From Panama. Salsa fan. 2 o 3 classes a week. Social dancing 1 or twice a week. Going back dancing at the academies might take 6 months with special care. Social dancing maybe a year or so. Online classes fulfill in some way the need. But looking forward to going to the dance floor again. Love your channel
I would rate myself as a "9" on the dance fanatic scale. Before the lockdown I did 3-4 classes a week and danced socially once or twice a week. I don't think anyone will be allowed to contact dance until 2021. I'm not still dancing, as I dont have access to a partner. I don't like doing online dancing as I have to keep looking at the screen, and I prefer dancing with a partner and following their lead. I dance alone at home to music to make myself happy and stay fit. I live in Spain and we have the strictest lockdown enforcement compared to other countries.
10 on the fanatic scale.... from India.... not dancing salsa at all now because I don’t have a partner... currently taking paid online classes for tap dancing because it doesn’t require a partner. I think it will take a year for the situation to come back to normal.
Hi, here's a theory, *it's optimistic from the mathematical/modeling theory, but how it translates to psychology, well, that's not my field.* First, I am from Israel, a fanatic dancer you'd say, on and off for 20 years now. Israel has a strict lockdown, so no salsa. So, as for what's optimistic, and I am just a math/cs modelling guy, not a doctor - research papers are coming out from California, Boston, New York and earlier from Milano, all showing that the spread of covid-19 is significant, in the tens of percent points at the very least. This is optimistic in two ways: 1) It means that the diagnosed are only a tiny fraction of all that are sick - this means that mortality is lower - this may affect governments to allow contact sports sooner 2) It means that lockdowns have only had a minor effect on the spread - this means that the damage to economy may not be justified, as the lockdown is inefficient - again it may affect governments to allow contact sports sooner. So, this is the data from the first randomized samples of antibody testing. However, governments are affected by public opinion as well, and if fear is high, governments may decide to keep the lockdown without any regard to these research papers, to avoid public resistance, as I said, psychology and politics are not my field. However, the math starts to be *very* optimistic, and in my experience, only math wins in the end. So for what it's worth, my 2c, thanks for your channel, be strong.
I love your point if view and as a matter of fact you might be totally right. Since it are the same governments + media that had been spreading the fear, they will lise face if they have to admit they were wrong. So than vaccinations can bring a great solution. Instead of having to admit that all those lockdowns did not help, they can make a point that lockdowns were necessary till the point of a vaccin. What do you think?
@@salsaventura Hi, 1) The good news - Vaccination may not be the 1st protection against the virus to come: Statistically, it seems that natural immunity develops for this virus. We simply don't see enough reports of people getting sick again. We should have already heard reports of people getting sick again in the hundreds of thousands, but we are only hearing rumors about maybe a few people that got sick again somewhere in the world, that's all? Every virus has some people that get reinfected, these are people with a deficient immune system, but for this virus to have so little reports of people getting sick again, that means that people DO develop immunity after recovering. This is *major,* as it means that herd immunity is already developing everywhere,. So herd immunity may protect us months before a vaccination. 2) The bad news - govt and media goals are not optimal: govt officials' are motivated by lowering their accountability. Say an official decides to cancel the lockdown but he was wrong - people will say he was irresponsible. However, say that official decides to keep the lockdown but was wrong - people will say he was careful. So for an official it's best to keep the lockdown, no matter if it's effective or not. Media's goal is rating, and fear gives you better headlines. It's not only that, since the common media consumers suffer from the lockdown, they really want to read information that tells them that the lockdown is important, and don't want to hear that the lockdown may do more damage than good. So govt and media are dependent on the public opinion, and not so much on the facts. Having said that, so many facts are for liberating the lockdown. Take a look at Belgium, their situation is horrible, much worse than in your country but they have a stricter lockdown, and not only that, but Belgium is also doing worse than Sweden which has minimal restrictions. The numbers no longer support a lockdown. Hopefully the population starts to get aware of that.
From Panama. Salsa fan. 2 o 3 classes a week. Social dancing 1 or twice a week. Going back dancing at the academies might take 6 months with special care. Social dancing maybe a year or so.
Online classes fulfill in some way the need. But looking forward to going to the dance floor again.
Love your channel
Thanks Manuel
I would rate myself as a "9" on the dance fanatic scale. Before the lockdown I did 3-4 classes a week and danced socially once or twice a week.
I don't think anyone will be allowed to contact dance until 2021.
I'm not still dancing, as I dont have access to a partner. I don't like doing online dancing as I have to keep looking at the screen, and I prefer dancing with a partner and following their lead. I dance alone at home to music to make myself happy and stay fit.
I live in Spain and we have the strictest lockdown enforcement compared to other countries.
Hi Mariana, thanks for your response! My nephew lives on Gran Canaria. So I know it is very very strict. Stay strong 🙏🏼
10 on the fanatic scale.... from India.... not dancing salsa at all now because I don’t have a partner... currently taking paid online classes for tap dancing because it doesn’t require a partner. I think it will take a year for the situation to come back to normal.
Hi Jay, love your approach with the tapdancing!
Hi, here's a theory, *it's optimistic from the mathematical/modeling theory, but how it translates to psychology, well, that's not my field.*
First, I am from Israel, a fanatic dancer you'd say, on and off for 20 years now. Israel has a strict lockdown, so no salsa.
So, as for what's optimistic, and I am just a math/cs modelling guy, not a doctor - research papers are coming out from California, Boston, New York and earlier from Milano, all showing that the spread of covid-19 is significant, in the tens of percent points at the very least. This is optimistic in two ways:
1) It means that the diagnosed are only a tiny fraction of all that are sick - this means that mortality is lower - this may affect governments to allow contact sports sooner
2) It means that lockdowns have only had a minor effect on the spread - this means that the damage to economy may not be justified, as the lockdown is inefficient - again it may affect governments to allow contact sports sooner.
So, this is the data from the first randomized samples of antibody testing. However, governments are affected by public opinion as well, and if fear is high, governments may decide to keep the lockdown without any regard to these research papers, to avoid public resistance, as I said, psychology and politics are not my field. However, the math starts to be *very* optimistic, and in my experience, only math wins in the end.
So for what it's worth, my 2c, thanks for your channel, be strong.
I love your point if view and as a matter of fact you might be totally right. Since it are the same governments + media that had been spreading the fear, they will lise face if they have to admit they were wrong. So than vaccinations can bring a great solution. Instead of having to admit that all those lockdowns did not help, they can make a point that lockdowns were necessary till the point of a vaccin.
What do you think?
@@salsaventura Hi,
1) The good news - Vaccination may not be the 1st protection against the virus to come: Statistically, it seems that natural immunity develops for this virus. We simply don't see enough reports of people getting sick again. We should have already heard reports of people getting sick again in the hundreds of thousands, but we are only hearing rumors about maybe a few people that got sick again somewhere in the world, that's all? Every virus has some people that get reinfected, these are people with a deficient immune system, but for this virus to have so little reports of people getting sick again, that means that people DO develop immunity after recovering. This is *major,* as it means that herd immunity is already developing everywhere,. So herd immunity may protect us months before a vaccination.
2) The bad news - govt and media goals are not optimal: govt officials' are motivated by lowering their accountability. Say an official decides to cancel the lockdown but he was wrong - people will say he was irresponsible. However, say that official decides to keep the lockdown but was wrong - people will say he was careful. So for an official it's best to keep the lockdown, no matter if it's effective or not.
Media's goal is rating, and fear gives you better headlines. It's not only that, since the common media consumers suffer from the lockdown, they really want to read information that tells them that the lockdown is important, and don't want to hear that the lockdown may do more damage than good.
So govt and media are dependent on the public opinion, and not so much on the facts.
Having said that, so many facts are for liberating the lockdown. Take a look at Belgium, their situation is horrible, much worse than in your country but they have a stricter lockdown, and not only that, but Belgium is also doing worse than Sweden which has minimal restrictions. The numbers no longer support a lockdown. Hopefully the population starts to get aware of that.