lol I once read a book where the main goal of the villain was to kidnap the mc and have kids with her because her kids would be all powerful and rule the world - fantasy pregnancy tropes are insane
Normally, I'd agree. There's been like two pregnancy related stories I enjoyed. The only one I've reread is Anatolia Story / Red River and her pregnancy (into a surprisingly vanilla miscarriage in comparison to most miscarriage trauma you see in stories) was such a MINOR plot point in relation to the rest of the story.
Right? I want trysts and passion and excitement, NOT THE BURDEN OF MOTHERHOOD AND EXPECTATIONS OF OUR SOCIETY WEIGHING UPON MY BADASS PROTAG! Like, yes WE ALL KNOW single mothers are badassess, but I don't want to read about them doing irresponsible shit to get laid/autonomy back 😒
I hate cheating romance, sibling romance, and the bully romance is a turn off. The only time I have enjoyed a bully romance is the bullying took place 20 years before and the guy changed a lot in that time.
Thank you! I love romance, but it's so hard finding one, because these are my turn-offs: 1. Most important: rape: it's very scary how many romance books glorify rape ("she said no but guy did it anyway but she came so that's ok" ) 2. Accused abuse: too many where the guy is verbally/emotionally abusive but he says he loves her so it's ok. Or his tragic past excuses his behavior. Or it's played out to "not be abuse" (as if controlling every aspect of your partner's life is totally healthy) 3. Also cheating; it's unforgivable 4. Also Sports: it's just boring 5. Also sibling tropes: I agree it's awkward, and it's worse when they become a throuple (even if it's technically not incest, it's still gross to me) 6. Not kink shaming or casting judgement to real-life polyamorous couples, but I don't like the idea of "sharing" your partner. More often than not, the female lead is basically treated like a sex toy that can "passed around" 7. Huge age gaps: it's even more gross and borderline pedophilia when the male lead literally watched the female lead grow up.
And here's mine... 1) I'm neutral on sport romance as long as there is ANY development on their sport achievements, and not just in plain romance. For example: in Operation ZEIT series I am working on, Tajul (MMC) get enrolled to college in XYZ Generation world (the universe where lifestyle of X, Y, and Z generation collided) where he picked up soccer ⚽ as summer sport, while ice hockey as winter sport. There will be development of his progress to get enrolled in college sport squad because he is struggling to compete with other students that much better than him. Luckily, here comes Radia (FMC) who become his supporter and best friend. 2) Cheating is no-no for me. I believe the term 'once a cheater, always a cheater' and it always applies to my stories. Ironically, both my series 'Harems of Metaphore City' and 'Operation ZEIT' has same relationship concept: MMC got into (healthy) polygamy marriage. The reason is by plot progress (inheritance rules which it becone plot hook of the story, or the love triangle that ended with win-win situation) Besides, polygamy is commonly practised in that universe 3) Sibling love triangle is also no-no. In Operation ZEIT for example, even though the MMC are brother trio (Tajul has two big brothers, Khalid and Faisal) but neither of them has same preference on their dream girls. Khalid and Faisal has their own respective love interest, so is Tajul who has two FMC swooning over him and he choose to marry both of them for good. 4) Teacher-student relationship and bully romance also become no-no, besides it's taboo in my home country. And there will be more, but I am more to adventure plot driven writer than romance plot driven writer.....
see, most of these are from contempery romance, as a fantasy reader, i don't find these tropes often, but that might just be me. the one exception is shatter me, but it's not like the trope changed much. iykyk
I agree about all! Except sports romances, but that's because I have yet to read one. Also, my list: 1) ANY kind of love triangles (feels dehumanising to the two people fighting for the third) 2) fake dating (just not my cup of tea) 3) pregnancy 4) love interest with 0 personality 5) age gap 6) I don't know how to explain it but when it's too obvious which two characters get shipped (unless it's a romance book). Like when the protagonist falls in love with the first at least sorta attractive character from the opposite gender and then they live happily ever after. It's so rare that I'll be shipping them. 7) miscommunication
No dear you're never alone. In my whole reading journey I've only read a few romances and that's it, but I do know it is probably one of the most popular genres out there. Everyone is free to enjoy whatever suits them, and just because a large crowd likes it, doesn't mean you have to like it too.
The only one of these mentioned that I don't mind is the sports romance. I'm not super into most sports, but I don't mind them too much in romance books. But all the other stuff? I'm right there with you. 💯
I can't do the bully romance thing, especially because as a queer guy who was bullied, that trope is often used in MLM media. I would NEVER date my bullies. NEVER.
I love seeing these kinds of "tropes that give me the ick" videos because, as someone who mostly reads X-Men comics, I get to discover just how much of X-Men is gonna upset your average Romance influencer. Like, my favorite character, Alex "Havok" Summers, his relationship history goes: 1. Lorna Dane, who falls for him while she's casually dating Bobby Drake. Unclear if she actually dumped Bobby before she started actively pursuing Alex. 2. Alex and Lorna break up because Lorna gets possessed by a suicidal British teenager who has a fuckton of trans lesbian subtext. 3. Alex is then seduced by his brother's estranged wife, Maddie Pryor, while Maddie is trying to self-actualize. She forcefems him a little when she has her villain arc, and then she dies. 4. Alex and Lorna get back together after Lorna's no longer possessed an Alex has briefly been psychically bonded to a teenager with a crush on him. 5. Alex gets yeeted into the body of another version of himself that's married to that universe's Maddie. 6. While there, he hooks up with the nanny, Elektra. 7. While he's doing all this, his body is being looked after by a nurse named Annie who's developed a parasocial relationship with his comatose body. 8. After he wakes up, he's peer-pressured into marrying Lorna, but starts developing feelings for Annie, who is [drumroll] dating Bobby Drake. 9. Alex leaves Lorna at the altar for Annie. 10. Annie just takes her kid and dips one day, I don't know what happened there. 11. Alex and Lorna get back together. Yes. After he dumped her on their wedding day. Compulsory heterosexuality, thy name is Alex/Lorna. 12. Alex and Lorna break up again. 13. Alex, in his Avengers Mutant Diversity Hire era, gets pursued by Janet Van Dyne, the Wasp, queen of the cougars, and they almost have a kid together. 14. They break up because he gets turned evil for a few years. 15. Alex and Maddie reunite after Maddie's revealed she's back from the dead and nobody's noticed. She tries to sacrifice him to demons and dies in his arms when one of his teammates saves him by shooting her. 16. After she comes back from the dead again, he abandons the X-Men to help her run the hell dimension shes become queen of. 17. He gets stabbed to death so she makes him into a zombie to keep him alive. So, yeah. Cool video!
I did try to read 2 sports romances by Stephanie Archer no thanks. But I'm reading the popular one called Icebreaker by Hannah Grace and it's better and I do want to read from her again. But sports romances are very hard to know if they are good or not
My bf is a very attractive man who took philosophy and ethics and then did a stint teaching highschoolers. The student x teacher thing give us both hella ick. 😂
I agree with all except for the bully one because the bullying could have happened when the2 mc’s were young and the bully could have grown up and changed and apologised to the bullied for what they’d done as children
My bestie recommended a sports romance (involving a hockey player I think??) And he called her a whore, accused her of being a gold digger and I never forgave him. Couldn't believe he was end game and I was angry the whole time.
I don't mind sports romance because its a convenient trope but I feel the same about most other ones. I'd add billionaire romance to it, especially when the woman is struggling
cheating i agree, the sibling one is weird, teacher/student ones i can kinda get into depending on how its established in the story, but the bully one i HATE.
what about FORMER teacher/student. As in they were teacher and student that never really had a romantic interest in each other, or the student had a small crush that they all but forget about and then they reconnect about a decade later and gradually fall in love?
The only way I’d maybe be okay with the student and teacher trope is if it was between a COLLEGE senior and a grad student teacher (a lot of classes at my university are taught by grad students) and even then it’s a hard maybe
Now just imagineeee… A story where a girl in high school is a dancer and her coach is her English teachers brother, who bullies her (cause he’s ‘into’ her), and she gets into a committed relationship with her coach (sorry yall) but it gets worse… the girl is failing her English class but needs to maintain it to stay in dance , she asks her English teacher to tutor her but at his house while ‘studying’ he reveals he’s into her and they do some interactive reproduction lessons and then the brother walks in on them and then do with that as u will… Yeahhhh I don’t know how I wrote this I’m literally so disgusted and ashamed of myself I hate all of these tropes
People love cardan bc he turns out to have empathy. He isn’t just a bully for the sake of being one, but because he’s envious of her and, because of the way he was raised, he literally doesn’t know how to deal with those emotions other than via hatred and agression. I also dislike the bully trope, but the bully trope is often “they’re agressive and that’s hot,” not “I’m helping them figure out how to navigate a life of self-hatred, envy and abuse in a way that they previously solved with bullying” (but not in a “i can fix him” way thank goodness). IMO cruel prince ISNT the bully trope.
I only liked Cardan near the end of The Cruel Prince, when he was beat and tied up. But I completely understand the turn off with bullies. I just like more enemies to lovers where both are fighting each other (vs one is more submissive) and are constantly trying to one up the other like rivals. But it gets childish because their brains aren't thinking 100% straight when they are in the room together. Its just amusing watching the gears in their brains turn and has potential for comedy because the reader is getting a birds eye view or an unreliable narrated perspective
Not really a trope but a massive and immediate turn off for me is "I did something i did something (that other char) did something i am so happy!!" Perspective. Like. No. I want to WATCH the characters, not to BE a character. It is just weird.
Childhood friends to lovers. It is so popular but i find it SO BORING. There are SO MANY super INTERESTING and FUN dynamics you can get from characters who have known each other for so so long snd you chose to write a monogamous relationship?? Instead of literally anything else?????????
Is cheating a trope? Like I know we forgive a dude that kills her family and impressions her because... yeah he's a fixer upper. But since when are we doing cheating? Unforgivable, grab a shovel
Im not trying to be mean to anyone but that really isnt a love triangle. Its more of V-shaped love triangle. Or just a V. If it were actually a love triangle you have 2 options: 1- Character A likes Character B likes Character C likes Character A. You can end this one with polyamory and im not sure which other ways you could end it tbh. 2- All Characters love each other. A likes both B and C and vice versa. Thats just polyamory (unless you kill someone and now its a tragic romance) Just needed to point that out there. Another way is Character A likes B and C but B and C like each other but not A. Which sounds like a side pairing in all honesty. Another thing is that cheating is more tragic romance instead of romance romance. Like no actual romance story has CHEATING. The only way i see someone doing this trope is accidental cheating which is probably an ick for a lot of people.
Omg I have finally found someone else who finds those sibling love triangles WEIRD.
Sibling love triangle literally is the WORST I can't
Pregnancy. Any type of pregnancy. I will stop reading a book immediately.
lol I once read a book where the main goal of the villain was to kidnap the mc and have kids with her because her kids would be all powerful and rule the world - fantasy pregnancy tropes are insane
Normally, I'd agree. There's been like two pregnancy related stories I enjoyed. The only one I've reread is Anatolia Story / Red River and her pregnancy (into a surprisingly vanilla miscarriage in comparison to most miscarriage trauma you see in stories) was such a MINOR plot point in relation to the rest of the story.
I'm with you. It's just not what I wanna read
Right? I want trysts and passion and excitement, NOT THE BURDEN OF MOTHERHOOD AND EXPECTATIONS OF OUR SOCIETY WEIGHING UPON MY BADASS PROTAG!
Like, yes WE ALL KNOW single mothers are badassess, but I don't want to read about them doing irresponsible shit to get laid/autonomy back 😒
I hate cheating romance, sibling romance, and the bully romance is a turn off. The only time I have enjoyed a bully romance is the bullying took place 20 years before and the guy changed a lot in that time.
I think at that point it wasn't a "bully" romance it was more of a redemption romance? is that a thing?
ALSO TITLE?
Thank you! I love romance, but it's so hard finding one, because these are my turn-offs:
1. Most important: rape: it's very scary how many romance books glorify rape ("she said no but guy did it anyway but she came so that's ok" )
2. Accused abuse: too many where the guy is verbally/emotionally abusive but he says he loves her so it's ok. Or his tragic past excuses his behavior. Or it's played out to "not be abuse" (as if controlling every aspect of your partner's life is totally healthy)
3. Also cheating; it's unforgivable
4. Also Sports: it's just boring
5. Also sibling tropes: I agree it's awkward, and it's worse when they become a throuple (even if it's technically not incest, it's still gross to me)
6. Not kink shaming or casting judgement to real-life polyamorous couples, but I don't like the idea of "sharing" your partner. More often than not, the female lead is basically treated like a sex toy that can "passed around"
7. Huge age gaps: it's even more gross and borderline pedophilia when the male lead literally watched the female lead grow up.
The very polite "its dreadful😊" dead
Cheating and surprise pregnancy I just can't
You are so right on those sporty romances
no joke the moment she said "A sibling love triangle" I legit started choking on my nothing.
And here's mine...
1) I'm neutral on sport romance as long as there is ANY development on their sport achievements, and not just in plain romance. For example: in Operation ZEIT series I am working on, Tajul (MMC) get enrolled to college in XYZ Generation world (the universe where lifestyle of X, Y, and Z generation collided) where he picked up soccer ⚽ as summer sport, while ice hockey as winter sport. There will be development of his progress to get enrolled in college sport squad because he is struggling to compete with other students that much better than him. Luckily, here comes Radia (FMC) who become his supporter and best friend.
2) Cheating is no-no for me. I believe the term 'once a cheater, always a cheater' and it always applies to my stories.
Ironically, both my series 'Harems of Metaphore City' and 'Operation ZEIT' has same relationship concept: MMC got into (healthy) polygamy marriage. The reason is by plot progress (inheritance rules which it becone plot hook of the story, or the love triangle that ended with win-win situation) Besides, polygamy is commonly practised in that universe
3) Sibling love triangle is also no-no. In Operation ZEIT for example, even though the MMC are brother trio (Tajul has two big brothers, Khalid and Faisal) but neither of them has same preference on their dream girls. Khalid and Faisal has their own respective love interest, so is Tajul who has two FMC swooning over him and he choose to marry both of them for good.
4) Teacher-student relationship and bully romance also become no-no, besides it's taboo in my home country.
And there will be more, but I am more to adventure plot driven writer than romance plot driven writer.....
Sibling love triangle is literally shatter me series Omg
Noooo I own that book but I didnt read it yet now I know this 😭😭
@@DisneyIsLife_ omg I’m sorry 😭🙏
@@slxxpy33 its okay I'll give my best to forget it 😭
@@DisneyIsLife_it’s a little bit different don’t worry! I wouldn’t make that I reason not to read the book :) and it doesn’t come up that often anyway
Not really...I mean technically yes, but they are already awkward/rivals sooo I wouldn't count it
Sport romance is the only passable one for me, out of them
see, most of these are from contempery romance, as a fantasy reader, i don't find these tropes often, but that might just be me. the one exception is shatter me, but it's not like the trope changed much. iykyk
Sibling love triangles are kinda weird but I can’t lie the summer I turned pretty I LOVEDDDDDDD it way to much 😂 so read the summer I turned pretty
+ accidental pregnancy as a deus ex machina that magically "solves" all the problems for the couple that kept them apart
second chance trope gives me major ick
I agree about all! Except sports romances, but that's because I have yet to read one. Also, my list:
1) ANY kind of love triangles (feels dehumanising to the two people fighting for the third)
2) fake dating (just not my cup of tea)
3) pregnancy
4) love interest with 0 personality
5) age gap
6) I don't know how to explain it but when it's too obvious which two characters get shipped (unless it's a romance book). Like when the protagonist falls in love with the first at least sorta attractive character from the opposite gender and then they live happily ever after. It's so rare that I'll be shipping them.
7) miscommunication
No dear you're never alone.
In my whole reading journey I've only read a few romances and that's it, but I do know it is probably one of the most popular genres out there.
Everyone is free to enjoy whatever suits them, and just because a large crowd likes it, doesn't mean you have to like it too.
I totally agree with all these! I thought I was the only one ❤
The only one of these mentioned that I don't mind is the sports romance. I'm not super into most sports, but I don't mind them too much in romance books. But all the other stuff? I'm right there with you. 💯
I agree with all of them. Especially teacher/student, doctor/patient, etc. all a big no for me 😅
I can't do the bully romance thing, especially because as a queer guy who was bullied, that trope is often used in MLM media. I would NEVER date my bullies. NEVER.
The siblings love triangle family function thing you are taking about is what I have been saying this whole time 😂
I really hate enemies to lovers and student/teacher trope but my only exception to these tropes was the Folk of the air trilogy and Love Hypothesis
Only reason i havent read the inheritance games yet😭
Agree to all of these, sister!
I love seeing these kinds of "tropes that give me the ick" videos because, as someone who mostly reads X-Men comics, I get to discover just how much of X-Men is gonna upset your average Romance influencer.
Like, my favorite character, Alex "Havok" Summers, his relationship history goes:
1. Lorna Dane, who falls for him while she's casually dating Bobby Drake. Unclear if she actually dumped Bobby before she started actively pursuing Alex.
2. Alex and Lorna break up because Lorna gets possessed by a suicidal British teenager who has a fuckton of trans lesbian subtext.
3. Alex is then seduced by his brother's estranged wife, Maddie Pryor, while Maddie is trying to self-actualize. She forcefems him a little when she has her villain arc, and then she dies.
4. Alex and Lorna get back together after Lorna's no longer possessed an Alex has briefly been psychically bonded to a teenager with a crush on him.
5. Alex gets yeeted into the body of another version of himself that's married to that universe's Maddie.
6. While there, he hooks up with the nanny, Elektra.
7. While he's doing all this, his body is being looked after by a nurse named Annie who's developed a parasocial relationship with his comatose body.
8. After he wakes up, he's peer-pressured into marrying Lorna, but starts developing feelings for Annie, who is [drumroll] dating Bobby Drake.
9. Alex leaves Lorna at the altar for Annie.
10. Annie just takes her kid and dips one day, I don't know what happened there.
11. Alex and Lorna get back together. Yes. After he dumped her on their wedding day. Compulsory heterosexuality, thy name is Alex/Lorna.
12. Alex and Lorna break up again.
13. Alex, in his Avengers Mutant Diversity Hire era, gets pursued by Janet Van Dyne, the Wasp, queen of the cougars, and they almost have a kid together.
14. They break up because he gets turned evil for a few years.
15. Alex and Maddie reunite after Maddie's revealed she's back from the dead and nobody's noticed. She tries to sacrifice him to demons and dies in his arms when one of his teammates saves him by shooting her.
16. After she comes back from the dead again, he abandons the X-Men to help her run the hell dimension shes become queen of.
17. He gets stabbed to death so she makes him into a zombie to keep him alive.
So, yeah. Cool video!
AAGAGAHAH YES you are so correct on all these
Never related to someone this much more in my whole life
I did try to read 2 sports romances by Stephanie Archer no thanks. But I'm reading the popular one called Icebreaker by Hannah Grace and it's better and I do want to read from her again. But sports romances are very hard to know if they are good or not
My bf is a very attractive man who took philosophy and ethics and then did a stint teaching highschoolers.
The student x teacher thing give us both hella ick. 😂
Sibling love triangle only works in "while you were sleeping" change my mind!
She basically called out the Inheritance games lol
I’m sorry… reverse harem/harem. No thank you!! If you like it, all power to you. But NOT for me
What is that?
@@0-Sweet-Cloud-0 if you don’t know… you are either too young or too innocent for me to tell you. Plus, you don’t wanna know!
@@Oliveequality I am not, I am just not familiar, and I looked it up
Wow...now I know what not to read
@@0-Sweet-Cloud-0 yeah, sorry! I just really did not want to tell you lol! Now you know 🤣😭
I agree with all except for the bully one because the bullying could have happened when the2 mc’s were young and the bully could have grown up and changed and apologised to the bullied for what they’d done as children
SPITTING FACTS ABOUT THE LOVE TRIANGLE ONE OMG?!
Wow I agree with pretty much all haha
My bestie recommended a sports romance (involving a hockey player I think??) And he called her a whore, accused her of being a gold digger and I never forgave him. Couldn't believe he was end game and I was angry the whole time.
Not book related, but you give me Victoria from HIMYM vibes 😊
I don't mind sports romance because its a convenient trope but I feel the same about most other ones. I'd add billionaire romance to it, especially when the woman is struggling
cheating i agree, the sibling one is weird, teacher/student ones i can kinda get into depending on how its established in the story, but the bully one i HATE.
I agree with her like maybe not about the sports but the rest 4 real. I hate the other ones
Finally someone who finds sport romance boring,for me it's been like this for a while.. wven the icebreakers book
Girl I totally agree with u
what about FORMER teacher/student. As in they were teacher and student that never really had a romantic interest in each other, or the student had a small crush that they all but forget about and then they reconnect about a decade later and gradually fall in love?
Don't love any of these tropes either!
The only way I’d maybe be okay with the student and teacher trope is if it was between a COLLEGE senior and a grad student teacher (a lot of classes at my university are taught by grad students) and even then it’s a hard maybe
Now just imagineeee…
A story where a girl in high school is a dancer and her coach is her English teachers brother, who bullies her (cause he’s ‘into’ her), and she gets into a committed relationship with her coach (sorry yall) but it gets worse… the girl is failing her English class but needs to maintain it to stay in dance , she asks her English teacher to tutor her but at his house while ‘studying’ he reveals he’s into her and they do some interactive reproduction lessons and then the brother walks in on them and then do with that as u will…
Yeahhhh I don’t know how I wrote this I’m literally so disgusted and ashamed of myself I hate all of these tropes
100% agree with each and every one of these, you're not alone 🫶🏻🫶🏻
For me it’s the age gap😭😭😭
I hate all of those so freaking much minus the sport romance, those are fine for me. Other stuff? Ugh, disgusting
EXACTLY! 💯 ❤🎉
Yes, all of these!! Yuck!
I’ve had trouble finding variety with lesbian books, often theres a turnoff somewhere in it that you kinda just have to look over.
You deserve all the likes and follows.
Sibling love triangles are 🤮🤮🤮
Im fine witb most of these, except cheating, sibling romance, and the student teacher trope
I agree with every single one, hahaha
THE BULLY ONE. Everyone loves cruel prince and I HATE it for this reason. Don’t understand why everyone loves cardan
People love cardan bc he turns out to have empathy. He isn’t just a bully for the sake of being one, but because he’s envious of her and, because of the way he was raised, he literally doesn’t know how to deal with those emotions other than via hatred and agression. I also dislike the bully trope, but the bully trope is often “they’re agressive and that’s hot,” not “I’m helping them figure out how to navigate a life of self-hatred, envy and abuse in a way that they previously solved with bullying” (but not in a “i can fix him” way thank goodness). IMO cruel prince ISNT the bully trope.
I only liked Cardan near the end of The Cruel Prince, when he was beat and tied up. But I completely understand the turn off with bullies. I just like more enemies to lovers where both are fighting each other (vs one is more submissive) and are constantly trying to one up the other like rivals. But it gets childish because their brains aren't thinking 100% straight when they are in the room together. Its just amusing watching the gears in their brains turn and has potential for comedy because the reader is getting a birds eye view or an unreliable narrated perspective
Not really a trope but a massive and immediate turn off for me is "I did something i did something (that other char) did something i am so happy!!" Perspective. Like. No. I want to WATCH the characters, not to BE a character. It is just weird.
… so first person. You don’t like books written in first person.
@@gracemon2oethank you 😭😭
I fucking hate sports romances I am so happy I’m not the only one
Childhood friends to lovers. It is so popular but i find it SO BORING. There are SO MANY super INTERESTING and FUN dynamics you can get from characters who have known each other for so so long snd you chose to write a monogamous relationship?? Instead of literally anything else?????????
Is cheating a trope? Like I know we forgive a dude that kills her family and impressions her because... yeah he's a fixer upper. But since when are we doing cheating? Unforgivable, grab a shovel
I agree 😂
Im not trying to be mean to anyone but that really isnt a love triangle. Its more of V-shaped love triangle. Or just a V. If it were actually a love triangle you have 2 options:
1- Character A likes Character B likes Character C likes Character A. You can end this one with polyamory and im not sure which other ways you could end it tbh.
2- All Characters love each other. A likes both B and C and vice versa. Thats just polyamory (unless you kill someone and now its a tragic romance)
Just needed to point that out there. Another way is Character A likes B and C but B and C like each other but not A. Which sounds like a side pairing in all honesty.
Another thing is that cheating is more tragic romance instead of romance romance. Like no actual romance story has CHEATING. The only way i see someone doing this trope is accidental cheating which is probably an ick for a lot of people.
Omg yes I HATE the sport romances it’s so Taylor and what his face coded
Yep yep yep!!!
OMG frr
Wait. You’re def not in the minority about sports romances. They’re bleh.
"I know these are unpopular icks"
*Proceeds to give the most popular icks ever*
I'm sorry, someone had to say it.
Pick me