Crystal Palace Station is Needlessly Magnificent
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Crystal Palace and the station built for it. Well, one of them.
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I’m so happy that the curse of landing up at the wrong station has been lifted from you today 😂
Luckily for him, the one he'd have got confused with was closed back in the 1950s 😂
It could have been a pointless journey from High Level to Low Level 🤪
Could have been Alexandra Palace
It could have been Hyde Park.
@@chrisoddy8744 Might have ended up in Glasgow, in a Wetherspoons.😊
Jago - you're definitely a glass act! Who else would have gone to such panes to tell this story? Who else could have made the convoluted twists and turns as crystal clear as you have?
Bravo.
That's really Paneful!🧐
@@johntyjp mere putty in my hands
The puns hurt like a smashed bottle to the head, but Jago is very good at making clear and concise videos out of confusing subjects.
@@johntyjp you share my fenestration about this too
At certain times, Crystal Palace station is an ethereal, almost magical place. For example: on a warm Sunday afternoon with a slight breeze, when the place is deserted and the only sounds are those of the pigeons occasionally fluttering about, and suddenly without warning a non-stopping train emerges from the nearby tunnel portal and hurtles through the station and is gone almost as soon as it arrived, and the whole scene settles back into its previous torpor as though in a dream.
It's Sunday and it's warm. Might pop in.
seems it was for a time our ethereal ancestors roamed the earth too
Sometimes, one needs a bit of grandeur in one's everyday life, and this station can give this feeling. It's as apparent as crystal.
There is also the somewhat remarkable and short-lived experimental Crystal Palace Pneumatic Railway built in 1864. There's a good Wiki article about this curious 'tube railway' that had a coach propelled by air pressure in a tunnel. Perhaps the most interesting thing about it is that it's probably still there but has been lost, in the sense that nobody seems too sure where the tunnel is.
There was a second pneumatic railway that ran from New Cross to Croydon. Propelled by a torpedo shape in a tube fixed under the train. The train was un crashable.See the book The Phoenix Suburb. The subway next to Smiths in Forest Hill is the only remaining part. The old Forest hill station tower now demolished was the chimney for the engine room.
I think those beat the Beach Pneumatic Railway in New York.
I remember reading about this years ago - I've been fascinated by the story of this lost bit of railway ever since...
A Victorian hyperloop?
nothing is new , just recycled technology @@themoose8
As a South Londoner who has been going to CP Park since I was kid, I can't tell you how much I would have loved to have seen The Crystal Palace in all its glory. I often think of it when I walk in the park and imagine what it was like. Now I just put up with supporting the football team!
I used to live about a mile away, and can remember as a child hearing the 'buzzing' of racing cars on the motor racing circuit on some Sundays.
Did I ever tell you I went to the francophone branch of the north london Crystal Palace supporters club? Yes the Allez Pallais, are quite the thing....
There's a street near Grove Park station in SE12 called 'Palace View'. One of several viewpoints round here no doubt used on that fateful night. My father remembered seeing the glow in the sky from his home in Winchmore Hill N21.
My Dad said he was able to see the fire from near Croydon where he lived.
@@davidkimmins8781
"Victorian Disneyland!" Sums it up beautifully...My teacher in junior school saw the glow in the sky when it burned down in 1936..nearly as bad as the blittz in 1940! Another nice one , Jago, lets hear more of Crystal Palace...( thinks.."you're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!)
Disney resorts not doing that well either currently, so that's interesting
I just asked on my Facebook page the connection between Micheal Caine saying that and Crystal Palace. I'm American and OF COURSE only an English woman knew the answer.
@@silasmarner7586 Now then, not many people know that. (ask her to explain this one)
@@silasmarner7586I'd like to know the answer as well.
Now listen Jago, nobody move, I've got an idea.
Imagine a 17 year old Dutch boy traveling to London by train for the first time in his life and getting of the train at Christal Palace (there was a model shop across the road then in the late seventies). OK I was familiar with Antwerp Central (black with sooth in those days). But how grant could British Railway Architecture be if they build a station like this in the middle of nowhere. After my time at the modelshop I took quite some time walking around the station wondering about its odd set-up and marvalous construction.
Thx for reminding me of that encounter.
There are extensive vaults underneath the road from the High Level Station to the palace entrance that are currently being rebuilt or refurbished. It would be great to see these in your future high level station video plus any information you uncover about the pneumatic railway in the park itself. 😊
When I was a working guy I spent an awful lot of time at that station, especially late in the evening coming home… often I had the feeling of being on some Surrealist stage set, like something designed by Giorgio de Chirico or Paul Delvaux for a film by Alfred Hitchcock, to the extent that it’s platforms still crop up in dreams ten years later… spooky is as spooky does!
Many of these victorian stations are a sight to behold. As a child, I used Peckham Rye and North Dulwich Stations a great deal. Both rather splendid buildings in their own right
Peckham rye used to be my local station..the good old days
Thornton Heath is a treat!
Peckham Rye in it's current state is a travesty. There's plans to bring it back to it's former glory, which I'm all in favour of, but there will be a part of me that will miss the fruit and veg blade-runner feel of it's current setup.
@@oscarfeatherstone6688 Great description, it does have that vibe.
@Isabella-tf1qc ...err, very nice, love, but this is a train spotters' channel..
It is a shame so many of our grand buildings have been lost to history. Sure some of the modern glass skyscrapers look nice but that thing must have been immense.
I live a short walk from the last surviving Victorian era exhibition complex in the world. The Royal Exhibition Building in Melbourne is massive and it clearly takes architectural inspiration from the Crystal Palace. I got my Covid shots there, along with hundreds of thousands of other people.
I sat a few university exams there back in the day...
Modern glass skyscrapers were born from it. It changed the world.
My Dad was working on the railways and said that the glow from the fire could be seen from Newhaven in Sussex. Of course, workers there formed a football club in 1905, playing at 'The Nest' which is where Selhurst Depot now stands. They called themselves Crystal Palace and were nicknamed The Glaziers until a certain Malcolm Allison decided to change that to The Eagles in the 1970's.
My Dad saw The Crystal Palace burning as he cycled across the Hog's Back South of Guildford and some 30 miles away. I could never really understand what there was to burn in a building made of glass and iron. Great video as always, Jago.
I never understood that either! My mother watched it from her home in Sydenham
Glass burns at a very high temperature once molten and all the flooring inside was oiled wood. Linseed oil which can self combust under the right conditions when soaked into other materials like the cloths used to apply it.
@@tonys1636 Thank you. Another query from the deep past solved.
My grandmother saw it burning too, certainly the "end of an era" as Churchill called it
From various sources - the wooden flooring of the Palace was very old and very dried out , so (along with wooden furniture etc present) somewhat flammable once the fire started.
'Fun fact' - Edward VIII abdicated a few days later.
It would be great if they could link this to the Croydon Tramlink one day
@Isabella-tf1qc In the name of Allah I invite you to stop spamming about religion b/c it's none of your business what others do w/ their spiritual life. When someone wants to learn about Allah they'll look it up. Keep your myths to yourself, spammer.
Crystal Palace was an annual visit on the August bank holiday for the motor sport revival. The Crystal Palace track was a top flight venue for both car and bike racing up to the early 70s
The first ever recording of a concert was made by an employee of Edison inside the Crystal Palace in 1888. It was a performance of Israel in Egypt by Handel, and you can find it on RUclips. Quite ghostly... More time has passed since that recording than between Handel's death and the concert.
Some years back, I happened to be shown some of the Thomas Cook archives.Cook was an itinerant preacher who approached the railway companies to create excursions around the north for people to attend religious meetings. This moved on to arranging hotel and travel bookings, and he was active in the success of the Crystal Palace Exhibition. So it was that success which prompted the rail companies afterwards to set up the reconstructed Palace at Sydenham. Incidentally, a crystal palace was built in Sydney for the 1888 Centenary of Australia, near the--what was then--rail terminus.Cook was ,incidentally ,the creator of the Swiss hotel industry: he told the Swiss government that he could bring in voyagers, but that they would need superior accommodation
It’s crystal clear that Jago is a glass of high level content.
Nice midweek surprise Jago. Thanks! Steve Marsh did the same today. You're obviously on the same psychic wavelength as him.
I’m glad you got to the right station this time. I was worried that if that thing kept happened, you would have accidentally ended up in London, Ontario
"Feels a little...big" - best YT closer of the day!
Truly, the Crystal Palace was the peak of Victorian beautiful engineering. It still stirs my heart to see images of it, and moves me near to tears to see its destruction. Winston Churchill was right when he commented on its destruction, "It is the end of an era."
On fun little side note is that late in its life the Palace served as Britain's first television studio. Scottish inventor John Logie-Baird's electro-mechanical television was starting to catch on in the 1920's-30's, but filming for it required a lot of light. What better place then to stage early TV productions than a building made mostly of glass? Sadly, Logie-Baird was facing serious competition from Philo Farnsworth's all-electronic television, and while the two systems were level-pegged for awhile the 1936 fire destroyed all of Logie-Baird's broadcasting equipment and basically ended his TV dreams.
I think it was Alexandra Palace, North London, rather than Crystal Palace, South London, that was the site of Britain’s first Television studio.
@@craigthomson3621 Bairds first studio strictly was in a mix of somewhere in Hastings, Savoy House (institute of Electrical Engineers) and Selfridges (plus the use of an Aircraft and other OB facilities. The BBC Television studios indeed were at Alexandra Palace. Baird did some broadcasts that were a form of closed circuit TV insofar as they were beamed to Cinemas (mostly sporting events - boxing/horseracing)
@@highpath4776 Fair enough, it wasn't his "first" television studio. But in 1933 Logie Baird did indeed move his broadcasting to the Crystal Palace, South London. I will also admit to the error in saying that the '36 fire was the end of his career; after the fire broadcasts were indeed moved to Ally Pally.
@@sirrliv Baird continued at Crystal Palace after the fire using one of the towers (until WW2 when they were blown up supposedly so the luftwaffe couldnt use them for direction finding (as if St Pauls wasnt big enough to see) . I cannot recall where Baird research and production happened thereafter (it was in a couple of books ), The company carried on but John himself was "relegated" to technical consultant
7:10 If it wasn't for the platform sign at the edge, that shot could have been composed by Canaletto...
I've lived in Crystal Palace since 2011 and I must say it's an interesting feeling to walk around the old palace grounds knowing what once stood there. Almost haunting, it's just people throwing frisbees to their dogs now. I'm happy the low level station remains as a remnant of what once was, but man I wish they kept the high level!
My primary school was down the road from this station, used to catch the train from here everyday after school during the 80s/90s. Much happier times
Near the furthest end of the crystal palace, if situated at crystal palace station, there still remained, right up until the late 1990s the original burnt out shell of the old employees housing quarters. The floor had bright mosaics made from pottery, most of the base of the actual super structure and old and decrepit burnt furnishings were scattered about there. It seemed that every few years the site was cleaned and maintained(weeds pulled, cobbled paths cleared ect) but the physical remnants of the building was never moved or destroyed. When I was under 10, the site was surrounded by barbed wire fences ect, but in the 1990s the put up a massive grey fence, much like the one you showed, and that permanently obscured the site from view, and made it so you couldn't go in there in anymore. It was a fascinating place, old furniture, decorations and various materials littered to whole site and it was like walking into the olden days. The mosaics on the floor were of peacocks and lions ect plus musical instruments. I used to play there all the time, but as I said they just shut it away and I understand why, but they couldve made it into an exhibit of some kind because those ruins would be 100 years old by now. I haven't been up there in years, but it might still be there.
Last time I visited Crystal Palace was 2016 and my phone died on the journey. Asked station staff if there was a pay phone at the station but she didn't understand the concept.
I remember in the seventies the walkway through the main building was in a dreadful state, pigeons occupying the roof with their droppings covering everything. Very few people used the station. It was a relief when the new little ticket office was built to see that the Crystal Palace design was made use of instead of there being the usual prefab box of a ticket office being installed and the old building was shut completely. It was wonderful to see the refurbished building and the new curved roof a few years ago, it shows that someone cares about the heritage of the place.
Maybe one day you will do a video on the underground pneumatic railway that ran under a part of the park? There is a legend that the carriage is still buried underground and full of the skeletons of the last passengers. There was also a proposal to build an underground monorail from Crystal Palace to central London, yes really.
If you look for Ken Russel's early film "Amelia and the Angel" it shows scenes of the disused former high level station. It has only recently been revealed that during World War II the closed park was the location of a top secret factory where the radar equipment for aircraft was made.
I agree. It was even worse in the 60s!
Have you got a source for that as my sources are adamant that Baird (who continued to occupy part of the site) was not and never was involved with Radar ( in part as Baird's company had German shareholdings and contacts / joint ventures.
I’m afraid the National Sports Centre next door, is very much neglected from its glory days in the past, almost as bad as the station’s neglect of the 70s/80s. Khan refused refurbishment funding for the NSC site, not even a top class sporting venue for the station to serve these days.
@@highpath4776 I replied to this but for some reason it got deleted. The reference of radar components is from the Wikipedia entry for Crystal Palace which is not always the most reliable of sources. There is more information on the local history website (I won't give a link as that might have been why my first answer was removed).
@@robertb7918 There was a claim in a book with information supplied that Baird was working with radar (the informant being one of Baird's relatives, Malcolm). This information has been basically debunked , see research at University of Glasgow (which generally supported Malcolms assertions without quoting sources) and the rebuttle research which basically covered such govt contracts of research and materals and whom and where they were supplied from. Of course it being WW2ish and notwithstanding any release of classified material thusfar there are the unknown unknowns. I have friends who worked (and improved) marine Radar systems (Decca later Racal) but most given facilities were in New Malden ( a bit at Albert Embankment and near Battersea Park station - described as a warehouse ) but that was post war. Radar was essentially an assembly of components so things like valves/ crts could be ordered from Mullard (even with its overseas ultimate ownership) or Brimar without the supplier knowing what the ultimate purpose was.
You sometimes wonder if the 1936 Crystal Palace fire was the same sort of building spontaneous combustion that befell the Crooked House in the Black Country over the last weekend....
Seems like it wasn’t just the house that was crooked HEYOOOOOO
Good architecture can lift the human spirit. I'm always filled a little bit of the old wonder whenever I take a train from this station.
the palace burnt down on my grandmas 20th birthday and was only a few streets away from the site so could feel the heat from her road
I still have many fond memories of the area, the park and the station. Around 1980 there was a proposal for a railway heritage centre in the space where the Orchard Grove estate now sits. I always felt it was a shame that the plan failed to take off. The plans at the time were quite detailed.
My grandmother lived in Highgate and could see the Palace burning down. It must have been so sad.
I used to pass through or change trains at this station during the late 60s/early 70s. Still remember what it was like on a winter's evening. With plenty of gas lights (mantles et al) the atmosphere was like something out of a Hammer Horror.
Paxton designed the gorgeous semi circle windows at Buxton station!
I love those!
@JagoHazzard I travelled from the South Coast to Buxton just to look at them, then walked the Monsal Trail to Bakewell...if you haven't done this yet, it's beyond fab..
I grew up there and walked about the foundations many times. A tragic case. It should have been kept in good condition as a testament to Great Britain’s history, but greed and money got in the way. A fire? What a shame. I live in France now and have done so for quite some time. They appreciate their history and keep their old structures in tact. The Crystal palace and the high level station should have been preserved. In between the station and the palace was an underground vaulted walkway and I played a concert there in the late 1970’s with an orchestra from the All-saints church which was at the end of church road. This ran from the palace to South Norwood hill. I also filmed a pop video there in 1992. It had always been closed but was opened occasionally for special purposes. A part of my past. The Crystal Palace was an incredible building and should still be there.
A bit unfair to blame the people of the 20s and 30s for not keeping it in better condition, as it was a gigantic structure with little purpose, and a time of economic depression. The UK is hardly short of old and historical structures, so I'm not sure the comparison with France is correct either.
@@PlanetoftheDeaf Agreed, if anything us Brits are far more sentimental and careful with our historical effects than any other country in the world (would be happy to hear examples to the contrary).
National Trust, English Heritage, Historic England, Listed Buildings etc etc.
Well, they had to be carefully packed & shipped from whatever colony they were stolen from, so that's a good start. @@_Wombat
My grandfather saw the palace burn from north London. It lit up the sky in a way then never known...the blitz made that way less of a novelty...
Learning about the history of a station AND the Crystal Palace - perfect! I saw the palace mentioned now and then but never learned about what ultimately happened to it. Must have been a quite impressive sight in its time and probably still would be today.
And in New York,we had the late great Pennsylvania Station,which was based on the Baths of Caracala! It too was an expanse of iron and glass,and during the early and mid 60's,I made many a trip,into and out of that immense station! On the outbound side,you could see the GG-1, pulling your train to Pennsylvania,from the top,quite a sight to an impressionable lad,otherwise magnificent! Oh,the memories! Thank you 😇 😊!! Oh,yes,forgot!! The Bronx Botanic Gardens,runs a Christmas train exposition every year,so its close as most people could get to the feel of the old Crystal Palace,in the current conditions! Again,thank you!! Thank you 😇 😊!!
I'm glad you made that crystal clear.
Another brilliant short story. Nice shots too. Btw, Electrostars are beauties...
I often get the train here from Brockley when taking my dogs out for a long walk around Crystal Palace Park, it is a very grand station that just oozes with Victorian architecture. We also go to Sydenham Hill Woods where you can walk along part of old upper level track until to get to Crescent Wood Tunnel which is blocked off due to safety reasons.
There was also a Crystal Palace High Level Station which closed in 1954. As late as the 1990s my parents and grandparents still talked of catching a train from "the Low Level station", never Crystal Palace Station.
I dream of being well connected and to have lost my raisin debt.
They built magnificent railway stations because they could.
I love this station!
When I saw your dinosaur video I was hoping you'd do a video on the station too. Crystal Palace is such a gem.
Had to make a few trips there earlier this year. A lovely station indeed
At one time we were Regal and our exhibitions were a Mecca to come to and had an Empire. Now all we have is an Odeon
I see what you did there.
It was designed for large numbers of people, that’s why the stairs to the platforms are very wide. The numbers were so large in fact that they justified the high level station. All that’s left is the very nice underpass that is currently being refurbished. With the Palace gone, there wasn’t much need for these stations, of course. Before the arrival of the overground, the main ticket hall was closed and the whole station had a dormant feel to it. The new inflated roof over the platforms was installed around the time when the overground arrived in 2010. At that time one of the stairwells was closed and the one in the centre rebuilt. One set of stairs was removed for one of the new lifts and electrical equipment.
As for the Crystal Palace: the probable cause was a crack in a steam pipe which ignited the debris under the floorboards which had accumulated beneath. The guard on night duty spent too much time trying to find the fire before calling the fire brigade. When they arrived it had spread too far and even the water towers couldn’t help. They survived the fire, but were later demolished. The foundations can still be seen. There are also some remains of the aquarium. The terraces were partially bulldozed for a demonstration when there was an exhibition of building equipment on. Well done. The whole site is in disrepair, with headless statues, broken balustrades and overgrown stairs. There was a Chinese developer a few years back who wanted to rebuild the palace, but it came to nothing.
i hope you never stop making your videos. i watch several train nerd channels and while they are very good, your style is just brilliant. i always get happy when i see a new vid from you. even when you do your ”other” videos they are well researched and presented👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Absolutely agree with this!
Liked the photo of the old map on the wall in an entrance to Victoria Station, not many know of it as now has cladding over it but at least has been preserved.
Back in the 1980s, these wall-maps (one of LBSC London lines, one of the rest of the network) were almost completely obscured by rows of phone boxes.
I remember reading about the Crystal Palace and seeing photos of it when I was a youngster, and was devastated to learn that it had burned down a dozen years before I was born -- how could a building of iron and glass burn down? Crystal Palace has remained a subject of interest for me, so this was fun to see. The practicalities of such a building/attraction are almost as much fun as the architecture. Transportation (so many stations), maintenance (who washed all those windows?), heating (how much coal did it take to make it livable in winter) -- obsessive history buffs want to know!
The "Morden" of the LSBC Terrier(?) would of course be Morden Road Halt ( which was named Morden ) for a while. Now a tramlink stop
Next time you're in Edinburgh, Jago, pay the National Museum of Scotland a visit. The three storey Great Hall of the old Royal Scottish Museum building is actually copied from Paxton's design for the Crystal Palace.
1:37 That quite the timeframe. I think that’s commendable.
Been a Palace football club fan all my life, and I always go to Norwood Junction or Selhurst station for the games. Once though, I found myself going to Crystal Palace station for the first time, and I wondered why it was so beautiful. Thank you for making this video explaining just that!
My Grandmother remembered watching the glow from the Crystal Palace fire from Croydon.
Ah, Crystal Palace - I always thought it must have been boiling hot there in the summer!
It does look a very lovely and cared for station :)
My favourite station too, beautiful to use.
It would be great to hear about the high level station. There are remains of some of that railway in Sydenham hill woods.
We went from the amazing structure of the Crystal Palace....to a giant plastic body in a huge circus tent.
That's progress!!
I was impressed and somewhat bemused by the complexity of Crystal Palace railway station when I visited to tick off visiting another London Pearson designed church nearby. You have answered all the questions here with to its splendour and railway complexity. I did also walk up to the park and site of the Crystal Palace. Yes please to more of the history and information about this place.
A few years ago Thameslink trains from the Gatwick line were running from East Croydon through Norwood Junction where they were routed via Crystal Palace. The trains reached Blackfriars via Gypsy Hill, Tulse Hill and Herne Hill. It's quite a maze of lines, and the trains were usually held up by other suburban services. It's a lot quicker now that trains run via London Bridge.
If you want to find other bits of the palace, they're in The Fens on Holme Fen which used to be Wittlesea Mere and was drained in 1851 to be turned into farmland. It was apparently the next biggest lake in England to Windermere but only a few feet deep. Some pillars from the Crystal Palace were hammered into the exposed lake bed till their tops were at bed level. The idea was that the bed would settle and dry and shrink and expose the pillar and thus allow shrinkage to be measured. When I was living in Kings Lynn I cycled out to one. There's a wee information board beside it. About 1867, the land had shrunk to sea level. By 1971, the base of the post was exposed and needed propping up and a new post inserted beside it. The land has shrunk about another meter since and is now about 12 feet or so below sea level.
This has always intrigued me, simply because wouldn't whatever the post was hammered into and so sitting upon be shrinking too, and how would that have been accommodated for in measurements.
Thanks, didn't know of that one. Is it still accessible? I might pay a visit.
@@fenlinescouser4105 It is accessible. I checked on the Atlas Obscura. It is on the Holme Fen National Nature Reserve by Heights Drove Road, Ramsey Heights PE26 2RS. (I remember cycling through Ramsey Abbey to get there. It was in the early 2000's when I was last there and the blurb is more accurate than my memory!)
Interesting! It's good that cathedral of a station survives and is well looked after - unlike the gargantuan palace itself or the former High Level station.
Travelling back from Charing Cross to Blackheath last week, I heard a family mention you as we went through Waterloo East and admiring the design of the station.
Nice!
I like the fact that Platform 1 and 2 look like something from The Railway Children
Good video and a interesting station with a great history, and I agree too it's one of the best looking stations in London.
I hope 🤞 that one ☝️ day, there’s a new palace one ☝️ day. What a crystalline video, Sir. J. Hazzard.
What a remarkable transformation the Low Level station is from the crumbling edifice with which I was familiar in the 1970s. At that time I lived opposite the site of the former High Level station. Of course, money for station refurbishment is unlimited in London and the southeast (he added bitterly). Not so here in the northwest where a vandalised 1970s-style bus shelter is apparently sufficient for our needs.
The WEL&CPR was a joint venture by the LBSCR and the London Chatham & Dover Railway to give both access to the west End using a new station at Victoria - diverging at Crystal Palace towards Norwood Junction on the former's line from London Bridge and to Beckenham Junction to meet up with the LCDR's line. The two companies rapidly fell out and each built their own more direct line, via Norbury and via West Dulwich respectively. The two halves of Victoria still have distinctly different architecture, and indeed a wall was built separating the two halves - not removed until both companies became part of the new Southern Railway in 1923. The distinction between the LCDR and the more upmarket LBSCR was referenced by Oscar Wilde when his character Ernest Worthing is at pains to emphasise that the left luggage office in which he was found as a baby was that of "The Brighton Line", only to be rebuffed by Lady Bracknell's retort that "The line is immaterial"
Once again, another station (low level) that I wish I had a time machine to go back and visit...
The anagram map of the tube is extremely well done. My favourite is Detergent and Whitest Too, which is Totteridge and Whetstone.
I live in Sydenham, I'm in the park all the time. It's a great place to just relax. One part of me would love for it to be rebuilt, maybe as a market and botantical garden. But the other part of me loves how quiet it is. You can see Biggin Hill Airport and the Dartford Crossing from the highest points of the park too. The hordings are down to events happening - quite a lot this summer. They'll be gone by September.
Nice to see all those lovely yellow bricks have been sandblasted
I agree. This station is pretty and big.
I used to go to Crystal Palace Sports Center for Sports on a school day, I learnt Squash and Trampoline, although I mainly stood watching the crush of my school days Ms............ Sports teacher.
The West End of London and Crystal Palace Railway was the way the LBSCR reached Victoria Station and today forms a part of the Brighton Main Line.
Hello Jago, I have just had the pleasure of seeing your “ Crystal Palace video.
Than you do much for this.
I travelled the Birkbeck - West Norwood section of this line and discovered delights of CP and frequently travelled on, what I know as the 08 train that stopped at CP LL to investigate then delights of this station before my usually “36”(headcode) train arrived to continue my journey to Birkbeck.
At that time (1967-1970) I became interested in the Crystal Palace and it’s railways.
I remember my mother talking about the red glow in the sky, the burning down of the Crystal Palace seen from Tonbridge in Kent as “that was a significant/some fire”
The high level station had long gone so I could only see the Low level station that still existed. A lot had changed but there were still remanants of the past, now all erased forever, only memories.
Jago, please do a video on the High Level. The last train running a special in 1954.
There are many lost lines.
Best wishes from Oxfordshire, Doug.
In the bottom right hand corner at 7:40, you can see one of the ticket machines it was once my job to service and repair. I have had that thing in pieces more often than I care to remember!
I like the use of maps in this video!
Very few people read these comments, they haven’t the the time. Superbly researched video, a topic that merits perhaps more precious coverage. The Great Exhibition was indeed the brainchild of Prince Albert who gave London so many other cultural highlights from museums to (yes that) concert hall. He did a massive amount of work to promote London, Britain and the empire. My father on the other hand, at the age of three remembers Crystal Palace burning down. His family lived in Norwood, but they witnessed the sad event from that distance.
Would love to see more on the subject of Prince Albert‘s contribution to London‘s format as a cultural capital city. If that makes sense. Best wishes as always from Germany!
Adventure Me has done some good vid series on Crystal Palace Park etc and Battersea Park ( as well as places closer to him - Golden Acre in Leeds and Scarborough and Blackpool pleasure and winter gardens
@@highpath4776 thanks for the tip! Much appreciated!
Why do you think "few people read these comments", b/c they don't reply? What nonsense.
Jago go to Oxford where IIRC there is an old station which used some of the same brackets which was used in the Crystal Palace. You get a twofer....A visit to an old station and footage of parts of Crystal Palace.
Lovely presentation, thank you! Looking forward to your HL coverage, not least because of many afternoons spent exploring the pathway along the abandoned branch from Nunhead \m/
Will mention that there are tours of the CP High Level station as it now is.
Yes, a very grand station. Even without the Palace itself, the park itself is still an attraction, plus there's also the National Sports Centre there too to bring in rail customers, even if that's seen better days...
Crystal Palace is definitely one of the grandest stations in London, we need a bit of grandeur in our lives from time to time. All things considered this station has been beautifully refurbished and maintained. If only the same could be said of Battersea Park Station. The booking hall is an exercise in grandeur on a much smaller scale, however I feel the station resembles a tired dowager duchess and could do with a bit of love and attention in the same style as Crystal Palace Station. With all the development going on nearby at Battersea Power Station you'd think the powers that be would give the old Station a much needed makeover as the rise in traffic will only increase
You might want to visit one of the flower / produce displays at the Paxton Horticultural Society, Headingly Leeds (combine with visit to Middledon Railway and Armley Mills (and the Armoury museum if you are in to that
A far too belated note of thanks for these small gems of specific history. London holds a special place in my memory and the Underground (and Overground, for that matter) was always more than just a means of conveyance to me. It still seems like such an aspirational achievement, even in the 21st century.
Many thanks!
Crystal Palace is indeed a beautiful station, many thanks again for a top video.
I did enjoy it being my station when it was
It's a little of topic for you but the UK's first post Roman concrete building is 2 mins walk from CP station. It's a church now converted to flats I once lived in.
It makes me sad that the Crystal Palace burned down and they no longer hold the great exhibition anymore. The building looked amazing and elegant, and the engineering feats on display were equally impressive.
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Great video, as always! One thing I'd add - the station does indeed look grand in 2023, but that wasn't always the case. I'm not sure if it was done up during the Southern managed era or the London Overground management era, but in the nineties under Network South Central / Connex, the original platforms to/from Sydenham only got a parliamentary service - a couple a day in each direction tops, and the barebone service those platforms got really showed.
I will have to visit there my next time in the UK.
As a young child living in nearby Upper Norwood in the 1980s, I remember the distinctive 'aroma' of Crystal Palace Train Station. The 'aroma' may have had something to do with the tar/oil on the trackbed and the manual-door 'clackety-clack' trains (Class 4 VEP, 4 CEP, Class 415, 416, the Hastings Diesels, etc) that are sadly no longer in use, except for those few preserved examples on Heritage Railways (the current trains with automatic doors and digital destination displays lack character, in my opinion).
It's always awesome seeing a Jago Hazzard vid!!!
It's astonishing, the resemblance of the interior from that postcard to modern malls. It succeeded in being an overwhelmingly-large and beautiful structure, but making it permanent definitely helped make such structures normalised. So in some ways Crystal Palace might be blamed for modern sprawl malls 🤔
Love your new shots of the station compared to the last videos too, very peaceful summer's day feeling.
5:50 that shot is really nice.