Why The 1970-1973 Pontiac Firebird Formula Is The Most Forgotten Golden Era Performance Car

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • The 1970-1973 Pontiac Firebird Formula was one of the great performance cars of the Golden Era. Find out why this great car is so overlooked.

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  • @clevlandblock
    @clevlandblock 5 месяцев назад +133

    Back in the spring of 72 I ordered (courtesy of my parents) a new 72 Formula 400. The agreement was for me to order a 350 2 barrel as a college car. Naturally, I instead ordered a Formula 400 in a burnt orange with honeycombs. The order got cancelled by the dealer a few weeks later due to the factory strike. That October I ordered a 73 TA 455, having been told that the SD-455 was on indefinite hold. Drove that car for four years then bought a low mile 74 TA 4 speed SD-455 in 1978. I still have that car, now with 14k miles.

    • @danam0228
      @danam0228 5 месяцев назад +5

      😱

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@danam0228 Very cool!

    • @davidbolt5113
      @davidbolt5113 5 месяцев назад

      Love that car

    • @stephenholland5930
      @stephenholland5930 5 месяцев назад +1

      You've only driven the '74 TA 10,000 miles in 46 years? Doesn't seem many.

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion 4 месяца назад +2

      How many of those 14,000 miles are from smoking the rear tires? 😂

  • @justinwhite9689
    @justinwhite9689 5 месяцев назад +35

    The twin scoops were so cool

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 4 месяца назад

      Till it rained

    • @mikee2923
      @mikee2923 4 месяца назад +3

      Yup. I actually like the twin snorkel scoops better than the T/A shaker.

  • @HerbLarge
    @HerbLarge 5 месяцев назад +21

    I’m lucky enough to have a 71 ram air ho 455 4 speed car with all of its factory drivetrain still in it. It is fun to drive!

    • @user-tw9nc8gw2h
      @user-tw9nc8gw2h 10 дней назад

      Cool... I still have my 1971 Formula 455 HO

  • @thepassionofthegoose5472
    @thepassionofthegoose5472 5 месяцев назад +23

    When I was a child my dad had a 70 Formula 400 in granada gold, and an 87 Formula with a 305 TIP in silver when I was a teen. Needless to say he was a Firebird guy.

  • @joedoyle7799
    @joedoyle7799 5 месяцев назад +13

    Back in 1980 my parents were looking for a new car for my dad, they brought several test drives to the house, mostly GMG bodies until my dad pulled up in a Firebird formula 301 turbo. I didn’t believe him when he said he bought it but he did and it’s still in our family today. 10 years of fighting with a turbo he had put in a custom built 400 with a 400 transmission, it’s a Family heirloom

  • @lancairw867
    @lancairw867 5 месяцев назад +15

    Memories. In the early 80s my teen neighbor had a 72 Formula Firebird 🐦‍🔥. I remember my 13 year old self being pushed back in the seat and see the hood rise as he did a pull. Awesome 😎 his dad was high up at Comp Cams in Memphis.

  • @gmoney1592
    @gmoney1592 5 месяцев назад +75

    Man do I miss Pontiacs.

    • @majesticfirebird2310
      @majesticfirebird2310 5 месяцев назад +5

      Gone but not forgotten, thanks to media like Smokey & The Bandit, Knight Rider and, more recently, I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 5 месяцев назад +5

      Yes. Even 90s ones.

    • @OspreyFlyer
      @OspreyFlyer 4 месяца назад +4

      Yeah same, my wife and I had some Pontiacs: Trans Am, Sunbird, Grand Am.

    • @formula73
      @formula73 4 месяца назад +5

      I bought a 73 Formula when I was a junior sailor back in 2001. Still have it.

    • @gmoney1592
      @gmoney1592 4 месяца назад +2

      @@formula73 Nice man. Great car I love that year and style .

  • @m1a1hm
    @m1a1hm 5 месяцев назад +31

    I think the 70 to 73 Firebirds are the best looking firebirds made I got a 71 Firebird Formula 400 .

    • @danmyers9372
      @danmyers9372 4 месяца назад +1

      Agreed and almost impossible to find these days.

    • @m1a1hm
      @m1a1hm 4 месяца назад +1

      @@danmyers9372 Your right they are hard to find well a least around where I live as a kid in the 80s there were only two guys I knew who these year model firebirds and the 71 Firebird I got came from California

  • @Plombo_5
    @Plombo_5 5 месяцев назад +19

    Those were the days

  • @EvanBarr-uk3vk
    @EvanBarr-uk3vk 5 месяцев назад +16

    1973 formula sd looks so clean

  • @jerryleejohnsonjr1377
    @jerryleejohnsonjr1377 5 месяцев назад +9

    My first car was a 73 Firebird that I paid 800 bucks for in 1982 before I even had a drivers license, I still dream of having that same model again.

  • @csumme7
    @csumme7 5 месяцев назад +7

    A friend of mine in high school had a blue 71 Formula. It was a great looking sports car from the 70s.

  • @blainesnider9089
    @blainesnider9089 5 месяцев назад +27

    I still have my 70 formula400

    • @user-tw9nc8gw2h
      @user-tw9nc8gw2h 10 дней назад +1

      Cool... I still have my 1971 Formula 455 HO

  • @gt-37guy6
    @gt-37guy6 5 месяцев назад +9

    I spent a fair amount of time in a 71 Formula, Black with white stripes and 3 speed manual - high school buddy's car. It was not a quarter miler, but holy cats it was fun to ride on curvy roads at say 120 - 130 mph! Very impressive handling compared to the basic cars of the day, and very good brakes. I have to this day not seen another 350 3 speed manual Formula - but I know they are around.

  • @luisvelasco316
    @luisvelasco316 5 месяцев назад +8

    I always liked Panch's Formula on the show "Chips" which had the dual Formula hood scoops together with a Trans Am shaker scoop.

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 4 месяца назад

      All 3...? Wow

  • @Paulie1232
    @Paulie1232 5 месяцев назад +8

    I own a firebird and I loved it...beautiful car 🚗 😊

  • @69Applekrate
    @69Applekrate 5 месяцев назад +19

    nicely done. not sure if you were clear but, in 1970, all Formulas had 400 engines. The rear spoiler and 350 and 455 engines became avail for 1971.

  • @905cavillac2
    @905cavillac2 5 месяцев назад +4

    That's funny this came across my feed as yesterday I seen a 70 Formula fully restored in a champagne color, absolutely stunning car and very underrated, but I love me a good Formula Firebird✌️

  • @bobc8649
    @bobc8649 5 месяцев назад +4

    Always wanted a 71-73 Formula with a 455 SD. Add the twin scoop hood with ram air ! Owned a 69 GTO 400/ 355 hp so I got the whole Pontiac vibe.

  • @allanbacon2977
    @allanbacon2977 5 месяцев назад +6

    Was my favorite car 🐦‍🔥

  • @landiahillfarm6590
    @landiahillfarm6590 5 месяцев назад +4

    '71-'73 Formula's are IMHO one of the best looking musclecars of all time. Sadly I never owned one, but I did have a '70 GTO so I totally get it!

  • @braddietzmusic2429
    @braddietzmusic2429 5 месяцев назад +12

    I just like these Firebirds in these 3 year a bit more than Camaros of the same years. I never get tired of looking at them.

  • @georgewilson1184
    @georgewilson1184 5 месяцев назад +23

    Actor James Garner portraying low budget ex convict frugal Private Detective James Rockford drove Firebird Esprit but because he really enjoyed driving and doing his own stunt work his firebirds were actually Formulas badged as Edprits LOL

    • @RivetGardener
      @RivetGardener 4 месяца назад +2

      His car is a classic. And those J turns he did!

    • @georgewilson1184
      @georgewilson1184 4 месяца назад +4

      @@RivetGardener well I said low budget maybe not his standard fee $200 daily plus expenses 😆 that may be cheap now but back in the 1970s that was a hefty fee

    • @ONTHEEDGEFRED
      @ONTHEEDGEFRED 4 месяца назад

      ​@@georgewilson1184yeah that was pretty good money back then, considering I worked all week for $50 less than one day of his salary . I made 375 per hour which comes out to $150 a week before taxes

    • @will7its
      @will7its 4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah he drove the secretary version.....lol

    • @1990notch
      @1990notch 3 месяца назад +1

      My favorite show of that time.

  • @brandonpetchnick1182
    @brandonpetchnick1182 5 месяцев назад +6

    I asked for this one some time ago. No idea if you saw the request. It's awesome. I absolutely love your channel.😊

  • @scotsiegel35
    @scotsiegel35 4 месяца назад +4

    I had a 70 formula 400 with 330 hp.stock growing up in 71 and 72 my Jr and Sr high school year's. I could blow away 396 Camero's, no problem It was the fastest car I ever owned in my life. Oh yeah it had a 4 speed with a Hurst T shifter. What a great car.

  • @benniebarrow348
    @benniebarrow348 4 месяца назад +2

    My favorite classics ......1970-1976 Pontiac firebird and 1970-1973 Camaro. Gorgeous cars no doubt.

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers 4 месяца назад +5

    SD455 is one of the awesomest cars ever created

  • @jaydcs6298
    @jaydcs6298 5 месяцев назад +7

    Those hood scoops made the car.

  • @jackduguid177
    @jackduguid177 4 месяца назад +4

    I had a new white/blue
    1972 Trans Am..
    I traded in my ‘66 GTO..
    Wish I had kept
    them both..

  • @danbaumann8273
    @danbaumann8273 5 месяцев назад +5

    Love those hoods. Liked them even more than the T/As shaker. So, if I understood everything correctly the Formula was basically equal to a T/A if so equipped and the only difference would be trim and graphics. Great video.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@FranzAntonMesmer Yeah, the 442s were pretty cool.

    • @cmte.brazinazzo2061
      @cmte.brazinazzo2061 5 месяцев назад +1

      Instrument Panel didn't had the metal finish, even if you wanted, I believe.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@cmte.brazinazzo2061 Yes, the metal dash was only in the T/A, you couldn't gey it in the Fornula.

  • @KevinSan88
    @KevinSan88 5 месяцев назад +2

    The early nose with the twin hood scoops, is my favorite front end of the 2nd gen ‘birds

  • @mikee2923
    @mikee2923 4 месяца назад +1

    70-73 Formula is my all time favorite. Especially when equipped with the 455. With the 73 SD as the holy grail.

  • @misterenergy959
    @misterenergy959 4 месяца назад +1

    Nothing can put me to sleep like a good OCM video….. keep them coming !

  • @mikeks8181
    @mikeks8181 3 месяца назад +3

    I owened a 1975 Firebird Formula that I bought as my first car in 1982. It was underneath set up for rally racing! The gears would only let It get up to about 100 but That Silver Bird Would Turn on a Dime No matter the speed! I Miss it so much!

  • @JustK009
    @JustK009 5 месяцев назад +74

    When America built REAL cars

    • @Tony_417
      @Tony_417 5 месяцев назад +5

      Have you seen the mustangs, Camaros, and challengers of the last 10 years Forrest Gump? I would call those REAL cars with record breaking horsepower numbers. Such an ignorant comment founded in none sense. I’m sure you’re very proud of your 40 year old firebird parked outside your doublewide trailer. But the muscle cars of the last 10 years are amazing technological marvels.

    • @sidefx996
      @sidefx996 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@Tony_417 sure the performance of the newer cars is better, but the styling and the entire image is completely based on the older cars you just knocked. The originals were just that & weren’t trying to be something they weren’t.

    • @sidefx996
      @sidefx996 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@Tony_417 and apparently you’ve been living under a rock because you haven’t seen the prices of these Firebirds lately. None of them are parked outside a double wide Einstein.

    • @appleiphone69
      @appleiphone69 4 месяца назад

      My S550 Mustang has great styling and performs as both a muscle car and sports car. 460 HP and cooled seats.

    • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
      @user-qr7ee2cp4y 4 месяца назад

      @@appleiphone69 given the performance of these new cars, I'm amazed that so many are paying so much for the run of the mill turds of the 60s and 70's....

  • @madmike2624
    @madmike2624 5 месяцев назад +5

    This content is so fantastic!!, facts to back it up is even better!! Keep up the most interesting and fact filled channel!!`!Bravo !~!

  • @jimsteele2072
    @jimsteele2072 4 месяца назад +1

    I agree, my buddy back in like 1978 had a 71 formula 400, black with tan interior, cragars, I wished that was my car ...
    I had a 68 Sattellite , still was badass

  • @johnhull6363
    @johnhull6363 5 месяцев назад +3

    Nailed it with this one. Being younger, I had a 91 formula 5.7L bought new

  • @carlc5748
    @carlc5748 5 месяцев назад +3

    John De Lorean looked to Ferrari to help design the 1970 Firebird. it was supposed to be exclusive for Pontiac. GM people insisted that the camaro get the same design, or the Pontiac design would get the proverbial axe. My cousin has a 1970 Firebird, and told me this little known background story.

  • @chris.swearenginchannel
    @chris.swearenginchannel 5 месяцев назад +3

    I do like the trans am, but the firebird I would take the second gen. That would be my favorite out of the first two. I do like the videos. Please share more of them take care.

  • @josephcameron530
    @josephcameron530 4 месяца назад +1

    Excellent presentation. Awesome cars!

  • @michaelsimmons261
    @michaelsimmons261 5 месяцев назад +3

    Aaa the good Old days 😊

  • @cva1122
    @cva1122 5 месяцев назад +2

    Keep them coming. I look forward to each and every one.
    When I load RUclips, if you have a new video, it's the first one I click. Everytime.

  • @kencooper2059
    @kencooper2059 4 месяца назад +1

    Beautiful cars!

  • @trent1984
    @trent1984 4 месяца назад +1

    My favorite muscle car ever

  • @peterbedrosian622
    @peterbedrosian622 5 месяцев назад +5

    great video

  • @weekendgarage3299
    @weekendgarage3299 4 месяца назад +2

    Pontiac made some iconic cars!

  • @danmyers9372
    @danmyers9372 4 месяца назад +1

    Had a high school buddy who bought a used 1971 or 72 Formula 455 around 1974. That car was really impressive. Great power (torque) and it handled better than pretty much any muscle car of that era. I had a 1970 Mach 1 351 and the Firebird beat my Mustang in pretty much every way imaginable. Out of curiosity I occasionally check the used market for these cars and rarely do I find one. Decent examples seem to be extremely rare especially given how many were produced.

  • @ronb493
    @ronb493 5 месяцев назад +25

    One of my favorites as a kid. Brings back memories.

  • @V8AmericanMuscleCar
    @V8AmericanMuscleCar 5 месяцев назад +2

    I have 88 Trans Am GTA and I love it but I would like to have one of early 70s too.

  • @WaltANelsonPHD
    @WaltANelsonPHD 4 месяца назад +1

    I look forward to your posts. Thanks!

  • @blackscotydog
    @blackscotydog 5 месяцев назад +4

    RIP Pontiac.......

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 4 месяца назад

      Well said

  • @ArmansAdventures
    @ArmansAdventures 2 месяца назад

    This Firebird is very attractive. I saw it a few weeks ago. I saw the movie and I posted it on my page.
    Thank you for your interesting video 👌👍🏻🇱🇷

  • @georgeford6439
    @georgeford6439 4 месяца назад +1

    My fave years of TA/FB.....

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT 4 месяца назад +1

    My aunt had a white one with all the performance options. I was a couple years too young to buy it when she sold it and in mint condition 😮

  • @chadkimmel8957
    @chadkimmel8957 4 месяца назад +1

    These are my favorite years for Firebirds.

  • @767driver
    @767driver 4 месяца назад +1

    My Dad had a 72 Lemans. A great car, kept it 20 years with no major mechanical issues.

  • @Litt646
    @Litt646 4 месяца назад +1

    I had a 73, loved that car!

  • @pinchnloaf
    @pinchnloaf 4 месяца назад +1

    Love these cars. And that’s how I feel about my LT1 Camaro. You get the SS drivetrain but can option it sleek and light

  • @teddyghioto
    @teddyghioto 4 месяца назад +1

    I have had lots of firebirds and trans ams lemans and even a fiero with a 350 in it over the years..Right now i have a 83 grand prix 350 in it a 96 firebird formula lt 1 and a 97 firebird v 6...LOVE MY PONTIACS...

  • @TBird1960
    @TBird1960 4 месяца назад +1

    I bought a '72 red formula 350 summer of '79. It came with a junkyard receipt for the replacement engine, said: '73 pontiac 400. A year later, while replacing the fuel pump I discovered it was a 455. To this day, I think it may have been a SD. At 6 K rpms it still had torque. Paid $300 for it!

  • @excelerater
    @excelerater 4 месяца назад +2

    love these ,455

  • @KetchLambier
    @KetchLambier 5 месяцев назад +3

    I only wish the 70-73 had the T/A front fender vents.

  • @stephensanchez9590
    @stephensanchez9590 23 дня назад

    I loved the second generation firebird awesome car

  • @JackF99
    @JackF99 5 месяцев назад +2

    I'm a Mustang guy but IMO the 70-73 Firebird Formula was the best looking Pony Car of all time.

  • @ricknorton1732
    @ricknorton1732 3 месяца назад

    1970-1973 Pontiac Firebird Formula Is my favorite

  • @midnightsun2483
    @midnightsun2483 4 месяца назад +1

    I always liked the formulas

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 4 месяца назад +1

    I had a white 73 SD 455 Trans Am. Regrets still run deep for selling it!!!!!

  • @bryanmchugh1307
    @bryanmchugh1307 4 месяца назад +1

    My first car was a 1976 red Camaro. It was a nice car.

  • @billmcmurtrie1142
    @billmcmurtrie1142 4 месяца назад +1

    I'd love to have a '71 Formula 400 Firebird. Best looking Firebird ever.

  • @danam0228
    @danam0228 5 месяцев назад +2

    Spot on mon ami

  • @johngranato2673
    @johngranato2673 4 месяца назад +1

    I nearly bought a used 72, with the hood scoops. However, I was short $60, So, I asked my dad for a loan, but he didn't have the money. So, I bought a 73 Buick Century. Oh, well. Fifteen years later, I was able to buy a 68 GT 350 Fastback. I still love the Pontiac, though.

  • @manddservice.manddservice
    @manddservice.manddservice 3 месяца назад +1

    Great Video

  • @trainglen22
    @trainglen22 4 месяца назад +1

    Gorgeous cars! I wish that the GM motor company didn't make the Corvette the car that no other car built by Chevrolet or Pontiac couldn't be faster.

  • @seththomas9105
    @seththomas9105 4 месяца назад

    I had the luck to own a 73 Z/28 LT/RS back in the 80's. LOVED that car, but I always thought the Poncho's were better looking. And the Formula's set up right were a running, gunning SOB. The Ram Air Hood was Probably the best cold air induction ever on a factory GM car.
    When I win the lottery... LOL.

  • @goodbonezz1289
    @goodbonezz1289 5 месяцев назад +1

    Early second generation Firebirds and Trans Ams would be the main reason why I’d want a time machine…

  • @bobdavis3357
    @bobdavis3357 4 месяца назад

    I want a 72 T/A 455 H.O. Car ran mid 13s stock, 13.5 @105 with the automatic TH400

  • @SierraBravo347
    @SierraBravo347 5 месяцев назад +6

    Now we're tawkin....

  • @CarsandCats
    @CarsandCats 5 месяцев назад +1

    Flush mount side markers really cleaned up the car over the Camaro.

  • @darrellsaunders4267
    @darrellsaunders4267 5 месяцев назад +1

    A guy I ran around with in high school got a 70 Trans Am brand new...white with blue stripe. 5700.00 plus change.
    I had A 68 Firebird 400....I could keep up with him neck and neck to 100mph. He had it up to 157 mph one night and it still had room.

  • @gunsbeersmemes
    @gunsbeersmemes 5 месяцев назад +3

    Can you do the G-Body Grand Prix GT?

  • @shayzayit
    @shayzayit 4 месяца назад

    ❤Pure art ❤

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT 3 месяца назад

    My aunt had a Formula with all the performance options, white on white. Sold it decades ago in mint condition for $4k😢😢 and I was too young to buy it 😢

  • @smellsuperb1
    @smellsuperb1 4 месяца назад +1

    Absolutely not forgotten, this was the best of the second generation, especially '70-'71.
    1970 (year i was Born) is not coincidentally the best year of muscle cars across the board. '72-'72 isn't bad either but those had reduced compression and the beginning of emissions restrictions.

  • @thunderray1987
    @thunderray1987 5 месяцев назад +1

    The best-looking Firebird is still the '79-'81!! I would take a '79 Firebird Formula 400 or a T/A, either one.

  • @charlesdiggs5297
    @charlesdiggs5297 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love the coverage, but you neglect to mention that the 1970 strike cut production.But this was john delorean's best work at gm

  • @CarsandCats
    @CarsandCats 5 месяцев назад +2

    The gap on the front bumper valance drives me nuts! They could have done MUCH better than that.

  • @MrJohnnyDistortion
    @MrJohnnyDistortion 4 месяца назад +1

    Best Formula & T/A body style and nose. A jet intake nose.👍🏼

  • @MrWill73
    @MrWill73 4 месяца назад

    Definitely one of the most underrated and unrecognized muscle car. Strongest engines with no excess weight and had only what you needed. Slimed down prized fighter. Optioned correctly, it was a mid 13 second car totally stock. Blew away the Road Runner and beat it at its own concept.

  • @ceejay960
    @ceejay960 4 месяца назад

    Really rare cars these days, probably because so many have been converted to a Trans Am, since for so many years that's what most collectors wanted.

  • @buckshot6481
    @buckshot6481 5 месяцев назад

    The best thing Pontiac ever built next to the GTO.

  • @westhavenor9513
    @westhavenor9513 4 месяца назад +1

    You should probably clarify that the HP ratings after 1971 are net, rather than gross

  • @mikyl-fo8rh
    @mikyl-fo8rh 4 месяца назад

    Then came the rectangular headlights 😖
    What surprises me is the industries' tardiness in providing 4-speed automatics especially given their other technological gymnastics to improve fuel economy and performance in the 70s.

    • @davesmith9684
      @davesmith9684 4 месяца назад

      meh.. nationwide speed limit was still 55mph. It was cheaper to go with numerically lower rear gears

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u 4 месяца назад +2

    I've always preferred the Formula over the Trans Am; it had cleaner styling, and was a much better performance bargain

  • @rogerodle8750
    @rogerodle8750 5 дней назад

    Never knew about the shaker hood on the Formula Firebird -- but other than the rarity of the car why would you want one? The dual scoops actually worked better.

  • @The_R-n-I_Guy
    @The_R-n-I_Guy 4 месяца назад +1

    Love GM cars before the 5mph bumper standards

  • @dta666
    @dta666 Месяц назад

    My dad had a 1973 Formula 350 in Metallic Burgundy with a tan interior. Miss that car.

  • @michaelcoffey7362
    @michaelcoffey7362 4 месяца назад

    Nice 😊

  • @kc0lif
    @kc0lif 5 месяцев назад +2

    i like the 2nd generation. i like 455 ho.

  • @KetchLambier
    @KetchLambier 5 месяцев назад +2

    GM missed the boat in the 2010s and 2020s by keeping the name alive in offering Camaro buyers a limited production choice for for a Trans Am or Firebird.

    • @majesticfirebird2310
      @majesticfirebird2310 5 месяцев назад +1

      Pretty sure there's a company out there that offers unofficial Trans-Am body kits for 5th gen Camaro's.

    • @KetchLambier
      @KetchLambier 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@majesticfirebird2310 there is (or was). I mean factory produced, limited run. Same for Stellantis and the 'Cuda.