I love watching this with the knowledge that Jimmy has had a kid that is going to soon replace Flav on this pod. If I want to see a 40 year old wear a beanie and smoke a vape, I’d watch the staff at cex have their lunch break (Said Jimmy’s son)
This is what we live for. Hilarious. Jim reading the intro comments and I’m watching Flav’s face cam thinking having a nosh are we? Then FLAV: “the vicar seen me and it looked like I could be having a nosh, what time is it, 11am?” As if there’s an 11 o’clock ban on noshing… grow up.
As an American who was an American sports fan before football/soccer, let me try to offer you my perspective on Todd boehly and his strategy. Boehly owns a significant ownership stake in the Los Angeles dodgers, a baseball team who is actually much like Chelsea. The dodgers’ talent acquisition strategy is often that they are extremely successful with identifying young talent and nurturing it. Eventually, they use this young players and trade them for more established stars at the top of the game, and they are very successful with that strategy. In American sports, too, there is a bit of a cultural difference in how we see players and their relationships with their teams. Sports here are much less focused on the organization, often, and players feel much less connection and heritage with their teams because the way you get players has nothing to do with geography or anything like that. Regardless, all this is too say-in likely too many words-that boehly does not see it as soulless because his sports culture doesn’t view things the same, and boehly does not care about anything other than the players on the pitch, at the end of the day, because generally the best players win the most games - especially so in baseball, with a 162 game season. That’s all to say that boehly’s failure is in his lack of understanding of the sport and the fans rather than intentional incompetence
Who are these other 23 players?? There is lukaku- nearly sold, kepa- talks with Bournemouth, chilly, sterling- talks with villa, petrovic- strausberg talks, chalobah, the rest are academy and u21 players... Some will be loaned, sold some will play in u21 and dev squad...
just shows how mad the Chelsea situation is: - the boys are tired of talking about it - we're tired of listening to it But its irresistible content. Absolutely bamboozling
Lasagna chat. Years ago my mum made me a Lasagna after I moved into uni halls. That evening one of my flat mates asked to have some. Obviously wanting to make a good impression I begrudgingly said yes only to find my flat mate had eaten the whole top layer and nothing more. Absolute heathen
They spent 1.2 billion. Have already made back 400-500m in sales, and cut 100m a year from the wage bill. They have 42 players, let's say average sale is 20m each, 42×20, that's 800m. 500+800= 1.3billion, maybe they know what they are doing, they lowered the wage bill, lowered the average age of the club and increased the value of the squad
Yeah good point, great sale of 20 players for £20m a pop… They’ve also had to sell £75m worth of Hotels to themselves within a year and a half. The wage bill also increased by some £60m on ur accounts in the first season… but no ur right Boehly and co are clearly genii.
@pazthepole2814 you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. Did they make mistakes that 1st window, yes, but I don't hold it against them and they improved the next season, only injuriescand poor finishing from sterling stopped top 4 and now 3rd season, we will see
@@NA597 They are at a push the 8th best team itl. They didn’t make ‘mistakes’ they mortgaged themselves to horrendous deals on for the most part good to above average PL players. They still have a massive wage ball, a smaller match day income, no serious European money for b2b seasons and have allegedly sold their training ground already. I don’t understand how you could possibly say this is anything other than a disaster and a disgrace. As flav says this is genuinely the first time I feel sorry for Chelsea fans. This is it now, this is the squad they’re stuck with for 2/3 seasons at a minimum. Think we forget they’ve only owned the club 2 seasons… give them another 2 and Lord knows what sort of financial desperation they’ll resort to.
Years of antidepressants, months of therapy, every narotic known to man, and turns out the way to cure depression was to write a silly lil comment on a podcast and have it read out. Depression, consider yourself defeated
I am convinced that Todd Boehly has confused American Football with our Football. Because, yes, in American football, you absolutely need a squad of 50+ players. Someone just needs to explain to Todd the difference between American Football and proper football :D
They spent 1.2 billion. Have already made back 400-500m in sales, and cut 100m a year from the wage bill. They have 42 players, let's say average sale is 20m each, 42×20, that's 800m. 500+800= 1.3billion, maybe they know what they are doing, they lowered the wage bill, lowered the average age of the club and increased the value of the squad
@@NA5971. If you sell all 42 you will obviously have to buy more players. 2. You haven’t reduced the wage bill by 100m really, you’ve reduced it but have also created financial liabilities for 6, 7 or 8 years as opposed to 3, 4 or 5.
@alawesy my point was they haven't wasted there investment, it's there in the accounting. Obviously they won't sell all 42 at once, but they can easily make 100-150m in sales from this group every summer like they already have this summer, there ready to bank 43m from broja and humphreys if there sales go through next summer.
@alawesy we previously had upwards of 10-15 players earning over 200k a week, for example auba, koulibaly, kante, warner, havertz and Mount wanted 250k. Now we only have 5 players on 200k plus. Lukaku, Sterling, Chilwell who the club wanna sell and James and fofana who they want to build team around. Hopefully next 2 years, palmer nkunku colwill can also earn a pay rise to 200k a week contract and that's the spine of the team 200k a week is 9-10 million. The 6 players I listed saved around 60m together. Add in money saved from players on 100k like ziyech, silva, malang sarr, Loftus cheek, pulisic and you can say chelsea saved 100m in wages. If next 2 years we cut lukaku, Sterling, Chilwell, kepa, that's 50-60m a year in wages alone. No recent signing has gone higher than 180k and that's nkunku and enzo. Palmer is now on 120k, felix took a pay cut to 120k. Everyone is now on reasonable wages
As a Chelsea fan I’m sorry but I wholeheartedly disagree. First of all Tom says John Terry would’ve been sold under this regime but LEVI COWILL IS A STARTING PLAYER? So are we comparing Connor Gallagher or Trev Chalobah to John Terry? We are buying players with the intention of becoming one of the best teams in the world. Will it work? Who knows but I don’t think the attempt is terrible
Re lasagna condiment chat: Mayo is acceptable on the side of a lasagna if garlic bread is at play, offers a nice bread-dip alternative to the tomato-rich lasagna sauce
Flav hearing Hancock's Hot Take gave me dad watching his 6 year old daughter at an all day figure skating competition, knows he needs to be there physically for the optics but despises every single moment
I’m 16 and a Huddersfield Town fan and absolutely love watching match of the day, just brings a lot of nostalgia, mainly with the theme tune, even though I’ve only been watching it for about 8-9 years. But I do think it will slowly fall off in the next 10 years especially with all of the match highlights sky post on RUclips now after the games.
I just want to say I appreciate James trying to get people’s names correct. I know Flav seems dismissive of this but I think if you make a career out of talking about other people and critiquing their performances at the very least you owe them that you are least try and say their name correctly. It’s a respect thing.
Chelsea are mad for how far they’re doing this project, but as a fan I’m doing my best to be level headed by supporting them. The club are balancing PSR, meritocracy, manager philosophy and director philosophy. It’s not just one thing. Being soulless is way overblown. If you’re good enough, they’ll keep you as an academy player (Colwill and James). If you’re on the bubble they’ll consider the other aspects of club balance. New players being churned in and out hopefully leaves the club with the best of their buys. I’ll patiently support my club and not add to the negativity.
Sorry for a long comment but i feel there are a lot of things clearlake are trying to do but they not all bad. The clearlake game plan for chelsea is: - Reduce the average age of squad with high potential players. - reduce the wage bill and make it adaptive to revenue. E.g. lower base salary but incentive driven bonus. Lower yearly overheads. - protect asset value by signing long term contracts. - Preload their spending in the first couple of seasons. As they are gambling that player vaule and wages will continue to grow at same rate. E.g. even if players only improve a bit their wage will remaim similar. (Any purchases in the next couple of widows would be for players u18 like estevao and paez) - due to the realative base salary if a player isnt playing even with a long contract they shouldnt be too difficult to get off the books. - increase revenue and the commercial side of the businesses. And rebuilding standford bridge. - Invrease the value of the club. Cons of this approach - commercial side is linked to success on the pitch and they havent been as good as they thought they would at getting sponsorship deals. E.g. shirt sponsor. - In the short run academy players have to be sold to fund the squad rebuild. Rips soul out of club. - due to amount spent the squad rebuild would still cost money year on year for the next 5 to 7 years. - due to amout of players similar age in all positions players are blocking each others development paths. Including paths of academy players so they is less chance of a connor Gallagher or mount being able to be sold to cover this. - due to the length of contract if players are injured or just crap will be difficult to more if they cant get the salary from somewhere else. Or get at lease enough money to cover the amortisated fee. - short term upheaval has caused issues on the pitch. - Bonuses causes selfishness e.g. players fighting over penaltys. Pros of approach - get a low average salary that adjust based on success. - player asset value secured. - once the initial investment is made should be cheaper to run as focus mores to the academy and youth signing. Converbelt of talent. - happy to sell players if their value raises and can make a profit. - gives the players more security in their job and pay. - incentives improvment of players based on bonus. Basically what they are going to try and do is make chelsea more sustainable in the long run. So they can start to take profits out of the club and increase the value to potential buyong in 10-15 years.
21 years old, watch motd with my dad every week since I was about 14, it’s a great recap as he is busy on Saturday afternoons and a way to spend time together
On Match of the Day, as a 20 year old, I look forward to it every week. I'll watch every match (apart from the Man United game if we've played shit and I've had to watch 90 mins of it already, don't need to relive it). My 16 year old brother watches it too. Since we would wake up on a Sunday morning as kids and watch the second showing, we still love it. People aged around 14 and younger probably don't watch it, since they've grown up in an era where match highlights are all on youtube an hour after the game.
don't know if this will make the podcast but i made a bet with a mate of mine who's a chelsea fan. he messaged me on monday saying "we are so back", referencing the signing of joao felix, and chelseas performance against city. what was the bet? the bet was that if chelsea finish above arsenal, he receives £500. if arsenal finish above chelsea, he has to send me £500. easiest. money. ever. i mean this guy doesnt even watch football really, he just likes chelsea. hes a basketball fan!
Any real Chelsea fan knows we aren't going to finish above Arsenal, that would mean winning the league or finishing second at worse. At the same time, Chelsea are not going to finish mid table either.
@@InvaderZim742 of course they dont. my mate barely even watched football last season. just the definiton of a casual. i hope he holds through and i get to cash in my money but i honestly feel bad. whats the most amount of money youd bet on chelsea finishing above arsenal?
Chelsea fan here - it is a massive gamble on sell-on value of the players. Which only works if the loan system can develop these younger talents into assets. Without any way to develop and market all this talent, we are cooked. Thanks for the awesome content.
Yeah the owners seem to think that the value of the player will rise no matter what, forgetting that they need to play (and need to play well) for that to happen. Look at mudryk etc who's value is probably half what we paid
@@chrismcqueen5134 They have multiple sects of players, the prospects for the 1st team that will come in next year, the players for the academy then the players for loans and reselling. If there were a full network for the multi club model there wouldn't be this mess to actual organise the business model. The points people are making on the youth players of the past just doesn't make any sense; half those players weren't of the level to keep the team where we'd want to be and there were a group of players I wouldn't have sold but they funded Lukaku's transfer under Roman, but even then they would not have had a look. To the outside to other clubs it seems like a gamble, but when you've got a club with an ability to sell players for good amounts then as long as they can spread the cost with amortisation they don't see it as a risk, the same way every club has a fluctuating transfer budget. There's the first team players, then the ones they'll sell with the amount needed to break even decreasing by the years left on the contract.
I think a good way to announce a signing would be the three words i use when i see a KitKat chunky Lotus Biscoff on the shelf of my local Tesco Express - "Oooo, yummy yummy"
I started the lasagna debate on flavs side and as soon as the spaghetti nothing's changed argument was put forward I completely changed my mind. Elite debating skills.
24yo here. Match of the day is elite. Not going online on a Saturday, hiding away from all results - watch out for the sports section on the 10 o clock news (look away now!), all for the thrill of seeing a 'Nottingham Forest v Arsenal' up first and having absolutely no clue which way it could go. woweeeeee don't even get me started boys
I get it but you cant complain about chelsea having too many players then complain about them forcing people out. Conor was offered a contract and if he didn't accept it the best business decision is to sell. Dont agree with then signing Joao but you can't have it both ways. The 'squad is too big and people need to be sold but it cant be X person' argument doesn't make sense. Same with Chalobah, hes not good enough and needs to go as a result (because the squad is too big to accommodate someone just for the sake of them being "propa chels"). Chelsea fans have always fettishised players just because they are from the club no matter their quality (Charly Musonda was the next messi, Lewis Baker/Josh McEchran/dujon sterling etc)
I was ENRAGED as I heard Jack's blasphemous take on Happy Gilmore, vowing never to view this clueless berk's podcast. Then as Jim tried to make him reconsider his rating and give it a second viewing, Jack defiantly blurted out "I am NOT watching it again" and I thought "Aha, I like this guy" and gave his podcast a whirl. My rating: 3/5, "It's just ok".
As a American just getting into the epl, I don’t get why pushing out a squad player who doesn’t fit the style is some kinda travesty. In us sports, one of the most common cliches is “it’s a business”. Baseball, who’s structure is most similar to the epl (with minor league teams being like academy), will trade kids as young as 16 or never call up/ pay players who’ve been in the minor league teams for 10 years. I don’t know anything about Gallagher but “people who know what the clubs about” doesn’t win games like talent does. And you’ve gotta do everything to win no feelings involved.
Let’s not forget that we’re talking about transfer fees alone, other income and expenditure isn’t relevant when we’re talking about Chelsea’s spending. If Chelsea spend £1bn on players, on 10 year contracts, player amortisation makes that £100m per year for 10 years meaning £300m needing to be raised in a 3 year FFP/PSR assessment period. In that period, a club can make a £105m loss with no action taken, plus a further £15m loss, with little consequence, over £15m would result in the loss having to be covered by an equity investment, rather than an owners loan (I’m sure he’s got mates who will lend him £20m if needs be). Let’s say that Chelsea are operating at allowing a loss of hitting the £120m ‘allowed’ loss, meaning they need to raise £180m in a three year period. According to Transfermarkt, they’ve made £380m in player sales in the last 2 years alone which pays for the next 6 years (2 assessment periods)🤯 Of course, the more they spend, the more they will have to make and once other clubs realise what they’re doing, they’ll either stop buying Chelsea players and Chelsea will likely go into administration or everyone will copy Chelsea, which is most probably what will happen. Insert Jim’s video title - How Todd Boehly RUINED Football - Of course, the figures I’ve used for their spending and contracts are round and not completely accurate but you get the gist. .
As a Chelsea fan, no feeling rivalled that of seeing a team consisting of a lot of youth products compete in the prem and then ultimately win the champions league. We were living what every fan ultimately wants and dreams of. Last year I barely watched the Premier league as it just felt incredibly soulless watching millionaires on 20year contracts limp to a top half finish.
Great pod boys - I often watch the JLA channel but rarely get to the end of 1-1s that go beyond an hour.. (maybe once or twice in the past).. What can I say? There we land
Absolutely get the football indigestion concept Jim. No club has gone longer without promotion in the EFL than my club Colchester. Weve had 4 years of relegation battles. Top tier football indigestion.
Have to be honest and disappoint you slugs the wedding topped the return of JAFFN but having my comment read out for the first time on JAFFN is a great start to the honeymoon!
Watching James faffing over an illustration depicting his preferable portion size of lasagne made me think this is exactly the sort of quality stuff he could bring to the BBC as host of MOTD
Everyone saying this but had to comment. The lasagne bit is genuinely top 10 JAFFN bits for me, been watching since ball street. Unreal lads 😂 Football podcast.
I like how Gallagher got “pushed” out. Where did he get pushed out to? Chelsea got an offer from Atleti and they accept. Where’s the pushing out? He’s going to a club playing in UCL with a great squad and coach. If that’s pushing out I’d love to get pushed out of my job. And don’t say “oh he was training away” that’s because of the deal in limbo between Chelsea and Atleti but they for sure were gonna get the deal done. A better “pushed” out example is Chalobah. Someone that’s better than most of our defenders but since he’s pure profit he has to bite the bullet.
Chelsea hoping that these youngsters will come good in 3-5 years is laughable. One of the biggest ways to learn and grow as a team is having the presence of Veterans. Thiago Silva is now no more, and with Sterling leaving they are relying on the experience of a few players in their mid-twenties. This could all go one of two ways; either very bad, or somewhat decent. Nothing more.
Jim mate the Pod being back is great! Been at half mast for the past week! I tell you what Flav might be the best guest you've had on the pod - hope we get to see more of him this season👍🏻
Question of the week: If you had one week to complete a 10 thousand piece jigsaw puzzle with the picture being nothing but a pool of baked beans, and if you complete it you get £10 million, if you don't you go to prison for a year. Would you take on the challenge?
The only reasonable explanation I could come up with for Chelsea's plan, in terms of transfers/long contracts, is this: I believe they're giving out long 7 year contracts for 2 reasons. 1st Reason: Pay out those transfers over the 7 year deal, therefore having to pay less in installments per year. 2nd Reason: If they need to sell a player that isn't doing well, their value won't decrease because they have such long contracts. For example, Mudryk is shit. But if he was on the last year of his contract, they'd only be able to get like 15m for him. But if they sell him now, he still has 5 years left on his deal. So they could ask for more.
For me as a dutch teen I love Match of the day. Been watching it sinds I was 15 so I could also see the smaller clubs play bc dutch broadcasters only show the big teams play
Filling your squad with young players to develop is fine as long as not everybody is a young player under development. Because who are you learning from then? The other clueless youngster next to you? Chelsea has dissolved its team structure and it's every man for himself now, in pure American fashion.
At 56 mins when flav stares out the window rubbing his knuckles and wondering whether punching a vicar will calm his anger from the thought of anyone doubting jaws really shows jaffn is more than just a listening experience
Guys, it was reported that as part of the takeover Clearlake agreed to spend 1.75 billion on the men's and women's playing staff and Stamford Bridge. The Bridge has no room for growth, and the womens team is boss, and players are less expensive. Clearlake is spending all of this committed money early because the cost of players will only go up. My guess is that spending the 1.75 is necessary for their ownership to vest and needs to happen before they pull dividends. They will spend freely till they reach the 1.75 threshold.
Fell like jaffan fans might appreciate this, my mate a ‘former’ Chelsea fan sent me this text (and I’m assuming every other football mate he has) “ *OFFICIAL STATEMENT*: After some consideration it saddens me to announce I’m officially abstaining my support of Chelsea football club until a new ownership is put in place as I do not morally align with the ethos of the club and therefor can no longer pledge my allegiance under the current ownership. I will be participating in this upcoming season as a neutral. I hope you can respect my decision in this difficult time. “ How the mighty have fallen, i othered him a 12 month loan with an option of making it permanent at my club, Brighton
Haven't seen it discussed anywhere but isn't the big point about the Felix deal that they didn't actually want him? He was clearly chucked in as a solution to the Omorodion deal collapsing which nearly led to the Gallagher deal going the same way. They HAD to find a solution and thought "ok we'll take him". They seem to just be running the whole club on a spreadsheet.
Manchester United has a team filled with youth players and as a mufc fan i think it gives us fans more connection to the club seeing Mainoo and Garanacho playing in the first team. I do agree with James on feeling sorry for actual chelsea fans as clearlake has sold so many players with whom they had felt a connection with and replaceed them with players who are either not needed or too young to play for them.
Mad thing with Chelsea is idk how it ends. They seem to keep getting round the long contracts issue by selling an academy product like Gallagher or Mount for pure profit, certainly PSR hasn’t stopped them chucking money at players this summer. The fans aren’t gonna realistically push the owners out and the ownership and technical directors are clearly determined that we’re all the naive ones and their strategy is genius. They aren’t giving up even though they aren’t winning so how does this end!?!?
Flav in a nutshell is calling out Vardy for being 38 and doing immature celebrations then 20 minutes later laughing a drawing of spaghetti his mates just done
Nah, anything less than a 4.5/5 for Jaws is nonsense. I'm 24 and watched it for the first time last year, thought it was one of the best films I've ever seen.
Wildcarding this week. 2 transfers banked. Planning on no haaland. Until gw 7. He’s had to score two hat tricks to keep up with Salah, Raya, Valdermassen Trent, robbo, 2 4.5mil, mosquera Palmer, Salah, Eze, mitoma, Semenyo Watkins, Pedro, Solanke Double up on the Arsenal defence gw 6
222 points overal 1.3 million Wildcarding to remove son out the team and to spread the funds onto the bench which is currently sangare, Quansah and Barco
We do have academy products in the first team - James and Colwill are in the team, and the structure seems to be “the cream always rises to the top” - the best youngsters will make it. I do agree we have done academy players dirty though such as exciting Chalobah. That behavior is soulless, but I think the kids will see there is a pathway if they can be elite, essentially. We’ll see if it works.
The ten minutes on sizes of lasagne was excelllent. Football podcast.
My favourite part. Love a late nite lasagne noshing
If a lasagne isn't quadrilateral, is it still a lasagne?
I love watching this with the knowledge that Jimmy has had a kid that is going to soon replace Flav on this pod. If I want to see a 40 year old wear a beanie and smoke a vape, I’d watch the staff at cex have their lunch break (Said Jimmy’s son)
give it jimson til the end of the season
project flav underway
😂😂😂😂
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shock seeing you here
The return of JaFFN ruined my edge streak. Seeing flav pulling on that vape sent me over the edge 😮💨
Delete this. Now
there we edge
@jrhoden-v3z yes man that's what we needed
Ironic from a man with the surname Rimmer
He pulled out the vape, I pulled out something else
terrified by the prospect of james getting the MOTD gig and yer da’s digging up countless clips of him saying “BUM THE KIDS”
This is what we live for. Hilarious.
Jim reading the intro comments and I’m watching Flav’s face cam thinking having a nosh are we?
Then FLAV: “the vicar seen me and it looked like I could be having a nosh, what time is it, 11am?”
As if there’s an 11 o’clock ban on noshing… grow up.
As an American who was an American sports fan before football/soccer, let me try to offer you my perspective on Todd boehly and his strategy. Boehly owns a significant ownership stake in the Los Angeles dodgers, a baseball team who is actually much like Chelsea. The dodgers’ talent acquisition strategy is often that they are extremely successful with identifying young talent and nurturing it. Eventually, they use this young players and trade them for more established stars at the top of the game, and they are very successful with that strategy. In American sports, too, there is a bit of a cultural difference in how we see players and their relationships with their teams. Sports here are much less focused on the organization, often, and players feel much less connection and heritage with their teams because the way you get players has nothing to do with geography or anything like that. Regardless, all this is too say-in likely too many words-that boehly does not see it as soulless because his sports culture doesn’t view things the same, and boehly does not care about anything other than the players on the pitch, at the end of the day, because generally the best players win the most games - especially so in baseball, with a 162 game season. That’s all to say that boehly’s failure is in his lack of understanding of the sport and the fans rather than intentional incompetence
As an Australian who was an Australian sports fan before football/soccer, good point.
at 1:48 you can see Flav notice the Vicar staring at him and slowly stop nodding out of embarrassment ahahahah
The lasagna bit, is why we all watch JAFFN
Just magic, jesus I've missed this podcast!
Chelsea are only around 5 more signings away from being able to challenge for the top half this season.
Bet they finish in the top 4.
They literally came 6th last season
Keep laughin... we will see
Who are these other 23 players?? There is lukaku- nearly sold, kepa- talks with Bournemouth, chilly, sterling- talks with villa, petrovic- strausberg talks, chalobah, the rest are academy and u21 players... Some will be loaned, sold some will play in u21 and dev squad...
Spot on mate doesn’t suit agendas tho does it
😂😂😂
Falls on deaf ears mate. Ktbffh
Sorry did you just come straight to the comments before listening? That's literally the issue they've discussed
Here after we flogged wolves 6-2 😊😊
just shows how mad the Chelsea situation is:
- the boys are tired of talking about it
- we're tired of listening to it
But its irresistible content. Absolutely bamboozling
The Chelsea team bus has joined the Great Wall of China as the only man-made objects visible from space.
44.15 the moment Flav innevitably zones out of the pod
Flav zones out of his own thoughts
Lasagna chat. Years ago my mum made me a Lasagna after I moved into uni halls. That evening one of my flat mates asked to have some. Obviously wanting to make a good impression I begrudgingly said yes only to find my flat mate had eaten the whole top layer and nothing more. Absolute heathen
They spent 1.2 billion. Have already made back 400-500m in sales, and cut 100m a year from the wage bill. They have 42 players, let's say average sale is 20m each, 42×20, that's 800m.
500+800= 1.3billion, maybe they know what they are doing, they lowered the wage bill, lowered the average age of the club and increased the value of the squad
Yeah good point, great sale of 20 players for £20m a pop… They’ve also had to sell £75m worth of Hotels to themselves within a year and a half. The wage bill also increased by some £60m on ur accounts in the first season… but no ur right Boehly and co are clearly genii.
@pazthepole2814 you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. Did they make mistakes that 1st window, yes, but I don't hold it against them and they improved the next season, only injuriescand poor finishing from sterling stopped top 4 and now 3rd season, we will see
@@NA597 They are at a push the 8th best team itl. They didn’t make ‘mistakes’ they mortgaged themselves to horrendous deals on for the most part good to above average PL players. They still have a massive wage ball, a smaller match day income, no serious European money for b2b seasons and have allegedly sold their training ground already. I don’t understand how you could possibly say this is anything other than a disaster and a disgrace. As flav says this is genuinely the first time I feel sorry for Chelsea fans. This is it now, this is the squad they’re stuck with for 2/3 seasons at a minimum. Think we forget they’ve only owned the club 2 seasons… give them another 2 and Lord knows what sort of financial desperation they’ll resort to.
My mum said I had to choose between Jaffn and her. I’m now an orphan
You can do better 😅
25:42 don't Chelsea have academy product Colwill as a regular starter at CB..? That's the one position where this is a bad example 😅
Yes, he's the most overrated British PL player now that no one rates Chilwell
Chelsea fans complaining the club is becoming soulless. The irony.
London clubs.
It’s eerie seeing a soulless club lose more of its soul 😂
@Calum-g9t nah not even Argentina has Enzo as a leader Chelsea are in the mud!
what a great film take from Jack Hancock wowzers !
Years of antidepressants, months of therapy, every narotic known to man, and turns out the way to cure depression was to write a silly lil comment on a podcast and have it read out. Depression, consider yourself defeated
I want a JAFFN special where Jim talks about his favourite meals and how much of his plate he wants to be filled when consuming them.
I am convinced that Todd Boehly has confused American Football with our Football. Because, yes, in American football, you absolutely need a squad of 50+ players. Someone just needs to explain to Todd the difference between American Football and proper football :D
They spent 1.2 billion. Have already made back 400-500m in sales, and cut 100m a year from the wage bill. They have 42 players, let's say average sale is 20m each, 42×20, that's 800m.
500+800= 1.3billion, maybe they know what they are doing, they lowered the wage bill, lowered the average age of the club and increased the value of the squad
@@NA597Yes, they made the club so much better
@@NA5971. If you sell all 42 you will obviously have to buy more players. 2. You haven’t reduced the wage bill by 100m really, you’ve reduced it but have also created financial liabilities for 6, 7 or 8 years as opposed to 3, 4 or 5.
@alawesy my point was they haven't wasted there investment, it's there in the accounting. Obviously they won't sell all 42 at once, but they can easily make 100-150m in sales from this group every summer like they already have this summer, there ready to bank 43m from broja and humphreys if there sales go through next summer.
@alawesy we previously had upwards of 10-15 players earning over 200k a week, for example auba, koulibaly, kante, warner, havertz and Mount wanted 250k. Now we only have 5 players on 200k plus. Lukaku, Sterling, Chilwell who the club wanna sell and James and fofana who they want to build team around. Hopefully next 2 years, palmer nkunku colwill can also earn a pay rise to 200k a week contract and that's the spine of the team
200k a week is 9-10 million. The 6 players I listed saved around 60m together. Add in money saved from players on 100k like ziyech, silva, malang sarr, Loftus cheek, pulisic and you can say chelsea saved 100m in wages. If next 2 years we cut lukaku, Sterling, Chilwell, kepa, that's 50-60m a year in wages alone. No recent signing has gone higher than 180k and that's nkunku and enzo. Palmer is now on 120k, felix took a pay cut to 120k. Everyone is now on reasonable wages
This podcast come out on Spotify? Love to listen to it at work
A gigantic wedge of lasagna with salad and garlic bread is honestly a top 10 life experience.
have you considered a bigger portion of lasagne instead of the salad?
@@Jantonov13 No no... the piece is bigger, WITH salad
Homemade potato wedges adds a lovely touch
JAFFN genuinely makes my Friday - im flaccid all wknd without it
As a Chelsea fan I’m sorry but I wholeheartedly disagree. First of all Tom says John Terry would’ve been sold under this regime but LEVI COWILL IS A STARTING PLAYER? So are we comparing Connor Gallagher or Trev Chalobah to John Terry? We are buying players with the intention of becoming one of the best teams in the world. Will it work? Who knows but I don’t think the attempt is terrible
I've also thought that the key to MOTD commentator choice hinges on the existence of free will, glad there's a podcast finally bringing that to light.
Re lasagna condiment chat: Mayo is acceptable on the side of a lasagna if garlic bread is at play, offers a nice bread-dip alternative to the tomato-rich lasagna sauce
Inside you there are two wolves who are both American investment firms. One is FSG, the other Is Clearlake Capital.
Flav hearing Hancock's Hot Take gave me dad watching his 6 year old daughter at an all day figure skating competition, knows he needs to be there physically for the optics but despises every single moment
Here for Hancock’s Hot Takes. Seems like a good guy who has measured thoughts and articulates well
I’m 16 and a Huddersfield Town fan and absolutely love watching match of the day, just brings a lot of nostalgia, mainly with the theme tune, even though I’ve only been watching it for about 8-9 years. But I do think it will slowly fall off in the next 10 years especially with all of the match highlights sky post on RUclips now after the games.
They need to nail the Lineker replacement when it does come
I just want to say I appreciate James trying to get people’s names correct.
I know Flav seems dismissive of this but I think if you make a career out of talking about other people and critiquing their performances at the very least you owe them that you are least try and say their name correctly. It’s a respect thing.
Chelsea are mad for how far they’re doing this project, but as a fan I’m doing my best to be level headed by supporting them.
The club are balancing PSR, meritocracy, manager philosophy and director philosophy. It’s not just one thing. Being soulless is way overblown. If you’re good enough, they’ll keep you as an academy player (Colwill and James). If you’re on the bubble they’ll consider the other aspects of club balance. New players being churned in and out hopefully leaves the club with the best of their buys. I’ll patiently support my club and not add to the negativity.
James spitting truth on his lasagne complaint. Whenever I'm served lasagne, I'm low-key angry about my portion the whole meal
Sorry for a long comment but i feel there are a lot of things clearlake are trying to do but they not all bad.
The clearlake game plan for chelsea is:
- Reduce the average age of squad with high potential players.
- reduce the wage bill and make it adaptive to revenue. E.g. lower base salary but incentive driven bonus. Lower yearly overheads.
- protect asset value by signing long term contracts.
- Preload their spending in the first couple of seasons. As they are gambling that player vaule and wages will continue to grow at same rate. E.g. even if players only improve a bit their wage will remaim similar. (Any purchases in the next couple of widows would be for players u18 like estevao and paez)
- due to the realative base salary if a player isnt playing even with a long contract they shouldnt be too difficult to get off the books.
- increase revenue and the commercial side of the businesses. And rebuilding standford bridge.
- Invrease the value of the club.
Cons of this approach
- commercial side is linked to success on the pitch and they havent been as good as they thought they would at getting sponsorship deals. E.g. shirt sponsor.
- In the short run academy players have to be sold to fund the squad rebuild. Rips soul out of club.
- due to amount spent the squad rebuild would still cost money year on year for the next 5 to 7 years.
- due to amout of players similar age in all positions players are blocking each others development paths. Including paths of academy players so they is less chance of a connor Gallagher or mount being able to be sold to cover this.
- due to the length of contract if players are injured or just crap will be difficult to more if they cant get the salary from somewhere else. Or get at lease enough money to cover the amortisated fee.
- short term upheaval has caused issues on the pitch.
- Bonuses causes selfishness e.g. players fighting over penaltys.
Pros of approach
- get a low average salary that adjust based on success.
- player asset value secured.
- once the initial investment is made should be cheaper to run as focus mores to the academy and youth signing. Converbelt of talent.
- happy to sell players if their value raises and can make a profit.
- gives the players more security in their job and pay.
- incentives improvment of players based on bonus.
Basically what they are going to try and do is make chelsea more sustainable in the long run. So they can start to take profits out of the club and increase the value to potential buyong in 10-15 years.
Well thought out and useful to get an idea of the thinking at least, interesting to see the split of base wages to incentives
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I am so happy for the bit of "What is better than Carlton Palmer?" to be Adel winning everytime
21 years old, watch motd with my dad every week since I was about 14, it’s a great recap as he is busy on Saturday afternoons and a way to spend time together
If I was a Chelsea player, I'd go full Winston Bogarde and make them keep me on the books for the full length of my contract.
On Match of the Day, as a 20 year old, I look forward to it every week. I'll watch every match (apart from the Man United game if we've played shit and I've had to watch 90 mins of it already, don't need to relive it). My 16 year old brother watches it too. Since we would wake up on a Sunday morning as kids and watch the second showing, we still love it. People aged around 14 and younger probably don't watch it, since they've grown up in an era where match highlights are all on youtube an hour after the game.
I feel the exact same way, me and my broths had the same experience
Surely the 3 word saying for this pod should be “off to fleet”
don't know if this will make the podcast but i made a bet with a mate of mine who's a chelsea fan. he messaged me on monday saying "we are so back", referencing the signing of joao felix, and chelseas performance against city. what was the bet? the bet was that if chelsea finish above arsenal, he receives £500. if arsenal finish above chelsea, he has to send me £500. easiest. money. ever. i mean this guy doesnt even watch football really, he just likes chelsea. hes a basketball fan!
Any real Chelsea fan knows we aren't going to finish above Arsenal, that would mean winning the league or finishing second at worse. At the same time, Chelsea are not going to finish mid table either.
@@InvaderZim742 of course they dont. my mate barely even watched football last season. just the definiton of a casual. i hope he holds through and i get to cash in my money but i honestly feel bad. whats the most amount of money youd bet on chelsea finishing above arsenal?
@@henrydodson655 about 5p
enjoy the £500
Chelsea fan here - it is a massive gamble on sell-on value of the players. Which only works if the loan system can develop these younger talents into assets. Without any way to develop and market all this talent, we are cooked. Thanks for the awesome content.
Yeah the owners seem to think that the value of the player will rise no matter what, forgetting that they need to play (and need to play well) for that to happen. Look at mudryk etc who's value is probably half what we paid
Interesting to see how this max 5 loaned players rule works out for your lot
@@chrismcqueen5134 They have multiple sects of players, the prospects for the 1st team that will come in next year, the players for the academy then the players for loans and reselling.
If there were a full network for the multi club model there wouldn't be this mess to actual organise the business model.
The points people are making on the youth players of the past just doesn't make any sense; half those players weren't of the level to keep the team where we'd want to be and there were a group of players I wouldn't have sold but they funded Lukaku's transfer under Roman, but even then they would not have had a look.
To the outside to other clubs it seems like a gamble, but when you've got a club with an ability to sell players for good amounts then as long as they can spread the cost with amortisation they don't see it as a risk, the same way every club has a fluctuating transfer budget.
There's the first team players, then the ones they'll sell with the amount needed to break even decreasing by the years left on the contract.
19 year old here, can't wait for MOTD every saturday, I never watch MOTD2 but I always load up IPlayer every saturday to hear that iconic tune
James has reached his 80's Robert Fripp stage now
I think a good way to announce a signing would be the three words i use when i see a KitKat chunky Lotus Biscoff on the shelf of my local Tesco Express - "Oooo, yummy yummy"
I started the lasagna debate on flavs side and as soon as the spaghetti nothing's changed argument was put forward I completely changed my mind. Elite debating skills.
24yo here. Match of the day is elite. Not going online on a Saturday, hiding away from all results - watch out for the sports section on the 10 o clock news (look away now!), all for the thrill of seeing a 'Nottingham Forest v Arsenal' up first and having absolutely no clue which way it could go. woweeeeee don't even get me started boys
I get it but you cant complain about chelsea having too many players then complain about them forcing people out. Conor was offered a contract and if he didn't accept it the best business decision is to sell. Dont agree with then signing Joao but you can't have it both ways. The 'squad is too big and people need to be sold but it cant be X person' argument doesn't make sense. Same with Chalobah, hes not good enough and needs to go as a result (because the squad is too big to accommodate someone just for the sake of them being "propa chels"). Chelsea fans have always fettishised players just because they are from the club no matter their quality (Charly Musonda was the next messi, Lewis Baker/Josh McEchran/dujon sterling etc)
going from talking about Chelsea to then "Kane self bum" to then "do we really have free will?" is why we all watch JAFFN
Good to see Flav back as guest this week
I really like this week’s guest. Should have them on more often
The resurrection of JAFN made me go take a shit in the woods. True story.
I feel like we need a "transfer confirmed" version i.e. Up The Wife and a "transfer has fallen through" i.e. Bummed The Kids
MOTD is class but Ian Wright to Joe Hart is like when Man Utd sold Ronaldo and brought in Obertan
I was ENRAGED as I heard Jack's blasphemous take on Happy Gilmore, vowing never to view this clueless berk's podcast. Then as Jim tried to make him reconsider his rating and give it a second viewing, Jack defiantly blurted out "I am NOT watching it again" and I thought "Aha, I like this guy" and gave his podcast a whirl. My rating: 3/5, "It's just ok".
As a American just getting into the epl, I don’t get why pushing out a squad player who doesn’t fit the style is some kinda travesty. In us sports, one of the most common cliches is “it’s a business”. Baseball, who’s structure is most similar to the epl (with minor league teams being like academy), will trade kids as young as 16 or never call up/ pay players who’ve been in the minor league teams for 10 years. I don’t know anything about Gallagher but “people who know what the clubs about” doesn’t win games like talent does. And you’ve gotta do everything to win no feelings involved.
Checking in…cause it feels so good to have the boys back
Let’s not forget that we’re talking about transfer fees alone, other income and expenditure isn’t relevant when we’re talking about Chelsea’s spending. If Chelsea spend £1bn on players, on 10 year contracts, player amortisation makes that £100m per year for 10 years meaning £300m needing to be raised in a 3 year FFP/PSR assessment period. In that period, a club can make a £105m loss with no action taken, plus a further £15m loss, with little consequence, over £15m would result in the loss having to be covered by an equity investment, rather than an owners loan (I’m sure he’s got mates who will lend him £20m if needs be). Let’s say that Chelsea are operating at allowing a loss of hitting the £120m ‘allowed’ loss, meaning they need to raise £180m in a three year period. According to Transfermarkt, they’ve made £380m in player sales in the last 2 years alone which pays for the next 6 years (2 assessment periods)🤯 Of course, the more they spend, the more they will have to make and once other clubs realise what they’re doing, they’ll either stop buying Chelsea players and Chelsea will likely go into administration or everyone will copy Chelsea, which is most probably what will happen. Insert Jim’s video title - How Todd Boehly RUINED Football - Of course, the figures I’ve used for their spending and contracts are round and not completely accurate but you get the gist.
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As a Chelsea fan, no feeling rivalled that of seeing a team consisting of a lot of youth products compete in the prem and then ultimately win the champions league. We were living what every fan ultimately wants and dreams of. Last year I barely watched the Premier league as it just felt incredibly soulless watching millionaires on 20year contracts limp to a top half finish.
The other consideration with lasagne is the depth of the lasagne itself, if it’s deeper it can be a slightly smaller slice
Great pod boys - I often watch the JLA channel but rarely get to the end of 1-1s that go beyond an hour.. (maybe once or twice in the past).. What can I say? There we land
Mikel Merino to Arsenal! Live. Laugh. Love. The Spanish midfielder signs a 3 year deal with a 1-year option.
I’m ashamed for you
Get James on MOTD, they need a new long term replacement for Lineker after today's events
Loved this week’s guest, seems a top bloke
Absolutely get the football indigestion concept Jim. No club has gone longer without promotion in the EFL than my club Colchester. Weve had 4 years of relegation battles. Top tier football indigestion.
Have to be honest and disappoint you slugs the wedding topped the return of JAFFN but having my comment read out for the first time on JAFFN is a great start to the honeymoon!
Watching James faffing over an illustration depicting his preferable portion size of lasagne made me think this is exactly the sort of quality stuff he could bring to the BBC as host of MOTD
Everyone saying this but had to comment. The lasagne bit is genuinely top 10 JAFFN bits for me, been watching since ball street. Unreal lads 😂 Football podcast.
How often is this podcast?
I like how Gallagher got “pushed” out. Where did he get pushed out to? Chelsea got an offer from Atleti and they accept. Where’s the pushing out? He’s going to a club playing in UCL with a great squad and coach. If that’s pushing out I’d love to get pushed out of my job. And don’t say “oh he was training away” that’s because of the deal in limbo between Chelsea and Atleti but they for sure were gonna get the deal done. A better “pushed” out example is Chalobah. Someone that’s better than most of our defenders but since he’s pure profit he has to bite the bullet.
Chelsea hoping that these youngsters will come good in 3-5 years is laughable. One of the biggest ways to learn and grow as a team is having the presence of Veterans. Thiago Silva is now no more, and with Sterling leaving they are relying on the experience of a few players in their mid-twenties. This could all go one of two ways; either very bad, or somewhat decent. Nothing more.
Sterling is not a veteran lol. He may be 29 but he acts like a kid. He is not valuable experience, just an overpaid primadonna.
Jim mate the Pod being back is great! Been at half mast for the past week! I tell you what Flav might be the best guest you've had on the pod - hope we get to see more of him this season👍🏻
Question of the week: If you had one week to complete a 10 thousand piece jigsaw puzzle with the picture being nothing but a pool of baked beans, and if you complete it you get £10 million, if you don't you go to prison for a year. Would you take on the challenge?
Loving the new bit. The question is how bad are the food choices going to have to be, to give Carlton Palmer a chance of winning?
I’m begging for a full Brighton video because holy there cooking
The only reasonable explanation I could come up with for Chelsea's plan, in terms of transfers/long contracts, is this: I believe they're giving out long 7 year contracts for 2 reasons. 1st Reason: Pay out those transfers over the 7 year deal, therefore having to pay less in installments per year. 2nd Reason: If they need to sell a player that isn't doing well, their value won't decrease because they have such long contracts. For example, Mudryk is shit. But if he was on the last year of his contract, they'd only be able to get like 15m for him. But if they sell him now, he still has 5 years left on his deal. So they could ask for more.
For me as a dutch teen I love Match of the day. Been watching it sinds I was 15 so I could also see the smaller clubs play bc dutch broadcasters only show the big teams play
Filling your squad with young players to develop is fine as long as not everybody is a young player under development. Because who are you learning from then? The other clueless youngster next to you?
Chelsea has dissolved its team structure and it's every man for himself now, in pure American fashion.
At 56 mins when flav stares out the window rubbing his knuckles and wondering whether punching a vicar will calm his anger from the thought of anyone doubting jaws really shows jaffn is more than just a listening experience
As a mad Chelsea fan, Flav talks complete truths about Chelsea beginning to lose its soul.
Youve just said your transfer announcement:
BRING ON THE LASAGNA !
Guys, it was reported that as part of the takeover Clearlake agreed to spend 1.75 billion on the men's and women's playing staff and Stamford Bridge.
The Bridge has no room for growth, and the womens team is boss, and players are less expensive.
Clearlake is spending all of this committed money early because the cost of players will only go up.
My guess is that spending the 1.75 is necessary for their ownership to vest and needs to happen before they pull dividends. They will spend freely till they reach the 1.75 threshold.
First time until the end, have to admit i agree with flav about happy gilmour and james about pasta portions. You seem like a wise set of gentlemen.
Fell like jaffan fans might appreciate this, my mate a ‘former’ Chelsea fan sent me this text (and I’m assuming every other football mate he has)
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*OFFICIAL STATEMENT*: After some consideration it saddens me to announce I’m officially abstaining my support of Chelsea football club until a new ownership is put in place as I do not morally align with the ethos of the club and therefor can no longer pledge my allegiance under the current ownership. I will be participating in this upcoming season as a neutral. I hope you can respect my decision in this difficult time.
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How the mighty have fallen, i othered him a 12 month loan with an option of making it permanent at my club, Brighton
Haven't seen it discussed anywhere but isn't the big point about the Felix deal that they didn't actually want him? He was clearly chucked in as a solution to the Omorodion deal collapsing which nearly led to the Gallagher deal going the same way. They HAD to find a solution and thought "ok we'll take him". They seem to just be running the whole club on a spreadsheet.
Manchester United has a team filled with youth players and as a mufc fan i think it gives us fans more connection to the club seeing Mainoo and Garanacho playing in the first team. I do agree with James on feeling sorry for actual chelsea fans as clearlake has sold so many players with whom they had felt a connection with and replaceed them with players who are either not needed or too young to play for them.
New season of JAFFN , Here we nosh!
Mad thing with Chelsea is idk how it ends. They seem to keep getting round the long contracts issue by selling an academy product like Gallagher or Mount for pure profit, certainly PSR hasn’t stopped them chucking money at players this summer. The fans aren’t gonna realistically push the owners out and the ownership and technical directors are clearly determined that we’re all the naive ones and their strategy is genius. They aren’t giving up even though they aren’t winning so how does this end!?!?
Wow, my first ever birthday JAFFN, what a treat
Flav in a nutshell is calling out Vardy for being 38 and doing immature celebrations then 20 minutes later laughing a drawing of spaghetti his mates just done
A lot of rumors that Chelsea will be punished for issues under abromovic, potentially a transfer ban. Could explain all the young players
Anyone who can't appreciate Jaws as the tightly scripted, well acted, tense 5/5 masterpiece that it is isn't worth listening to on any subject tbh
Nah, anything less than a 4.5/5 for Jaws is nonsense. I'm 24 and watched it for the first time last year, thought it was one of the best films I've ever seen.
Oceans 11 better than Jaws..no just no. Happy Gilmore is a great film made when films were actually funny, we don't get any good comedy films now.
23:35 Important context: All those "offers" were small extensions and he obviously wanted a multi-year contract like his peers
Wildcarding this week.
2 transfers banked. Planning on no haaland. Until gw 7. He’s had to score two hat tricks to keep up with Salah,
Raya, Valdermassen
Trent, robbo, 2 4.5mil, mosquera
Palmer, Salah, Eze, mitoma, Semenyo
Watkins, Pedro, Solanke
Double up on the Arsenal defence gw 6
222 points overal 1.3 million
Wildcarding to remove son out the team and to spread the funds onto the bench which is currently sangare, Quansah and Barco
We do have academy products in the first team - James and Colwill are in the team, and the structure seems to be “the cream always rises to the top” - the best youngsters will make it. I do agree we have done academy players dirty though such as exciting Chalobah. That behavior is soulless, but I think the kids will see there is a pathway if they can be elite, essentially. We’ll see if it works.