She has a lot of knowledge about runeterra through her spy network and her collaboration with vladimir. It's not beyond her to know that kindred isn't a mere myth and the kindred would be a valuable ally against mordekaiser and his army of undead.
@@faselfasel2864 kindred is a they and even if their work is shown throughout runeterra, they are just the concept of death, something most people can't see unless they are dying themselves
@@averonisgaming9023 You are kinda ignorant to the lore. If you read the short story finishing soates, you would realize that people know kindred as Lamb and Wolf, so much so that they replicated their masks for the play. They know about kindred in Ionia as the Taker, they know about kindred in bilgewater, in noxus in the freljord and even demacia. Even the concept of commoners about kindreds nature is quite close to the truth, so it is well inside the scope for Leblanc to scheme around her. Even on the wiki pages mordekaiser and kindred are listed as mutually related characters. Leblanc needs kindred to be remembered if she ever wants to stop mordekaisers return.
@Ted Shin Didnt he already react to that? he said that they called her "Mother" because thats her name, not necessarily because she is their literal mom
So many lore drops in this video! My goodness, Riot - what you lack you make up for in lore; so deep! I'd like to also point out - whoever wrote Kindred's lines needs a raise. They are writing sheer poetry!
The Kindred quotes are so cool, I love how they reference specific champion's lore in Lamb's stories for Wolf - the star that crashed down to earth was Pantheon, that "met its match" when Aatrox killed him and Atreus was brought back, and the "hand to rule with" is Swain's demonic hand that let him take over Noxus.
Me: "So, why is my enemy taking so long?"
Enemy: *Listening to Lamb's story*
Sadly it doesn't work like this if i am not wrong. But i would do like this xD
Where is the lamb sauce ?!
I am guilty of this.
"oh sorry we're we fighting?"
"He owes us the remainder"
Was Swain supposed to die in Ionia, but then made a deal with Raum so he could cheat death?
And the second story is so obviously about Swain!
"What was given? A hand to rule with."
jep!
Same with GP
The first could be yone (came back from the dead too) and the last pantheon (the god died but the man lived)
It's said in Swain's lore that he basically made a reverse Faustian Bargain with Raum. Instead of making a sacrifice (like his soul or some shit), Swain tricked Raum and gained dominance over his power. I wonder if the quotes we've just seen hint at what happened there. Very interesting.
We need Necrit here
Death works like Urban Legends in Runeterra. Stories being made(A man being split in half), creation from the story(Mask Mother), then the stories will be forgotten(Fading Icon).
Then the cycle continues, even the Lamb acknowledge her own soon inevitable demise, being forgotten.
Wolf hates sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere
3:18 my favourite part
7:54 Crimson Curator: I have the name, I need *reputation*.
(Doesn't bring anything for reputation, needs 2 more power)
I understand you Leblanc.
OMG I LOVE HER IDLE LINES
Whoever voices the Etherfiend holyyyy I can’t get over how amazing that voice is
Kindred is the best thing that happened to this game, i love to hear their interactions.
“What information do you have for me?”
“A rose blooms in the desert”
Samira?
"Ahhh the arrogance of youth" :D man such good lines haha
How many rogue Leblanc clones are there
I don't know who the voice actor of Lamb is, but they need to be given every award in existence.
I cannot believe that Wolf is voiced by the same person who voiced Yusuke from P5.
The story about the hand is about swain and the story about the star is about pantheon/Atreus
I am everywhere, I AM EVERYONE
Lamb
AKA the ASMR queen.
Wow kindred was talking abt pantheona nd swain
"Tell me a story..."
About the story of the sacrifice that is pretty obviously swain:
What if kindred is telling the story from the perspective of the demon instead of swain?
So instead of swain giving a hand to rule with and getting nothing that would last in return, his demon raim gave a hand to rule with and got nothing that would last in return.
With yone and Samira teasing swain losing control of raum somehow I feel like they’re setting up swain to ultimately fail and so the more popular interpretation would make sense, but if this interpretation is correct I feel like that would add some more context to how swain managed to control raum, and imo add to his character more than simply having him as a fool playing with too much power, but idk
Everyone's just mocking poor Swain today.
And Vlad, apparently.
This is the only time I want someone to afk kindred stories are just to good
I hope mordekaiser is next, especially now that Leblanc is in the game. He will have so many great interactions
BY WHICH HAND ?
THE MAN'S , OR THE DEMON'S ?
thank you!!
I've keep hearing or reading that LeBlanc is really old and that is not her real form. At this interaction, I find her voice or the way she talks very old like a granny but her image is very young
when they give leblanc a bob omg
I just noticed Kindred's name represents them as Kind and Dread.
No I'm kidding, there's no such thing lmfao.
That's actually pretty interesting in terms of how people see the lamb and the wolf. To die a brutal death is truly dreadful while dying swiftly without a fuss is considered as kindness.
A vast land....
Too much SAND!!!
02:19 Renekton got burned by Kindred by simple english
how to have i waited to see my fav duo
Opponent: Goes AFK for 0,00001 second
Kindred: My name is Kindred and I'm 33 million years old...
"I just want a peaceful life"
Kindred: Our house is in the northeastern section of the Shadow Isles where all the villas used to be, and we are not married.
Kindred Queen
Kindred queen, daisan no bakudan: Wolf za dusto
JoJo references are fated to meet each other
Riot should make an audio book of Kindred telling every story that Lambs knows cause i mean their voices are ear candy
Lamb not Kindred
Kindred Is both
@@manuelciancarella7152 wouldn't mind hearing wolf in it lol
@@bedosabry2255 yeah Wolf has to ask for the story after all
*their voice
LAMB, TELL ME A STORY!
Ascended champions: I live forever!!!
Kindred: Actually no
Lissandra: lives for almost 10 thousand Years
Kindred: Hmm she's been escaping for a while
Lamb sounds so done with it, like yeah, sure buddy
Aatrox cannot die.
@@100PIEDADEwar dude, true
@@100PIEDADEwar He is an ascended and ascended can die
Jax killed one during the Icathian rebellion, and in the twilight of the Gods history Ta'nari killed Xuuyan, who was an ascended
Aatrox cant die because some genius trapped him and the remaining Darkin in their own weapons, which are apparently indestructible
Kindred casually telling the stories of multiple champions. Swain, Pantheon.....sheesh they are like a storybook.
Good catch bro
well pantheon might be the next Targonien champ then
I think the first one is either yasuo or riven. It's really hard to tell considering how vague that one is
@@benepic3101 The first story is about the Fading Icon, he's shepherding souls to the spirit realm, but he eventually is caught by the Ether Reaper and devoured.
I got the Swain and Fading Icon ones, but I missed the Pantheon one, good eye.
Only I get goosebumps when they both say mother?
No, I got them too.
Remember my name?
I got them
Hah, yeah, goosebumps...
I literally jumped off my chair
Yes definitely only you, 100% only you
Leblanc talking to herself like she's her own bestfriend
Or frenemy.
well, she is, canonically.
lets conquer Noxus with 𝖋𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖉𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖕
LMFAOOO im cracking up at these comments shdndjfndgg
@@guifdcanalli I'll conquer noxus with FRIENDSHIP and this gun I found.
The Lamb's voice is fascinating
She's amazing, and I love how she sometimes hums songs in game.
Lol it really is soothing but then wolf comes in so angry
Indeed
@@hipten i think that what they intended
More impressive than that abomination called seraphine
Fading Icon: Noooo! You cant just kill me, im once a resemblance of death, everyone once feared me. You cant do this.
Etherfiend: Yes
Etherfiend is a true chad
_"Come little one,join us in feast and enter my mouth."_
@@gunlyte4661 Please No More Vore
*Fiddlesticks enters the chat*
The reason that kindred has so much idle dialogue is because the tf/fizz opponent are still trying to pull their combo.
...or Aphelios players analyzing the next weapon phase lol
@@JustYourAverageYotsubro loool
It’s funny how Aurelion Sol and Kindred are countless times more fun and useful here than in actual LoL
yeah :(, I adore Kindred but god their gameplay in LoL isnt the best, specially with Jungle being so unfriendly to play, they feel so good in LoR with their slow start and eventual power scaling, and they give that feeling of people taking your marks very well too with them killing their own units to deny you your power.
some aspects translate soooo well, same with A Sol like you mentioned, he feels gorgeous and powerful
Eh I'd disagree. Can't say much about a sol but i play kindred jg and adc and i pretty much always carry. They're in general just one of the best junglers in the game imo, assuming you don't get counterpicked, and even then their scaling is so good to where if you at least don't feed , and have 5 or more stacks by 20 minutes you can still keep up. They kinda just fit my playstyle very well in general i guess
@@quintonadgerson9586 Kindred always feels very clunky to me. It's something about her auto-attack animation having a long wind-up, I keep cancelling autos in the jungle, and the way her Q interacts with autos feels very weird too. She feels like a cool character who never got past the concept phase. Also, I really like her ult, but somehow it feels wrong that the literal embodiment of death has a supportive spell that heals enemies.
I mean, their state right now is not very good lol
@@Ceracio I think the idea is that death doesn't favor one side and that's why everyone is affected
I love the chemistry of lamb and wolf.
Siblings eternal, opposite and yet so alike.
It's really cool because the Wolf can feel emotions but doesn't understand them and the lamb can understand them but doesn't feel anything
Lamb and Wolf is one entity before they became the embodiment of death.
"Once there was a man who was very lonely.
Why was he lonely?
All things must meet this man, but they shunned him.
Did he chase them all?
He took an axe, and split himself in two. Right down the middle.
So he would always have a friend?
So he would always have a friend."
in Kindred teaser, a bark of a tree was splitting in two, then the Masks were shown.
They're the same person
If I'm forgotten, then... No!
*Y e s .*
His best line.
Finally leblanc getting some voice lines that fit the lore
The gameplay is meh though...
@@ChubbyChoncc yeah you're right gameplay doesnt really give that trickster feeling
@@yigitbilgici I really hope Riot would consider to change her in the future. Reputation is one if not the most boring and bland keyword in the game right now since they just scream "go face, value later"
To be fair not much in the way of trickery that a noxus card can have without being an ionia or piltover card.
@@MartinG1993 Well the Mimic card is already pretty Ionian, Lux also doesn't fit so well in Demacia. I don't think an outcast noxian champion would be that bad.
0:20 Matt Mercer gets mad at Matt Mercer.
@5567 5555 Matt Mercer voices both of them
@5567 5555 I'm serious, Matt voiced both those characters.
I knew that he voiced GP, didn't know he also voiced Wolf
@@Dafreshcut The more you know!
Talk about self reflection XD
FINALLY. My best little death friends.
Little simp death lover's.
Yep
They are my favorites
@@TheCryingDove69 that's a weird way of saying suicidal
I absolutely love fading icons card. Just the idea of a god of death being forgotten is so intriguing.
i hope he dont get eaten by the etherfiend.
@@gregoryrichards521 too late unfortunately
@@miaukicia1977 hey maybe he only got the icon’s mask and icon got new one? A man can dream.
@@gregoryrichards521 Well we saw his flesh also...
i sense a bit of Coco and Noragami plot
wolf: i hate sand.... i dont like sand . Its course, and ruff, and irritating. And it gets everywhere.
Azir marches with sandy intent*
is this a star wars reference
I knew it! Wolf was Anakin the whole time!
Padme: *blushes
"ruff" lmao
3:30 For the record re: the Mask Mother, Kindred aren't explicitly calling her THEIR mother. She's simply asking if they know her name, and chances are that it's mainly a title, and while Kindred might be related to her in some way, it seems like Riot's leaving open the possibility for them to NOT be direct descendants.
They are not direct descendants but it is heavily implied she made them (and other death gods across runeterra)
she says she is the first mask... so i think she made all the death gods or something like that ...
She made the being kindred split originated from, they simply remember her as the originator.
God I love LoR. The way it expands the lore is amazing
At first you'd think Kindred is the one and only version of the grim reaper on Runeterra yet they are (seemingly) not. Not only are they spirits, barely different from many others. They aren't the first nor the last.
Noxus isn't all bad. Ionia isn't all good. Ashe isn't the portagonist and Lissandra/Sejuani aren't the antagonists of the Freljord.
It has some amazing wordlbuilding
@@proxi315 Kindred is merely a manifestation of their mask, the shape of death that people believe in. There was another like Kindred before them until its mask was forgotten. Same faith awaits Kindred and Mother, regardless how known they are.
3:31 actual chills hearing them at the same time
4:43
Ah the story of Atreus THE MAN
atreus the aspect of chadness
Wow what a spot on, didnt realise that he was talking about Panth
@@Icerollstar1 kindred talked about yone, swain and atreus/pantheon
@@andreasmanalu7859 the first story is actually about the "Fading Icon", he was trying to guide people souls to the spirit realms but later on got caught and devoured by the ethen field or whatever it's called.
Kindred: LeBlanc, we have come for You
Mordekaiser: HEY, GET IN LINE PAL!
Swain
Rell
Jarvan
Katarina
Darkwill
Kindred: bard? What on earth are You doing here
Bard: (cracks knuckles) *chime noises*
Underrated comment
spongebob reference
Why Bard?
@@dominicguye8058 comedic effect
@@Dr_Weirdoo Theoretically it could also happen if LeBlanc becomes a threat to cosmic balance somehow, Bard just appears and fucking clocks LeBlanc across Runeterra before disappearing
That "Mother" gave me chills down my spine, Jesus.
Meaning that she created Kindred along with the other representations of Death, yet Kindred's birth was from the story they tell of a man who split himself in half.
So like did Mother put a mask on each half?
The best thing is: The Mask Mother don't know who gave her the mask she's wearing. In my theory the Grey Man started it all.
@@ChubbyChoncc could be simply that the masks are conduits through which beings can access runterra, allowing death for instance to take shape and form as kindred to pursue the undead fleeing death's approach. thus the mask mother would be quite literally the mother of the mask themselves
@@julienleu6314 That's what people used to think before they read Mask Mother's flavor text. But it might be just as simple as that though, I still want her existence is somewhat mysterious so I'm in the denial phase here lol.
@@ChubbyChoncc that flavor text specifically beings with 'they say' which can refer to anyone but most likely the folks telling the tales. it is what people in runterra think, mention or speak of so not quite necessarily a verified truth.
also when she asked for her name kindred both said 'mother' which doesn't mean she is their mother and more simply that her name, (since she's the mask mother) is quite literally mother
No i think that Mother gave masks to these creatures so that they can represent death. She gave one to the Pale Man, who coudant deal with the hate so he exiled himself to Mount Targon, where he climbed and Ascended becoming Kindred. His story then became the most popular variation of death as many cultures (Noxus, Demacia, Ionia) belived in it, wich meant Spirits like the Fading Icon became weaker (theyre power is tied to their worship, like Greek mythology), and started trying to avoid dying themselves. And thats where the Etherfiend comes to place, to hunt these spirits (wich is the Reason that Kindred dont even know it exists, cause of the popularity)
This is basiacly my theory, but this is easially the best concept in the entire, kinda dull, Runeterra lore
Lamb: "A vast land"
Wolf: "I don't like sand, it's coarse and rough, and it gets everywhere"
The shiriman desert is vast :)
"Can you remember my name?
"Mother!"
Wait what?!
I think she's the one giving wolf and lamb their mask. I mean the origin of Kindred only told us about a man splitting himself in two, didnt say anything about why did his two self come in a form of lamb and wolf. maybe the mask mother is the one giving spirits a physical form by giving them some magical animal masks. she mighy not be their real mother but they call her that because the mask are their origin
that card name mask 'mother'
"Mother" is the name
like sometimes in tv or games they call some old woman Mother or Grandmother.
It's not really birth related but name from age, respect and trust
@@dennisdns3 Honestly, that theory sounds so accurate that I wouldn't be suprised if it was true. We've seen her give a mask to someone and their soul took the form of a pig after all.
Considering she claimed to be the first of the "Masks", it seems like she may have somehow given birth to the very concept of death. The Etherfiend seems to be the one responsible for escorting dead gods to the beyond, as he claims he would become the last...and lamb said that another may guide them when at last they are forgotten....AND the fading icon, who seems to be an earlier form of Kindred, is clearly going with him soon. So that proves that there are multiple gods of death, right? So then the Mask Mother could be the one who created the gray man in the first place....maybe.
Hecarim: THE LIVING WILL FALL.
Wolf: THEY ALWAYS DO!
Lamb: Bi awooow or bi teeff.
LMAOO
That sounded adorable to me lol
For those interested in Kindred's origin (assuming you've heard of the Gray Man):
Kindred and company are different representations of death. The Gray Man, however, is death itself. No representation, just actual death. People feared death and, trying to understand it, they came up with different embodiments of it. One of those is Lamb and Wolf aka Kindred, another is the fading icon. These characters don't actually exist from the beginning, but once the first mask representing one is crafted, they become a mutual concept across people's minds. Since everyone knows Kindred (or another embodiment), everyone can see them. Since everyone can see them, they are real, in a way. As an embodiment is forgotten over time, like the fading icon, it is practically erased from existence (think that guy from Pixar's Inside Out). However, death will be a thing for as long as life is, and another embodiment will represent it.
Example: A man is killed. As he draws his last breath, he sees a figure. Whether this is Lamb and Wolf or the fading icon depends on which one he believes in. Neither is actually on the ground in front of him, it's just in his head. Ultimately, though, it doesn't matter, as he's dead either way.
In other words, the masks are everything. Nobody wants to see true death, so they gave it masks. Each mask is a face of death, a representation in itself. I have read the latest Kindred story on universe, but I'm still not sure whether the Mask Mother has a physical body or not. If she does, she should be the one who creates the legends of the different embodiments and indeed creates the masks for people to use and believe in. If she doesn't I guess she's another abstract concept representing belief or something.
I actually agree with you about the grayman being the true death and the splitting is a metaphor for all incarnations of death which people believed in. Accepting death or denying death, and eventually being forgotten are all a part of it. I'm just confused about the mother.
@@davemidua6138 After giving it some more thought, maybe the Mask Mother is fear of death itself. She might represent people's desire to give death a face (a mask) and to "get to know" death. With no fear of death/no Mask Mother, there wouldn't be interpretations/embodiments of it and everyone would see it as what it is aka just the Gray Man. No masks would be needed or created.
It's kind of confusing but checks out in the end.
@@v1298 that actually sums up her character pretty well. Fear is a natural facet associated to death and because of it people want to "mortalize" death to make it more bearable.
Super cool term for you to state "giving death a face." I'll keep that in mind.
To be honest, Lamb's voice sounds like she's sleeping but somebody wakes her up
I think that's the point, she sounds serene in some lines, languid in others like when she says she knows that wolf is hungry. She seems either graceful or bored.
@@FireTalon24 Not really bored. But rather calm, emotionless and extreme neutral voice.
I now needs art of Lamb losing sleep because Wolf keeps wanting her to tell him a story
The other's can't feel but understands, the other can feel but can't understand
A Sociopath and a Psychopath, a perfect blend.
@@forbiddenextasis2695 i think its better to be represented as Lamb is blind and
Wolf is deaf. Rather than psychopath and sociopath
Xd
6:26 Elise: "I pull the strings"/ LB: "Of course you do, dear" lmao THE SHADE...
So underrated
1:18
Wolf rating shurima:7.8/10 too much sand
Ah i know this "trumpet" refrences
This is underrated
6:55 when the imposter is sus
Amogus leblanc
League of legends: the sus amongus
amogus
Elise: I pull the strings 🕷️👹
LeBlanc: Of course you do, dear. 🙄😒
7:37 the way leBlanc says "greedy girl" it is just..or my mind is just dirty.
Leblanc: (is leblanc)
Leblanc: (is jarvan)
Swain: goddamnit, is anyone else here leblanc?
Neeko: i didnt want to cause trouble but now that You mention it...
hahahha squidward
Thats why I have 100k on leblanc
I like how Kindred enemy idle is just throwing shade at the opponent taking so long that they can tell a story
I love kindreds character. This is the coolest depiction of death ive ever seen in media.
Necrit is gonna love the interactions with kindred
or hate, cause its therory was wrong
@@ivanslucki I don't think Necrit is that petty, more lore is always good, you can't take the fact that your theories get deconfirmed too personally
Well the fact that Kindred is the Champion who makes Necrit dive deeper into the lore, so yes absolutly
@@Korinengamecorp yeah, it is not the first time his theory was incorrect and he was never ever petty about it
@@ivanslucki he would never do that... he loves the lore and the storys... even if he is wrong about something he would never hate the lore ...
*Me playing a game where I need to do something in a certain amount of time*
Lamb: Storytime
LeBlanc is svageeeeeee. "by which hand, man's or the demon's?" what a words
Me and my other personalities at 3am: 7:10
Being plural be like
Jesus Christ the big bird vulture thing is terrifying
Yes (my favourite quote of him)
If even kindred
The personification of death
Is intimidated by it then you can bet your ass he is terrifying
@Wendra To be fair he is quite terrifying,his part of kindred's tale and the one who devours the forgotten.
Do you have a timestamp?
@@blobblub9424 8:45
Vladimir: "I'd never keep my quests waiting"
LeBlanc: "But I've been waiting centuries for you to die"
Also Vladimir: "Ability haste: 80'
The idle interaction is the reason why every game with Kindred take so long
Am I the only one who feels sad As I hear Kindred talking about their End as the Wolf would resist and fight back💔💔💔
4:26
Its just like the prey they hunt, lamb accepting death while wolf fights back.
Such irony
Yey spicy interactions between Swain and Leblanc OwO
Aren't they supposed to be rival/lovers or something? Like the kinda couple that would kill and kiss eachother given the chance?
They are enemies since Leblanc tried to kill Swain. Since he is always ruining her plans.
@@tehrik0020 They are enemys but work together since both of them fear a greater threat: The return of Mordekaiser.
@@tehrik0020 ugh no they are not lovers. Swain executed Leblanc (tho it was just a clone)
@@peterkorinek9881 they were in the old lore, but now Swain wants LeBlanc dead no matter what
0:42 i can't help it, i STILL hear "treasonous ARSE"
so iam not the only one
I keep hearing, "trees into sauce"
And suddenly it’s 18+
@@Qiyanemo "We shall pierce their trees into sauce!!"
Baker Khalista confirmed
03:47 - Grey Man
04:10 - Swain (?)
04:25 - Kindred's fate
04:43 - Atreus & Pantheon (vs Aatrox)
Not Grey but Pale
@@Enellamard Grey Man
I love that they've put the original dialogue at 5:02 on LoR too, it's a really nice touch
And now I'm thinking that Kindred deliberately met that actress centuries ago in order to perpetuate their myth....and thus to keep themselves from being forgotten like the Fading Icon for as long as possible. Huh. A god of death fighting to preserve their own life
I think that woman was either the Mask mother (or an incarnation of her) or straight up LeBlanc. And i actually think that Leblanc wants the world to remember kindred, because kindred is part of her Masterplan to fight against mordekaisers return.
@@faselfasel2864 thats a nice theory but just remember that kindred is just a myth in runeterra, kinda like the loch ness monster or big foot. So in LB's eyes, theres no point in investing into a legend
@@averonisgaming9023 there are plenty of references to kindred and her workings all across runeterra. And Leblanc herself is a myth to most but the highest command of noxus and the black rose. Leblanc is centuries old and plotting for vast amounts of time. She has a lot of knowledge about runeterra through her spy network and her collaboration with vladimir. It's not beyond her to know that kindred isn't a mere myth and the kindred would be a valuable ally against mordekaiser and his army of undead.
@@faselfasel2864 kindred is a they and even if their work is shown throughout runeterra, they are just the concept of death, something most people can't see unless they are dying themselves
@@averonisgaming9023 You are kinda ignorant to the lore. If you read the short story finishing soates, you would realize that people know kindred as Lamb and Wolf, so much so that they replicated their masks for the play. They know about kindred in Ionia as the Taker, they know about kindred in bilgewater, in noxus in the freljord and even demacia. Even the concept of commoners about kindreds nature is quite close to the truth, so it is well inside the scope for Leblanc to scheme around her. Even on the wiki pages mordekaiser and kindred are listed as mutually related characters. Leblanc needs kindred to be remembered if she ever wants to stop mordekaisers return.
When the Kindred called her "Mother", I think my jaw just bore a hole through my shoes.
I like how Leblanc is still so calm even if you lost
Being eons old kinda gets boring after a while
Its part of her plan,we do not play her, she plays us
@@romusa10 have you not seen her card art? she plays the player....THE PLAYER she is 4 parallel realitys ahed of us!
@@ivanslucki afterall she is every where, SHE IS EVERYONE
It's an illusion the enemy didn't actually get a victory
I love leblanc's lines! It shows that she doesn't play the game of thrones on the throne but whispering in the ear.
The "MAN" told at 4:55 might be Pantheon
She also talked about Swain lmao
Ionian Myth,Swain,Their End,and Pantheon. These things are what was implied in the idle.
Eitherfiend would be an amazing champion
Or become an Anivia's skin would be hella cool, like they did with Lee Sin's followers.
When i am facing against kindred, i rope purposely just to listen to story.
1:23 is such a nice interaction, no matter how wise you become you never get to fully understand what death is, and what comes next beyond it.
Oooohhh, this is the juicy lore I've been waiting for.
Soulspinner's voice is the definition of silky
them: yo dawg you gonna make your move yet
me: shut up i gotta hear this
I love LeBlancs interaction between her "clones"
When Lamb and Wolf say "mother" together i get so much chills
Kindred tells the story of Pantheon, the star wich fell and the man reborn from it. Maybe next Targon champion?
The star that fell was Asol and Azir/Xerath was the man reborn
@@markvsslta3549 Asol doesn't belong in the same story as Azir and Xerath, and those two don't have anything in common with stars
Necrit is not happy with them calling her mother
and the leblanc sayng there is no more lore? woof, i feel a video incoming sayng "i messed up"
Who cares
@Ted Shin Didnt he already react to that? he said that they called her "Mother" because thats her name, not necessarily because she is their literal mom
So many lore drops in this video! My goodness, Riot - what you lack you make up for in lore; so deep! I'd like to also point out - whoever wrote Kindred's lines needs a raise. They are writing sheer poetry!
They still have the best lines in League I believe. Swain might also share that honor too but they're both damn good.
Kled's are my all time favorite, but Kindred's is a close second. That little rascal is funny, but those two's lines are beautiful.
When LeBlanc Is SuS “Who is this IMp0sTer” 🙂 6:55
Kindred will always be my favorite character from this series.
Kindred is one of the best designed champions lore and design-wise.
4:11 This was hinting how the Grand General's acquired Raum.
The Kindred quotes are so cool, I love how they reference specific champion's lore in Lamb's stories for Wolf - the star that crashed down to earth was Pantheon, that "met its match" when Aatrox killed him and Atreus was brought back, and the "hand to rule with" is Swain's demonic hand that let him take over Noxus.
Wow, lamb likes telling stories?
I mean, they have lived so long, they probably have a lot of stories to tell.