This is some serious insight. I am praying for that kind of relationship with other saints. I think it is impossible to walk in the light at this level if you don't have people in your life that you have walked with a long time who you know love you. Thank God Kris does... may the rest of us connect to the body in such a healthy way.
Thank you Kris for expressing the fruit of a healthy human trust-abundant relationship which can only come from a healthy Divine trust-abundant relationship.The manifested unconditional love makes for the best soil to grow these relationships in. What a great example you are of this.
How many hyper-religious people have you talked to that say that they KNOW God's Word and know His voice? Yet it's evident that they're dealing with pride and arrogance. It's been two for me just this week. I tried to reach them several times with scripture and a call for them to ask God. Yeah, that's a hard wall to crack. Especially if they have initials behind their names. Sometimes it's the bluntness of a trusted friend or family member that can make that very crack. Just enough to turn our heart to true humilty to seek our Heavenly Father. My two cents.
I would never have found you only for looking up what modernism means....everything you say is so logic and understandable and I know where you are coming from. I had a vision of Jesus in my local church I told the priests there they ignored me. He was sad and there was an angel kneeling to one side. I have dreams too visions of the future. When I was a child I used to dream of a warehouse of children screaming and was on fire. I did not understand this until I had the referendum in Ireland where they wanted to bring in abortion. So I was on the streets trying to tell people its going to be crazy and its mind control of people where I see in another dream they will be mind controlled by a source and it is bad. love your videos and I have shared them. well done for being so honest.
I would like to know if the people that write these comments know the fruit of the spirit also I wonder why they could continue to tune in and listen to each message because their spirits getting fed and their brains are just too ignorant to figure it out. Tell me why would you listen just to talk trash that’s a spirit right daemonic spirit the spirit of confrontation that doesn’t come from God where do you think that comes from buddy? standing up for the truth because I love the word I get from Kris Vallotton it’s change my life. Literally I was lost or pressed addicted and now I’m free so give it a rest please or be Convicted up to you buddy
looking at these comment some of you people that are so quick to point the false teacher finger better regroup. this man has been,walking with God along time and has very obviously had a close walk with him and learned many great things that you do not understand and that is exactly what happens when tje holy spirit teaches you. the bible teaches a lot and is our bread but the Lord himself doesnt fit into your box there's more to him and if you don't walk with him and allow your mind to be stretches you'll never know the great and mighty things he wants you to know that you dont understand.
Wow, this is a profound teaching! I definitely need to take this to heart and work on finding people in my life who can speak this kind of truth to me.
I thought the way to stay put of deception is to know the word of God and trust the Lord more than you lean on your own understanding. Trusting people gets me into a bunch of trouble although i do need another set of eyes.
Good scripture to point out brother. Now I don't think the message of mr. Vallotton necessarily contradicts Paul, rather I think Gal 1:8 adds on or brings more nuance to this message. I think the speaker would agree to put it like this: If someone tells you something specific about you or your life that you don't agree is true, then it's possible you are in deception - UNLESS what the person (or angel or voice) tells you is against scripture. Does that make sense?
One day I went into the church to say the rosary I did not want to stay for the mass I was stuck by both sides by elderly ladies so I was meant to be there to listen to the gospel and it was trying to tell me not to worry for God hears and sees you. I started to cry and I left so when I went into my car I saw the devil in the tree in the form of a snakes head. I actually thought I was going crazy but the tree itself has a winding branch but the head of the snake is never there so that was worrying.
You just changed the subject with your comment. The topic Kris is addressing is deception. He explains how the Spirit wisdom will operate to destroy pride & arrogance in particular situations between believers. I know I've been deceived & warned by a trusted loved one, but didn't respond. Much heartache & regret would have been avoided walking in this simple solution. That's some good word
It makes sense in the specific circumstance that there are very very close friends/family/mentor/ relationships that are in your inner circle that have some authority in your life. To the point where when they speak into your life it should make you stop, think and weigh. It doesn’t mean your own opinion is irrelevant, hopefully. Just that someone in your life should be able to speak to you when you are in a situation or mind set that needs a readjustment. Kriss took some advice that he received into prayer and asked the Lord what was going on. That is how you weigh it
I agree God uses people, but They also didn't have The Bible with all the books written either back then. So Most of Gods Truth wasn't written yet. But ultimately continuing in Gods truth is what sets one free.
@King J-dub I do gather with other believers, and I hear what they say, but sadly enough not many exhort, but Who put John on an Island by himself? Was He not alone, Only with The Spirit of Christ. What I'm saying is if you cant find other believers who speak the Truth in Love then we Have the Holy Ghost to help us, and "lead us into all truth"
@King J-dub lol, I gotcha, but still it happened, and please dont think that I dont fellowship, I get excited around other believers who really love Jesus, I light up when I talk to others about The Lord, and I do tell others to find a good church, but even those are hard to find now sadly enough, I have gone to many churches and I hear more about mans opinion that God's Word, what you say is true and I never argue The word of God, If Gods says it then it is so, but I do prefer The KJV though, it's more accurate.
I think a little addition I would make to the statement "trust people more than you trust yourself", is to trust "Christ" in that person, more than you trust yourself. But the true test is if what someone tells you, brings you to peace with God......... "But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere."James 3:17
He's talking to Christians who are living in and with Christ. He even exemplifies that very premise in how the revelation comes. If your heart is hearing the heart of the message, it's a given.
The way to stay out of deception is: 1. Read and study the Scriptures so that you can rightly divide the word (that last phrase in is the bible) 2. The Spirit of Truth is the Holy Spirit and He will lead you into ALL TRUTH (that's also in the Bible) 3. Have one or two God Fearing, God obeying friends who know how to righly divide the word and who can discern (Godly Counsel). 4. Have brothers and sisters in Christ around you and allow them to give you feedback on your actions, behaviours, attitudes. Be accountable and be humble. (1 and 2) The word is your foundation coupled with the Spirit to lead and guide you into truth - right living. (3) You tell these people when your spirit discerns evil or deception and they will keep you accountable in your seeking the Lord so you are obliged to follow through what you are picking up in your Spirit, and how is God speaking to you. Here is an example: You sense that the teaching you receive is off, but you do not know why. Then, in your relationship with the Lord, the Holy Spirit unfolds understanding and wisdom so that you can test what you sense and determine if you are hearing from God. That stuff about arrogance and pride and trusting someone to tell you - well that's all well and good, but you should seek feedback from people at work, at home, in the Church, on the sporting field, etc. Humility is the key. Regarding signs and wonders, ask yourself: 1. In the manifestation from God, or another source? 2. Is the manifestation in harmony with Scripture? (All Scripture is given by inspiration from God; God never contradicts himself) Jesus warned us in Mt 24:4, 5 11 24 - us of deception - take a look at these Scriptures and do not treat these warning lightly. These things WILL happen. Deception is the greatest danger in the end times. Signs and wonders do not determine truth; truth is already determined and established (John 17:17; Ps 119:89) We need to have a love for the truth (Thessalonians). There are both true and lying signs and wonders. We need to discern all, but if you do not receive the love of the truth, you will be deceived; God even sends a strong delusion for those who have pleasure in unrighteousness.TEST IT AND EXAMINE IT - DO NOT OPEN YOURSELF UP WITHOUT TESTING THINGS FIRST. (Word) Proverbs 26 - He who trusts in his own heart is a fool. The heart will actively deceive you (Jeremiah 17:9) - Your heart is not deceived - your heart deceives you - The word in Hebrew is active. Don't rely on your own heart to determine truth. Scripture is the measure and source of truth. Finally watch out for mixture - it leads to confusion and division. Don't be passive and don't be neutral. Make sure the word of God is preached in purity and in power and repentance (refreshing is preceded by repentance).
You can't just trust people because false prophets will come from within the church masquerading as servants of righteousness. You don't trust people in order to stay out of deception, you read and memorize scripture and test the spirits against scripture to see if they are true. Notice that this message is not based around any scripture at all; not one Bible verse is used for support. The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?(Jer 17:9) Imagine what Job would have done if he would have listened to his friends.
He never said to just trust people. Actually, he said that he only trusts a few people to speak into his life. You can't j ust be an island and have no one to trust. That is a deception in itself because God's word is very clear that if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we will have fellowship with one another. He wasn't talking about some stranger coming up to him and speaking this to him. He was talking about his best friend of 25 years. Big difference.
+Sarah Curtright Guess you missed the spiritual truth throughout the Bible that speaks of seeking wise counsel...When you look for demons you find demons...
Amen Sister, This preacher is devoid of any anointing. Why? because he is preaching another Jesus and a false Gospel. Run the other way from these men who "twist the scripture" to their own destruction.
he also uses the word sex in message. does he mean go out and have sex. Where is the context. Really people. And my comments are weather or not I agree, but simple english literature 101. People ever heard of line upon line, principles. Good Lord Jesus Help us to get out of stupid.
Well he got it right when he said that when we're deceived, we won't know it, because that is what deceived means. HOWEVER, Paul told the Galatians:- "8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Gal.1:8) So under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, Paul says something very different. Surely Paul would be someone we could trust? Or a Heavenly angel? Apparently not, according to the Bible.
That doesn't even make sense. How does preaching a totally different gospel apply to being humble enough to be corrected? Doesn't iron sharpen iron? Doesn't Matt 18 talk about correcting our brethren with truth? Are you so perfect that you're never prideful and in need of a brother who will love you enough to risk the cost of the relationship to rescue you? John 15:13 - _"Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends."_
Where does it say in the word to trust people? I know in Jeremiah 17 it says cursed is the man who puts his trust in man and blessed who puts their trust in God
Doesn't iron sharpen iron? Aren't we supposed to confess our sins one to one another? Doesn't Matt 18 have a procedure to deal with our brethern in sin?
It's called heavy Shepherding Ezekiel 34 is clear. People need to see that this man is affiliated with the Shepherds we stay away from. There's real cheese in the rat trap
Unfortunately you can't see the Elephant of deception in your prophecies a nd The Bethel church movement .Please get into the word and not your lala land of prophecy .
As if friends are the authority, not the Lord or His Word. This guy is really bad. His video on the supposed exorcism he conducted was extremely unbiblical and phoney.
+Jon Howard I can see what you mean, and I fully agree with you. I don't think Kris was saying that friends supercede the word, but that we need to surround ourselves with people who we can trust, knowing that they know His Word.
Austin Morris OK and you seem to follow him, hope I didn't offend you. I don't know that much about him, just that another video of his really rubbed my spirit the wrong way.
May I humbly advise you also consider that this is a 9 minute snippet out of a full teaching session at their Ministry School, and not an entire sermon. Kris did point out that God's Word is the final authority and should be the first place we go to as Christians. The 9 minutes here are expounding upon and illustrating in practicality, not replacing, the message and meaning of God's Word.
This is some serious insight. I am praying for that kind of relationship with other saints. I think it is impossible to walk in the light at this level if you don't have people in your life that you have walked with a long time who you know love you. Thank God Kris does... may the rest of us connect to the body in such a healthy way.
Thank you Kris for expressing the fruit of a healthy human trust-abundant relationship which can only come from a healthy Divine trust-abundant relationship.The manifested unconditional love makes for the best soil to grow these relationships in. What a great example you are of this.
Wowww this is it. This is humility and discipleship
Fantastic word. I've never heard that kind of insight before. Thanks for uploading.
The best way to avoid deception is knowing the voice of God through his word.
How many hyper-religious people have you talked to that say that they KNOW God's Word and know His voice? Yet it's evident that they're dealing with pride and arrogance.
It's been two for me just this week. I tried to reach them several times with scripture and a call for them to ask God.
Yeah, that's a hard wall to crack. Especially if they have initials behind their names.
Sometimes it's the bluntness of a trusted friend or family member that can make that very crack. Just enough to turn our heart to true humilty to seek our Heavenly Father.
My two cents.
This was so good..thank you..
I would never have found you only for looking up what modernism means....everything you say is so logic and understandable and I know where you are coming from. I had a vision of Jesus in my local church I told the priests there they ignored me. He was sad and there was an angel kneeling to one side. I have dreams too visions of the future. When I was a child I used to dream of a warehouse of children screaming and was on fire. I did not understand this until I had the referendum in Ireland where they wanted to bring in abortion. So I was on the streets trying to tell people its going to be crazy and its mind control of people where I see in another dream they will be mind controlled by a source and it is bad. love your videos and I have shared them. well done for being so honest.
I would like to know if the people that write these comments know the fruit of the spirit also I wonder why they could continue to tune in and listen to each message because their spirits getting fed and their brains are just too ignorant to figure it out. Tell me why would you listen just to talk trash that’s a spirit right daemonic spirit the spirit of confrontation that doesn’t come from God where do you think that comes from buddy? standing up for the truth because I love the word I get from Kris Vallotton it’s change my life. Literally I was lost or pressed addicted and now I’m free so give it a rest please or be Convicted up to you buddy
Bethel is apostate.
Too true.
looking at these comment some of you people that are so quick to point the false teacher finger better regroup. this man has been,walking with God along time and has very obviously had a close walk with him and learned many great things that you do not understand and that is exactly what happens when tje holy spirit teaches you. the bible teaches a lot and is our bread but the Lord himself doesnt fit into your box there's more to him and if you don't walk with him and allow your mind to be stretches you'll never know the great and mighty things he wants you to know that you dont understand.
nicole burgess the thing is, it's a compliment as most churches, Jesus would be called a heretic too?
Esoteric
No your decieved. Period. Bethel is apostate.
@@israeljacob7333 you've put that comment throughout this video. Seriously, I doubt you know what it means.
Wow, this is a profound teaching! I definitely need to take this to heart and work on finding people in my life who can speak this kind of truth to me.
Kris Vallotton THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT WORD! BROKE THE YOKE OF CONFUSION OFF MY MIND,AND KICKED THE DECEIVING SPIRITS OUT THE DOOR!
I thought the way to stay put of deception is to know the word of God and trust the Lord more than you lean on your own understanding. Trusting people gets me into a bunch of trouble although i do need another set of eyes.
Good scripture to point out brother. Now I don't think the message of mr. Vallotton necessarily contradicts Paul, rather I think Gal 1:8 adds on or brings more nuance to this message.
I think the speaker would agree to put it like this: If someone tells you something specific about you or your life that you don't agree is true, then it's possible you are in deception - UNLESS what the person (or angel or voice) tells you is against scripture.
Does that make sense?
One day I went into the church to say the rosary I did not want to stay for the mass I was stuck by both sides by elderly ladies so I was meant to be there to listen to the gospel and it was trying to tell me not to worry for God hears and sees you. I started to cry and I left so when I went into my car I saw the devil in the tree in the form of a snakes head. I actually thought I was going crazy but the tree itself has a winding branch but the head of the snake is never there so that was worrying.
I totally get being correctable, but to say “Trust someone more than you trust yourself” is a whole other subject.
You just changed the subject with your comment. The topic Kris is addressing is deception. He explains how the Spirit wisdom will operate to destroy pride & arrogance in particular situations between believers. I know I've been deceived & warned by a trusted loved one, but didn't respond. Much heartache & regret would have been avoided walking in this simple solution. That's some good word
@@christinerobbins8980 No, I didn't change the subject.
It makes sense in the specific circumstance that there are very very close friends/family/mentor/ relationships that are in your inner circle that have some authority in your life. To the point where when they speak into your life it should make you stop, think and weigh. It doesn’t mean your own opinion is irrelevant, hopefully. Just that someone in your life should be able to speak to you when you are in a situation or mind set that needs a readjustment. Kriss took some advice that he received into prayer and asked the Lord what was going on. That is how you weigh it
Does anyone have the full message. I heard it years ago and can not find it again. Thank you.
Maaaaaaaaan Kris! Pffff. I suppose that's just a good word, then. Thanks for sharing this video.
The only way to cast off deception , is to be Reading, studying, quoting , living Gods Word ---- praying in the Spirit ---- Worshiping God
Totally agree, even Jesus didn't trust Himself to man, for He knew what was in their hearts, because He was/Is the Word Made flesh, Amen.
I agree God uses people, but They also didn't have The Bible with all the books written either back then. So Most of Gods Truth wasn't written yet. But ultimately continuing in Gods truth is what sets one free.
@King J-dub I do gather with other believers, and I hear what they say, but sadly enough not many exhort, but Who put John on an Island by himself? Was He not alone, Only with The Spirit of Christ. What I'm saying is if you cant find other believers who speak the Truth in Love then we Have the Holy Ghost to help us, and "lead us into all truth"
@King J-dub lol, I gotcha, but still it happened, and please dont think that I dont fellowship, I get excited around other believers who really love Jesus, I light up when I talk to others about The Lord, and I do tell others to find a good church, but even those are hard to find now sadly enough, I have gone to many churches and I hear more about mans opinion that God's Word, what you say is true and I never argue The word of God, If Gods says it then it is so, but I do prefer The KJV though, it's more accurate.
I think a little addition I would make to the statement "trust people more than you trust yourself", is to trust "Christ" in that person, more than you trust yourself. But the true test is if what someone tells you, brings you to peace with God......... "But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere."James 3:17
Agreed!
He's talking to Christians who are living in and with Christ. He even exemplifies that very premise in how the revelation comes. If your heart is hearing the heart of the message, it's a given.
The way to stay out of deception is:
1. Read and study the Scriptures so that you can rightly divide the word (that last phrase in is the bible)
2. The Spirit of Truth is the Holy Spirit and He will lead you into ALL TRUTH (that's also in the Bible)
3. Have one or two God Fearing, God obeying friends who know how to righly divide the word and who can discern (Godly Counsel).
4. Have brothers and sisters in Christ around you and allow them to give you feedback on your actions, behaviours, attitudes. Be accountable and be humble.
(1 and 2) The word is your foundation coupled with the Spirit to lead and guide you into truth - right living.
(3) You tell these people when your spirit discerns evil or deception and they will keep you accountable in your seeking the Lord so you are obliged to follow through what you are picking up in your Spirit, and how is God speaking to you. Here is an example: You sense that the teaching you receive is off, but you do not know why. Then, in your relationship with the Lord, the Holy Spirit unfolds understanding and wisdom so that you can test what you sense and determine if you are hearing from God.
That stuff about arrogance and pride and trusting someone to tell you - well that's all well and good, but you should seek feedback from people at work, at home, in the Church, on the sporting field, etc. Humility is the key.
Regarding signs and wonders, ask yourself:
1. In the manifestation from God, or another source?
2. Is the manifestation in harmony with Scripture? (All Scripture is given by inspiration from God; God never contradicts himself)
Jesus warned us in Mt 24:4, 5 11 24 - us of deception - take a look at these Scriptures and do not treat these warning lightly. These things WILL happen. Deception is the greatest danger in the end times.
Signs and wonders do not determine truth; truth is already determined and established (John 17:17; Ps 119:89)
We need to have a love for the truth (Thessalonians). There are both true and lying signs and wonders. We need to discern all, but if you do not receive the love of the truth, you will be deceived; God even sends a strong delusion for those who have pleasure in unrighteousness.TEST IT AND EXAMINE IT - DO NOT OPEN YOURSELF UP WITHOUT TESTING THINGS FIRST. (Word)
Proverbs 26 - He who trusts in his own heart is a fool. The heart will actively deceive you (Jeremiah 17:9) - Your heart is not deceived - your heart deceives you - The word in Hebrew is active. Don't rely on your own heart to determine truth. Scripture is the measure and source of truth.
Finally watch out for mixture - it leads to confusion and division. Don't be passive and don't be neutral. Make sure the word of God is preached in purity and in power and repentance (refreshing is preceded by repentance).
You can't just trust people because false prophets will come from within the church masquerading as servants of righteousness. You don't trust people in order to stay out of deception, you read and memorize scripture and test the spirits against scripture to see if they are true. Notice that this message is not based around any scripture at all; not one Bible verse is used for support. The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?(Jer 17:9) Imagine what Job would have done if he would have listened to his friends.
He never said to just trust people. Actually, he said that he only trusts a few people to speak into his life. You can't j ust be an island and have no one to trust. That is a deception in itself because God's word is very clear that if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we will have fellowship with one another. He wasn't talking about some stranger coming up to him and speaking this to him. He was talking about his best friend of 25 years. Big difference.
+hazelmay64 He DID say trust people....he said it repeatedly.
+Sarah Curtright Guess you missed the spiritual truth throughout the Bible that speaks of seeking wise counsel...When you look for demons you find demons...
Amen Sister, This preacher is devoid of any anointing. Why? because he is preaching another Jesus and a false Gospel. Run the other way from these men who "twist the scripture" to their own destruction.
he also uses the word sex in message. does he mean go out and have sex. Where is the context. Really people. And my comments are weather or not I agree, but simple english literature 101. People ever heard of line upon line, principles. Good Lord Jesus Help us to get out of stupid.
Well he got it right when he said that when we're deceived, we won't know it, because that is what deceived means.
HOWEVER, Paul told the Galatians:-
"8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Gal.1:8)
So under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, Paul says something very different. Surely Paul would be someone we could trust? Or a Heavenly angel? Apparently not, according to the Bible.
That doesn't even make sense. How does preaching a totally different gospel apply to being humble enough to be corrected? Doesn't iron sharpen iron? Doesn't Matt 18 talk about correcting our brethren with truth? Are you so perfect that you're never prideful and in need of a brother who will love you enough to risk the cost of the relationship to rescue you?
John 15:13 - _"Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends."_
Where does it say in the word to trust people? I know in Jeremiah 17 it says cursed is the man who puts his trust in man and blessed who puts their trust in God
Doesn't iron sharpen iron? Aren't we supposed to confess our sins one to one another? Doesn't Matt 18 have a procedure to deal with our brethern in sin?
Translation: Let us control you.
It's called heavy Shepherding Ezekiel 34 is clear. People need to see that this man is affiliated with the Shepherds we stay away from. There's real cheese in the rat trap
No humility for you.
Know the word of God, God won’t violate his word.
The nature of deception is that you are ignorant that you are decieved. The way out is to trust Other people more than Yourself who loves JESUS.
@MarkGJudy1 ...wow really... how do you walk with God then?
Awesome.
So Kris said trust someone else....but the Bible is the only way to steer clear of deception.
The only way? So iron doesn't sharpen iron? You're going to have to take a sharpy to your Bible if that's true.
Amen
He's decieved.
Then don't come here. Learn from those you trust.
If you're not recognizing the testimony of the Holy Spirit here, you're missing soooooo much.
This has to be one of the most ironic moments in history...
As he's standing in a pulpit that's preaching some of the worst deceitful things. Wow. The blind leading the blind. This is truly ironic
I, I, I, I....
Unfortunately you can't see the Elephant of deception in your prophecies a nd The Bethel church movement .Please get into the word and not your lala land of prophecy .
Sorry
The Lord did not say that.... another spirit.
Hmmm pride and arrogant, isn't that part of the traits of the Jezebel spirit??
So all humanity has the Jezebel spirit? That's some bizarre theology.
"How to stay out of deception? Don't listen to a word I say." -Kristina V
I would start by not listening to this preacher - he is extremely deceived...this is jaw dropping.
It is like the 9-11 thing, someone had to show me it was a false flag, I was deceived
No Bible. Just a dude talking telling stories.
The irony of this. Lol
As if friends are the authority, not the Lord or His Word. This guy is really bad. His video on the supposed exorcism he conducted was extremely unbiblical and phoney.
I'm a little confused by what you mean. Are you saying that we're not supposed to receive counsel from people we value?
Austin Morris No, but friends' feedback must fall in line with the Bible, which is the standard. He made as if a friend's feedback is the authority.
+Jon Howard I can see what you mean, and I fully agree with you. I don't think Kris was saying that friends supercede the word, but that we need to surround ourselves with people who we can trust, knowing that they know His Word.
Austin Morris OK and you seem to follow him, hope I didn't offend you. I don't know that much about him, just that another video of his really rubbed my spirit the wrong way.
May I humbly advise you also consider that this is a 9 minute snippet out of a full teaching session at their Ministry School, and not an entire sermon. Kris did point out that God's Word is the final authority and should be the first place we go to as Christians. The 9 minutes here are expounding upon and illustrating in practicality, not replacing, the message and meaning of God's Word.