You need two batteries, two ECUs, and control them from the stock display, paralelling the data line (white wire), the ignition (blue wire) and the ground (black wire). You leave the green wire unconnected at the "slave" ECU, as well as the red wire, because the two batteries will have voltage difference from time to time, and you don't want to balance them through the ECUs. The setup does work with only one battery also, but 2x11A load drains it too fast. You can do much more distance with double batteries. (Actually more than twice as much as with the stock setup, because cruising at top speed the consumption is nearly the same as with one motor, but you have two batteries to deal with it.) One of my friends managed to do over 50 km without need for charging: that's impressive, I think.
Sok lehetőség van, de a legjobb tuning a dupla motoros átalakítás, mint ebben a videóban is látszik: jól gyorsul, emelkedőn is 20 km/h óra körül megy, fele fékúton megáll, a legjobb tuning. Egy motor, egy vezérlő, és egy extra akku. Aki utóbbit lespórolja, kinyírja hamar szerencsétlen gyári akkut a taposóban, mert a dupla vezérlő dupla terhelés. Két akku ezt megoldja, csak fel kell fogatni a kormányra (célszerűen vízálló táskában, nem úgy, mint én a videón próbából). Ezen felül van még sok tuning lehetőség, maguk a vezérlők is tudnak több áramot (nagyobb gyorsulás), elviselik a 48V akkut (nagyobb végsebesség), viszont ott a hiba, ha 42 km/h-ra képes a gép, és széttörik alattad. Én 36 km/h-nál estem utoljára pofára emelkedőn felfelé. Ott hagytam abba az S1-ezést. Ha maradt volna csak dupla motoros, 36V-on, 2x11A vezérlővel, untig elég lett volna. Igaz, 28 km/h a vége síkon (lejtőn megy 30 körül max.), de ezzel a vázzal nem is kell több.
Most likely yes. I never tried though, because Kugoo motor is a lot cheaper. Even if E-twow has a higher watt rating, it doesn't justify the 2-3 times higher price.
Igazából ha vki a kereszteződésben előz, még csak nem is szabálytalan... Ez a furgon viszont nem tudom mit nézett, mert macisajtja volt, és mégis jött kifele mintha ott se lennék.
Never tested this setup for max. range, but according to power consumption at full speed being somewhat similar to single motor setup (4+4=8A) I guess it could do almost twice the range of the single setup (because of double batteries). I had only 15 km range with a 6Ah battery, somewhat heavy rider at 100 kgs, so it should've done 25-30 km with me on board. (Later I went easily over 50 km without needing to recharge, but there were 3+1 batteries included in those days. Overkill I know, but I quite liked this little scooter back then.)
Actually you can upgrade several aspects for different goals. If you only want more range, upgrading battery capacity is just fine. But it will do nothing with the acceleration, hill climbing ability, and last but not least the stopping power. For these goals you need something more than a bigger capacity battery. Namely the dual drive. (Sure you can modify the controller, for more acceleration with one wheel drive too, but it doesn't add top speed, and braking power. You can also go to 48V from 36V, which will increase top speed, and acceleration, but it's not that safe to go high(er) speed with the factory (very limited) stopping power.) In the end you could go for a BIG battery for your dual drive, with modified stock controllers: that is what I'm going to do for more range, more speed, more stopping power, and more fun. It's only a bit pricey, so at this point you will consider why not buying a bigger scooter in the first place.:-D
Go downhill, dude...;-) Actually it can't go beyond 30 km/h on flat terrain on its own, even with double motors (at stock). You need to rewire the hub motors to go faster, and after that you may need stronger ECU(s) too. The point in this setup is that it can keep the speed near 25 km/h uphill. That's where the double power helps a lot. And of course it's a lot more fun to drive, and safer too, due to the doubled stopping power.
@@tussalopez Yeah, that works too. I thought before that the ECU can't do that but actually it handles 48V quite well. See: ruclips.net/video/Hd6zpq9mxM0/видео.html
@@Jozavenue You can change the settings in the menu. It will display the state of charge according to the 48V pack. With dual drive and dual 48V packs (not to mention the one BIG pack for both motors, that I'm currently building) the scooter will easily go above 30 km/h on flat. (Surely above 40 km/h downhill.) But the point is, that it will climb nearly 30 km/h uphill, which is truly amazing from an S1 (even if it's modified), and really fun to ride. Some say: poor man's Dualtron.:-D
can you show the wiring diagram ? or how you made it :)
You need two batteries, two ECUs, and control them from the stock display, paralelling the data line (white wire), the ignition (blue wire) and the ground (black wire). You leave the green wire unconnected at the "slave" ECU, as well as the red wire, because the two batteries will have voltage difference from time to time, and you don't want to balance them through the ECUs. The setup does work with only one battery also, but 2x11A load drains it too fast. You can do much more distance with double batteries. (Actually more than twice as much as with the stock setup, because cruising at top speed the consumption is nearly the same as with one motor, but you have two batteries to deal with it.) One of my friends managed to do over 50 km without need for charging: that's impressive, I think.
i have kugoo s1 bro,i need to add external battery and can you show us the things needed and the wirings.waiting for that video.thanks
Mit kell venni vagy átalakítani rajta hogy erősebb legyen a gép?
Sok lehetőség van, de a legjobb tuning a dupla motoros átalakítás, mint ebben a videóban is látszik: jól gyorsul, emelkedőn is 20 km/h óra körül megy, fele fékúton megáll, a legjobb tuning. Egy motor, egy vezérlő, és egy extra akku. Aki utóbbit lespórolja, kinyírja hamar szerencsétlen gyári akkut a taposóban, mert a dupla vezérlő dupla terhelés. Két akku ezt megoldja, csak fel kell fogatni a kormányra (célszerűen vízálló táskában, nem úgy, mint én a videón próbából). Ezen felül van még sok tuning lehetőség, maguk a vezérlők is tudnak több áramot (nagyobb gyorsulás), elviselik a 48V akkut (nagyobb végsebesség), viszont ott a hiba, ha 42 km/h-ra képes a gép, és széttörik alattad. Én 36 km/h-nál estem utoljára pofára emelkedőn felfelé. Ott hagytam abba az S1-ezést. Ha maradt volna csak dupla motoros, 36V-on, 2x11A vezérlővel, untig elég lett volna. Igaz, 28 km/h a vége síkon (lejtőn megy 30 körül max.), de ezzel a vázzal nem is kell több.
Can you put front e-twow wheels on kugoo?
Most likely yes. I never tried though, because Kugoo motor is a lot cheaper. Even if E-twow has a higher watt rating, it doesn't justify the 2-3 times higher price.
1:52 azért ez kemény volt, és ilyenkor ugye gyorsan meg kellene nézni, hogy nem akar-e valaki szabálytalanul kereszteződésben előzni balról téged...
Igazából ha vki a kereszteződésben előz, még csak nem is szabálytalan... Ez a furgon viszont nem tudom mit nézett, mert macisajtja volt, és mégis jött kifele mintha ott se lennék.
How long did it go for full batteri , range ??
Never tested this setup for max. range, but according to power consumption at full speed being somewhat similar to single motor setup (4+4=8A) I guess it could do almost twice the range of the single setup (because of double batteries). I had only 15 km range with a 6Ah battery, somewhat heavy rider at 100 kgs, so it should've done 25-30 km with me on board. (Later I went easily over 50 km without needing to recharge, but there were 3+1 batteries included in those days. Overkill I know, but I quite liked this little scooter back then.)
Did you use stock controllers, or swap them out for different controllers?
Stock. 11A each.
Just change the battery to a higher ah that is what i did for more range.
Actually you can upgrade several aspects for different goals. If you only want more range, upgrading battery capacity is just fine. But it will do nothing with the acceleration, hill climbing ability, and last but not least the stopping power. For these goals you need something more than a bigger capacity battery. Namely the dual drive. (Sure you can modify the controller, for more acceleration with one wheel drive too, but it doesn't add top speed, and braking power. You can also go to 48V from 36V, which will increase top speed, and acceleration, but it's not that safe to go high(er) speed with the factory (very limited) stopping power.) In the end you could go for a BIG battery for your dual drive, with modified stock controllers: that is what I'm going to do for more range, more speed, more stopping power, and more fun. It's only a bit pricey, so at this point you will consider why not buying a bigger scooter in the first place.:-D
I got this same scooter but it goes 25km/h do u know how to make it go 30km/h
Go downhill, dude...;-) Actually it can't go beyond 30 km/h on flat terrain on its own, even with double motors (at stock). You need to rewire the hub motors to go faster, and after that you may need stronger ECU(s) too. The point in this setup is that it can keep the speed near 25 km/h uphill. That's where the double power helps a lot. And of course it's a lot more fun to drive, and safer too, due to the doubled stopping power.
Just buy a more volts battery, like 48v
@@tussalopez Yeah, that works too. I thought before that the ECU can't do that but actually it handles 48V quite well. See: ruclips.net/video/Hd6zpq9mxM0/видео.html
@@tussalopez system is setup to 36 volts
@@Jozavenue You can change the settings in the menu. It will display the state of charge according to the 48V pack. With dual drive and dual 48V packs (not to mention the one BIG pack for both motors, that I'm currently building) the scooter will easily go above 30 km/h on flat. (Surely above 40 km/h downhill.) But the point is, that it will climb nearly 30 km/h uphill, which is truly amazing from an S1 (even if it's modified), and really fun to ride. Some say: poor man's Dualtron.:-D
Hi can you add extra batteries on mine? Ill pay you