"SCOTTISH LEAGUE IS A POOR LEAGUE!" Simon Jordan claims Palace is better than Celtic for Eddie Howe!
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The celtic job is so high profile that brendan Rodgers left mid season top of the league to go join Leicester 😂
Who won your league not long ago and are in the top four of the worlds most over rated league
@@josibhoyoneil5958 Liverpool won it last year and not in top 4 atm, you can view it as overrated but a lot people pay to get the rights to broadcast it
@VSJ 1987 wasn't the case until you became richest league in the world. Yous priveledged lot get 4 places in comp when I last checked. Well see if yous win...... Its set up for one of yous to win anyway, nowt to shout about
@@NTK94. sure about a 200million respend will sort that out. Europe is set up for 5 countries only...... Fair play... Ye right
@@josibhoyoneil5958 whats with the hate for the BPL what it do to you 😂
Simon putting Jim back in his box as usual.
Again.
Nothing new and the grass green and the sun is set
Anyone who says palace is a better job than the old firm are deluded
@@grantmcroberts4089 or you are just biased cause only people that watch Scottish football agree with you
As usual
I get why Jim is a bit defensive, he’s a proud Scot. But Simon (as usual I have to say) is right here.
is that because welsh teams play in the prem lol
I'm a proud Scot as well but even I'd tell you that the spl is pish lol
Scotland in League A of the Nations League..........England in League B. Life comes at you fast!
You go to Celtic when you’re sacked from a PL job.
You don’t get a PL job when you’ve just been sacked by Celtic.
It's all about the money......
End of
No but prem team will come in when they're doing well... 🤔
This is literally one of the most sensible and realistic sayings out of all of it
Nuff said LOL
I think Jim is hallucinating 😂😂
The drink will do that to ye
What has crystal palace achieved ?? They dont win trophies, they dont have any success they dont play in europe. And now with the superleague the top 6 have stopped the parachute payments and tv money and kept it for themselves??? What now
Palace would hammer every Celtic team since Martin O Neil’s lot in 2002
No, no they certainly would not. During that time they've beaten Barcelona, Lazio, AC Milan, Man Utd and drawn twice with Man City. So don't be a silly wee sausage.
@@tonymcfadyen8302
One off games?
Over a season?
@@nealmceneaney3771 of course they're one off European games. I'm a Rangers fan btw. Just for context, we've done not too bad in Europe over the past 2 seasons. Only lost one game in Europe this season. We finished top of our group ahead of Benfica, Standard Liege (first team to beat them at home in Europe for 10 years) and Lech Poznan. So pretty sure Palace would be dealt with comfortably....
@@tonymcfadyen8302
That’s where we differ.
Over the course of a season Palace hold there own in the PL. the current Gers side could , maybe do the same.
I’ve not seen a Celtic side since 2002 that would certainly finish higher than 10th in the PL. and no Rangers side since that Albertz, Amoruso, Laudrup team. Who to their credit were brilliant
@@nealmceneaney3771 you're right, that was a good side. Rangers did get to the UEFA Cup final in 2008. We didn't have the same calibre of players but we got past some decent teams to say the least through grit and determination
The only thing worse than the Super League idea is Jim White's ability to present. Get him off the air
Well said he’s absolutely shocking
I agree, but I like to think he puts an act on.
@@mpsymonds1 really I honestly don’t think he’s clever enough to do that
He was talked over and cut out each and every time he tried to balance Jordans piss poor argument that's just consisted of slagging the standard of the Scottish league and thinking that the smallest club in London at the dizzy heights of 14th for a slightly bigger cheque is a bigger gig than champions league and European football each season with a unique atmosphere each game and a Derby that is unrivalled anywhere in the world.
@@h8021 you wouldn’t happen to be a Scotsman would you
Jim never fails to make himself look like a fool
Agree. Guy should stick to reading off an auto cue on sky sports. He’s not cutout for radio.
Jim is stating facts anyone who thinks palace is a better job they celtic are deluded celtic get into Europe and win trophies what do place achieve oh aye let's stay in the Premier league
@@grantmcroberts4089 100% finally someone with some sense 🙌
P.S I love how the only time Celtic and rangers fans agree with each other is when we argue with english football fans 😂
He’s a goofy sidekick. He doesn’t believe what he says. He does it for the “comedy”.
@QUAD_RETURNS who's your team? Plenty of people on here shouting their mouth off without nailing their colours to the mast.
Try and tell a Celtic/Rangers fan that here in England, they are not viewed in the slightest respect and they will go nuts. If i was a Manager and I was offered the Palace or Celtic job, I would take Palace all day long.
"give the penny back it's not yours",, lol, that's how you become a millionaire folks. 🎯
@JapaneseSniper1983 and half not. 😉🎯
@JapaneseSniper1983 and "obviously" we all knew it was a joke,,, doesn't take away from the fact there's an element of truth to it..🎯
The easiest way to become a millionaire is to be born a billionaire.
You mean that's how you have to be around a scotsman.
Palace are nowhere near bigger than Celtic but the prem is so much better so palace would be the best place to go
If palace were in the Scottish league, they would win it
@@dwaynedibley997 no they wouldn't, they'll be 5th
@@Jimmy-sq6ne behind who? They have Celtic rangers and then a bunch of part timers
@@dwaynedibley997 Aberdeen and Hibs
@@dwaynedibley997 no they wouldn't rangers and celtic would batter then fact.
Jordan is right. Jim keeps banging on about European nights, but they haven't had a semi decent run in Europe in nearly a decade
In the last decade Celtic’s European performances have declined sharply, they can barely muster a Europa League run nowadays. Thrashings from the likes of Legia Warsaw would’ve been unthinkable in the previous decade when they competed admirably and took some major scalps. The landscape has changed and the Scottish League is poor preparation for facing the European giants. What was it against PSG? 12-1 on aggregate?
We are skint but we do all right in Europa league 😂😂
"Runt of a litter league" - Simon 😂
😂 I think it’s funnier than the word tinpot 😂
At least the SPL is still a original league made up mostly of Scots players.
The BPL is only a good league because of its foreign players.
It bought its success.
🤣
Jim is going full SNP mode here 😂
Nah mate Jim White is 100% a Unionist
Better than all tory lol
@@josibhoyoneil5958 not really
@@welshed ye really
@@josibhoyoneil5958 no, not really.
It's like the argument, do you want a massive house on the middle of no where or a small flat in the middle of a major city.
Once more big Si spot on again
No he isn't he is deluded can he tell us what do palace win. Last time I checked football is about trophies. I can't see palace playing in Europe
Just like when he said England’s under 23s are better than Scotland’s first team only to get knocked out in the group stages of the under 23 euros.
How big will the premiership be when the top 6 gets kicked out, epl will have no tv money or sponsorships and ironically will be lower than spl
@@grantmcroberts4089 If you are talking about trophies, why are you talking about European football when Celtic and Palace have the same 0% chance of winning any of them? Who cares if you get qualified because you play in a joke of a league but when you actually have to play in Europe you get blown out of the water by every decent opponent.
Poor old Jim White is so out of his depth, & Simon's still in first gear.
Its like punching some one on the canvas.
I have a soft spot for Celtic and no connection to Palace but world go to Palace over Celtic in a heartbeat if I was a manager.
Ide pick Celtic anyday of the week. All Palace are is just another London club. Celtic have such a history. I'm English but live in Glasgow now and the passion and atmosphere even on the streets during most match days beats any big payday with no atmosphere at Palace.
@@LeeTAZ-sl7de palace have one of the best atmospheres and undoubtably some of the best fans out there
Shame that to listen to Simon we also have to listen to the biggest joke that is Jim ‘the weasel’ white
Yet celtic there is trophies and palace there is nothing.
@JapaneseSniper1983 barely league 1 standards? How many league 1 teams would make it to round of 16 in the europa 🤔😂
@JapaneseSniper1983 a Scottish team were the first British team to win the champions league 👍 and the best manager in history of football also won in Europe with a Scottish team "lucky to compete in Europe" shut up 😂 Celtic and Rangers have beaten teams like Porto, Man United Barcelona etc. Them teams beat league 1 teams with they're reserves 😭
@JapaneseSniper1983 yeahhh but you're literally saying we have no right to compete on Europe when we have made history in Europe? And for saying we are league 1 standards is bullshit aswell cause rangers and celtic would walk through league 1.
@JapaneseSniper1983 why degrade other countries football? Guaranteed you've never watched a Croatian league match in your life.
Crystal Palace should definitely move on from hodgson and sell zaha in the summer, and give Eddie Howe the funds to strengthening the squad.
Problem is nobody is willing to pay what they want for him that makes it worth selling him. His value to Palace is > than what he's worth to other clubs.
If Palace have to punt Zaha , then they better forget about getting into the top six.
@@russellward4624 you say that but in my opinion he is definitely up there with the best attackers in the league. In terms of goals it doesn’t support my argument but in terms of performances and chances he’s up there for me
@@matthathway5327 but hes not a 70m player. Thats what they've been asking for. Zero chance. If you're gonna pay 70m for a player they have to score goals.
@@russellward4624 Grealish is never a 100 million player too
If Leicester can do it then so can Palace with some backing. The PL is the big leagues, the Scottish PL is Championship level at best.
Not even championship level apart from two teams
Tbh not sure even championship....even celtic and rangers would take 2 or 3 years to get out of championship....the scottish league is VERY poor
Not even Championship pal. League two at best. Tis a shame but it is what it is.
@@markcross125 You say it’s very poor but I guarantee you have never watched a game outside the old firm?
League one then two championship teams in rangers and celtic. Half of the scottish teams are league two standards.
Its not often I agree with Simon Jordan but he's bang on here
Simon talks sense 95% the time
What so a team that wins nothing is better than a team that play in Europe has a bigger fan base and win trophies aye OK then 😂
Shut up!!!
@@grantmcroberts4089 Trouble is what you win does not really count! It's a two horse race. Is it 1984 since a team won it outside Glasgow? With respect, working at Palace would be a step for Eddie Howe, where Celtic wouldn't be?
Unfortunately it is all about the money now. In the early 80’s when money wasn’t so prevalent in the game, the Scottish premier league was probably on a par with the 1st division. You had 4-5 teams able to win the Scottish title every season. It was probably more competitive because Liverpool were dominant as anything. Now they don’t compare at all.
Managers go to Celtic to get a few quick, easy trophies for there CV
When it comes to the Scottish league Jim white is as delusional as Ty from aftv
I was a manager I would go to Celtic. I don't see Palace winning any trophy for years to come. Football is about silverware
That might not be solely the reason for choosing Celtic. Celtic is pretty much guaranteed European football every season and that may be attractive to prospective managers.
Will coach you sheffield or go coach the top team in thai league? Will winning the league in thaild make you a better coach than coaching sheffield?
@@noahbowie5985 getting embarrassed yearly?
Football is not just about silverware. Would you rather play for West Ham or some team that wins the Romanian league every year? (Insert other small league who is dominated by one or 2 teams)
Are you guys Palace fans or something?🤣🤣🤣Okay, maybe we all have different priorities in football. I would go Celtic. You guys choose Palace. Let's see what an actual football manager will choose. Maybe Eddie Howe will bring an end to our argument here.
I would take the crystal palace job if I was Eddie Howe. It's a London club which can attract good players and has some good youth players that have potential. Look at Burnley who finished in Europe a couple of seasons ago and still manage to do well. Crystal palace is in a quality league with super star players.
What can Celtic offer Eddie Howe Palace cant... European football! People outside scotland are more impress with what Steven Gerrard done in Europe with Rangers than winning scottish leauge
Lol? A job that will last more than 6 months
Totally agree with you. it is how Scottish teams fair in Europe that others around Europe gage them.
@Leeds fan yeah.. every farmes league has that tho. I dont understand how is that better than being a manager in the best league in the world.
@@xennori1409 you do know football dose exist out side of England ya clown
Getting humiliated in Europe you mean and knocked out. As he said Football is about money and Celtic make a fifth of what Palace make a year. Palace spent over a £100M in 2016 when the American billionaires came in that's when they got to the FA Cup final the issue is they then stopped the backing after that. Instead of what Villa have done which is keep going. As he said with a new manager and 13 odd players leaving they are going to have to back the manager. That's when the opportunity to do something happens.
I'm Scottish and yeah, Celtic are a big club, but the league itself is a joke. Gerrard's done well but he never had any experience... Rangers is where he's learning his trade (and doing great it must be said) but that shows where Scotland's at.
As someone from Aberdeen the best thing for all Scottish clubs would be to merge the Scottish league and the English League. It is possibly the only way to give Scottish clubs the money of other European clubs of similar size. There are many problems with this but the only way to actually get Scottish clubs money is to merge the leagues together.
@@noahbowie5985 what are the arguments against this? Should definitely be looked at. However as a Hammer I'd be worried that Celtic and Rangers would give us two more bigger clubs to contend with 😂
@@davidprice679 Mate I'm an Aberdeen Hammer. I'd be worried about it too especially if someone was looking to buy a club (cough GSB out cough)
Arguments against it that I can think of off the top of my head are potential loss of local rivalries, increased division between clubs and cities, longer away day journeys (think Aberdeen vs Swansea or Brighton) and potentially massive restructuring of clubs and squads in Scotland. However it's pretty obvious even to me that the best way forward would be to merge the Scottish and English leagues.
The only way I can think of for solving many of these issues would be to enlarge the Premier league say by 3-5 places and have those spaces be exclusively for Scottish teams who once they're relegated would drop into the equivalent of the Scottish championship. The one major issue with that plan is the difference in broadcasting revenue between the Premier league and the Scottish championship is so massive that every club that came up would have a massively underfunded squad for the Premier league. Essentially there is no easy one step fix to this problem and chances are things will just go on the way they are. The only meaningful voices in Scottish football of rangers and celtic are happy because they continue to collect silverware on a fairly regular basis. If they started advocating for a merger with the Premier league along with Hearts and Aberdeen for example then it becomes very hard to stop it from happening.
@@noahbowie5985 I think the other issue is to do with international set up. While some Welsh clubs are in England there is still the Welsh league and Cup with European places. Scotland will need to retain an equivalent otherwise the argument for a UK international side will resurface within FIFA. Outside of Old Firm, Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen not sure many would carry the prestige to hold their own in league 1 long term. As such they'd probably remain in the Scottish set up, but would unlikely vote in agreement of losing their biggest gates of the season and lower division sides losing their potential Cup paydays.
That doesn't mean palace is a better gig than celtic.
Playing European football of any level is more attractive than managing Crystal Palace that realistically can't achieve anything, bar some Leicester level miracle
Yet both Leicester and West ham have good chance of qualifying for European football again this year, like wolves the year before, its hardly miracle level stuff if we are saying the bar is to be playing european football
@@jamesgibson8088 we're not talking about Leicester and West Ham though, it's Crystal Palace. Granted, if another Sheikh was to come in and throw ridiculous money at Crystal Palace to buy success, I'd possibly see the appeal. Football is all just money nowadays, incredibly difficult to compete with clubs with billionaire owners buying success.
@@markmcg8598 Yes if your trying to win the league in England, but you said playing European football at any level, wolves qualified for Europe the same season they came into the prem, what I'm saying is getting into Europe is hardly Leicester winning the league miracle stuff, it would be attainable for Palace with a little investment and a decent manager
Why would the English travel to watch Scottish football when we have Junior Football to go to every Sunday?
Simon is right on this one, Jim stuck with his old man thinking Celtic and the Scottish league ain’t what it use to be
Nearly all the premier would win Scottish League ,if my mom was manager of Celtic or rangers would win Scottish League , any fool could see that
Don’t talk nonsense ur Fulham’s and Brighton’s wouldn’t have there sky money up here rangers and Celtic are competing in Europe we don’t have ur sky deal English arrogance at its best
@@darryncalder7872 but they do have sky money ,wonder why sky arnt interested in the Scottish League ? Really I wonder
@@davidjohnson4498 I would rather watch hibs vs Aberdeen than West Brom Burnley any day of the week, my point was they wouldn’t up here so we’re would there income come from there massive fan base ?? 😂😂😂 football did exist before sky poisoned it u are aware of that ?? Roll on the day Chelsea and Man City’s backers pull out and wen joe bloggs stop paying there sky to fund these over rated over hyped players and btw the so called big 6 are trying everything to make it all about them so pretty soon they’ll pull away maybe am wrong but being a rich club doesn’t make u a big one
But your right Fulham would win spl rangers have beaten galatasaray, Porto and feyenoord aswell as drawing at benfica in past 2 years but we couldn’t compete with Fulham our league would be too easy for them ask Shane Duffy he’s destroyed it up here been excellent
@@darryncalder7872 on a serious note money VAR and players diving has ruined football ,more and more people loosing interest
Old Jimmy White seems to have been offended lol
Tinpot League is the SPL
He’s a total dick ain’t he hasn’t got a clue about football at all lol
The irony of an Englishman talking about Celtic being the first British European Cup winners in 1967 belonging in the past and not being relevant today yet the English still won’t shut up about the World Cup in 1966 🤦🏻
I'm american. If I asked 20 people who crystal palace was I would get approximately 0 people who knew. If I asked about celtic or rangers I'm likely to get a few. Palace are not a bigger club 😂
He didn't say they were a bigger club (which, by the way, is the dumbest football argument anyone could make). He's talking about the challenge for the manager.
Palace is the better job. Celtic are a huge club but the leagues alone dictate palace is the better job.
If celtic were in the premier league then its a different story
Ambitious move in to get celtic back into ucl. How is trying to get mid table with a team better than playing in the champions league. Bigger and more attractive club and chance at silverware. Just because palace play in a money league dosent mean its better n its ridiculous to say palace is better because of money. He said footballs all about money ? Wow im afraid thats so far off it.
@@mikmck3nna i agree. Celtic is the bigger club with the more attractive predicted route. But palace are in the biggest league in the world, can attract better talent than celtic even with champions league football.
Its wrong that palace is even considered a better proposition than celtic, but their league needs a huge makeover in order to attract more revenue, better players, better managers etc...
Would Neil Lennon ever get the palace job? No
Tells you need to know
No because he's done awful the last 8months but doesn't make your point, his Celtic team beat lazio home and away last season, he also managed Celtic to beat barca in Europe last time around, Celtic are a bigger club than Palace
@@stevengallagher635 English fans think how much money you have and players you have atm defines an entire clubs existence. They don’t know what success is
@@1995davidg well success isnt the crappy SPL 😂😂😂
The Scottish league is pathetic .. fact
@@dwaynedibley997 thing is it never used to be
used to be ons of the most exciting leagues in Europe, used to be a LOT more unpredictable
teams like Hibs, Abderdeen, Dundee Utd, Hearts etc all held their own in Europe but since Celtic and Rangers got greedy the competitions completely gone and the rest are basically peasants
Looking at the premier league 20/21 this year if celtic and Rangers were in the premier league where would they finish ? top 10? ..top 6? ...top 3 ?
Would be interesting to see
Actually an interesting Q. to look at early stages of a managers development and the opportunities that are afforded in European competition. Yes, Palace is much better funded club, however Gerrard has enabled Rangers to achieve progress within the Europa league (more so than Rodgers at Celtic), and through the European Coefficient they are in Champions League qualifiers. At Rangers his team improved the performances of virtually every player he brought in across the season, and achieved consistency - hence premier league clubs are after a fair few of them at increased value. Hopefully the club can recover and be sustainably financed
It’s quite bizarre to think, given how we are routinely told that even Championship teams would walk over Celtic and Rangers, that Leicester fell out of the Europa league before Rangers did, and Tottenham are in the Conference League whilst Rangers will be in UCL qualifiers... And then there’s Palace. It will be a massive task to achieve a European spot of any sort (whether Conference or, even more unlikely, Europa). So yes, it’s a more ambitious job in terms of finance and attracting higher value players in a higher quality competitive league, but that’s not the only dimension to it
Gerrard has openly said that Rangers was an ideal challenge to take on as his first managerial project, that he enjoys the intense atmosphere, and hopes to bring them pride through improving their performances in European tournaments, not just the Scottish League🤷🏼♀️ + Can’t only judge the “size of the job” by the competitiveness and financing of the league; if it were that straightforward, Palace would be bigger and more enticing job than a club like Ajax, who were in the UCL semi final in 2018/19. Can’t just be “Premier League trumps the Eridivisie, therefore-“
2:54 jim:
the only way palace know their way around europe is by going on holiday ffs
Its a fact though, Intertoto Cup was an option back in the day
😂😂😂😂
and Huddersfield won the league title 3 times in the 1930's Jim! so does that make them better than Palace?
Yes more trophies
“Might see a picture of parish gurning” 😂😂😂😂
Jim constantly wiping his nose too haha
I'm a rangers fan and you can't be serious with this statement....... People who think this has never stepped foot in scottish football.
@Leeds fan The argument isn't who is bigger. What's of concern here is potential. No-one cares about the Scottish League. It's pub football, with two big teams who win the league year after year.
Scottish prem is about league one standard , I think Celtic and rangers might get to the championship at best but the rest of the leagues teams (who ever they are ) will struggle to stay in the league
@@dwaynedibley997 Celtic and Rangers are bottom half Prem teams in the first season that would build over 3 or 4 seasons to become top 8 or even top 6 teams. I agree with everything else you said though Phil just don't kill me love ya on Eastenders
@@newdelhiman3083 no one who plays for Celtic or rangers are getting in a starting 11 for a premier league side.. that’s why they are in Scotland in the first place
@@dwaynedibley997 So why is Glen Kamara wanted by Arsenal, Leeds and a few top 7 clubs and why is Ryan Kent and nearly the whole Rangers squad wanted by Prem/La Liga/Serie A and Bundesliga teams
Celtic are undeniably a much bigger club than Palace but the Scottish Prem is absolutely Tin Pot league compared to Prem. Tough choice.
Football is all about money, never a truer word said
Whe is Simon Jordan saying 'Zip code'? Are we not in the UK?
The only way palace know their way around Europe is on holiday 😂 savage Jim , aye Celtic dodged a bullet with Eddie Howe he has no passion of heart the way big Ange has
Most people getting paid the same wage would pick Celtic over Palace!
Speak for yourself. Would rather be in London and the Premier League
@@JSF_7 Fair enough, London is too busy for me, the knife crime is a worry, it's not as bad as it used to be up here but that's not saying much!
@Jamie McCarthy So Scott Sinclair was a bad example by Simon then, he went to Celtic and played champions league football
Palace play Hodgson £4.5M a year. That's a 6th of what Celtic make in a year when they win the SPL. Celtic can not compete with prem clubs money wise. As soon as Rodgers got a sniff of another prem job he was gone.
@@stevengallagher635 He wasn't good enough in the premier league he really struggled to score goals. He smashed in the SPL. That's the problem the league is terrible.
What a surprise Celtic or Rangers were not invited into this so called European Super League? Brighton would win that league every single season. Its the weakest league in any European league except the Irish or Welsh which is of course rediculous and practically part time. Scottish football is a joke.
No Brighton wouldnt win the Scottish league, because you wouldnt have the same amount of money available. All your best players would be gone because you couldnt afford to pay there wages, any decent player willing to play in the SPL would choose Celtic or Rangers any day. The Scotish league isnt the weakest league in Europe, that's just rubbish made up from English fans and the reason I know is because you also mentioned Wales and Ireland. Before you say anything I'm English.
Wolves were pioneers of European football ib the 50s before the European Cup was created, Wolves would travel to and host Real Madrid, Benfica, Hungarian teams etc and was world famous, also won plenty of cups and league titles. But as Jordan says in relation to Celtic, that is the past, Palace is a better job than Celtic.
Did they win a European trophy. No. Using your argument we could apply that to Hibs and Dundee.
Disgusting that an EX owner THAT failed at crystal palace should put down the spl the way he did. Rangers have reached the last 16 in euro 2 seasons running. How did crystal palace get this season???, Also when there is so much appalling abuse online should we really talking about other times like this
Palace is a small wee club.
Best clip yet, c'mon you Palace! Haha....
Simon is so right (Again) Eddie However could improve Palace to a top half club in the best league in the world, Why Celtic in a two team league, you're already 50% assured of winning, And yes, I think Palace would be beating Celtic every day of the year. Again Simon is right, when they qualify for the Champions league, they just go out to play in the 2nd rate Europa Cup, against teams from the back end of Liechtenstein or Outer Mongolia.
best show on the radio, deliberately is controversial but i love these battles between Jordan and White, Jordan is the only one who gets how football works IE MONEY
It would be easier for him to go to Celtic, dominate. Then come back home and secure a job ata mid prem team
So he could go to Celtic and win a couple of trophies to secure a midtable Prem job at a club like Palace
Palace aren't even mid table they are a bottom half club 😂
Ye like Brendan did..... Your spot on 😂
@@josibhoyoneil5958 yep the ex Liverpool manager who took over at then midtable Leicester.
@@bencobb5766 two clubs he's won nothing with
That might be true but Celtic and rangers are bigger clubs. If they both play in the priemer league, both
clubs would earn more revenue, which would allow them to buy better players. So Celtic and rangers would probably end up being better than a few premier league teams.
But they’re not in the premier league 🤷🏾♂️
@@alphamentality5802 When did I Celtic and Rangers are in the premier League?🙄
@@prince5009 There’s no point in mentioning premier league. We can use if and buts for lots of scenarios that’ll never come to pass. Pointless really.
@Thomas Gow Yes but there’s no point in mentioning something that’s NEVER gonna happen. Pointless.
@@alphamentality5802 Simons point must not be relevant then because Palace and celtic play in a different league. So pointless anyone commenting or comparing all together because it's all if and buts🤔
Celtic win trophies virtually every year, they play in Europe every season, they have a massive fan base and a great history!
Yet the Celtic board and their players would give their right arm to swap places with palace if they could 😂
Think that says it all tbh
@JapaneseSniper1983 Learning to read isn’t that hard.
Simon is right. Let's be honest Rangers and Celtic massive clubs, brilliant history but standard is fucking woeful.
Yes Simon cmon the palace😂😂😂.
In all seriousness I don't care I just want Howe at our club next season.
Remind me how many European cup finals palace have been to have in their history ? Celtic have been to 3 . How premier league titles have palace won ? Celtic have won 51 titles . How many cup final have palace been to and won and apart from getting pumped in finals . Celtic have been to hundreds . There s the difference
@@ryanmcquade6157 if that's your point as to why Celtic are better than Palace then that must mean Celtic are better than Man City, Tottenham, Leicester etc then yeah???
Why doesn't Roy play Michy? His goal against us was a great finish.
@@ryanmcquade6157 if palace were in the Scottish league they would have won all that too..
@@user-ci6dz8fu3y celtic took two draws off man city in 2017 . .once apon a time celtic were unbeaten against english teams un European cup games testimonials .and friendly's
"Football is all about money" yet rangers got further than the likes of Leicester in Europe and will do again next season. 🤷🏻♂️
They also got knocked out by the same team leicester did and united and arsenal got further than rangers this season
Celtic fan here, the english think they are the best at everything
@@jordanyoung2130 the point went well over your head didn't it.
@Pollywog your soo anti celtic lol get a life
Since the english won the world cup 66, they think they would win every world cup lol
Gerrard is only at rangers to gain experience in football management win everything he can put rangers back where this lfc fan wants rangers to be; but the time will come where a pl top ten club comes in for Gerrard if Gerrard wins everything for the next 3 years then his ultimate goal in the next 5years is the Liverpool job so its a stepping stone but I think personally this is the best job Eddie howe could get as a manager
Jim White why are you working for Talk sport and Sky . And not Clyde1 and STV up here in Scotland. Money ,pure and simple money and a bigger job. They both have a Huge audience and history in Scotland???
You manage Celtic to get a job back in the premier league simple as that.
Exactly what Gerrard doing
Celtic and rangers are as big as Man U and Liverpool that’s what the English don’t seem to get the only thing holding them back is finances , the stadiums , fan base , trophy cabinet are on par with any club in world football , finishing mid table in a league with money or winning trophy’s with a global giant or a club and playing champions league football every year , absolutely no comparison the English are really deluded
Celtic and Rangers are not as big as Man U or Liverpool 😂😂😂 They're not even bigger than Arsenal lol.
When did celtic last qualify for champions league
Fool
Celtic and rangers as big as Liverpool and United . 😂😂😂😂
They can’t even beat Belgian farmers in qualifying teams
Palace would walk that league in Scotland. Look at Rangers, Ryan Kent, Tavanier, Connor Goldson - all championship players yet key players for Rangers. They wouldn't get in Palace team yet win league in Scotland
red star Belgrade have won the European cup and none would claim red star is a better job than the palace job
Remember when Old Firm were begging to get into the Premier League.
They wouldn't get top 6 championship nevermind be in the premier league.
@@safcjoe7062 rangers would easily get into the top 7 of the Prem
@@Jimmy-sq6ne just your opinion mate but I think they'd be in a relegation scrap at best
Give either of the Old Firm the Sky money and they'd qualifying for Europe every season. Much bigger than irrelevant little diddy outfits like Burnley and West Ham.
@@andrewhiggins224 west ham would beat rangers and Celtic
Living in the past, West Brom would win that league! The argument is a joke
Considering they’re in the midlands and have to travel I doubt that
Yeah your right clubs worth millions usually travel to away games on mini buses don’t they
@@billysmith1989 tired legs
5:10 'But you're deluded Jim you say alot of things'. Absolutely brilliant 👏
I agree with Mr. Jordan. The issue is how about they fund the games more, create an Anglo Scottish Cup too show how good they all are.
Simon Jordan saying this the week after 6 clubs tried to slit the throat of the 14 remaining clubs IRONIC!!
Absolute madness mate isn't it.
I bet simon never watched a scottish league game in his life
1 game is enough to see how poor it is
No one has
why would he want to??
Who would want to? It's like watching Sunday league.
Norwich would win the Scottish league let alone premier league sides
Ok so the SPFL isnt the best league in the world and people keep saying that it's a pub league between 2 teams. Benfica and Porto have shared the title between them for the last 18 years in Portugal. Juventus have been champions the last 9 seasons in Italy. Bayern have been champions the last 8 seasons. PSG pretty much last 8 years..Real and Barca have carved up the title between them 15 times out of the last 16 seasons...
but the quality of those teams (except the portugese teams) are much higher, plus most pl fans call every other league a farmers league anyway
@@raphaelnasser7084 You are not wrong there. Of course the quality is higher in La Liga, Germany, Italy etc i totally agree but at the end of the day it is the Biggest Richest clubs that dominate no matter what the league. It is what it is i suppose.
@@lossie76 To continue that theme, the Premier League has effectively been a 2 horse race for 3 or 4 years now as well
Correct Simon.Two big clubs poor league.Rangers and Celtic would jump at the chance to leave.
Didn't Simon single handedly destroy palace 😂😂😂
Did alot of good for us tho.
No.
Jordan is bang on. There's a good argument that the Top 10/12 PL clubs would dominate the SPL
Simon Jordan is speaking the truth really is rangers and Celtic are bottom 6 premier league highest
As a fan I would like Scottish teams to be allowed to play in the FA Cup. I think in the early editions of the FA Cup they were allowed.
I’m an Ipswich fan, we’ve been terrible this year but put town in the SPL and they would finish third lol 😂 that’s how good the quality in it’s in the league is
Not with the same transfer budget and wage bill as livingston or hamilton
Simon is right. Jim's argument is like an American making the claim that the Detroit Lions are "a big club" because they won NFL titles in the 50's and were at that time a class franchise, ignoring that the sport's landscape has so utterly and completely changed since. The Lions are still one of the most well supported teams in the NFL, but are a completely irrelevant franchise. Celtic is still a big club in terms of its support, but due to circumstances somewhat beyond their control (the bad league), they aren't a truly big club anymore. The economics of the situation prevent it from even being possible. If Celtic and Rangers were smart, they'd find a way into the English pyramid, and maybe take Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts, and Dundee United with them. I'm sure they'd have to start low down the pyramid, but Celtic and Rangers would progress quickly. Under this scenario, both clubs also become more attractive for bigger and better ownership groups, and in the Premier League, could become legitimate forces over the course of a few years. Again, the current economics of the game mean a purely Scottish league isn't going to produce a squad that's relevant on the European level.
Hate to admit it but I'm starting to really find myself agreeing with Simon
Palace is a much more attractive prospect than Celtic. There's no comparison. Palace are in the PL, automatically more finances per annum. On top of that it could become a project, they've got a handful of quality players there Zaha, Eze, Schlupp, Guita, PVA, to name a few. I mean if he's being backed by the Yanks then why wouldn't he. I mean Celtic are in a mess, Rangers are gonna go on and win the Scottish prem for the next 3 years I bet. Celtic have to rebuild and it goes no where. PL in itself is such more of a attractive league than the SPL it's mad😂 As for Jim saying Celtic beating Palace over two legs is a joke😂
Keep playing for mid Table how Exciting for the other 14 prem clubs 👏
Villa have a more recent European cup win than Celtic, Nots Forrest have 2. Not sure that really has any bearing in the mind of a player or coach today signing for a club. I’m sure the size of the check and the quality of the opportunity hold far more weight that successes in the 60s
Jim incapable of putting forward or sustaining a coherent argument. Simon (who i don't like) has Jim tied in knots here, every word making perfect sense. Let's be honest, if you dropped Rangers or Celtic into the Prem, they'd be in the relegation spots. West Brom and Fulham have more strength and depth than Celtic and Rangers.
If you go to place and finish below mid table and that’s it
Scottish premiership struggles as we know because of lack of money and we haven't developed players to compete in Europe. But I'd also say am Scottish and I do admire the premiership in england but it should be as good as it is all the hundreds of millions put into the game the clubs down there have it all. Unfortunately for the scottish clubs they dont have a dime to bring in better quality or keep a player sad but been like this for years
Palace,it's a no brainer.
European nights at celtic and rangers are unbelievable until until half time when their both getting stuffed and on the way out .pub league
Aye that is why rangers got to the last 16 and got further that Leicester right
After the super league chat, can we talk about the impact of the Premier league on the Scottish league?
Ever since the 90's Scottish teams have not been able to compete with the money that trickles down from the Premier league to the championship and league 1 and 2. Can't compete with wages or income.
Forget the super league that ruined football, the Premier league has arguable caused the decline of the Scottish game.
Eat or get eaten b
Simon is spot on, if Palace's board back him, the Crystal Palace job is a better proposal for a young manager with aspirations of managing a top team. Celtic is a great club but there is no room to prove how good a manager you are, you either do what is expected (win Scottish trophies) or you screw up and destroy your career.
Great banter between friends . Forthright without personal insults . Open & honest debate . This is the West . Where free speech rules ( just ! )
Bigger club is not even worth talking about but the better gig is Palace. The Prem is the reason why and not specifically Palace, Palace spent more money than Rangers & Celtic put together in the Summer because of the revenue of the Prem. Rodgers & Gerrard leaving Championship winning sides to rebuild a mid table Prem side says it all
this theory ally mccoist already threw out the window, English fans place palace and teams like that in the spl on the money they get from the premier league but when they put rangers or us in the premier league the base us off the money we get in Scotland, its a flawed argument.
Jim made the wrong argument the reason why Celtic would be better for Eddie is he can develop his style of football he tried to bring to Bournemouth a passing active style football. its not going to take much to compete with rangers so he'll be given time to perfect it. It will take years to change the football culture at palace and he won't get the time the most he can do is play the defensive football and hope to get enough results to keep him for a relegation battle
Well one thing that I will say is the infrastructure of Celtic and rangers completely dwarfs palace I have been to selhurst park and let's just say it has to one of the poorest premier league stadiums and their only ambition is to stay in the premier league year after year but if the debate is your stock will be higher managing in England than Scotland then yes obviously but can you imagine how powerful Celtic and Rangers could be if they joined the premier league because they would get far more tv money than they receive in their league?
Good thing the club bought the land the stadium is on in 2010 then. There's planning permission for a £100M stand replacement to make it a 35K seater on the way and a brand new £20M Cat 1 academy site nearing completion. Plan is to replace each stand one by one. That's what the premier league money gets you. Palace have been spending/reserving the cash for infrastructure not players.
@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 well I suppose that makes more sense that what Bournemouth did m8 spend all the money on players and get relegated? I didn't know selhurst park was being redeveloped to be honest with you but it is long overdue ain't it what is the capacity increase then m8?
Back end of “Lichtastein”?😂😂😂
@JapaneseSniper1983 I mean that what Simon said he didn’t say Liechtenstein did he
@JapaneseSniper1983 How did Simon pronounce the name “Liechtenstein”?
Come on Jim! Celtic historically a big club, lots of silverware and regular CL football,
Well, yes but history is just that - history. Lots of silverware because if they beat Rangers then they are champions or win another cup. The treble treble gets them 9 trophies in 3 seasons because there was NO ONE to beat
Regular CL? Yes, usually a couple of qualifiers and out by some team Ive never heard of or cant pronounce, or knocked out in the group stage.
This team would beat Palace over 2 legs???? There isnt a team in the PL that would lose over 2 legs to Celtic at this moment. Maybe Sheffield.
Shut up celtic would beat palace over 2 legs face. Palace are absolutely dogshit.
@@grantmcroberts4089 Yes, but Celtic couldnt compete in the Championship.