Street Epistemology: Sarah & Kyle | The Reliability of Faith
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Sarah and Kyle base their God belief on how they were raised (60%) and their experiences (40%), but when it comes down to it, faith is required to be 100 percent certain. In this long exchange, we talk about the reliability of faith, and if it was found to be inconsistent, discuss how that discovery might impact the confidence of their God belief going forward.
In the bonus footage, I was surprised to hear Sarah say that I probably could NOT use faith to conclude that a sports team would win the next hundred games. I was expecting her to say that faith WOULD be reliable, which is why I asked for clarification. Perhaps the talk did help them better understand that faith was not as reliable as they had previously thought before our talk.
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Unfortunately some of these people are just gonna go home and think "God tested me today"
I think the general idea is to ask the questions they have never asked themselves. I wish someone had done this to me when I was 19. In my opinion if all they take out of this conversation is "God tested me today" then they are never going to ask or answer these questions. I believe the hope is to lead them into a new thought path with some critical thinking directions.
yea i agree to many its just not possible for them to think outside the little box they live in since they were indoctrinated at a young age probably it would take a lot to even get them to consider that they could be wrong.
I sure hope not
It isn't exactly street epistemology, but I always challenge people to repeat stuff they say about their god, but replace the name god with "fred" or with the phrase "a guy named fred." Sometimes, it puts their words in a helpful perspective and it causes them to reflect on their silliness
but they thought about it
I have a feeling the guy would have slightly different answers without her around
+Jason camenzind I think she is going to have different answers in about a month. Antony planted the proverbial mustard seed. GG
+Jason camenzind
He should have asked the guy first on each question. The guy didn't seem like he would answer in conflict with the girl's answers where I think she would have been fine answering differently than he did.
+Jason camenzind Slightly? His attitude throughout made it seem like the conversation would have been totally different.
Yup. He seemed pretty vaginized.
+John Doe I agree, thought that he was wavering some but then she would give her answer and he would snap back
i really marvel at anthony’s abilities to always ask an appropriate “next question” in order to keep the conversation going in a non threatening way. he has really fine tuned his skills.
Anthony: "Can I just believe in anything and make it true?"
Sarah: "Yeah, I think so"
Kyle: "I believe whatever she says"
"Could i just believe in anything and make it true?"
"Yeah...I think so"
How do you hold in your frustration, Anthony?
I think he holds it in because he is keeping his eyes on the prize. Losing patience would accomplish nothing.
I think he holds it in because he keeps his eyes on the prize. Losing patience would accomplish nothing productive.
I love his face when she says it a couple of times
Or when she said all Gods are true but holds belief in one God
Remaining calm, and without any patience is how almost all things are achieved. Otherwise, keeping Zen practice is one of the best methods that exists. Frustration is an internal creation. If you're often frustrated then you're often creating discomfort within yourself. Become very cool with the Moment and you Can literally kiss frustrations good-bye - and which means you're not holding them. Smiling. This are the practices of Sages.
I really don't like when two people get interviewed. Religion is oftentimes a very social thing and their answers will often get manipulated because one interlocutor will feel the need to express how "religious" he/she is in order to impress the other interlocutor. It still was a very interesting conversation, nonetheless. I just get the feeling that these two - especially since they seem to be dating - influenced each other's answers.
+SailingSeignior You're right, and if it's a couple, the woman is usually the dominant part. It took him more than 20 minutes to express a differing opinion (25:57) - for a few seconds.
+Etothe2iPi "the woman is usually the dominant part" - let's just leave that hanging there.
Etothe2iPi Yeah, the woman seemed to influence him quite a bit. The man also seemed to impact her answers, as well. You can tell when they both look at each other before answering questions. It's as if each of them looks for the approval of the other before answering. You can tell they aren't being quite as honest as they want to be. Couples do this with practically all types of conversations, though. It's as if they don't want to ruffle each other's feathers because it would just start a fight between the two that they would rather not have. Anyone that has been in a relationship knows that feeling.
I think that's fine that couples do that but honesty and openness become key when having discussions with Anthony and I don't think having multiple interlocutors is a good way to achieve those things.
+SailingSeignior
It could well be that two people will influence each other's answers; but they won't influence each other's thoughts. With a bit of luck these two will go away and have a reasoned discussion, and both of them will benefit in later life by having their groundless beliefs questioned.
sometimes ya gotta find Jesus in order to get between some legs.
Anthony's doing his part to help mankind
These two have clearly never been challenged like this. This type of conversation needs to become mainstream. Great interview.
I can't help but get the sense that what is coming from them, and particularly Sarah, is just a stream of consciousness. I think her head is full of religious concepts and catch phrases that she has grown up hearing and she is trying to verbalize these things on the fly. It is obvious that she has never been seriously questioned about her religious precepts or had to explain them to anyone, except another believer, or maybe someone who is amenable to the whole idea of faith. It is fascinating to see Sarah come to some small realization that maybe she hasn't seriously considered everything when it comes to the veracity of her faith. She is still a long, long way from truly questioning it in a serious manner, but I think this is a conversation that she will remember for quite a while.
It is ironic that Sarah has 100% strong faith, yet she didn't have a definition for faith.
She "never even thought about that".
I find it interesting because i am constantly checking and rechecking my beliefs and the reasons i believe them.
I am constantly evolving my ideas and beliefs. I pride myself in the fact that any belief i do hold i can justify with evidence, definitions, and an explanation :)
I find it weird when people hold a strongly held belief yet they struggle to even defend it.
No this is Patrick Well she also admitted that she could be wrong, so try to square that with 100% certainty. 😉
To me, she sounded like someone who considers herself 100% COMMITTED to the idea of belief in God, even if she's not actually 100% confident that the belief is correct. It also seemed like she wasn't letting herself connect the dots between "faith isn't reliable" and "faith in God isn't reliable." Like she was experiencing the cognitive dissonance and maybe even recognizing it, but pushing it from her mind to focus on the belief.
***** good points
Not only is it weird, but I think it's pretty dangerous
I tossed away pride many, many, many years ago..because you hold yourself back with it. Try this: You do something, win something, and you sense "pride" inside. Look back at it 2 years later. Do you still have the same sense of "pride"? Do the words that others said to confirm the "believe" in pride remain? Now, reconsider the same thing a year from then. Is the Pride still there with the same intensity? Is there any weakness in the pride? Passion is stronger than pride and it remains because passion is an inside recognition of self. No one says they are passionate about you. People ask, "Have you found your passion?" Huge differences. If you're passionate about what you do, you will keep that memory of that much stronger than any pride.
Sarah considers a lot more stuff. You could hear that since she did most of the talking. Most people need some nudges before they locate their inner voice, and when they do..they start processing more and challenging stuff more and come to much better conclusions - if they do.
Anthony does a much better job at this than Matt Dillahunty (who becomes angry way too easily..).
19:14 "We've gone in circles here." Yep. Circular reasoning is astounding at times like these.
"Faith is an advantage: because without it how do you know your belief is real."
Sorry, but with faith how do you know your belief is real?
Anthony -- Comparing your late 2015 videos to your early 2014 videos, it's obvious that you've refined your technique.
I recently had the opportunity to talk with three young proselytizers (they approached me), and I was able to have a civil conversation with them, thanks to what I've learned from your videos.
Thank you.
That's great to hear! And thanks. I'm always trying to improve at this. Thanks for watching.
" I base my whole belief on faith" -> what is faith? --> "no idea"
For the rest of her life whenever some one says 'take it on faith' shes going to question it.
Yeahp, that's the point
This is one of the best lines you have ever used "if you can never be right can you never be wrong?" street epistemology at its best as I see it!
craigy paxton Thanks. I'll be releasing the audio only version of this talk as a ('Street Epistemology') podcast in the next few days.
This girl is an epistemological nightmare.
It's been close to a year, I'd be very interested in knowing what she believes now. With the doubt that Anthony gifted her, and time to sit on it, I bet it has changed
HAHAHAAA
She is actually smart . But a clear example of how smart people can be religious . The most important part of her entire ordeal was faith. Once you accrue this high pedestal of importance to faith in your logic system, even after proving the right to you, you cannot be convinced to shift because there is no objective truth for a person who relies on faith as a crutch. A better discussion is with people who actually are Bible literalists or people who think they are the ones that are true and no one else is
"epistemological nightmare"... You mean, like, an idiot?
It’s horrendous. I’m so thankful that I know how to use my brain
Anthony, I absolutely love what you are doing. Watching these videos has had an IMMEDIATE positive influence on my approach in discussing these matters with friends and family who are believers. I intend to continue down that path and really seek to fully employ this kind of method. I'm really impressed with the progress that can be made. So positive and so honest. Thank you X 1,000,000.
If I were in a plane crash and ended up being the only survivor, I'd be asking what kind of a God would choose to save only myself and allow a few hundred other people to perish?
That's pretty much how I look at every situation where a God "intervenes" to save *certain* people, in everyday life, be it accidents, or mass shootings, or sickness.
That 2-person dynamic just plagues this entire interview. It makes it more interesting because neither has entrenched themselves in the beliefs to where it's threatening for them to critically think, but honesty wains at moments. Kudos to you for pulling it off as well as you did, Anthony.
People very often think that stating *what* they think explains *why* they think it.
Well done sir! Again.
I admire your patience and your keeping the pace of the conversation steady.
The moment where they where thinking about faith was beautiful.
+Ethan Sutton yep, it's at about 13:00
"I've never even thought about that." One of my favorite phrases to hear.
They were scared to let go of their faith, absolutely terrified. Wow!
I see it as quite normal Think how hard it has to be to give up on a security blanket.
You've been told by everyone you know that there is a God who loves you and cares about you. This God has a plan for you and everyone else, but thinks you are special. They say God can help you get through anything imaginable and if you believe with all your heart, you will never die and will live for eternity in paradise with everyone you ever cared about.
Meanwhile, if you question that belief in God in any way, you risk being damned for all eternity, ostracized by all you are close to, and the only reward would be intellectual honesty.
Hell yeah they are scared to question that belief. It has been ingrained in them for years.
I love your videos but they increasingly give me a sense of dread, knowing what shallow and non-critical thinking people are inheriting the earth.
+Raoul Borans Most people hardly give philosophy thought when growing up, and they accept what their parents teach them. To take on a subject such as religion, a topic which has defense mechanisms built in such as faith and un-testable claims, and manage to switch positions is a real task. Anthony just gets them critically thinking about the topic so that they may begin to unravel why they believe what they do.
As someone explained to me and I'm paraphrasing: Religion is full of a bunch of little stories to put your mind at ease about the really tough questions, so that you may just put them in your back-pocket and not give them thought. Atheism opens up all those existential questions and lets you figure it out.
People aren't stupid in any way for not critically thinking about this topic, but they just have different interests. Good thing we have people like Anthony to bring attention to their wrongful beliefs.
+Raoul Borans I don't think you need to be more worried than before. The fact is that this style of thought - epistemology - is not something people normally think about. We're the weirdos for thinking about it.
Use of this thought-discipline, and it's spread, I think is kinda like technology. The world is better with the Internet, and better medicine, and more efficient energy systems, and epistemology. And things will continue to get better, judging by the spread of all these things.
Before people had the internet/etc, people weren't dumb - Just lacking a great tool. And people who haven't reviewed their belief systems with epistemology aren't non-critical thinking people either. They just haven't had a spotlight shined in the right place yet.
+Raoul Borans If its any comfort I'm fairly young and very interested in philosophy and developing ones own morals and opinions. But ya, seeing a lot of people around me is kinda depressing :/
+Miles Kelley
_"The fact is that this style of thought - epistemology - is not something people normally think about. We're the weirdos for thinking about it."_
That's one thing, but we are talking about university students here aren't we? Surely those guys would have had to have some kind of methods course? I mean, I'm not familiar with .. did that guy say he was studying "business" or something like that, but surely there is some element of making rational decisions based on things you observe in the world there as well, so they'd need at least a primer on epistemology.
It wouldn't have been taught as epistemology and they wouldn't be taught to think how do we know what's true and what isn't and it would be very rare for them to then turn it around on to other beliefs that they may have.
Faith undefined.
Vital component.
Reflection moment.
Well, you certainly gave them a lot to think about! That's my favorite part of your videos, the moments where they acknowledged that they are going to think about what transpired in your conversation, rather than dismiss it outright. That's amazing!
Did I just witness two pre contemplatives moving to contemplatives? If not, it was close. Great intervention Anthony!
Wow. People are being too hard on these 2. Theyd never thought of these things before, and we are watching them work through it.
I think in most religions it is virtuous to say you are at the 100% point. doubt is discouraged even if evidence only gets you to 60%. people take a leap of faith even from 10% to 100%. it is encouraged in the Scriptures about doubting thomas.
+stephen yarde They also believe a vengeful celestial dictator is policing them for thought crimes... so it's a bit like asking North Koreans how much they love Kim Jong Un.
stephen yarde That’s what I was thinking too.
They are indoctrinated and conditioned to regularly remind themselves of their 'faith', else damnation and hell - not unlike Scientologists fearing the wrath of their congregation.
If Sarah wasn't there Kyle would have given a different interview.
Yup, religious or not, a cute girl will make a guy say or believe anything,🙄
I see now the issue with dual interviews. Their answers reinforce each other and it's difficult for many people to answer honestly unless theyre in a one-on-one
Knightfall8 Yes, exactly. This video shows that tendency for people to agree with the other.
Knightfall8 have you heard the joke that you should take two Mormons on your fishing trip, because if you take one, they’re drink all your booze. 🤣
This somehow reminds me of George Carlin interview about people in large groups
I find it interesting that so many (if not all!) of the people you talk to genuinely enjoy the discussions. They seem to relish the opportunity to deeply consider their beliefs; it's probably something they haven't really done before.
Sarah particularly had a clear dissonance between "unreliable faith" and "100% confidence". Interestingly, despite acknowledging that she could be wrong, she pretty much admitted that she believes because she wants to believe.
Hopefully they won't go down the road of that other Kyle, of fearing doubt.
In a way, yes, but I still think we might be seeing mostly the interviews that worked out. What is interesting to me is that it's all so surprising to them at their age to hear such questions and issues. It seems they never had any exposure to anything resembling philosophy in their studies. It is good to know that most seem to appreciate such discussions though.
Cudo's Sir. This is a difficult situation to approach. This vid was a classic - great job. It does leave me perplexed how college educated people can be so disengaged with their own beliefs and ideas. Even when they realize the disconnect - there is a protective mechanism that seems to through rationale to the side and the dogma takes over. Very interesting. Keep up the good work.
This was SO good. You really managed to get them to think. I also liked how you introduced the 100% scale later in the conversation and then immediately asked where they started and where they were now. They appeared to give it a bit more thought compared to the times you introduce it to people at the very beginning and mention it later. Might want to try that a few more times to see if you notice any difference in how often people claim 100% both times.
Anthony you are amazing ! this is truly mind changing for them i think, you shook their faith
Amazing discussion! Gotta Love Anthony. SE is a great way to learn about people’s beliefs.
"I truly believe . . . if you believe 100% in what you believe in, you can never be wrong." (10:20)
Wow. I believe I'm fabulously rich and good looking. Also, I have a ski chalet in Switzerland.
I believe you will invite me there !
I have re-watched this video 3 times in as many years and it remains one of my favorites. Watching this couple really struggling with their cognitive dissonance in an honest way. Its like watching animals in wild dealing/coping with a novel encounter. Clearly they've never examined their beliefs this closely. It reminds me of me, but w/o a guide helping me to reason it out. Thanks.
I love the way they get so much more curious and engaged at the end
Great video! How representative is this of all the conversations you have?
I'm amazed how long this interview lasted! This shows the power of listening and being heard out without debate. It required the entire process before they freely expressed that anything is true with belief. Even if belief/faith is a terrible way to know something is true. Their body language and awkward smiles betrayed their insistence on 100% belief.
How far off is this from best possible outcome for SE?
I'm glad I watched this entire interview! This manner of engagement is universally effective. We can't help wanting a quick solution and fast end to a debate. Nothing about this was drawn out, it was perfectly timed.
It's so wholesome hearing someone say they'll think about their methods to reach their belief after an interview. I can't think of a better outcome to street epistemology.
This might be the best secular exchange yet. Fantastic conversation Anthony.
16:50 The guy on the right.....he’s starting to get it. Starting to realize the problems with his definitions. It’s a beautiful thing to see such realizations happen.
It's like they have no idea what they're saying. It's so awesome to see you ask all the right questions.
26:29 She seems to have missed the fact you suggested a football team might win the World Series for the next thousand years. As far as I know, football teams don't win baseball games. She still seems to think it's a valid belief, as long as you *WANT* to believe it. (Head-scratchingly bizarre.)
It seems like he parroted every one of her responses. I think it's much better to interview them separately.
Man, this is such an excellent interview. Great listening skills brother.
Thanks
Excellent interview, well done!Matthew
What gets me the most out of watching all of these interviews is that the believers have never actually asked themselves these questions, it blows my mind that they can arrive at a position without ever questioning the validity of it and method of how they got there and if it's a reliable way.
And we get to the circular reasoning of "You have to have faith to have faith that your faith is true"...
I also found it interesting that they both said the Hindu could be more correct or they could be more correct, yet both still maintained 100% certainty. If they are open to the possibility they are mistaken, by definition they are not 100% certain.
I love this outcome. I'm wondering if maybe Sarah thought later, "You know, a lot of people come out of coma without the kind of affect it had on me." What I mean is that some folks come out of coma who are not religious minded folks. I love the ones you do with younger folks. You can see them really thinking about the questions you have presented. It is nice to see that even when you can tell that they are questioning themselves, that it is O.K.. It is very refreshing to see this happen to young people who don't yet have a religious agenda if you will. But I'm sure it has a whole lot to do with your approach! The honesty that you exude and everything about the way you are going about this is second to none man. I'm a better man for having found your videos and we need more people like you. Thank you!
Hi Anthony. Great stuff. At the end of an interview like this I would love to hear you ask a 1 to 100 scale question about how reliable faith is. Love these talks. Thanks
I wish i had your patience anthony! great conversation! nice kids too
I think that one useful, additional thing to say when asked things like "What if you were the only survivor of an airplane crash?" at 31:11, would be "If my having survived the crash is an indication that some entity was looking out for me, what should we think about all the people who died in the crash? Who was looking out for them?". A counter-question like that, while it may not prove anything per se, would still be "safe" for the interlocutors and it may also provide extra food for thought to them, especially in a postlude context.
(I know I'm commenting a super old video but I'm a long-time follower so I re-watch your videos from time to time. I'm also sure you've already thought/considered the simple thing I've just said, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to say it anyway. Keep up the great work, Anthony, and thank you. Greetings from Florence!)
A masterpiece, Mr Magnabosco.
Their age matches their opinions. It showed that they never thought about their beliefs but took them for granted and repeated them out of indoctrination, hence the unreasonable conclusions they arrived at. I think this conversation was beneficial to them.
This is pure gold my friend
This is beautiful! We could be both 100% right about believing different things about the same source of creation... How frustrating is this kind of comforting and bias reasoning when we hear it. The hard thing of simply saying "i don't know..."
I feared for the strength of their relationship at a few points, it got a little tense. LOL
i wish i had the same patience as you i do not and the people i typically talk to are not nearly as reasonable as this.
Good video, as usual. I would offer an alternate response to Sarah's question about a near-death experience: "Is it not more prudent to simply label that as unexplained until I know the explanation? 1000 years ago humans couldn't explain magnetism; did that make it a divine force?"
Why yes!
Another great video! I want to learn this!
Anthony should take credit for this one. It must be rewarding to see people work through the questions on their own without being told what to think. I can almost see the neurons firing as they attempt justify an intuitive position under external critique.
Texans have a history of being incredibly religious. The lack of thinking is also evident looking at a history of Texas's laws.
The lack of critical thinking is truly scary.
Thank you Anthony for your work, it truly is invaluable. Teaching others how to think it such a great tool which will hopefully help little by little over time.
Thanks for your work! Try to not get discouraged in doing good work
But Austin is different
Great interview, some very interesting responses.
I really enjoyed this exchange.
It's easy to despise these kids, but we were all there once (maybe when we were 5). Figuring out reality takes decades, and it only happens if you WANT to figure out reality. If you're happy with faith, you have no motivation to change. Congrats to Anthony for his patience.
I don't know why you would despise them. They were completely friendly people. Their way of believing things is a jumbled mess if that's what you're talking about.
That is what I'm talking about.
I don't despise anyone as individuals. I do feel however that the US is a hotbed of alienation , bringing up a new generation of superstitious people without let up. Try to get elected to any position in the US as an atheist. Tell me about the separation of religion and state again?
13:30 is the perfect example of growing up without questioning your own beliefs.
To be asked what faith means when you've said 3 times that it is the primary way that they can be 100% certain, and then saying they have no idea and that they've never thought about it...makes me wonder what comes to mind when they say faith WITHOUT thinking about what it actually means.
Did they just use the word because every time they used it, people accepted it? "faith! oh yes, key word, no more questions needed"
not ragging on them. But it does show why questioning your own beliefs are important day-to-day
Really good one going to use this in Birmingham UK this weekend
Love how they were by the end. Great outcome!
A little bit of begging the question there at 21 minutes. Just a bit of constructive criticism, Anthony. But, you are still doing tremendous work. I have been watching for about a year. Love your work. Keep it up!
This is exactly why I wish over 30% of time in school would be about thinking how to think, not just teach facts (based on our best effort at least). Philosophy of science, epistemology, logical fallacies, all that.
At 26 minutes, the mirroring finally breaks down. Until this point, they were both determined to be "in simpatico". Sarah was biting the bullet: Believing in something, the simple act of believing alone, can make something true. And Kyle started to disagree with that. And up until this point, Sarah had been mostly leading the conversation, and Kyle was mirroring Sarah. The cracks were showing before this point, but its only after it that both are more willing to concede that both faith and the mere act of believing alone are not as reliable as they once thought...I'm surprised that the question of "Have you ever believed in something that turned out not to be true?" didn't come several minutes earlier...but great job on this one! Doing a young dating couple had to be tough... Bonus footage was great, perhaps the best part! Loved how Anthony used the same scale and put himself at a positive 3-5%. It was a great way to answer the question!
That was so well done.
1:42 "There is somebody out there higher than us." Yes, and his name is Snoop Dog. It was low fruit but I had to do it.
I personally think it's Matt Dillahunty, I get my morals from him
@@Sammie551 I get my morals from Ben Shapiro. When Im feeling starved for some intellectual stimulation, I turn to Dave Rubin!
I was really hoping you would ask them how much of their 100% was dependent on faith because they both said that without it it's not very believable. Overall one of the best videos I've seen.
RJizzyJizzle This one was a couple of years old so it might not include a lot of the good questions I tend to ask these days.
Sarah & Kyle: You need faith to make your beliefs true. Faith is an advantage!
Anthony: What is faith?
Sarah & Kyle: Wow that's hard to answer!
This interview was beautifully conducted by Maestro Anthony.
2 is more difficult.
The upside is that they have each other to keep the questions going.
They probably will be talking about this conversation.
if you believe it 100% ....then you can never be wrong.... . I had high hopes for Sarah. face palm in the middle, but hopeful in the end. "Is faith the best way to determine if something it true?" Had to write that question down to remember. Like the way to pie charted their belief.
I listen to this on my headphones at work and just smile.
Beaste Meauxde Cool. FYI many of my videos have been converted to podcast episodes--search for Street Epistemology and enjoy.
Anthony Magnabosco will do. Thanks for what you're doing.
has used 'faith' all her life but never thought about what it means. she seemed sweet though.
Sarah needs to see the lecture "faith: pretending to know what you don't know. " it really explains the difference between faith and hope
These two are astounding
These videos are awesome.
Best conversation yet
Wow, you made them think deeper than all of their professors combined!
I like how you are fluid in your believe in God in between 1 to 5 percent in deferent days. And I like it so much more compared to 0 sure or 100% sure
I love dual interviews sometimes, when they have opposite reactions, like at 25:34. Anthony asks, "Does just believing in something make the belief true," and Kyle immediately starts shaking his head 'no' while Sarah jumps in with "it can..."
Joseph Weter Yeah, that is one of the neat things about dual talks like this.
@@magnabosco210 And you warned them about it, pretty smart
Great interviews.
This may be my favorite so far.
xrateduser What specifically did you find yourself liking about it?
A few things, a lot of times, I don't see a visible shift in the people you talk to. However this time, I could see them "thinking" if you will. They seemed like they wanted more from you because you struck a cord. Almost like when a magician does a trick, the people almost always go "HOW'd YOU DO THAT?!"
Other than that, she was easy on the eyes, and they are both super sweet (or so it seems)
My question to you is whats not to like? :P either way, love your stuff.
not only do they do it to themselves, there happy about it! this is genius Peter boghossian is a genius
The look on his face when she says I think you can believe things true....
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You find some of the nicest interlocutors. These people are so smiley and nice seeming.
Have you considered asking someone who feels their god helped them through a situation, if it's possible it was actually another god, say Ganesh, or maybe even a benevolent ancestor that helped them? And how would they know the difference?
I love how she says, even though i see things in a new perspective and people open new ideas to her she still believes. Pretty much sums it up right there.
I had a similar discussion with my father in law who is a pastor and i asked. If there was anything that if we're proven to be true would prove his belief false?
I explained clearly what i meant by the question and gave him an example so he fully understood the question and his answer was still 'no'. So he's basically saying there's nothing that could prove his belief wrong and even if there was he'd reject it and still go on believing, but at the same time likes to claim he's open minded, figure that one out.
90% of the conversation i thought that leads nowhere, but the last question was perfect and has done something to them ... at least i hope it has :)