It would actually be better if they took the old original game and remaster it. Instead, they took the newer mobile version of the game, which contains a lot of bugs, and remastered that one.
They also removed the original gta trilogy from the stores. So you can't buy the non-definitive from the digital stores anymore. Unless you already did buy em on the digital stores, or your one of the bunch who has the physical ps2 collection. Or download/pirate it to play the trilogy versions. Otherwise they have effectively replaced the original with this buggy version And made sure you can't get it anymore on stores. 🙃
the thing is that the developers focused so much on graphics that this type of logic did not matter to them because they think that the players won't find all this out.
That moment, when a game from the 2000s has far more "realistic" details than its remaster made 20 years later. The video game industry has evolved and gone such a long way, it's going to base 1 again.
Nah it's just lazy and careless "developers" who put on a lot of makeup for the game, but didn't bother put in the essential details that made it somewhat believable. So glad I didn't waste my money on this.
I like how Rockstar, a company that has made BILLIONS with the same game since 2012, decides to hire an inexperienced inexpensive mobile game studio for this very important trilogy. Greed at its finest.
Thank you. Anyone with 2 brain cells knew what would be the result of this, and considering how much money they made with this game, and therefore how important it should be to them, this is pretty laughable to me because I feel like they went to far, I feel like they shouldn't be able to get away with this, so I'm entertained to see what happens.
Why is it greed? The entire gaming industry has been like this for many years so it fits right in. And people will continue to support R* because as individuals they have no values, just selfish mindsets to buy what they want because they want it. As a playerbase, you support MTX, you support online DRM of single player games, you support buying ingame currency to gamble with. R* will continue to thrive, they are too big to fail, GTAVI will sell very well...or maybe you all will boycott it as you should...nah that's a silly idea because you just want to play GTAVI. That is what's wrong with gaming, they've milked GTAV for a shocking amount of time, people still bought it. The industry is shamelessly greedy, full stop, and people still support it.
They could've made all three in a new engine, instead they wanted to play on people's nostalgia by using the same old engine and making the graphics look like something from a free game.
I dislike the fact that AAA game developers rush the shit out of the game without checking bugs and details first. At least just release it when it's ready, quality is better than time and quantity
Well, this perfectly shows times where developers were mostly creating games vs times where marketing, heads, game designers etc. are mostly deciding what goes in and out of the game...
Exactly, executives are completely out of touch with what people want in games. Same thing with movie productions, with “reboots” of old Disney classics. They focus entirely on “ultra-hi def” and “hyper-realistic” graphics, instead of anything else that made the characters more alive. Then they pat themselves on the back on mainstream media for making things more “lifelike”.
they'll never update any of these remasters, R* said they'll put the originals back in their store and give them for free to whoever bought the definitive edition. Won't be shocked if they don't put it back on Steam.
There was ways to update games - but it was not easy. You had to edit, finalize the game in question, process it to disc and package it. Then once that is done, announce a recall, and have all original copies shipped back and replaced with the new copies. Then ship out all the new copies and have stores pull their stock of old copies to replace with the new ones. Old "defective" copies that got sent back - destroyed. Job done. Any left in circulation or already purchased that were not returned - nothing happened. So you can see why the game had to be as perfect as possible the first time, and would be playtested for weeks with a wide variety of sample players. I just got Version 1.0 of GTA Vice City on PS2 after years of searching. The Haitian Unfriendly version. The copy of Vice City that I have and have always had since 2002 is the Greatest Hits version which is the Haitian Friendly (edited) version. The Greatest Hits issues of PS2 games always contained patches, bugfixes, and additional content than the launch day copies.
With the R* logo pool, it wasn't even on the map in the OG version, it was just another easter egg to discover while exploring. Putting it on the map ruins that.
@@SemajResarf a good game is made out of details. That was a detail they wanted to add, it was a bad decision and they did it bad too... So it's totally legit to get upset, since the game is already garbage for everything else.
@@SemajResarf oh somebody have different opinion than my which is the best opinion in the universe I have to destroy him with irony and sarcasm and only then I'll find peace grow up people opinions can vary
I never realised that the Vice City logo actually changed, they reversed the colours and inversed the white. So now instead of looking like a Neon 80s style logo it's just a bland purple with black outline style logo.
It makes me want to download the original GTA Vice City, download a patch for widescreen, maybe some textures and also cars (or just download the 1980s mod) and that's it lol it would be better made.
For a mobile developer and their time frame, they did excellent. All the other GTAs were perfect because they actually spent the time and effort properly. This is all on rockstar / take two themselves
@@joshylord Rockstar had 8 months to make all of Vice City after 3 released. Out of originality and pure creativity they made a masterpiece. These remasters are garbage, glad I'm never paying for them
@@wafflebotus hmmmm yeah given that info maybe so, but the resources given to them and experience and support that team had, probably very little. Again I blame rockstar not Grove Street games per say
This seems like one of those games where they just ignored the QA testers. They must have known about at least some of these issues, they just shipped it anyway.
Man, it pains me to see the top games of my childhood that gave me a billion hours of entertainment end up like this. The newer generation will not know what we've respected these games for.
I was hoping in a true remake, imagine playing GTA vice city but with GTA 5 level of detail and engine but nope we got a lazy a** remaster, not even a lazy remaster, a straight downgrade.
Truly a shame. To me Vice City is still greatest sandbox game of all time. Feels like home everytime i replay it. But nothing is sacred, as long as corpos want more money.
I think it looks good and its only to hold us off until their next release which is going to be revealed in the next coming weeks. That's why they had another company take this project over they're very busy trying to release their next triple a title
Something else I noticed about the helicopters in the original vs the "definitive": In the og VC, the helicopter's blades actually look like they're spinning fast enough to keep it in the air, in the "definitive" VC, they spin so slow that it looks like you're about to drop out of the sky at any second
Yeah that's perhaps the detail that bothers me the most with the Defective Editions, they made aircraft blades work in an extremely unrealistic RPM range, Not to mention the lack of motion bloor, which the originals had, which also helps to give the impression of higher rotation speed. I like that they gave aerial vehicles proper navigation lights on this, but that's pretty much the only thing they did right in this disaster.
I think maybe they were trying to do what paramount did with the sonic the hedgehog trailer, release a crappy version, everyone goes nuts, then they fix it, get praised and everyone sees the film. Except they fucked up and released the game instead of a preview.
Actually is not that they did a better job than they ever could, Rockstar has proved all of its life to be the best one in little details (like in RDR 2) is now that they’ve become lazy about it that the community is a angry; Because they know how much of a better work Rockstar could have done.
90% people don't even know that this is not made by Rockstar. I have no idea why Rockstar would approve something like this and damage their reputation
Everyone: Why Release the awful game rockstar? Rockstar: “I got caught up in the money, the power... I don't give a shit. Oh fuck, man... I had no choice... I had to do it... I just see the opportunity..."
Rockstar before that talking to Grove Street games: *this is a disaster, we're so screwed man, they are out there wanting to chop MY head off its RIDICULOUS, im not sticking my head out the door, NO IM NOT*
The passion that once flowed across these lands is no more. Games today don’t care about the immersion, the little details that tie everything together no longer exist. Rockstar among many other gaming companies, see us as money. Not people with a passion for gaming. It’s a sad reality when they can’t understand the more effort you put in, the better it’ll be.
imo, modders know what the people want because they play the game themselves and care about it. not to mention there are billions of modders out there so you have a choice and are not stuck with the decisions the developer made FOR you.
The company gave it to another studio called Grove Street games that make mobile version of GTA series. So they made them all the definite versions on that basis. so its not really made them on the basis of Pc or consoles. They just passed it off to their studio to do the work while the main rockstar games either got lazy or are working on another game. maybe so maybe not
Rockstar exec: Okay, we gotta get these remasters done and on the shelf before Christmas, who do we got on call? Rockstar employee: Um...Sir, how about us? You know? The guys who actually made the originals and know how they work and know how to properly remake them? Exec: Nah too time consuming and besides you guys ask for too much money, how about Grove Street Games? Employee:....The guys who made the mobile ports that everyone hated?... Exec: Yeah those guys, get them on the phone and tell them they have about 6 months to do those three and I want them to look like brand new, made for modern consoles. Employee, now nervously sweating: Sir I don't think that's such a good idea... Exec: Get that cheap labor on the phone, NOW!
You know what could’ve been clever, if the distant textures was just the PS2 version of the game, and when you get up close you get the definitive detail. Damn, they needed me on the team.
@@oceancactusrequiem6232 it's an old trick you can go and experience in a lot of games from the late '90s/early 2000, especially Unreal Engine ones. So yeah, 100% possible.
Microsoft should just make the actual definitive original Xbox versions of GTAIII & GTAVC BC for XSX/S, like they are on 360. They have better graphics and complete soundtracks. The original Xbox disc for GTASA works with XS, but the graphics aren't as good as those other two, but it's a better game than this remake. It's not really BC, as it DLs the mobile port, so needs the Internet to do it, so it's not the PS2 port that's on the disc. It looks and plays better than the original, but is missing some music and DJ voices.
Whole trilogy is cartoony from original release. Missions, gameplay etc. Mafia is serious. That's why original was looking real and so the remake. I don't see any reason to play realistic looking game with missions like "pick up the whores", "collect porn magazines on time", "blow up the whole city by stealing a tank from fucking army straight from the street" or "change the color so police cannot run after you anymore". Honestly (beside fucking price) I don't know why players got furious.
@@ARmy2510 Ughh I'm sick of this excuse. The original games very clearly aimed for a realistic artstyle and was at the time of release one of the games that archived this the best. The nature of the missions doesn't fucking matter, that's not what anyone is complaining about, GTA 5 and to a degree 4 also have their silly moments yet they have a realistic artstyle, it was like this from the start. And people are furious because this is a cash grab with more bugs then the originals had, missing details across all 3 games and questionable design choices. Seriously your excuses are almost as lazy as the job Rockstar did here.
@@ARmy2510 Learn the meaning of artstyle and stop spreading these lazy excuses. Mafia released almost a year after GTA 3 btw and it is absolutely irrelevant to this whole thing.
Really grinds my gears how Rockstar had taken these games, the iconic games that help build the company to what it is today and pissed all over them. It really feels like we have knock off versions of the originals with brighter lighting and better textures. It’s embarrassingly bad when your “remaster” cannot hold up to the quality and standards but forth 20 years prior. Now i know why Rockstar went after and put and an end to the available mods for these games. They simply couldn’t compete. It’s no surprise that this trilogy remaster is now the worst rated game of the year, reflects the effort and care they give nowadays.
Recent events raise concerns that the Golden Age of "Rockstar" has come to an end... or had just begun, in a literal sense. Well, unfortunately, it has to happen someday, nothing lasts forever.
When you got the people who made rockstar what it is today, leaving the studio, you know there's a shit storm coming. GTA 6 probably started to be developped when the OG team was there so it's definitelly have some good stuff in it but it'll never be as good as any other GTA i can bet on that
More like back when rockstar cared about the customers and made a genuine game , everyone knows that this "remastered" edition was rushed and a complete ripoff
@@o_oro-q1k lol no, he's whining about how Rockstar didn't dump a bunch of money into an old game to make it fresh for his preference. Each game is $20, compared to originally $60 and not hd or digital.. so he's wrong about it being a rip off. And it's a remaster, not a remake. So again, just wrong lol
@@TheSonofabiscuit A remaster is supposed to improve the game slightly while still maintaining the original feel. Not only improve the environments and make everything else worse.
I believe that back in the day they went “over the top” when it came to effects that they could control since the overall graphics weren’t realistic. Now they have the technology and want to hold back? They tried to “redefine” these games instead of keeping what really made the games great. It’s like they were ahead of their time and regressed
I think the console limitations at the time are what unintentionally added to the vibe of the games for example if they could have had a higher rendering distance at the time i think the originals would have been very similar to the defintive edition
Yeah but a car driving into a river just makes a big splash and NPC's still don't float above groundlevel, so imo they were just lazy. Imagine how great that game COULD look if they gave a fk.
Trust Rockstar? Are you mad? You do realize they intentionally advertise GTA 5 to kids, and that's why they added laserguns and the oppressor? If you report 5 year old children online they won't be banned. That's their target customer. And then the kids consume gore in GTA 5 (for example the tortue missions, the dozends of machetes, hammers and knifes you can use to create gore scenes) and get bullied in the voicechat, I don't even blame adults for calling
Really? Cause I bet GTAVI will sell out. People do not care if companies do stuff like this. The gaming audience is so big they can do whatever they want, and people don't actually boycott anything anymore; they talk about it and even say they're going to do it, then go crawling back because they're selfish and have zero integrity and companies know it. Just yet another failing of new generations on the planet. Things weren't like this before social media nonsense, a time when your parents actually stood up for poor quality etc and didn't buy it.
@@Lolp821 this is not true and is the kind of thinking that will really screw the industry if it ever does crash (the gaming industry has been going down since 2017 as a whole in quality it's only a matter of time )
@@Pactastic042 I would say it was a bit before 2017 myself, but I find it very hard to see it any other way, buying something that you don't agree with is supporting it and saying you approve, but a lot of people want to take that stance but also buy it because they want to, that's why it's gone the way it has. I hope gaming does crash, it's a shameless money making machine.
I sighed so loudly when you crashed the car into the water the first time. The very idea that a developer would neglect to make a car splash when it hits a body of water at speed, let alone in an update of a game that had such a basic feature almost twenty years ago, raises my blood pressure.
@@turbogamer2023 I've always hated any "I don't want my entertainment to be realistic" argument, because it affords people the comfort of deluding themselves. They may or may not be completely cognizant of their reality when they actually "touch grass," but it does seem like an excuse to flip a brain switch into an alternate mode of thinking, and people can become susceptible to the dangers of being able to do that without noticing. Not saying anything about you btw, I'm just saying I'd rather spend my time on something that might make me forget _my_ problems, sure, but not that there _are_ problems. Depending on context this might be completely different from graphics or whatever. But I'm willing to embrace the developer chase for that always elusive "immersions" they're always talking about. When I was a kid I dreamt of video games that looked exactly like real life. So ultimately on several fronts I would say my opinion is about as opposite to yours as it can possibly be without thinking every game should have permadeath, or literally be Sword Art Online or something, lol. And can I just say, I have no problem with unrealistic games, I just think that on the spectrum of real and unreal devs are making an artistic decision, that I can respect, and since NO game is photo real, or a proper simulation of reality yet, I'm glad there's an emphasis on it in modern gaming. Even if that emphasis is perhaps overstated.
As one who understands game design, what you showed here is how the team built the game, they built the game mostly on automatic methods rather than create and improve things, they really underestimated the game and just made a quick transfer to a new engine and forgot some things that existed in the original game. Something like this can not happen because of a mistake, it is something that is done intentionally and with contempt, and people do not understand it.
The QR and design team at GSG both only had 1 year experience. The lead programmer had 9 years experience but not with PS2 era games - just mobile stuff.
@@visceraeyes525 Read the comment after yours. If you hire that team knowing what game they are supposed to design, you're 100% at fault, there's no one else to blame. Game developers will literally outsource responsibility knowing exactly what they are doing, knowing that the game will be complete garbage because anyone with 2 brain cells and a basic understanding of these games can see that. They knew the game would sell, and they knew it would be garbage. You can't take any blame away from them. They will find a company that will produce a buggy game on their terms, no need to point fingers at that company. EA did the same thing, they remastered one of their most successful games, NFS MW, made millions with it, outsourced the responsibility and just shut down the servers leaving players who had invested several THOUSAND $ with no game to play. They knew exactly what they were doing, they milked the customer base and then moved on. It was still profitable to keep the servers up, so either the license ended or EA told them to shut down the servers to sell their next game. In this case it was at least an actualy remastered version, but towards the end they started adding broken things and tried very hard to get the last penny out of their players by including achievements and coming up with all kinds of ridiculously priced new cars. In my opinion all people involved are despicable in the EA case, but as far as this GTA series goes unless the mobile developer tries to cashgrab with microtransactions they should take no blame. If I'm Rockstar and I hire a homeless person to remaster SA and take 99% of his profits then how is the homeless person to blame for the quality of the resulting game?
Everytime i think Enigma is exaggerating, he just convinces me every time. Holy shit mods that exist for the normal GTA games to enhance graphics make it WAY better than this. Wait the OG games themselves are just way better
If they just wanted the trilogy to look better, they should have just made an add-on that would just change the textures, particles, and add a shader. Not reprogram the whole damn game!
I've noticed that Grove Street Games removed the blur effect that occurs when vehicles go extremely fast or the player falls a long distance, so the helicopter blades lacking a realistic-looking speed could be a loss of that same blur effect.
Rockstar north yelling at Grove street games: *this is a disaster, we're so screwed man, they are out there wanting to chop MY head off its RIDICULOUS, im not sticking my head out the door, NO IM NOT!*
The fact that the devs forgot what the Rockstar logo looked like is another piece of evidence that R* passed the project off to GSG and then didn't even look at the final product before launching it.
I noticed that in the Definitive edition, the bright white lights don't come on when you're reversing a car. In the original Vice City, the white reverse lights would always come on when you were backing up a car. It's a very minor detail but it makes me feel that the original just did some things better.
"the original just did some things better." SOME?! The Defective Edition's resolution is better, that's all, but still looks worse than the Xbox versions of III & VC. Everything else is worse. And SA is BC on XSX. You're better off using the OG Xbox discs in a 360 for VC & III.
I love how cynical the head of Groove Street Games on Twitter was praising their own work on this trash saying that their work was under a lot of scrutiny and they were really proud of this. God damn, these games are really important to many of us because they left a mark in the industry. It seems that Wardrum games now Groove Street don’t see that instead they only care pushing out the thing with bare minimum effort
Maybe that's the best they could do seeing as they're mobile game developers.. I wasn't expecting much when I knew it was them anyway. Rockstar are the ones to blame, I'd say this small studio didn't demand much money and Rockstar went greedy and didn't care about the quality
The strange thing is that you have of very realistic lights, reflection, but the fact that is applied to old models (npc, cars, building) makes the original ones more realistic in certaim ways
As much as I enjoyed these 3 games years ago when they originally released, and as hyped as I was when I heard a definitive trilogy was being made, I'm glad I didn't let nostalgia dictate my purchase, and instead waited for reviews and vids such as these. I'll just stick with the o.g. versions, if i feel the need to relive any of these games, thank you 😉.
@@codered2224 The 360/ps3 versions are utter trash, mobile ports made by the same clowns that done the 'definitive editions' you see here. Dont even bother.
@@codered2224 no it is any gta classics made on newer gen(ps3 + Xbox 360+ are ported from the mobile version which is lazy and just sad because the OG versions have that extra quality about them
@@O.G.1Love i grew up on gta 3 vc and sa too. But for me seeing all these bugs and bad grapics. It aint worth 60€ for the def edition full of bugs 20 years later...
We gotta give props to rockstar tho they're working on so many games at once most obvious one is GTA 6 and the definitive editions of the trilogy didn't get that much attention and hard work that's why they're so bad
Actually, Rockstar is becoming too much overproud on their work. Rockstar used to work hard in previous games when they weren't popular much. But Rockstar now even banned modding definative where modders actually fixed their bugs and glitches but its rockstar you know they weren't able to digest the fact
Everyone now: Hates Trilogy:Definitive Edition( I mean meme edition). Rockstar Games announce suddenly: GTA trilogy: Definitive edition to be renamed GTA 6.
Is it really a disaster though? If you think about it, if you hit a car with a bat, it won’t brake the bumper right away but then again, this is video game vs real life… haha.
I'm so glad I deceived to wait until the physical release to get these games, knowing I'd be able too see all this on RUclips. I will no longer be getting it. Thanks for saving me $60.
0:25 compare the helicopter blades in OG vs definitive in the next shot. In the original the blades actually look like they are spinning fast because of the blurred blade texture. In the new one they used a "better" texture but in turn it looks like the prop is hardly spinning. 0 attention to detail.
ENXGMA: Reports that the firefighter meme in Vice City Definitive Edition is still alive. Meanwhile: Me thinking "I thought that the whole game was a meme".
It's crazy to me that Toys for Bob remade Spyro the dragon parts 1 through 3 with not a single issue at all on release, showing that it's possible for an outside studio to remake games well. Then these guys show up and destroy my expectations :(
2:13 The fire *are* actually there. It just simply didn't render its texture thanks to the layering of the water. You can still hear flames from it and it's also why the Firefighters tries to put it out in both version.
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Turns out the OG Vice City is actually the remastered one...
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Nah you ain't lying 🤥
Look at the speed of the rotorblades, and the stupidly bright nav lights, I am only 35 seconds in and I am thinking TOTAL DOGSHIT!
Fax bro..
@vandiril i know you...
So you're telling me they took an old game, "remastered" it, didn't fix the old bugs and added more bugs to it? Stonks!
It would actually be better if they took the old original game and remaster it. Instead, they took the newer mobile version of the game, which contains a lot of bugs, and remastered that one.
They also removed the original gta trilogy from the stores. So you can't buy the non-definitive from the digital stores anymore. Unless you already did buy em on the digital stores, or your one of the bunch who has the physical ps2 collection. Or download/pirate it to play the trilogy versions.
Otherwise they have effectively replaced the original with this buggy version And made sure you can't get it anymore on stores. 🙃
@@chowderchowdown I play GTA Vice City Og Mobile, but these bugs don't exists in mobile either
@MohmedIruk it was made by a mobile team
@@zomboids2100 they already put the originals back before you even made your comment.
I like how they still put blood on the wasted screen even tho you drowned
Just shows how little care they put into this "definitive" trilogy.
The wasted screen really looks like straight out of a rip off GTA in mobile, it looks cheap as hell
How would water look there instead of blood 🤔
Yeah it looks cheap but it does look better than on the original versions.
LMAO AFಠ◡ಠ
the thing is that the developers focused so much on graphics that this type of logic did not matter to them because they think that the players won't find all this out.
@Luis_257 they just upscaled textures and some models but they didn't bother to fix the terrain or add more foliage or anything
Honestly I didn't even notice but looks like this guy just checked everything
Graphics also so bad
@@hridoyhasan321*bro what? graphics are excellent it's just bugs and physics that are bad*
That moment, when a game from the 2000s has far more "realistic" details than its remaster made 20 years later.
The video game industry has evolved and gone such a long way, it's going to base 1 again.
Great comment. Truth
Nah it's just lazy and careless "developers" who put on a lot of makeup for the game, but didn't bother put in the essential details that made it somewhat believable. So glad I didn't waste my money on this.
Agree 100%
It's evolving; just backwards...
game industry hit an integer limit and is now snapping back to 1
I like how Rockstar, a company that has made BILLIONS with the same game since 2012, decides to hire an inexperienced inexpensive mobile game studio for this very important trilogy. Greed at its finest.
Thank you. Anyone with 2 brain cells knew what would be the result of this, and considering how much money they made with this game, and therefore how important it should be to them, this is pretty laughable to me because I feel like they went to far, I feel like they shouldn't be able to get away with this, so I'm entertained to see what happens.
Why is it greed? The entire gaming industry has been like this for many years so it fits right in. And people will continue to support R* because as individuals they have no values, just selfish mindsets to buy what they want because they want it. As a playerbase, you support MTX, you support online DRM of single player games, you support buying ingame currency to gamble with. R* will continue to thrive, they are too big to fail, GTAVI will sell very well...or maybe you all will boycott it as you should...nah that's a silly idea because you just want to play GTAVI. That is what's wrong with gaming, they've milked GTAV for a shocking amount of time, people still bought it. The industry is shamelessly greedy, full stop, and people still support it.
@@Lolp821 Greed it is then
I miss the good old days of gaming and how simple everything was back then
They could've made all three in a new engine, instead they wanted to play on people's nostalgia by using the same old engine and making the graphics look like something from a free game.
The definitive addition really makes you appreciate the original more
Most remasters makes me appreciate the original presentation more, good thing emulators are a thing
Maybe that was the plan all along
Can you help me in doing the helicopter bomb mission in GTA VC. That is the only thing preventing me from completing the game.
@@abcdefgh6121 it's easy
I dislike the fact that AAA game developers rush the shit out of the game without checking bugs and details first. At least just release it when it's ready, quality is better than time and quantity
Well, this perfectly shows times where developers were mostly creating games vs times where marketing, heads, game designers etc. are mostly deciding what goes in and out of the game...
Exactly, executives are completely out of touch with what people want in games.
Same thing with movie productions, with “reboots” of old Disney classics. They focus entirely on “ultra-hi def” and “hyper-realistic” graphics, instead of anything else that made the characters more alive.
Then they pat themselves on the back on mainstream media for making things more “lifelike”.
The fact that we're receiving big karma for laughing at Cyberpunk.
Damnit..
Yeah ;-;
True af lmao
True
Karma is a b!tch
I didn't laugh at Cyberpunk, I respected it harder
“We’ll fix it later in an update, let’s ship it now!” Back in the day, game studios had to actually test the game, as there was no way to update it
I'm surprised they could delivered OG Vice City in 9 months...
Well actually, Vice City has been re-released with different updates each time, included censored dialogue.
Believe or not, 2000s game did get updates. Not by online but by releasing it.
they'll never update any of these remasters, R* said they'll put the originals back in their store and give them for free to whoever bought the definitive edition. Won't be shocked if they don't put it back on Steam.
There was ways to update games - but it was not easy. You had to edit, finalize the game in question, process it to disc and package it. Then once that is done, announce a recall, and have all original copies shipped back and replaced with the new copies. Then ship out all the new copies and have stores pull their stock of old copies to replace with the new ones. Old "defective" copies that got sent back - destroyed. Job done. Any left in circulation or already purchased that were not returned - nothing happened.
So you can see why the game had to be as perfect as possible the first time, and would be playtested for weeks with a wide variety of sample players.
I just got Version 1.0 of GTA Vice City on PS2 after years of searching. The Haitian Unfriendly version. The copy of Vice City that I have and have always had since 2002 is the Greatest Hits version which is the Haitian Friendly (edited) version. The Greatest Hits issues of PS2 games always contained patches, bugfixes, and additional content than the launch day copies.
Enxgma then: "Logic"
Enxgma now: "Definative"
Not definitive DEFECTIVE EDITION
defective*
definitive prank
Also no more Enxgma’s OG music Slenderbeats! 🤭
ENXGMA:**takes notes for these new names for gta the trilo**Mmm..interesting, I will put it in a video
I love how the helicopter blades in the Defective Edition spin so slow that you can actually count the rotations. That's how you know you nailed it!
Defective 😂😂
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This is the funeral of a Rockstar impeccable reputation. I hope they fix it and kick out the subsidiary studio
Wait that's why those buildings felt like mobile games lol
It literally looks like Google Earth
Why they fix an old game? No they dont put effort on this...
This is just for dumb people to buy until they wait for gta 6
@ThaAndriu the definitive edition is based off the mobile port
Impeccable? Have you seen the state of GTA online? They're just like every other evil greedy company now
With the R* logo pool, it wasn't even on the map in the OG version, it was just another easter egg to discover while exploring. Putting it on the map ruins that.
Yup i couldnt play it after that it was so game breaking for me that pool is so important.... not..... grow up its a pool
@@SemajResarf a good game is made out of details. That was a detail they wanted to add, it was a bad decision and they did it bad too... So it's totally legit to get upset, since the game is already garbage for everything else.
@@LuckyZoom7299 you people nitpick over some stupid ass shit vice city seems like the best 1 out of the 3 from wut iv seen
@@chiefmegaton4227 and yet, it still is worse than the original.
@@SemajResarf oh somebody have different opinion than my which is the best opinion in the universe I have to destroy him with irony and sarcasm and only then I'll find peace grow up people opinions can vary
These "definitive" Editions are insults to the original games. Let's be honest.
The Mass Effect remasters were actually dope and worth the money. This is just embarrassing
I agree.
@@twobirdsstonedatonce ye
It's worse than that. They are scamming people out of money
glad i didnt waste my money. i'll stick with the originals.
1:51 both Tommy's forgot they can't swim
but a mod can save Tommy
I never realised that the Vice City logo actually changed, they reversed the colours and inversed the white. So now instead of looking like a Neon 80s style logo it's just a bland purple with black outline style logo.
Says a lot.
I prefer the OG logo tbh
@SoundLogik the rockstar logo lmao
You didn't realize because it didn't matter.
It's so sad seeing all of those 80's npc's drown. People often forget that swimming wasn't invented until 1994.
And forgotten back in 2001
its 1992
@@MicrowaveCosmicToast yo mama
Victor Vance invented swimming
Not funny
Fanboys:
"The definitive edition is not bad!!!"
"You never played the originals."
Me, who has all 3 games on PS2:
*LOOK CLOSER*
I swear
I miss vice city
I only had pc my whole life and looks like mods are staying forever even as vanilla
@BHARATH YT it's not probably because it's not build from scratch
@BHARATH YT bro this is definitely worse, at least Cyberjunk isn't insulting a legacy
@@dalelumina3 RIP to all people who buyed gta trilogy demastered and cyberscam 1477
It makes me want to download the original GTA Vice City, download a patch for widescreen, maybe some textures and also cars (or just download the 1980s mod) and that's it lol it would be better made.
I just can't watch such a masterpiece be desecrated so horrifically
Yeah same
It's literally the same game, just slightly worse but still pretty good.
@@stilesstratton9566 "Slightly worse"?!
@@CST1992 yeah, just a few glitch here and there but these issues are few and far between.
It really goes to show you just how detailed the original game was, and how Grove Street Games straight up didn’t respect this in their remaster
It lacked the classic R* touch
For a mobile developer and their time frame, they did excellent. All the other GTAs were perfect because they actually spent the time and effort properly. This is all on rockstar / take two themselves
@@joshylord Rockstar had 8 months to make all of Vice City after 3 released. Out of originality and pure creativity they made a masterpiece.
These remasters are garbage, glad I'm never paying for them
@@wafflebotus hmmmm yeah given that info maybe so, but the resources given to them and experience and support that team had, probably very little. Again I blame rockstar not Grove Street games per say
Dude they only got 2 months and like 20 people working on 3 games. Rockstar don't even care about they request
I want the "man you're an embarrassment" be a traditional meme in ENXGMA's community
Up
Up
Up
Not high enough. Straight up.
Up
And Rockstar used to mock how buggy and glitchy Driv3r was in the GTA games... Oh, the irony!
That was back when they cared lol
They Also said that "games shouldn't be rushed" when cyberpunk was a disaster
Driv3r was better than any GTA.
Except Gta 4 and Gta 5.
Even the bugs in the game didn't make the game bad.
@@papytromblon trilogy is still better than cyberpunk
@@vukcevu5854 the original trilogy not the remaster
1:51 WTF !? é água ou o T-1000 do exterminador do futuro derretido ?
OBS: Vídeo sensacional cara.
ENXGMA should've been hired as a QA tester by Rockstar
Hehe you almost make it seem this was tested
This seems like one of those games where they just ignored the QA testers. They must have known about at least some of these issues, they just shipped it anyway.
R* did have modders willing to fix the game for fun but take2 and them said nah even though they would do it for free
cf rafa
@DaDripper 😭
Man, it pains me to see the top games of my childhood that gave me a billion hours of entertainment end up like this.
The newer generation will not know what we've respected these games for.
I was hoping in a true remake, imagine playing GTA vice city but with GTA 5 level of detail and engine but nope we got a lazy a** remaster, not even a lazy remaster, a straight downgrade.
@@greggreg2458 I was expecting the level of detail which is in GTA IV not V
Truly a shame. To me Vice City is still greatest sandbox game of all time. Feels like home everytime i replay it.
But nothing is sacred, as long as corpos want more money.
@@D_Rac_Onis my expectations were low af, literally just expected a fresh coat of paint and some quality of life improvements and I still got let down
I think it looks good and its only to hold us off until their next release which is going to be revealed in the next coming weeks. That's why they had another company take this project over they're very busy trying to release their next triple a title
911 : "what's the emergency?"
Tommy : "A fire outbreak under the water"
lol
911:"Say no more fam."
underrated 🤘
@@Alex-cw5fe holy shit whats up Alex
1:37 wow, look at that beautiful water effect in the original version 😍😍
7:57 o my god lolololol 😂😂
Something else I noticed about the helicopters in the original vs the "definitive":
In the og VC, the helicopter's blades actually look like they're spinning fast enough to keep it in the air, in the "definitive" VC, they spin so slow that it looks like you're about to drop out of the sky at any second
Ikr, it’s bothering the crap out of me
The nav lights look numb as hell also, like big glowing orbs in broad daylight.
Yeah that's perhaps the detail that bothers me the most with the Defective Editions, they made aircraft blades work in an extremely unrealistic RPM range, Not to mention the lack of motion bloor, which the originals had, which also helps to give the impression of higher rotation speed.
I like that they gave aerial vehicles proper navigation lights on this, but that's pretty much the only thing they did right in this disaster.
Yeah noticed that too. I was like the blades barely look like they are rotation
Although, if you realized, they’re somewhat fine on the police chopper. How’d they fuck this up so badly
_"Its evolving, just backwards"_
- Everyone after playing the "Definitive" edition
Not all evolutions are actually beneficial!
Defective* edition
Definitive shit edition*
@@spliff9976 You are absolutely right my friend
@@daredevil4788 PERFECTION
When you realize the real reason they removed the mods is because they did a better job than they ever could
They should respect their fans, hell, maybe even hire them. They could have given these games so much needed life.
Rockstar trying to compete with Nintendo, so nice 😎👍
I think maybe they were trying to do what paramount did with the sonic the hedgehog trailer, release a crappy version, everyone goes nuts, then they fix it, get praised and everyone sees the film. Except they fucked up and released the game instead of a preview.
@@dybixs1400 The problem isn't exactly Rockstar. They are probably as desperate as us. Take Two however...
Actually is not that they did a better job than they ever could, Rockstar has proved all of its life to be the best one in little details (like in RDR 2) is now that they’ve become lazy about it that the community is a angry; Because they know how much of a better work Rockstar could have done.
Ken Rosenberg:
"THIS IS A DISASTER". 😂😂😂
The sad part is that now we will start to miss about Rockstar caring about their fans. They don't give a shit anymore.
Rockstar didn't develop the difinitive edition but instead they hired mobile game devs to do it
@@justblue4427 that’s the fact that killed definitive edition
Did they gave a shit before?
@@Plastofam yup they did at least till rdr2 idk what happened to them after that
They will release Gta 6 and it will be a masterpiece. When was the last bad game from Rockstar. Like never?!
I can't believe they couldn't even get their own logo right, that's just ridiculous at this point.
Grove Street Games made that error though, not Rockstar. I doubt they even looked at the "finished" product before it launched.
Where?
The pool
Rockstar didnt develop the game, Grove Street Games did. They ported the og trilogy to mobile.
@@BullworthGraduate Rockstar chose them to develop it despite knowing from the Bully remaster that that studio isn't really good at making games.
90% people don't even know that this is not made by Rockstar. I have no idea why Rockstar would approve something like this and damage their reputation
Yeah, I know Right ?? for a company with such reputation like R*, How this game could pass the quality test is beyond my imagination
@@minhkhoaluong25 There was a quality test?
@@minhkhoaluong25 nah there was no quality control
Assigning such a huge project to people known for the terrible reputation they have and expecting them to do a good job, questionable ngl
Money
Just shows that the OG developers had the passion in them which the current developers lack.
Or probably just corporate management turning into the exact same as EA: money hungry aiming for quick cash grabs
Everyone: Why Release the awful game rockstar?
Rockstar: “I got caught up in the money, the power... I don't give a shit. Oh fuck, man... I had no choice... I had to do it... I just see the opportunity..."
This actually made me laugh lol 😂
@Richard Burke And other funny jokes to tell yourself at night
Also.. I'll have two numba nines
A numba nine large.
Rockstar before that talking to Grove Street games: *this is a disaster, we're so screwed man, they are out there wanting to chop MY head off its RIDICULOUS, im not sticking my head out the door, NO IM NOT*
all the staff have left that's why it's so bad it's no longer the real R* we all once knew.
The more I look at the definitive edition, the more I respect the original.
No
Maybe
@@Thunderclap515 fangay boy?
@@Rags666 get original using gay as an insult so embarrassing and shameful
@@jaymac3798 bro, the guy i reply litteraly dislking the original by saying no bruh
When the moded version is 10 times better than the official remaster.
Fact
Now I understand why Rockstar and take two removed modes
@@arindammishra2329 mods or modes?
Rockstar used to represent the peak of gaming quality. Sad to see they let themselves fall this low. Pride comes before a fall.
Ken Rosenberg: "It looks like you ruined the trilogy, and Rockstar, that was a beautiful trilogy! Rockstar, what on earth happened?!"
@MeIsNoob i love your mom.
@@ILikeGoodMusic313 wow so funny
Rockstar Exec. post production: "It's all bugs Sonny, none of the families will touch that shit!"
good to see ya Stu ;) cheers
Rockstar be like: Shut up. Sit down. Relax. We'll fix this.
US: BUULLSHIIT!!!
@@bleedinactionman8578 i laughed
They say you can’t polish a turd, but imagine polishing a gold master with a turd and then trying to buff the turd. Incredible negligence.
Og vice city was broken as hell
The passion that once flowed across these lands is no more. Games today don’t care about the immersion, the little details that tie everything together no longer exist. Rockstar among many other gaming companies, see us as money. Not people with a passion for gaming. It’s a sad reality when they can’t understand the more effort you put in, the better it’ll be.
quiet down they released RDR2, one of the most detailed games of all time, recently
@@jeetsidhu7912 True, but we’re still looking back at 4 years ago. There’s no excuse for them being this lazy man.
@@jeetsidhu7912 Yeah and what happened to RDR2 ? Rockstar only cares about shitty GTA V
For real
@@delanuma5 This isn't done by Rockstar. It's the ported mobile version.
To be honest, alot of these differences don't matter, and aren't really worth getting upset about.
Agreed. People are being overly dramatic as always
I was hyped, I was excited.
Glad I trusted modders more than the actual developer.
imo, modders know what the people want because they play the game themselves and care about it. not to mention there are billions of modders out there so you have a choice and are not stuck with the decisions the developer made FOR you.
@@aadi7076 yes, I agree at this point
@@aadi7076 modders are scum
@@SemajResarf Convincing argument to prove yourself that you are a R☆ stan.. Good job, bud..
@@SemajResarf better than shitty war drum studios who make this crap
This “definitive” edition is like a 60$ North Korea DLC with plastic designs and milky rain but has less life than a cheap sex doll.
North Korea DLC rofl mad my day
🤣😂
Videos like this need to be made to show these developers up for their shoddy work.
The company gave it to another studio called Grove Street games that make mobile version of GTA series. So they made them all the definite versions on that basis. so its not really made them on the basis of Pc or consoles. They just passed it off to their studio to do the work while the main rockstar games either got lazy or are working on another game. maybe so maybe not
@@abramslion1 they made a bad decision I’ll rather play the ps2 versions
They would just report or delete the videos for calling them out anyway.
@@JamalJay93 yeah but they removed the original ones to get more money
Rockstar exec: Okay, we gotta get these remasters done and on the shelf before Christmas, who do we got on call?
Rockstar employee: Um...Sir, how about us? You know? The guys who actually made the originals and know how they work and know how to properly remake them?
Exec: Nah too time consuming and besides you guys ask for too much money, how about Grove Street Games?
Employee:....The guys who made the mobile ports that everyone hated?...
Exec: Yeah those guys, get them on the phone and tell them they have about 6 months to do those three and I want them to look like brand new, made for modern consoles.
Employee, now nervously sweating: Sir I don't think that's such a good idea...
Exec: Get that cheap labor on the phone, NOW!
I have no idea why Rockstar games released their own Cyberpunk XD
Cause of money?
@@xynicoldb4450 I think u r right!!!
Rockstar gaining money from memes made from their video games : *Where's my money?*
Cyberpunk is absolutely better than this definitive edition 🥴
@@fredysebastian6545 yea
You know what could’ve been clever, if the distant textures was just the PS2 version of the game, and when you get up close you get the definitive detail.
Damn, they needed me on the team.
Good idea actually. I'm not a coder so idk if that is even possible tho
I'll vote for you
Modders are better than pro devs at this point. "Grove Street Games" is probably a fat dude in underwear on a windows 98 computer..
@@bananapineapple6949 no, the fat guy on the Windows 98 PC would've done a better job
@@oceancactusrequiem6232 it's an old trick you can go and experience in a lot of games from the late '90s/early 2000, especially Unreal Engine ones. So yeah, 100% possible.
Every GTA game is too ahead of it's time
No definitive edition can replace it
You could say, so ahead of its time, not even the **future** can catch up it seems.
Microsoft should just make the actual definitive original Xbox versions of GTAIII & GTAVC BC for XSX/S, like they are on 360. They have better graphics and complete soundtracks. The original Xbox disc for GTASA works with XS, but the graphics aren't as good as those other two, but it's a better game than this remake. It's not really BC, as it DLs the mobile port, so needs the Internet to do it, so it's not the PS2 port that's on the disc. It looks and plays better than the original, but is missing some music and DJ voices.
The originals feel more like the time when the game took place, the remastered ones are like cartoons
"That's all folks!!"
Whole trilogy is cartoony from original release. Missions, gameplay etc. Mafia is serious. That's why original was looking real and so the remake. I don't see any reason to play realistic looking game with missions like "pick up the whores", "collect porn magazines on time", "blow up the whole city by stealing a tank from fucking army straight from the street" or "change the color so police cannot run after you anymore". Honestly (beside fucking price) I don't know why players got furious.
@@ARmy2510 Ughh I'm sick of this excuse. The original games very clearly aimed for a realistic artstyle and was at the time of release one of the games that archived this the best. The nature of the missions doesn't fucking matter, that's not what anyone is complaining about, GTA 5 and to a degree 4 also have their silly moments yet they have a realistic artstyle, it was like this from the start. And people are furious because this is a cash grab with more bugs then the originals had, missing details across all 3 games and questionable design choices. Seriously your excuses are almost as lazy as the job Rockstar did here.
@@brotbrotsen1100 My god. Play Mafia, dude. Game made the same time as GTA3. Learn the meaning of "realism" cause you are saying bullshit.
@@ARmy2510 Learn the meaning of artstyle and stop spreading these lazy excuses. Mafia released almost a year after GTA 3 btw and it is absolutely irrelevant to this whole thing.
Really grinds my gears how Rockstar had taken these games, the iconic games that help build the company to what it is today and pissed all over them. It really feels like we have knock off versions of the originals with brighter lighting and better textures. It’s embarrassingly bad when your “remaster” cannot hold up to the quality and standards but forth 20 years prior. Now i know why Rockstar went after and put and an end to the available mods for these games. They simply couldn’t compete. It’s no surprise that this trilogy remaster is now the worst rated game of the year, reflects the effort and care they give nowadays.
Even modders could do a better job, right?
@@GuilhermeMaia100 all gta vice city needed was good graphics and gta 5 controls
Above all that they had all this fucking time all these years and they give us some bs.
Eh i mean i didnt really have high hopes for the game when i saw Grove Street Games was making it lmao, i just wish rockstar north develops gta6
That's because of idiots who are paying for gta online and trusts rockstar with thier wifes !
Recent events raise concerns that the Golden Age of "Rockstar" has come to an end... or had just begun, in a literal sense. Well, unfortunately, it has to happen someday, nothing lasts forever.
GTA 6 better be goood.
I think it has begun, in a literal sense.
When you got the people who made rockstar what it is today, leaving the studio, you know there's a shit storm coming. GTA 6 probably started to be developped when the OG team was there so it's definitelly have some good stuff in it but it'll never be as good as any other GTA i can bet on that
@@bananapineapple6949 you will be waiting a long time.
So this uploader just got so many views by uploading GTA bugs. So many bugs hes making youtube money.
3:17 what's that? group suicide? lol
0:30 That blade spins so slowly I'm surprised it can lift off, let alone impact some trees.
Looks decent when the video speeds up.
@@shakengandulf Indeed, that's how fast it should spin, or use an illusion like the originals.
Just goes to show how ahead of its time the early GTA games were, more processing power isn’t a substitute for good design and attention to detail.
More like back when rockstar cared about the customers and made a genuine game , everyone knows that this "remastered" edition was rushed and a complete ripoff
Original comment: mature adult
First reply: world-revolves-around-me-baby
@@TheSonofabiscuit he isn't wrong
@@o_oro-q1k lol no, he's whining about how Rockstar didn't dump a bunch of money into an old game to make it fresh for his preference.
Each game is $20, compared to originally $60 and not hd or digital.. so he's wrong about it being a rip off.
And it's a remaster, not a remake.
So again, just wrong lol
@@TheSonofabiscuit A remaster is supposed to improve the game slightly while still maintaining the original feel. Not only improve the environments and make everything else worse.
I believe that back in the day they went “over the top” when it came to effects that they could control since the overall graphics weren’t realistic. Now they have the technology and want to hold back? They tried to “redefine” these games instead of keeping what really made the games great. It’s like they were ahead of their time and regressed
The reason they are holding up the graphics is because they also want this crap to run on the Nintendo Switch and smartphones.
@@SammEater The games could run 10x better on the switch and look exactly the same as they look on ps4 but they badly optimised it
I think the console limitations at the time are what unintentionally added to the vibe of the games for example if they could have had a higher rendering distance at the time i think the originals would have been very similar to the defintive edition
Yeah but a car driving into a river just makes a big splash and NPC's still don't float above groundlevel, so imo they were just lazy. Imagine how great that game COULD look if they gave a fk.
I like how the helicopter’s rotators in de doesn’t even spin where they’re supposed to spin 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rockstar: “Do you guys not have phones?”
Everyone: “Nope”
Rockstar:
Everyone: "Do you guys not have functioning human brains?"
They already screwed up the “Remastered ” San Andreas and now this
For commenter that will say its all GSS fault its still R* fault for hiring them
@@Rags666 GSS' fault for the poor quality of the remasters, and R*'s fault for not caring about the final product at all
@@mayonayo2016 FINNALY SOMEONE THAT KNOW WHAT I MEAN unlike those fangay boy...
I love how the npcs see someone drowning, they also jump into the water and drown.
Lmao it made me cackle!
They didn't wanna live after witnessing this disaster.
@@Emperorakhnand They need the Forced Evolutionary Virus, most probably
Gandhi followers
This is what happens when the only concern is 'How fast can we make money?" . It'll be a long time before I trust a Rockstar game after this mess.
Trust Rockstar? Are you mad? You do realize they intentionally advertise GTA 5 to kids, and that's why they added laserguns and the oppressor? If you report 5 year old children online they won't be banned. That's their target customer. And then the kids consume gore in GTA 5 (for example the tortue missions, the dozends of machetes, hammers and knifes you can use to create gore scenes) and get bullied in the voicechat, I don't even blame adults for calling
Really? Cause I bet GTAVI will sell out. People do not care if companies do stuff like this. The gaming audience is so big they can do whatever they want, and people don't actually boycott anything anymore; they talk about it and even say they're going to do it, then go crawling back because they're selfish and have zero integrity and companies know it. Just yet another failing of new generations on the planet. Things weren't like this before social media nonsense, a time when your parents actually stood up for poor quality etc and didn't buy it.
I'm not buying GTA 6 , face it you'll be able to play it for free if you wait
@@Lolp821 this is not true and is the kind of thinking that will really screw the industry if it ever does crash (the gaming industry has been going down since 2017 as a whole in quality it's only a matter of time )
@@Pactastic042 I would say it was a bit before 2017 myself, but I find it very hard to see it any other way, buying something that you don't agree with is supporting it and saying you approve, but a lot of people want to take that stance but also buy it because they want to, that's why it's gone the way it has. I hope gaming does crash, it's a shameless money making machine.
Well I observed that the definitive for GTA has better graphics than the regular GTA cool video bro
I sighed so loudly when you crashed the car into the water the first time. The very idea that a developer would neglect to make a car splash when it hits a body of water at speed, let alone in an update of a game that had such a basic feature almost twenty years ago, raises my blood pressure.
it did splash tho, its just too small
@@Setnochima Ripple effect 🈁 and water splash ain't the same.
@@shaiii-chan yea i know that lol...it still splashed
@@Setnochima Well the splash could be bigger.
@@turbogamer2023 I've always hated any "I don't want my entertainment to be realistic" argument, because it affords people the comfort of deluding themselves. They may or may not be completely cognizant of their reality when they actually "touch grass," but it does seem like an excuse to flip a brain switch into an alternate mode of thinking, and people can become susceptible to the dangers of being able to do that without noticing. Not saying anything about you btw, I'm just saying I'd rather spend my time on something that might make me forget _my_ problems, sure, but not that there _are_ problems. Depending on context this might be completely different from graphics or whatever. But I'm willing to embrace the developer chase for that always elusive "immersions" they're always talking about. When I was a kid I dreamt of video games that looked exactly like real life. So ultimately on several fronts I would say my opinion is about as opposite to yours as it can possibly be without thinking every game should have permadeath, or literally be Sword Art Online or something, lol.
And can I just say, I have no problem with unrealistic games, I just think that on the spectrum of real and unreal devs are making an artistic decision, that I can respect, and since NO game is photo real, or a proper simulation of reality yet, I'm glad there's an emphasis on it in modern gaming. Even if that emphasis is perhaps overstated.
As one who understands game design, what you showed here is how the team built the game, they built the game mostly on automatic methods rather than create and improve things, they really underestimated the game and just made a quick transfer to a new engine and forgot some things that existed in the original game.
Something like this can not happen because of a mistake, it is something that is done intentionally and with contempt, and people do not understand it.
Please, this comment needs more likes. I just see a lot of kids defend this BS like it ain't R* fault.
indeed its R* fault, NOT developers fault.
@@acanguy8542 its both. the devs made this game, rockstar allowed it and removed the orignal games from being purchased
The QR and design team at GSG both only had 1 year experience. The lead programmer had 9 years experience but not with PS2 era games - just mobile stuff.
@@visceraeyes525 Read the comment after yours. If you hire that team knowing what game they are supposed to design, you're 100% at fault, there's no one else to blame. Game developers will literally outsource responsibility knowing exactly what they are doing, knowing that the game will be complete garbage because anyone with 2 brain cells and a basic understanding of these games can see that. They knew the game would sell, and they knew it would be garbage. You can't take any blame away from them. They will find a company that will produce a buggy game on their terms, no need to point fingers at that company. EA did the same thing, they remastered one of their most successful games, NFS MW, made millions with it, outsourced the responsibility and just shut down the servers leaving players who had invested several THOUSAND $ with no game to play. They knew exactly what they were doing, they milked the customer base and then moved on. It was still profitable to keep the servers up, so either the license ended or EA told them to shut down the servers to sell their next game. In this case it was at least an actualy remastered version, but towards the end they started adding broken things and tried very hard to get the last penny out of their players by including achievements and coming up with all kinds of ridiculously priced new cars. In my opinion all people involved are despicable in the EA case, but as far as this GTA series goes unless the mobile developer tries to cashgrab with microtransactions they should take no blame. If I'm Rockstar and I hire a homeless person to remaster SA and take 99% of his profits then how is the homeless person to blame for the quality of the resulting game?
Everytime i think Enigma is exaggerating, he just convinces me every time. Holy shit mods that exist for the normal GTA games to enhance graphics make it WAY better than this. Wait the OG games themselves are just way better
@A RUclips channel So disappointing 🤦♂️
show me one mod lol just talking trash
@@jessenthebenezer yo how much rockstar paid you to defend them?
@@amd.0001 nothing lmao all that matters to me is if I'm enjoying it and I 100% am
@@amd.0001 I'll ask you one more time, show me one mod that looks better lol, I am a modder btw, I made the swim mod for vc.
If they just wanted the trilogy to look better, they should have just made an add-on that would just change the textures, particles, and add a shader. Not reprogram the whole damn game!
I've noticed that Grove Street Games removed the blur effect that occurs when vehicles go extremely fast or the player falls a long distance, so the helicopter blades lacking a realistic-looking speed could be a loss of that same blur effect.
If Grove Street Games are a thing then is the mod community behind GTA are Ballas Games?
@@DustyEchozy See, but the modders are the good guys here
@@DustyEchozy modders are probably vagos
I played the Og version over and over and there’s still streets I’ve never been down. Truly a classic.
OMG tell me about it im 33 and had this game when it came out still have not beaten it
@@royjonesjr1117 The ending is legendary.
@@royjonesjr1117 no way, this is one of the shortest gta’s ever
Doubtful, the VC map is pretty small. Especially if you've 100%ed it. GTASA is a possibility for not driving every road.
Rockstar north yelling at Grove street games: *this is a disaster, we're so screwed man, they are out there wanting to chop MY head off its RIDICULOUS, im not sticking my head out the door, NO IM NOT!*
The fact that the devs forgot what the Rockstar logo looked like is another piece of evidence that R* passed the project off to GSG and then didn't even look at the final product before launching it.
I noticed that in the Definitive edition, the bright white lights don't come on when you're reversing a car. In the original Vice City, the white reverse lights would always come on when you were backing up a car. It's a very minor detail but it makes me feel that the original just did some things better.
There was zero attention to detail whoever developed the remaster. Supposedly a mobile game company
"the original just did some things better." SOME?! The Defective Edition's resolution is better, that's all, but still looks worse than the Xbox versions of III & VC. Everything else is worse. And SA is BC on XSX. You're better off using the OG Xbox discs in a 360 for VC & III.
I love how cynical the head of Groove Street Games on Twitter was praising their own work on this trash saying that their work was under a lot of scrutiny and they were really proud of this. God damn, these games are really important to many of us because they left a mark in the industry. It seems that Wardrum games now Groove Street don’t see that instead they only care pushing out the thing with bare minimum effort
Maybe that's the best they could do seeing as they're mobile game developers..
I wasn't expecting much when I knew it was them anyway. Rockstar are the ones to blame, I'd say this small studio didn't demand much money and Rockstar went greedy and didn't care about the quality
That moment when all of the pedestrians ran into the water and killed themselves drowning has got me choking on my food. 🤣💀
What are you eating?
@@zacharynielsen7508 human flesh
@@edditz7552 oh can I have some?
@@zacharynielsen7508 were*, dont think they would eat 8 hours straight+
@@zacharynielsen7508 Dinner at the time was a knockoff _Jambalaya_ rice dinner. Lol
But human flesh doesn't sound that bad either... 😋🍽
Incrível como o Game original de décadas atrás é bem melhor que esse "remasterizado".
This dude is a master for game logic vids keep up the good work!
The strange thing is that you have of very realistic lights, reflection, but the fact that is applied to old models (npc, cars, building) makes the original ones more realistic in certaim ways
As much as I enjoyed these 3 games years ago when they originally released, and as hyped as I was when I heard a definitive trilogy was being made, I'm glad I didn't let nostalgia dictate my purchase, and instead waited for reviews and vids such as these. I'll just stick with the o.g. versions, if i feel the need to relive any of these games, thank you 😉.
I actually have SA on 360 but never even tried it. Make me think I will see how they did since I haven't played these games since ps2
@@codered2224 The 360/ps3 versions are utter trash, mobile ports made by the same clowns that done the 'definitive editions' you see here. Dont even bother.
@@j.e.wattes8991 I have a hard time believing that a disc version is trash. Seriously doubt it but I will see
@@codered2224 no it is any gta classics made on newer gen(ps3 + Xbox 360+ are ported from the mobile version which is lazy and just sad because the OG versions have that extra quality about them
@@sapashini2613 so far the 360 version is fine just minor things
The police helicopters in the definition version are multi color. *WHAT A DISASTER*
"ONCE AN OG VICE CITY, ALWAYS AN OG VICE CITY!"
- Anonymous
Ehh still havin a great time with the D.E lol lowkey more fun than i did with the ogs
@@O.G.1Love but not if youre actualy want to play the game siriously.. only fun becouse of stupid bugs
@@oldacount12 nahhh both serious & fun and i grew up and loved the ogs 💯
@@O.G.1Love i grew up on gta 3 vc and sa too. But for me seeing all these bugs and bad grapics. It aint worth 60€ for the def edition full of bugs 20 years later...
@@oldacount12 lol wouldnt be a GTA without its bugs lol plus 20$ a game is definitely worth it to go down nostalgia ave 💯, but ayy agree to disagree
We = what made you flip out like that?
Rockstar = I got caught up in money and power
You work fast Nigga...
Rockstar: Hope when I'm gone, everyone gonna remember my name, Rockstar (Dies).
We: Man, what a waste.
I like how the definitive edition makes me appreciate the originals more 😅
We gotta give props to rockstar tho they're working on so many games at once most obvious one is GTA 6 and the definitive editions of the trilogy didn't get that much attention and hard work that's why they're so bad
Cyberjunk: finally a worthy opponent
Ayyy
“Cyberjunk” yo I’m crying 😂
Nah GTA Trilogy at least is playable
This is just showing me how ahead of its time the original was.
Yes it is. But the definitive is also behind his age
Actually, Rockstar is becoming too much overproud on their work. Rockstar used to work hard in previous games when they weren't popular much. But Rockstar now even banned modding definative where modders actually fixed their bugs and glitches but its rockstar you know they weren't able to digest the fact
Not really ahead, more like the current people didn't give a shit ass about the remaster
@@seige8621 Uh no... It definitely was ahead it's time.
Everyone now: Hates Trilogy:Definitive Edition( I mean meme edition).
Rockstar Games announce suddenly: GTA trilogy: Definitive edition to be renamed GTA 6.
BRUH
Is it really a disaster though? If you think about it, if you hit a car with a bat, it won’t brake the bumper right away but then again, this is video game vs real life… haha.
Now, we all must Call it a Defective Edition in honour of the OG vice city 🌆
I'm so glad I deceived to wait until the physical release to get these games, knowing I'd be able too see all this on RUclips. I will no longer be getting it. Thanks for saving me $60.
After everything I saw from this game, I can say that, if this game would for free, it still would be expensive
0:25 compare the helicopter blades in OG vs definitive in the next shot. In the original the blades actually look like they are spinning fast because of the blurred blade texture. In the new one they used a "better" texture but in turn it looks like the prop is hardly spinning. 0 attention to detail.
It clearly shows that Rockstar didn't show any respect for this masterpiece...
Wasn't rockstar that made this, it was a mobile dev , rockstar just published
@@pitucaacadela295 thanks for the information
aka Grove St. Games
It was made by Grove Street Games but... How Rockstar approved this?
@ yeah they definitely should have game testers like enxgma , betaz
ENXGMA: Reports that the firefighter meme in Vice City Definitive Edition is still alive.
Meanwhile: Me thinking "I thought that the whole game was a meme".
This is what happens when you let a young and inexperienced development team work on three classic video games in a short amount of time.
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It's crazy to me that Toys for Bob remade Spyro the dragon parts 1 through 3 with not a single issue at all on release, showing that it's possible for an outside studio to remake games well.
Then these guys show up and destroy my expectations :(
7:58 the way Tommy beat the pedestrian and "perfect" echoed is the moment of the day
The fact that they made the helicopter blades too slow and uses the same ripple animation again and again
2:13 The fire *are* actually there. It just simply didn't render its texture thanks to the layering of the water. You can still hear flames from it and it's also why the Firefighters tries to put it out in both version.
At least they took care not to make it visible.