“Just trust us” but they refuse to show exactly how they’ve handled allegations. The way she describes the Ethics Review Board means that unnamed people, unelected people, people who aren’t held accountable, are making the decisions that weigh individual rights against a government’s claim to be maintaining security.
The US is shamelessly selling things like neuro marketing, Just like this story, something it is not convenient for people to know and we bend the truth a lot.
She left out the part that’s really remarkable about Pegasus is that it does all that without the hacker user having to click anything on their phone. It’s a no-click.
"The hacker user" ROFL. You mean the VICTIM, the user who is about to do get hacked. I bet you call cheaters in video games hackers too, even though they are not.
Most likely it can. Search for Pegasus 2 software. It requires no action from the smartphone owner at all. The thing is, most people will be an unlikely target. Unless you are someone very influential or is related to
The Israeli government is smart and acting in it's own interest. What do you expect? We can also talk abt all the other countries selling spy software, nuclear devices etc. Double standard is obvious, the motive also is.
@@noam45629 is isreali govt is not smart and unsustainable. The whole industry revolves around selling weapons and creating wars. Unlike other countries that actually have sustainable industries and can be self-sufficient, but no West and isreal doesnt want that so they some way or another involve them in conflicts so they can ultimately profit on others demise. Your idea of smart is my idea of malicious, vindictive, and sinister.
@@StraightAhead135 CitizenLab, along with Amnesty Tech's Security Lab, did the technical heavy lifting in exposing Pegasus being used against human rights defenders, journalists, activists, and others. In other words, one of the only reasons this story is even public is in part due to the work CitizenLab conducted. So yes, if you are interested in protecting human rights, supporting groups like CitizenLab is great.
This guy seems a lot like American law enforcement agencies. "We've investigated ourselves, and have found no wrong doing". Also interesting to me was it was stated that Pegasus was sold to Saudi Arabia forc$55 million dollars. And that any customers misusing the program would have it turned off. My questions are... 1. Is this a purchase, where the customer is able to resell the program? 2. After purchase, what control over Pegasus does the company have? Honestly there are a lot more questions. And I seriously doubt many of them will ever be answered.
At min 6:55 he said "there are more than 100 countries he woukd never sell his product to"....umm there's 195 countries total...trying to sound selective. Obviously he doesn't care who buys his product aslong as they pay him well. Ugh disgusting human being. He will reincarnate and suffer 100x as the the victims that are killed by his customers.
The solution is for manufacturers, developers, etc to figure out how this works and patch whatever vulnerability they are exploiting to make this work. Just knowing that this kind of thing is possible helps narrow down how they do it or at least it does for me and I'm not a ninja developer like some others.
@@8jzX_u1LN_Uez2 I wouldn't call this a zero day since it is known to exist and there are methods for detecting if it has been exploited. The fact that it is possible narrows it down a bit and I'm sure I could narrow it down even further if I knew how to detect if a device had been exploited
@@crypticnomad At a alleged cost of $150k-$300k per device users don’t just target an entire town. Because targets are carefully selected it’s easier for them to keep the exploits from being quickly detected and patched. They know with every device targeted, it’s only a matter of time before the exploits are found and patched.
There was very serious abuses were detected in India by the Modi government who used Pegasus to monitor journalists and human rights activists. But Sixty Minutes very conveniently omitted this.
So according to her statement once the contract is signed it’s IMPOSSIBLE to miss use the software! Right? Alrighty than 🙃 no need to proceed with the interview!
Just surreal and unbelievable that this old lady seats there with people and company from arguably one of the worst human rights violator of the world yet doesn't ask how it potentially violates internally the rights of its citizens and Palestinians . God knows what this pegasus malware does to ordinary Palestinian citizens and activists.
Israeli companies care about money and less about human rights, that is a fact.. and this technology of NSO group is also helping Israeli government to collect information from the Saudis and other Arab countries, so they benefit either way.
The irony of them saying that they don't deal with customers who will use it against human rights activists. Yet, their government just declared various human rights organisations as "terrorists".....
I have experienced this and I am an artist that made Resistance art in 2020 about the vaccines . I am not a terrorist , I am a South African civilian. They did it to me yesterday , thank God I am a Christian and I knew what to do. Bless. ❤
The same people that publicly condemn Khashoggi's killers, also make deals with his killers behind closed doors and applaud Pegasus while they incarcerate people like Julian Assange. Hacking it seems, is ok as long as it's the government doing it, but when a private person does it, it's a crime.
When they showed the screens of the employees in NSO's office, I really was expecting some crazy tools used, but seems like they're not doing anything different than any other security researcher, just disassembling binaries, analysing control flow graphs, and trying to find bugs in the code.
The fact that you're watching this should give you pause. You're able to watch this only because "they" want you to. No reputable spy agency goes on 60 minutes and talks about anything. This was compromised, and now you're seeing damage control produced with the help of 60 minutes.
It’s painful, as a Jew, to hear Tami Shachar say: ‘I think that people that [sic] are not part of criminal or terroristic activities have nothing to worry about’, knowing how NSO Group’s Phantom software has been employed in the United States, and for what reason.
It would be worth testing to infect a smart phone with the Pagues and then check where exactly it is making changes in the system by comparing the before and after state
From a PR standpoint, Pegasus lost the public trust with this interview. That there was no firm statement that the Saudis were stripped of their ability to use this software equals a statement that “We, NSO, will prostitute ourselves in order to make a sale.” Their so-called “ethics committee”? Israelis? Ethics? Oxymoron… And when a spokesperson says that “The innocent have nothing to worry about” you had better start worrying. One needs no further proof than the “contract” signed by their customers. Puh-leese. Score bonus points for Citizens Lab of Canada. Too bad their research has zero teeth. P.S. NSO did not shut down the Saudis.
I wonder what the phone manufacturers think about this. Clearly there must be an exploit in Apple's iOS and Google Android for NSO software to work. Has anyone heard anything from them?
I don't know if it is Pegasus or some other applications, but I am an average U.S. citizen without a criminal record and someone has complete control over my phone and T-MOBILE will not do anything about it. I am a "Targeted Individual", due to Organized Stalking. One time, my tablet called a relative simultaneously showing the inside of his apartment. I didn't call him nor him me, at the time did I have his phone number. He had just moved into his new apartment. Other times when I try to take pictures the camera will blur, and change screens at will. If whomever is listening doesn't like my conversations, the phone will hang up or put the person that I am talking to on hold. Recently, as I was conversations with someone, an Amazon recording came on as if I had called them. Another time I was trying to compel a neighbor's cat to come to me, at the same time a alarm went off on my phone. I have never used an alarm on my phone, of course the cat took off fast.
Something smells very badly behind this company...it is very important to put light on them damn more than just ask them in polite way...they sell it for damn higher price then its mentioned... but why they sell it? There is big role of shadows intentions than we can t imagine. Unfortunately....so a lot of non democratic states use it....but why? What they do with such money? Why is covered by isreal official state bodies but it is working in very high sensitive area as bussinnes company. Please put more light to it....it smells damn bad.
Well if it was Pegasus it would not have infiltrated his phone with a text message, its known as a 'no-click' spyware, meaning just needing your number in order to infect your device and take full control of all its functions.
CBS, 60 Minutes and RUclips repeatedly fail to provide accurate, synchronized Captions, as required by CVAA Law and by 30 years old ADA federal Civil Rights law. They are all complicit in this long-standing, therefore criminal violation. 11/5/2021
The country or government doesnt have to be the bad guy when inteligence agencies do it at will. Have no doubt that this is basic tools for CIA, who are all over the world, not to mention the NSA doesnt even need Pegasus to do this.
This seems like they are trying to actually make Pegasus look good This was a typical piece of deception by the media Pegasus should be banned and not allowed by international law But then again the owners of the company (the Israeli state ) don’t listen to human rights anyway
It's a tough ethical question , between the greater good and the means to achieve it . Secondly the issue of abuse of power by Pegasus buyers, at the end of the day it does help intelligence organizations but there needs to be control of the extent, methods and cases it can be safely applied in.
I don’t see any deception? There were of equal of 2 interviews on both sides of the arguments, with nso group it was with one of the founders and the co-president and with the people against Pegasus there was an interview with the activist and citizen lab.
I guess the best ordinary people can do at this point to boycott these guys is to not elect government officials involved in buying their product. Sadly many countries do not even have functioning representative democracies let alone anything better than that... pff
The fact that we know about Pegasus and that it's getting all the attention just makes me think there are way worse things out in the wild.
for sure every single phone and pc is tracked like this
“Just trust us” but they refuse to show exactly how they’ve handled allegations. The way she describes the Ethics Review Board means that unnamed people, unelected people, people who aren’t held accountable, are making the decisions that weigh individual rights against a government’s claim to be maintaining security.
The US is shamelessly selling things like neuro marketing,
Just like this story,
something it is not convenient for people to know and we bend the truth a lot.
Electromagnetic weapons
She left out the part that’s really remarkable about Pegasus is that it does all that without the hacker user having to click anything on their phone. It’s a no-click.
i mean hover over
Pegasus 2.0 but not 1.0
3.0 it's wild as you only get a missed call and that's it.
"The hacker user" ROFL. You mean the VICTIM, the user who is about to do get hacked. I bet you call cheaters in video games hackers too, even though they are not.
@@tzep3256where is download
They didnt mention it here, but it can infect your phone from a missed phone call, notification of any kind.
God damn that's actually freaky.
Most likely it can. Search for Pegasus 2 software. It requires no action from the smartphone owner at all. The thing is, most people will be an unlikely target. Unless you are someone very influential or is related to
"nothing has been proven" ... sums up in a nutshell how NSO cares about people's safety.
Well you can’t take seriously every fake news , especially when Apple is after you and make sure to spread dirt on you all the time.
they dont want to look 🫣
They do.Trust me.. Don't lose faith
Sounds like my ex .
Who just so happens to co own a business called …
PEGASUS !
Wtaf 😮 😮
@@arl3761
things that make ya go hmmm🤔
Guilty written all over their faces, from the lady to that dude. What's concerning is, the Israeli government is complicit by licensing Pegasus.
Guilty of what?
Love Israel!
Also she says are you guys selling to country that imprisons journalists and violates human rights.. They talking about Isreal right @3:40
The Israeli government is smart and acting in it's own interest. What do you expect?
We can also talk abt all the other countries selling spy software, nuclear devices etc.
Double standard is obvious, the motive also is.
@@noam45629 is isreali govt is not smart and unsustainable. The whole industry revolves around selling weapons and creating wars. Unlike other countries that actually have sustainable industries and can be self-sufficient, but no West and isreal doesnt want that so they some way or another involve them in conflicts so they can ultimately profit on others demise. Your idea of smart is my idea of malicious, vindictive, and sinister.
CitizenLab is also a game changer and a potent entity countering NSO. Huge props to them.
Sorry..? Are we rooting for them now? I didn't get that message..
@@StraightAhead135 CitizenLab is the entity opposing NSO's technology being used to target non-terrorist.
@@StraightAhead135 CitizenLab, along with Amnesty Tech's Security Lab, did the technical heavy lifting in exposing Pegasus being used against human rights defenders, journalists, activists, and others. In other words, one of the only reasons this story is even public is in part due to the work CitizenLab conducted. So yes, if you are interested in protecting human rights, supporting groups like CitizenLab is great.
This guy seems a lot like American law enforcement agencies. "We've investigated ourselves, and have found no wrong doing".
Also interesting to me was it was stated that Pegasus was sold to Saudi Arabia forc$55 million dollars. And that any customers misusing the program would have it turned off. My questions are...
1. Is this a purchase, where the customer is able to resell the program?
2. After purchase, what control over Pegasus does the company have?
Honestly there are a lot more questions. And I seriously doubt many of them will ever be answered.
Yup. Selling weapons is BIG business. Why wouldn't you sell to both sides? Double your customers
@@Dre2Dee2 believe it or not, but there are more important things in life than money and big business
@@cloudenv they’re really is unfortunately many people realise this way too late in life
At min 6:55 he said "there are more than 100 countries he woukd never sell his product to"....umm there's 195 countries total...trying to sound selective. Obviously he doesn't care who buys his product aslong as they pay him well. Ugh disgusting human being. He will reincarnate and suffer 100x as the the victims that are killed by his customers.
“Did you shut down the saudis”? Big grin =no, way too much money coming from them
or that was a Big Yes We Did Grin, having the power to shut the Kingdom, yes I would have a Big Grin to that
@@willie417 very true
That grin is called the "dupers delight".
These guys drown out legal and logical arguments by showing fear of 9/11 or terrorist attack. More rhetoric in their arguments than facts.
Isn't that a charm!
When she asked him about Saudi Arabia in the end, He replied he'll not talk about customers...
5:48 "Do you think I am a terrorist?" ::uncomfortable pause:: Don't answer that Lesley, "it's a trap!"
The solution is for manufacturers, developers, etc to figure out how this works and patch whatever vulnerability they are exploiting to make this work. Just knowing that this kind of thing is possible helps narrow down how they do it or at least it does for me and I'm not a ninja developer like some others.
@@8jzX_u1LN_Uez2 I wouldn't call this a zero day since it is known to exist and there are methods for detecting if it has been exploited. The fact that it is possible narrows it down a bit and I'm sure I could narrow it down even further if I knew how to detect if a device had been exploited
@@8jzX_u1LN_Uez2 and you sound like a self righteous assclown who thinks they're always right
@@crypticnomad At a alleged cost of $150k-$300k per device users don’t just target an entire town. Because targets are carefully selected it’s easier for them to keep the exploits from being quickly detected and patched. They know with every device targeted, it’s only a matter of time before the exploits are found and patched.
In fact, the cost was about $650,000 for a set of ten devices to be monitored, as of 2017.
they probably have quantum decryption power
There was very serious abuses were detected in India by the Modi government who used Pegasus to monitor journalists and human rights activists. But Sixty Minutes very conveniently omitted this.
I haven't heard someone use 9/11 as a rationale this often since Giuliani.
So according to her statement once the contract is signed it’s IMPOSSIBLE to miss use the software! Right? Alrighty than 🙃 no need to proceed with the interview!
Just surreal and unbelievable that this old lady seats there with people and company from arguably one of the worst human rights violator of the world yet doesn't ask how it potentially violates internally the rights of its citizens and Palestinians . God knows what this pegasus malware does to ordinary Palestinian citizens and activists.
Privacy is a illusion.
Against Pegasus, Yes.
Person Of Interest predicted this long ago... As always Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy predicting the future with stunning accuracy...
Create a safer world defined by a few. Those authoritarian countries works like mob. Their goal is to live in luxury and power.
How can some people sleep with themselves
No idea what this is about but I’m autistic and find any acronym to be cool as
Shalev’s smile is chilling as f#@k.
And today we find out that our own FBI has purchased this software.
FBI has purchased it test it but not to use in any investigation, US has more stronger and advanced technology than Pegasus.
All this tech but they didn't know Hamas would attack?
Israeli companies care about money and less about human rights, that is a fact.. and this technology of NSO group is also helping Israeli government to collect information from the Saudis and other Arab countries, so they benefit either way.
THANK YOU LESLIE
The irony of them saying that they don't deal with customers who will use it against human rights activists. Yet, their government just declared various human rights organisations as "terrorists".....
What human rights organization did Israel classify as terrorists?
I have experienced this and I am an artist that made Resistance art in 2020 about the vaccines . I am not a terrorist , I am a South African civilian. They did it to me yesterday , thank God I am a Christian and I knew what to do. Bless. ❤
The same people that publicly condemn Khashoggi's killers, also make deals with his killers behind closed doors and applaud Pegasus while they incarcerate people like Julian Assange. Hacking it seems, is ok as long as it's the government doing it, but when a private person does it, it's a crime.
Sell it to whoever will buy.. Washington DC is sold out to the highest bidder everyday..
How many people have Pegasus saved: tens of thousands of people.
How many lives ruined: tens of millions.
not an overexaggaration at all
When they showed the screens of the employees in NSO's office, I really was expecting some crazy tools used, but seems like they're not doing anything different than any other security researcher, just disassembling binaries, analysing control flow graphs, and trying to find bugs in the code.
The fact that you're watching this should give you pause. You're able to watch this only because "they" want you to. No reputable spy agency goes on 60 minutes and talks about anything. This was compromised, and now you're seeing damage control produced with the help of 60 minutes.
He's lying & has to...
Safer?..depends on who is defining that word.
Pegasus row: SC refers to 'Orwellian concern'; says every citizen ought to be protected against privacy violation
The New Indian Express
@2:09 - The smile is sickening.
It’s painful, as a Jew, to hear Tami Shachar say: ‘I think that people that [sic] are not part of criminal or terroristic activities have nothing to worry about’, knowing how NSO Group’s Phantom software has been employed in the United States, and for what reason.
"we created a safer world" The question is ¿For who?
Use Pegasus to stop government corruption
Pmsl as if ! Hahaha
And the Israeli defense ministry is a pinnacle of pure ethics. Right.
Well, they don’t bomb cafes nor fly planes into civilian populations, so they’re far better than who they’ve been made to fight
@@arikkatzenberg582 they slit the throats of local farmers to replace them by ones brought from overseas. Go read your history.
It would be worth testing to infect a smart phone with the Pagues and then check where exactly it is making changes in the system by comparing the before and after state
From a PR standpoint, Pegasus lost the public trust with this interview. That there was no firm statement that the Saudis were stripped of their ability to use this software equals a statement that “We, NSO, will prostitute ourselves in order to make a sale.” Their so-called “ethics committee”? Israelis? Ethics? Oxymoron… And when a spokesperson says that “The innocent have nothing to worry about” you had better start worrying. One needs no further proof than the “contract” signed by their customers. Puh-leese. Score bonus points for Citizens Lab of Canada. Too bad their research has zero teeth.
P.S. NSO did not shut down the Saudis.
Thanks for this. Everything has a positive and negative side. It depends on who uses it. However, people will do anything for money and power.
They really will .
Really degrading vulgar rich people stuff
He's lying through his teeth.
I would imagine It’s also being used by both hackers hacking innocent people, and the government trying to help those being hacked
I wonder what the phone manufacturers think about this. Clearly there must be an exploit in Apple's iOS and Google Android for NSO software to work. Has anyone heard anything from them?
Just develop and deploy a patch ASAP!
Look at his face, would he lie to you?
I don't know if it is Pegasus or some other applications, but I am an average U.S. citizen without a criminal record and someone has complete control over my phone and T-MOBILE will not do anything about it. I am a "Targeted Individual", due to Organized Stalking. One time, my tablet called a relative simultaneously showing the inside of his apartment. I didn't call him nor him me, at the time did I have his phone number. He had just moved into his new apartment. Other times when I try to take pictures the camera will blur, and change screens at will. If whomever is listening doesn't like my conversations, the phone will hang up or put the person that I am talking to on hold. Recently, as I was conversations with someone, an Amazon recording came on as if I had called them. Another time I was trying to compel a neighbor's cat to come to me, at the same time a alarm went off on my phone. I have never used an alarm on my phone, of course the cat took off fast.
“Nothing is proven” as crooked an answer as possible.
Well said
They sold Pegasus to Cartel Jalisco New Generation
Example, Colombia, they laundered mafia assets.
If the NSO Group called themselves an Activist Technology organization - they would not be under any scrutiny.
Something smells very badly behind this company...it is very important to put light on them damn more than just ask them in polite way...they sell it for damn higher price then its mentioned... but why they sell it? There is big role of shadows intentions than we can t imagine. Unfortunately....so a lot of non democratic states use it....but why? What they do with such money? Why is covered by isreal official state bodies but it is working in very high sensitive area as bussinnes company. Please put more light to it....it smells damn bad.
Well if it was Pegasus it would not have infiltrated his phone with a text message, its known as a 'no-click' spyware, meaning just needing your number in order to infect your device and take full control of all its functions.
Ashamed oil thieves
Saudi Arabia: we want pegasus to fight terrorism NSO: Sign here that you are not going to use it for human rights abuses Saudi Arabia: where do I sign
The Contractual Agreement of Democracy is that NO Employee of the State can work for their own front facing side
Godspeed 60 Minutes. Keep investigating even as real journalism gets labelled unAmerican. We need more of it.
CBS, 60 Minutes and RUclips repeatedly fail to provide accurate, synchronized Captions, as required by CVAA Law and by 30 years old ADA federal Civil Rights law. They are all complicit in this long-standing, therefore criminal violation. 11/5/2021
You don't have your
CAPTION turned on.
Tap on "cc" at the top of your screen to turn it on.
Arthur you can find out if M has it.
Really quite impressed by the Pegasus Spyware and it's inventeos...
I downloaded it ..
Face book and RUclips must use Pegasus cause my ads scare me sometimes.
And then anyone close enough can pick it up at a yard sale. No wonder many countries established diplomatic relations with its maker’s.
3 layers of protection is a sugarcoat icing in cake statement in the end the smell of dollar is more appeticing than critics/ dessidents dead body.
I always wondered why Curly did after the 3 Stooges broke up.
Thanks
Thank goodness for this hard-hitting expose ...
... Mike Wallace, Ed Bradley & Morley Safer must be spinning (vomiting) in their graves.
how much money I have to pay if need to use Pegasus technology?
6:40-6:50 is the main reason.
I wish I could use pegasus on MY enemies....
what enemies 👀
Do you think the israelis use this tech on American politicians?
A western security organisation based in Israel.
No wonder from ancient times these guys were cast out of every society.
idk what it is but that guys seems on the level to me
Payphone would be good right now, I just want pizza delivered...
"✊💪💪Take chances, make mistakes. That’s how you grow. Pain nourishes your courage. You have to fail in order to practice being brave"✊💪💪✊
This is totally unrelated to the content in the video.
@@215Daniel i think he supports NSO group
Oh boy. Another Gary Vee wannabe
?🙄
HINT: 'Tell a phone's. I'm no telephone but the recipients can't be found.
What about the chinese government?
The ccp was probably the first customer in line to purchase this spyware. They have so many critics world wide.
Liars will be liars
Nso is on my list
Now they are sanctioned lol 😂
This is like blaming all sales of M16s as criminal for a couple bad apples.
I'm sure this would never be used by international criminal orgs for things like blackmail or gaining insider investing knowledge. 🙄
Rich boys having fun..with our lives.
Pandoras box has been open.
Good
The country or government doesnt have to be the bad guy when inteligence agencies do it at will. Have no doubt that this is basic tools for CIA, who are all over the world, not to mention the NSA doesnt even need Pegasus to do this.
This seems like they are trying to actually make Pegasus look good
This was a typical piece of deception by the media
Pegasus should be banned and not allowed by international law
But then again the owners of the company (the Israeli state ) don’t listen to human rights anyway
It's a tough ethical question , between the greater good and the means to achieve it . Secondly the issue of abuse of power by Pegasus buyers, at the end of the day it does help intelligence organizations but there needs to be control of the extent, methods and cases it can be safely applied in.
I don’t see any deception?
There were of equal of 2 interviews on both sides of the arguments, with nso group it was with one of the founders and the co-president and with the people against Pegasus there was an interview with the activist and citizen lab.
Sick.
Does the usa have it?
FBI bought pegasus and even offer to buy nso
@@אדירמצלאוי you sure it wasn't home land security and not the fbi.
Pegasus is a criminals company
Why didn't you ask him who in the United States has it?
I guess the best ordinary people can do at this point to boycott these guys is to not elect government officials involved in buying their product. Sadly many countries do not even have functioning representative democracies let alone anything better than that... pff
...money lust is the worst weapon of humanity...
Just wait till we create something like phasers from Star Trek the next generation .
Terrifying
Why are ppl surprised ?
THEY USING PEGASUS AGAINST ME RIGHT NOW, THEY STOLE MY IDENTITY AND MY PARENTS, THEY STOLE MY INHERITANCE TOO.