BC Faller Training Standard - Wedging (9 of 17)
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- This video series is the companion to the BC Faller Training Standard, which was designed to teach new fallers safe work procedures for falling and bucking. The goal is to help workers with forestry experience develop the knowledge, attitude, skills, and abilities that will enable them to function as safe and productive fallers. Note: Some practices demonstrated were modified for filming and may not be consistent with the BC Faller Training Standard.
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0:00 Introduction
0:03 Small Tree
2:56 Large Tree
7:35 Directional Control
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This is the best tree felling video I've seen, and trust me, I've watched dozens
B.C. Work Safe Logger Videos....
Just goes to show, reading alot of the comments that there are so many differing opinions on being a "Tree Feller"....and it's also a testament to the old adage...."you can't teach an old dawg new tricks" well I have been knocking down trees of all types and sizes from the Pacific Northwest as far east as the monsterous Cottonwoods of Nebraska and the Mighty Oaks of Southern Missouri....and been doing it since a very young lad of 16-17 yrs old (I am now in my late 50's) so basically anywhere there were trees to be cut for a living I have been there and done that and all I can add is this set of Videos (yes I watched every single one) .....is the best real world educational tool other than on the job training that I have ever seen period bar none. In fact several logging companies I worked for now have these set of Videos as a "must watch" before you can actually put your skills to work.....
So British Columbia you get a gold star for doing this set of safety videos in my book....if it helps prevent 1 serious injury or prevent 1 single on the job fatality.....you have more than done a fantastic job.
R.C. "Charlie" Hill
Randy Hill i just cut firewood for myself, not a pro and never will be and i was thinking this series is the finest on youtube for felling trees as well. good to know the pros also think the same thing about the series :)
@Texas CAT Manuals I will tell you this much, along with my Wife and Son own a small logging opperation and we bid for timber other bigger companies wont mess with (too small a tract or in to hard of a spot to get to with their machines that replace boots in the woods fellers like me) anyway we are now removing tons of bark Beatle killed pines ( the wood becomes very beautiful when killed by the damned bugs and is in great demand for counter tops, cabinets and so forth in the stick and log home building industry....and its catching on about every where now, it really is very beautiful when worked into home decor) anyway I thought so much of these videos that even though our son could run a chain saw safely before he could ride a bike....he never dropped even as much as a sapling for us till he completed the videos and passed a written test we made up based on them. Safety is what brings us home each day and when you have had good friends killed by making mistakes or just a freak accident makes no difference you just can never be to safe and need to stay up to date with current technology and methods to lessen the chance of something going bad.
Again my thanks to British Columbia for putting these great educational videos on line.....
RC Hill
@@dumbdumber1885
Doesn't matter what you cut wood for EVERYONE that is going to fell a tree should know the proper and safe way to do it without causing harm to person or property.
Look Im in my mid 50's and aside from a couple of 2nd jobs I took on when younger and could burn the candle at both ends without suffering the next day Running a chain saw, drivin wedges and falling trees is all I have ever done and in that time I have lost 2 close friends to accidents, one was the fallers fault, he decided to throw out all the safe things he had been trained to do and it cost him his life. The other was a big Douglas Fir that barber chaired in a freak accident and snapped off another tree top that landed on my friend and crushed him while he was getting out of the way along one of his escape routes....truly a 1 in a thousand freak deal.
That don't change the fact that I miss them both and think of them everyday we head to the timber....places I have worked have had fatal accidents as well but 99% of the time it was due to faller error...no proper escape routes, falling limb tied trees in a dangerous manor, falling rotted wood when they should have just walked away, etc, etc you get the picture so in retrospect trust me when I say if your going to fall 1 tree a year or 100 makes no difference.....if your cutting already down trees like storm damage (which we call widow makers for a good reason) for a winters supply of firewood or a months worth of firewood for the family cabin in the Mountains or at the lake....you need to follow ALL THE PROPER TECHNIQUES ALL THE TIME AND PRACTICE PROPER SAFETY.
So you see why or what reason doesn't matter one bit.....what does matter is that at the end of the day you and everyone around you go home safe and sound.
A old logger in Idaho once told me...."A chain saw don't have a brain and don't care what it cuts....a saw by itself never hurt anyone.....its the Loose Nut runnin the danged thin that'll get you killed every time thats the problem!"......He was in his 60's then and didn't get to be that old being stupid thats for sure.
Just last week we were finishing up a tract of bug killed timber (90% Ponderosa and 10% Fir and Spruce) and there was a 160'ish ft tall Ponderosa on a steep slope that had grown out then up creating a huge letter "j" if you will and I used that tree as a perfect teaching opportunity with my Son. Thanks to the Videos I questioned him on how to best get it on the ground and he went over the methods with me and we decided on the exact right face cut to fall it perfectly and I could not have been more proud as that tree landed just like the videos show and the look on my Son's face was more than worth the effort we all put into practicing what we learned.
R.C. "Charlie" Hill and Son.
full agreement. Best I have seen......simple,to the point and easy to understand.
absolutely a real value to the human race posting these.
Yes. And don't forget that safety doesn't stop at the professional end. There are even more amateur homeowners who own a saw, looking for clear advice to keep themselves out of the hospital. There is nothing more instructive than the true case histories illustrated in this series. With hundreds of thousand views already, I'm gonna guess that this series will have already saved lives. Few of us can say that we honestly saved lives over a lifetime....
The power in a simple tool, the Wedge. Pretty amazing when you think about it.
These dudes undercuts are impeccable
I'm just a home gamer cutting firewood but I'm finding these videos extremely helpful. This might be the only worthwhile thing the government has ever produced.
Get back to work, hippie !!
@@robbrenton9438 you’re a hippie.
I agree.
BC faller courses are no joke. I didn't learn much about wedges in my level 1 course, but they did teach me how to deal with hangers. And that definitely saved mine or someone elses life (you dont want to leave those around).
(If anyone wants to know, you essentially buck the hanging tree, cutting it with vertical stokes until it eventually drops...which it will. You do have to keep compression/tension in mind when bucking at all levels, including this)
Thought I would revisit this and add that even with my experience its great to jog my memory about certain things that I relaxed on doing on every tree I dropped...its those types of things that get you killed.
Look bottom line here no matter if your a once in a while back yard homeowner or a weekend fire wood cutter or a daily in the woods Feller the methods shown in these series of videos will teach you the RIGHT & SAFE way to fell about any type tree you will come into contact with. I urge anyone who is going to fell a tree period no matter if its once in every 4-5 years or 20 trees a day you need to watch these videos from #1 to the final one in the series.....it just might save your or someone elses life and I don't say that to act like a know it all.....I say it because it's very true.
Thanks again WorkSafe BC....
I could have really used these videos when i started falling timber in nor cal 40 yrs ago i had zero actual training of any sort i had only watched fallers as a choker setter. No exaggeration it's dumb luck i wasn't killed. These vids are very good and i still get something out of watching one. I learned eventually but definitely the hard way.
Did you ever have any close moments that made you be like, "Gosh, that was too close. How am I still alive?"
The tree faller’s manipulation of the chainsaw to clear an escape path reminds us of the importance of wearing protective chaps & steel-toed, high-ankle work boots.
The angled hinge animation shows the saw coming back and kicking the wedges out!
Thanks for 17 x17 videos clip
That helps me to a better Woodycuter in South Africa 🇿🇦
Thanksgiving for all lessons
Great information loved the video
Surprising (to me) there's no mention of differing wedge length/taper. IME shorter (5-6") wedges have more obtuse (wider) angle than 8" or longer. Resulting in the longer ones being able to apply more lift-force per whack, while being more vulnerable to chain hits. Wedge choice/specs could be useful vid topic.
I was watching a video a week or so ago by Westcoast Saws, and they were talking about the different length wedges. Their website has some good holders where you can hold up to 3 of the shorter ones and the longer ones; designed to allow woodchips to fall out the bottom corners. I saw leather and metal holders. Some good exhaust port upgrades also, along with a few other chainsaw upgrades. Gordy has a few tree falling videos as well as some tips on when to replace the Piston for maintenance. oh, he has a suspension upgrade for the Stihl 500i as well to sturdy it up as well as an aluminum clutch cover upgrade for different chainsaws as well. If it interests you. Just seemed like it would
I learned a lot of these "intuitively" on my own through trial and error, but I wish I would've seen this video when I first started out. It's really useful to watch now even after some mediocre experience. WorkSafeNB should have something like this, too.
1:50 Look Up. 2:08 - 2:30 Wait & Watch. 3:01 ~ 3 or more Wedges. At 7:05 when he popped his ear muff, I tried to pop my headphone off so I could better hear the hinge popping. Didn't work too well.
Excellent instruction.
Thanks, I live in the Rocky Mtns and made a ton of mistakes this summer trying to cut down pines on my land. This videos helped me realize what I'm doing wrong.
I'm always amazed at how high the stumps are cut in these vids
Great series of videos and will safe life and limb. However, the tree at 9:48 has bad gas. I think that's why they run at least ten feet from them when they fall. ;D
Love the series. I have learned a lot. Thank you very much.
Thanks for the help.
Should have got Buckin Billy Ray to do a couple! This guy knows what’s he is doing though I gotta say!
He's a banger!
excellent !
great video !!
Great video guys
good video
Bravo. Bien instructif
good vid
The back cut on the big tree was extremely high
This cat knows how to cut
Dat cat cut gud wood whut!
Awesome info but he didnt yell timber! :)
10:42 that tree looks like it still fell to the left quite a bit. Not sure how far left they were saying it was leaning, but leaving more holding wood on the right side (if he actually did that) didn't seem to help.
Their idea of a small tree and mine are quite different. That first one, to me, would be like bringing down a giant redwood.
Thanks for the videos, really finding out I don’t know $#@t. Grew up farming/ranching always doing something with a saw, it’s a wonder I haven’t been hurt. Trying to teach my son how to run a saw now. Hey, one other question, how do you cut down a tree that’s already barber chaired? Maybe I’ll find out as I keep watching these videos. Thanks!
Maybe wench it over grabbing tail with pulley or come along system?
It's just so safe. I would like to see Ash cut this way
I cut dead ash with a humboldt undercut all the time. Normally I try NOT to wedge the trees real hard if I can help it cause the tops come raining down if the touch anything. Fairly dangerous.
@@JS-oy6nn I have 6 70 footers to cut down next week. Was planning on using wedges. Thanks: Good to know. I also prefer Humboldt.
The ‘Finnish Lumberjack’ RUclips Channel illustrates how the faller may cut a tuning-fork configuration to channel the tree in to a precise direction when adjacent pathways are contra-indicated.
The cut at 9:00 into the video is not allowed under US OSHA:
www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/logging/manual/felling/cuts/unacceptablepractices.html#swing_dutchman
Exactly how i would've done it =).
Tune that saw
At least the undercut was nicely cleaned out so we are told 😂😂😂😂
First tree fell on the wrong direction from the notch. There goes your home if it was in that direction.
Backcut should rather be closer the level of the first cut for safer holding and better wedging
With all that wedging is there not the danger of dislodging a ‘ widow maker’?
I think we are to scope the tree our beforehand ... BUT dead trees can always produce widow makers from what I've been watching.
Surely leaving some high stumps their Mister...
If it's leaning real hard would it not be better to just leave one high stump and make sure you make a good cut so the tree goes in the right direction and doesn't break?
the jackel who’s mister?
These videos should be renamed "how to guarantee the tractorist will kick your ass" them tall stumps are like tank traps for a tractor.
the jackel you must not cut trees for a living.
Obviously this is 4 educational purposes dumass
"Holding wood" here is what I've heard referred to everywhere else as "hinge". Generally "holding wood" comes into play when making a bore-cut for the backcut. As you approach breaking out, the remaining wood is "holding wood". Seems we might want to agree on a common lexicon?
And ... what's with calling the face cut, the "undercut"? I know they talk funny (like "falling" a tree) in the NW, but let's get together.
Holding Wood and the "hinge" are regarded as the same thing, as are " The Face" (cut ) and Undercut , .... Here on the west coast anyway ...
we talk different in different necks of the woods...surely you can adapt? It aint rocketscience buddy.
the 3 cuts in felling a tree are the diagonal cut, the undercut and the back cut, most ppl call the first two simply the face cut
windy day
Pretty sure you're not supposed to just go into a full on sprint with your back facing the tree. You move the saw behind a big tree or some other safe place, wedge the tree and as it starts to fall calmly walk backwards away from the tree.
ZombieFighterOf2001 thats wrong
you dont walk backwards away from the tree you walk at a 45 degree angle
I meant you walk backwards as in you facing the tree, you're still supposed to walk at a 45 back and to the side but you face the tree at all times, you don't turn your back to the falling tree.
idk, i'm thinking of a trip and fall scenario if i were to try walk backwards in the woods and that's not a good position to be in especially if you happen to be carrying your saw. i realize one should clear a nice escape route but it's never gonna be real clean and you may have to deal with incline/decline scenario. nope i'm thinking they walk forward cos is faster and more reliable way to move in the forest.
why was not the hollow cut option taken for such a large tree....?
back cut with two wedges..>
it is pretty riskY>
They are making harder than it has to be when they actually show the chart of holding wood being more on the right side and less on the left. It is counterintuitive as imagine placing a wedge on the right side instead of the leaving the more holding wood. Why not just cut your hinge straight across and place your wedges on the left side closer to your hinge.
When the tree starts to go and lifts off the wedges, the wedges will have no effect on supporting the trees lean anymore and it will not fall in the intended direction without sufficient hinge wood opposite to its lean. There is no substitute to more hinge wood opposite of a trees lean in my experience. But I still place the wedges on the side of the trees lean.
how is putting an angle on the hinge much harder ? probably just as hard to keep it straight lol. the way these guys handle a saw piece of cake. even i can put an angle on the hinge lol. the hard part of the amateur is getting all the cuts to meet so to speak.
You called a wedge a ‘lever’ wouldn’t better be called an inclined plane?
This is for a straight tree . Not a leaner
I know these guys know what they're doing, but it freaks me out to see them walking straight behind the tree rather than to a 45 degree angle, as safety instructions indicate (especially the one at the end of the video).
I wonder what happens when you fuck up the cuts. Do you just leave it to God ? Move onto another tree ?
I lift up my face screen to better see you my dear.
Wonder how many of the 500,000ppl who watched this will ever cut a single tree
Am now in my 70s & no large trees in the yard but tall skinny pines on frontage owned by county. Their guys said to cut them down any time I wanted to [reduced the trees they had to keep track of]. Since those pines [2 cedar] keep wild drivers from driving across my yard we keep them in place. BUT if they did a wind fall, could damage house. Only experience I've had with chain saw was BSA leadership course & cut down small tree. Good course was given by Northern lumber company trainer. Still ... the saw scares me & I have no chaps. Sooo am reluctant to rent a saw & drop a couple.
Jesus H Christ! First of all that face cut should have had the angle cut on the top, not the bottom. Make your 90 (degree cut) on the bottom side. 2nd, you should NEVER have to cut that far in with the backcut especially when using wedges. 3rd, if your wedges have to be drove in more than twice you've left your hinges to thick. 4th, clean that barbers chair (inside of the notch) up before even starting the backcut. 5th, never and I mean never walk away from a falling tree and not look (at least glance) back at it. It could be falling towards you and you'd never know it until it hit you. I'm surprised this guy is still alive!
Too bad it's so badass and fun to drop ancient trees and denude a landscape.
Agreed, we should just let it burn.
Finding you in the comment section of a B.C falling instruction video is one of the most hilarious surprised for my day. I know the conflicted feeling!
Very bad. Cutting that much higher than the apex of the notch means that you are severing through the fibers at the effective part of the hinge. This is against US OSHA rules and for good reason.
Robert Silvers inch or 2 inches ubove never flat .
Known as stumpshot keeps the tree from kicking off the stump the Humboldt Undercut helps with this as well
Yes l to
If you weren’t a moron, you would realize A OSHA is a US company, 2 this channel is WorksafeBC.
@@mikeneiswender143 vv
What a terrible training video the Faller did not put on the chain brake once while putting wedges in or checking his back cut
Peter Armistead that’s your big complaint...?
doesnt have to if the saw is in the tree and his hand isnt on the trigger
Peter Armistead boo hoo, safety Sally.
why would you put the brakes on just for the one second it takes to check the back cut? the saw is in the wood it's not going anywhere.
If the idle on the saw is low enough the chain will not move
At 7 minutes that faller was too high above his under cut ! Looks like it. Cause when they showed a tree fall it wasn’t the one he was trying to wedge and cut !! Watch it. Correct me if I’m wrong.