ARH #1: Mr.Beat & Voting
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2019
- Myself and Mr.Beat talk about voting in the UK and USA and put the world to rights!
Big thanks to Mr.Beat for being my first guest. I hope to improve my interviewing skills
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Mr. Beat's awesome channel! ruclips.net/user/iammrbeat
Thanks for watching everyone. Interviewing is definitely a skill I haven't quite mastered yet. I hope to improve with time and have other fantastic guests on the channel.
This was pretty good, I've watched much worse!
Direct democracy, and referenda specifically, doesn't work well in contemporary society without a way to ensure people are fully informed. Legalised marijuana sounds positive however if the UK had referenda for everything we'd still have capital punishment.
That’s the appeal of your channel. Authenticity is refreshing 😎
The capital punishment point is very true. I'm really torn on referendums. On the one hand they can be used for positive reforms that politicians can't seem to back, on the other hand there are pretty scary views wildly held by the average citizen.
I really appreciate you saying that, I don't ever want to be pretentious or take myself too seriously. I'm just a guy with a camera who happens to like history and stuff.
Oh man. You left the clapping part in. You silly goose. Thanks for having me on. This was a lot of fun! :D
Mr Beat and Stefo , 2 awesome history guys
Been a fan of Mr. Beat awhile and just discovered your channel recently, so I was really pleased to see you had a podcast episode together! Would love to see another exchange between ya'll, something something ancient/modern history or something like that. Hell yeah.
Your videos are so natural , makes you seem like just and avrg guy into history , and that realness is the best , such a chnage to regular history guys
I am literally just an average guy who likes history
I just make him do 50 pushups a day. 💪
ONLY 50!?
@@StefanMilo yep! I started a 50 push up a day challenge last year with Matt. Of course I got a shoulder injury but he continued. He most likely has done about 18,000 pushups last year.
@@shannonbeat You ROCK and I know you are a big help to Matt and his channel
Rachael Marie Newport Thanks! They keep me busy.
A very interesting discussion, which I thoroughly enjoyed.
Here in Canada, we have a voting system similar to England. We have ridings (areas with candidates both federally and provincially), most candidates are representative of a party but some will run as an independent. So we vote on our local candidates and the winner gets a seat in parliament. The party with the most seats forms the government, but party's can throw in together to have the most seats and form the government. Perspectives are different, and while we really mark our ballet for the local rep, some make that choice on the basis of party affiliation, some the leader of the party and some on the basis of the qualities of the local candidates. Personally, I think that the riding candidate is very important. This is the person who we can contact with our concerns. I am lucky, our MP and MPP will both get back to you if you send them an email. Our riding is very conservative which works for me, but in my younger days I did vote for our centrist party, but in the last number of years they have moved so far left, I had to move right to bring some balance and fiscal restraint. So we have lost the political center here in Canada which is a bit of a shame. I think this trend is happening in other counties as well.
Great talk 😁
23:12 - *Your feel about Referendums is fairly commom phenomenon:* It is used to legimitate awful things because people isn't accustomed to have participation in direct democratic mechanisms so they can be manipulated with populist rhetoric. the only time they get the chance.
"Remotely Human" great band name
Three voting systems in Scotland - First past the post in UK elections (MPs), Transferrable vote Scottish elections (MSPs), Proportional representation (Councillors).
Age for voting in Scottish elections is about to drop to 14. We already have voting for non-UK citizens.
You're welcome to move to Scotland, you seem pretty rational; although we do have a history of resisting the Roman Empire !
Australia has proportional representation, not first last the post.
We also have compulsory voting. 👍
Yes it works down here.😁
Minor parties do get a say.
Cool
Mr.Beats needs a bath.
Many Americans like to argue that if we had health care like other nations, the quality of care would go down. But what they don't realize, the quality of care is already down...as you can't see the Drs for multiple different reasons. This is what availability means. And what those people are really saying is... it won't be as convenient for them....to be seen about something probably pretty minor and shouldn't be there for anyways.
25:50 - But he didn't read the bill...
Voting age, 18.minimum.
Yes i raged on Mr Beat for the Electoral College , cause hilary would have won
Hillary should be in prison for Libya alone, not to mention racketeering and profiteering..
The UK's AV referendum was a choice between the current awful system and one slightly less bad, there's nothing proportional about AV, as a consequence it had lukewarm support amongst those that support reform. Another reason for its failure is one coalition party weaseling out of backing reform.
Personally I support a multi member single transferable vote system.
Yeah I'd agree, certainly at the moment our current system is in dire need of reform. I'd be in favour of a fully federal UK. I fear without major reform Scotland won't be with us much longer. Which is a shame because despite being born and raised in England, I consider myself British and I'm proud to be associated with the Scots.
@@StefanMilo I quite agree with all of that.
No av is better because proportional representation systems tends to make small parties more powerful and make the government unstable. Look at Israël.
@@britboi8513 That really depends on the system chosen and at what level the threshold is set. The reason that smaller parties tend to become more powerful is that first past the post or plurality elections favour the largest parties and discriminate against others, a proportional system can only make a party as powerful as its vote share allows.
Germany uses an additional member system and that works. I favour single transferable vote in multi-member constituencies as used in Ireland.
Matthew Doye I’m still more of a fan of av because even mmp and stv forces the moderate parties to ally them selfs with extremism to cobble together a majority and makes the pm owe complicated favours.
17:19 - That's awful!
We are a representative republic. Please clarify.
Aren't those representatives chosen democratically though? I think representative democracy is the most fitting term.
@@StefanMilo Check out Article 4, section four of The Constitution. It says ."..... shall guarantee to every state in the union a republican form of government...." also, in the Pledge of Allegiance we pledge to the flag and to the Republic for which it stands. There are a lot of semantics tossed about on democracy and we simply are not a democracy. You missed your chance to bring up Egalitarian hunter gatherers, no mob rule back then. We really messed things up when we were tricked into thinking grain was a great thing and by growing grains we became more healthy and productive thereby having the ability to have more kids, right more kids to harvest more grain, vicious circle, but it allowed for more "slaves". I though the conversation about George Washington having more slaves gave him more power in his vote. Then the talk of 16 years old voting came up sure we need more slaves to vote. There is a correlation there somewhere if you think about it. I don't vote any more, and have been the brunt of a few that really pulled out the shame factor on me. Here is George Carlin on voting, truth in humor, such as it is. As you watch it think about who our sitting President is. I am looking forward to more of these interview/talks, I hope my disagreement doesn't come across in an negative way, it keeps us thinking.
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@@downeastprimitiveskills7688 the pledge of allegiance was written by the guy who created the nazi salute...
@@moodist1er That salute is because the person you are saluting is such a bright being you have to shield your eye when you look upon them.
@@downeastprimitiveskills7688 it was still created for nazis, so.. Yeah
Guys screwed up with Brexit.
American politics. Booo!
I stopped watching after beats called America a democratic republic. Wrong immediately. We are a Constitutional Republic. You'd do well to remember that.