Voronika is in such a better place now, and she's putting out sime good numbers for me, even after a full dismantle. I like that she's still kind of fiddly, but doesn't require you to gimp your formation with sub-par Champs just to get the most out of her (or reset multiple times to get an ideal roll). Her speed run adds a very interesting wrinkle as well, and incentivises some off-formation swaps like her old design, but doesn't require you keep them into the end of adventures. Very good all around
@@tyredack yeah I disregard everyone's opinions for the most part for my pushing team. I just run AA and AQ INC and I do e650-700 with not amazing leggos and a budget speed core as my main pushing core cause it takes hours to develop a core and I could only do a budget speed core months ago. I'm at 1950 on Vecna for Kent's tokens. Everything else is 2k tokens. I've been playing for a year but I don't really have anyone above a thousand item levels other than speed champions and evergreens but I seem to be able to feed a bunch of stuff people who went all in on Artemis struggle with.
I was wondering if you were going to re-rank Desmond, and there you go! Good video as always... except that you had Orkira (seat 1) as one of the debuff champions, haha
two things one okira is in first slot so no aoe debuffs from her also astarion lowering ults cool down plus being an evil undead works great for the kas voro synergy
Yeah, I realized after the fact that I threw in Gale and Orkira in there just grabbing debuffers without thinking about their seat for the debuffs. Derp moment.
Very solid rework. She is just generally better in pretty much all ways, nothing much to complain about. She obviously works quite well with Kas and should be better for Warduke, Krond, and Artemis. It does unfortunately look like all future reworked champions in events will be delayed until week 2 going forward, which is annoying. Hopefully it's good for retention or something cause it seems to be net negative for players. The new premium currency announcement was... interesting. It looks like ftp players will be able to pick up a very occasional premium pack with the daily login rewards. I have some healthy skepticism, but we'll see how things go.
One thing i did not see you mention mate is her utility in making the puppet a BDS member, this could easily make any champion be eligible for 4/4 Folk hero! either the multi-classers or With Duke for non affiliated or single class champions
I mentioned it, but not the potential synergies it might unlock that's true! 4/4 Folk Hero for naturally Unaffiliated is a big one too! Especially since out newcomer Kas is Unaffiliated who pairs so well with her.
@@tyredack I started playing the game the last week of Liar's Night and was able to do most T3s this event because I realized this. I had a starter pack with Wyll and Ravengard which along with Minthara can buff Folk Hero out of this world, even without any item levels on any of them really. The key was realizing that Desmond would allow me to bring 3 AA champs along (I added Astarion who I got from Liar's Night flex), and give an e40 buff of his own once the whole party turned undead from Kas. Next upgrades would probably be Lae'zel and Strongheart.
Does using a potion of specialization to reselect her key allies cause search for the crown to reset? I ask because I tend to go with the favored foes option to quickly complete "Speed Run" but then want to change to evil champions to increase the boost applied by calculating guidance.
I think they Ellywick Gem Feat and the Briv 9j Feat are must haves for those who can make use of them. Those are the standouts. The Undead Feats are fun, but worth it at this point is questionable, unless you'd specifically make use of them with your personal setups.
Agreed on Voronika, but I don't know. I would move Kas and Desmond up now, since the two together can get huge numbers by themselves with any formation, if you farm Kas stacks and kill everyone near the wall. That with full blue equipment and just a few item levels!!! And Wyll I would be moving down, since his mechanic is too strict and hard to fit on most formations without removing other good characters.
Desmond got a bit of a bump because of that this time around, I'm hesitant to move him up further because he's only getting that good currently exclusively when using him with Kas. Wyll still has the best scaling buff in the entire game, but it's true he's restrictive. You can still build formation around him, but it's possible he'll get a bump down one of these days!
Is the best way to take advantage of Voronika's speed run to stuff her formation with speed/favored foes champions before switching them out for a pushing team?
That would be a decent option, especially if you are swimming in respect pots to make sure you have the proper first spec for your pushing formation. But honestly it's not all that bad imo to get any of them done.
Watching it just for the cat mainly Very handy now I don't like the Speed Run skill but its jot too bad the 2500 kills is too slow the 500 favored foes is way to go. I like Voronika but if I can use Gale I will always use him more I do like the puppet master skill though
I don't know what you mean by fourth specialization. Might you mean fourth Feat? If so, it takes having enough Favor and pushing deep enough with your current gold find to have enough gold to level up that far. Once you unlock that Feat slot it's permanently unlocked for that character.
@@tyredack It might be that I didn’t explain it clearly enough. For example, to unlock Voronika’s fourth Feat slot, she needs to reach level 2795, but my Voronika is stuck at a max level of 2680 and can't go any higher. Is there a way to increase the level cap?
I see. You need to set the level up function (located to the left of BUD) to a specific number (like x100) instead of "Next Upgrade." If set to "Next Upgrade" it will stop once you reach that max level, but if you set it to x10, x25, or x100, etc, you can level them beyond that soft cap. Ultimately that just gives them very minor boosts beyond the soft cap - but it helps with some formation abilities and like you are looking for, unlocking that last Feat slot.
I feel like this is the first miss in a while. For me, the speed run buff is not worth the effort and it has counter synergy with her ultimate power buff. For me personally, like Umberto i dont like slow build champions I don’t like it taking at least seven hours to reach full power.
I can see that. In my opinion she does enough without that hard time investment, though, with plenty of interesting and useful mechanics between two at least decent buffs, on top of her positional buffing specialization, and counting as dead.
i feel like it's too much investment for a single character who will be restricted in some variants and not very usable for beginners to mid game players
I don't think she actually does require much investment, if you mean item levels. Time investment to make her really pop off, though, yeah she does. But like Rust and Umberto I think it has the potential to be really helpful to mid game for people to push past walls they really want to. And I think she goes good in a Kas formation, which might be what a lot of those players will use. I can see what you mean tho
She pretends she isn't *THEN SHE IS* then she isn't *THEN SHE IS* It's always harder for her when I'm streaming, though. She hates me yelling in the mic.
Still patiently awaiting for the new guide on Minthara and SGT Knox rework, love your videos!
Me too!
me three. i love tyredack
Oh boy a tyre Video! My favorite thing to Watch on the toilet.
It's the onnly place it makes sense
The last 3 events the devs are on fire
They have been pretty strong ones, it's true!
Voronika is in such a better place now, and she's putting out sime good numbers for me, even after a full dismantle. I like that she's still kind of fiddly, but doesn't require you to gimp your formation with sub-par Champs just to get the most out of her (or reset multiple times to get an ideal roll). Her speed run adds a very interesting wrinkle as well, and incentivises some off-formation swaps like her old design, but doesn't require you keep them into the end of adventures. Very good all around
I do think she's for sure in a better place as well. Like you're saying, maybe not perfect, but better is better!
fun fact, powerful focus (and the feats assosciated) stack multiplicatively with socialite's double-dip feature
the power of redheads
Oh thank God, now I have something to entirely base my opinion on!
I HAVE THE POWER. But really, maybe think of it as a foundation to consider your own opinion on 🤔
@@tyredack yeah I disregard everyone's opinions for the most part for my pushing team.
I just run AA and AQ INC and I do e650-700 with not amazing leggos and a budget speed core as my main pushing core cause it takes hours to develop a core and I could only do a budget speed core months ago.
I'm at 1950 on Vecna for Kent's tokens. Everything else is 2k tokens.
I've been playing for a year but I don't really have anyone above a thousand item levels other than speed champions and evergreens but I seem to be able to feed a bunch of stuff people who went all in on Artemis struggle with.
I was wondering if you were going to re-rank Desmond, and there you go! Good video as always... except that you had Orkira (seat 1) as one of the debuff champions, haha
I realized that after too lmao, had Gale as well 😅
RNG out, Artemis synergy in
Very good. We need more capable evil champions!
We've been getting more, and thankfully through Kas we can make anyone Evil! 😈
Gonna miss resetting 50 times to get my DPS as the puppet 😢
It's a damn shame, isn't it? 😂
two things one okira is in first slot so no aoe debuffs from her also astarion lowering ults cool down plus being an evil undead works great for the kas voro synergy
Yeah, I realized after the fact that I threw in Gale and Orkira in there just grabbing debuffers without thinking about their seat for the debuffs. Derp moment.
Very solid rework. She is just generally better in pretty much all ways, nothing much to complain about. She obviously works quite well with Kas and should be better for Warduke, Krond, and Artemis. It does unfortunately look like all future reworked champions in events will be delayed until week 2 going forward, which is annoying. Hopefully it's good for retention or something cause it seems to be net negative for players.
The new premium currency announcement was... interesting. It looks like ftp players will be able to pick up a very occasional premium pack with the daily login rewards. I have some healthy skepticism, but we'll see how things go.
One thing i did not see you mention mate is her utility in making the puppet a BDS member, this could easily make any champion be eligible for 4/4 Folk hero! either the multi-classers or With Duke for non affiliated or single class champions
I mentioned it, but not the potential synergies it might unlock that's true! 4/4 Folk Hero for naturally Unaffiliated is a big one too! Especially since out newcomer Kas is Unaffiliated who pairs so well with her.
@@tyredack I started playing the game the last week of Liar's Night and was able to do most T3s this event because I realized this. I had a starter pack with Wyll and Ravengard which along with Minthara can buff Folk Hero out of this world, even without any item levels on any of them really. The key was realizing that Desmond would allow me to bring 3 AA champs along (I added Astarion who I got from Liar's Night flex), and give an e40 buff of his own once the whole party turned undead from Kas. Next upgrades would probably be Lae'zel and Strongheart.
Now that I don't absolutely hate her puppet ability, I'll start using her, especially since Kaz is so damn good.
Yeah, that RNG wasn't fun to play with imo
Sometimes it was good to see your DPS pop up and use her, but honestly it needed a change.
Does using a potion of specialization to reselect her key allies cause search for the crown to reset? I ask because I tend to go with the favored foes option to quickly complete "Speed Run" but then want to change to evil champions to increase the boost applied by calculating guidance.
As far as every time I've done it, she maintains it. It's viable to do it one route then switch if that's what you prefer to do.
What are your thoughts on the items available in the "Vampire Emergence"?
I think they Ellywick Gem Feat and the Briv 9j Feat are must haves for those who can make use of them. Those are the standouts. The Undead Feats are fun, but worth it at this point is questionable, unless you'd specifically make use of them with your personal setups.
So Voronika’s speed run ability is like risk vs reward?
Agreed on Voronika, but I don't know. I would move Kas and Desmond up now, since the two together can get huge numbers by themselves with any formation, if you farm Kas stacks and kill everyone near the wall. That with full blue equipment and just a few item levels!!!
And Wyll I would be moving down, since his mechanic is too strict and hard to fit on most formations without removing other good characters.
Desmond got a bit of a bump because of that this time around, I'm hesitant to move him up further because he's only getting that good currently exclusively when using him with Kas. Wyll still has the best scaling buff in the entire game, but it's true he's restrictive. You can still build formation around him, but it's possible he'll get a bump down one of these days!
Is the best way to take advantage of Voronika's speed run to stuff her formation with speed/favored foes champions before switching them out for a pushing team?
That would be a decent option, especially if you are swimming in respect pots to make sure you have the proper first spec for your pushing formation. But honestly it's not all that bad imo to get any of them done.
Just a note, Debuff option images. You put Gale and Orkira in the group, how would that work? ha ha
Yeah that was me being stupid and just throwing in debuffers and not thinking about seat lol
Are you all right? I'm wondering if everything is okay because you haven't released any videos for Minthara / Sgt. Knox yet.
There was something that came up in my IRL that has taken me out of commission a bit. Working on something to at least put up soon!
@@tyredack No stress. There are more important things than RUclips.
Looks like Artemis has 2 waifus now ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) One being Valentine, the other one being Voronika
Swimming in Evil redheads
@@tyredack Who doesn’t love evil redheads 😏
@@tyredack Yasss
A- I'm shocked. As I watch watching the video those numbers sounded huge. Also why the Gale slander?
To get those big big numbers it really does take a lot of ult spam otherwise it's just alright, but still good!
Watching it just for the cat mainly
Very handy now I don't like the Speed Run skill but its jot too bad the 2500 kills is too slow the 500 favored foes is way to go.
I like Voronika but if I can use Gale I will always use him more
I do like the puppet master skill though
Makes sense.
Especially if you're using AA, yeah, Gale is still de wey
@@tyredack Is your cat a ragdoll cat as I have 2 ragdoll cats mysrlf 🥰😍
She's a Trukish Angoria, but they seems to be close in a lot of ways.
@@tyredack Aww bless XD
How can I increase my hero's level cap? I haven't been able to unlock the fourth specialization.
I don't know what you mean by fourth specialization. Might you mean fourth Feat?
If so, it takes having enough Favor and pushing deep enough with your current gold find to have enough gold to level up that far. Once you unlock that Feat slot it's permanently unlocked for that character.
@@tyredack It might be that I didn’t explain it clearly enough. For example, to unlock Voronika’s fourth Feat slot, she needs to reach level 2795, but my Voronika is stuck at a max level of 2680 and can't go any higher. Is there a way to increase the level cap?
I see. You need to set the level up function (located to the left of BUD) to a specific number (like x100) instead of "Next Upgrade." If set to "Next Upgrade" it will stop once you reach that max level, but if you set it to x10, x25, or x100, etc, you can level them beyond that soft cap. Ultimately that just gives them very minor boosts beyond the soft cap - but it helps with some formation abilities and like you are looking for, unlocking that last Feat slot.
@@tyredack Wow, so that’s how it works! I didn’t know that before. Thank you so much!
Oh no where did Tyre go.
Had some IRL stuff stop me in my tracks. Working on getting back on it!
I feel like this is the first miss in a while. For me, the speed run buff is not worth the effort and it has counter synergy with her ultimate power buff. For me personally, like Umberto i dont like slow build champions I don’t like it taking at least seven hours to reach full power.
I can see that. In my opinion she does enough without that hard time investment, though, with plenty of interesting and useful mechanics between two at least decent buffs, on top of her positional buffing specialization, and counting as dead.
i feel like it's too much investment for a single character who will be restricted in some variants and not very usable for beginners to mid game players
I don't think she actually does require much investment, if you mean item levels. Time investment to make her really pop off, though, yeah she does. But like Rust and Umberto I think it has the potential to be really helpful to mid game for people to push past walls they really want to. And I think she goes good in a Kas formation, which might be what a lot of those players will use.
I can see what you mean tho
lilly does not look enthusiastic about your play time
She pretends she isn't *THEN SHE IS* then she isn't *THEN SHE IS*
It's always harder for her when I'm streaming, though. She hates me yelling in the mic.
I"m gonna bust!
What are you busting, though?