100% I got bored after 5 minutes of him judging and being all about himself and how awesome he is and how he knows better than anybody else.... One size does not fit all dude.
I like Jayson more after this. I would have more sympathy for him at the games if he had shared his journey with us instead of ghosting us. Separately, what does Jayson get from HWPO that he cannot get from training at Crash and having JR coach him? It’s an environment and people that align better with his values. He also did the best at the games while he was working out there.
Physical burnout leads to emotional issuss too. It's the bodies response to slow you dome when you're on am unsustainable pathway. Needing to take 3 days off 2 weeks before the games sounds like an ineffective taper. This isn't all on the athlete - coaches make mistakes too. Good luck Jason - I hope you rebound from this burnout ❤
I agree. I think the way that Hunter said that Jason will never recover or perform well again was overly simplistic. Clearly Jason is in a recovering mode . I don’t like the business bro mentality of oversimplifying success, it’s exhausting.
@@Haydencpalmer definitely! I understand Hunters point that champions tend to live and breath their sport. They sacrifice all else. But many athletes like that struggle badly mentally after they retire too. It's no one's place to judge a person's choice ultimately. Jason isn't delusional about either and knows his limits which is admirable.
Hey. Maybe Ben B has something to offer It’s not just brawn. Sometimes values and happiness should be in the mixture. BTW. HUGE Fraser fan. At 64 , when we had boxjumps, coach would say … hey Mat wouldn’t stop. WWMFD should have been my wrist band
What an interesting interview and what an interesting pattern we starting to see with some Games athletes now. I believe this “burn out syndrome “ is a testament of how young this sport is. Other sports with huge intense training loads like swimming, cycling, etc have had so many years to learn from the mistakes. Coaches of today’s CrossFit is still in the experimental phase and have very few scientific studies to rely on. Imagine having 100 years of experience with numerous scientific studies to build your coaching on - in many sport you measure rest heart rate, checking lactate levels and draw blood for different test - on a daily basis - just to avoid burnout.
Professional Athletes are complex people. All things considered though what they do is still a job. They simply get more attention than a dr dentist lawyer bus driver etc. Every body makes sacrafices and works hard or otherwise. Sometimes you are rewarded justly and sometimes not. I appreciate athletes for the entertainment and inspiration they provide and I appreciate my accountant for maximising my tax return. My accountant however is not expressing contradictions or where his identity lies. This seems to be a common theme in complex pro athletes
You think Hamish Bond is a weapon, try his partner....Eric Murray and check out his Row Erg Times... he has the 5km world record! And NZ is great at Rowing because we specialize in at at School and Cambridge where I am from is where all the elite rowers go
How DARE Sevan call Hunter a Redhead…. That’s blonde. And definitely the first sign of roids imo, are delts that look like muscle was just slapped on like a wad of clay. Delts that jump up before they jump out to the side. There are some CF Games athletes whose shoulders are starting to look VERY questionable.
Its not humble but actually takes a lot of narcissism to believe god chose to make you great and special. Last I checked Christianity teaches compassion but hunter seems very agressive and unhinged....
@@houseglendale1914 this isn't about love. Hunter was certainly not talking with compassion or love. It was pure narcissism. If that's his take of Christianity then hes missing some important beliefs on how you show kindness. To believe that your skill, hard work and ability was some kind of devine force and you're some kind of special vessel is narcissistic. I need no lecture on Christianity - I am from a very religious country and schooled in that environment...you can't speak for all Christians
@@houseglendale1914 he says it explicitly in the interview. He uses it as a basis to attack Hopper and his approach to see more to life than expression via a sport. I did assume hunters view of God was in the Christian sense (its likely but not definitive I admit) but all major religions teach compassion so my comments aren't a mad leap. But with 8 billion people on the planet, it just seems absurd to me that a God out there intentionally crafted a hyrox champion. I see this as ego and not hubris. I'm not wedded to scripture or the Bible myself and I'm unclear why this side of them has to be so forefront but I guess it's how their environment is. I just don't find it humble to consider yourself God's warrior - I see it as the opposite. That kind of thinking lead to some dark points in history... We can happily disagree which backs my view that Christianity is too complicated for a general we. I come from an island where the differences between the branches (catholic protestant) cost people their life and lead to great hardship. I have very different views to gun rights versus many evangelicals, amongst other topics. I feel so strongly in some cases I'd consider 'we' an insult.
So glad Jayson is back on! I love when he laughs, it's contagious! Thanks for sharing your heart with all of us :)
So great to see Jayson back on the podcast. Such a good dude. Glad he shared his story. Hope he comes back on again soon.
The transition from Jayson to Hunter is FUCKING AMAZING!
Sooo much high-level life lessons!
Enjoyed listening to hopper lots of respect to him for sharing about his values and beliefs.
AMEN HOPPER!!! He is on point!!! Zero worries about where his head is at… he’s a champion in all the right ways!!! Keep at it Hopper!!!!
Amen Jayson.
I FUCKING LOVE HUNTER! Have him on as much as you can this guy is money !!
Love see Hopper here, amazing men of God.
Remember, Jayson is Jesus first, everything else after. Hunter is Hunter first, nothing else after.
There's always hope❤
100% I got bored after 5 minutes of him judging and being all about himself and how awesome he is and how he knows better than anybody else.... One size does not fit all dude.
Row Erg 5km Times - 5000 -30-39-Rob Wadell-NZL-14:58.3
Hunter is my favorite athlete ever❤
Hunter! HAIL TO THE KING BABY!!!
Jesus is lord. Thanks jayson
Row Erg 5km Times - 5000 - 40-49- Mahé Drysdale-NZL - 15:16.4
Biggest mistake Hopper made was joint hwpo instead of mayhem. He would’ve fit in perfectly at mayhem. Perfectly.
Row Erg 5km Times - 5000m - Eric Murray - NZL - 14:56.4
Great podcast guys
Jayson is a great dude.
Awesome show, what a rollercoaster
Andrew’s eyebrow reaction speak for us all
Enjoyed hooper. Sounds like him & Mal were over training
I’d love to know the stats of how long it took most people to click off once Hunter came on.
I like hopper seems like a good guy I wonder if he will watch this back.
Fucking love ,Seve, Hunter. And Hiller together.
I like Jayson more after this. I would have more sympathy for him at the games if he had shared his journey with us instead of ghosting us.
Separately, what does Jayson get from HWPO that he cannot get from training at Crash and having JR coach him? It’s an environment and people that align better with his values. He also did the best at the games while he was working out there.
Physical burnout leads to emotional issuss too. It's the bodies response to slow you dome when you're on am unsustainable pathway. Needing to take 3 days off 2 weeks before the games sounds like an ineffective taper. This isn't all on the athlete - coaches make mistakes too. Good luck Jason - I hope you rebound from this burnout ❤
I agree. I think the way that Hunter said that Jason will never recover or perform well again was overly simplistic. Clearly Jason is in a recovering mode . I don’t like the business bro mentality of oversimplifying success, it’s exhausting.
@@Haydencpalmer definitely! I understand Hunters point that champions tend to live and breath their sport. They sacrifice all else. But many athletes like that struggle badly mentally after they retire too. It's no one's place to judge a person's choice ultimately. Jason isn't delusional about either and knows his limits which is admirable.
Hunter is just a know it all
Eat, drink, breathe, sleep your individual sport.. 24/7 I missed 8 years of movies, lol
Jayson, what a guy ❤❤❤
Everything Hunter said about Lance Armstrong is on point. The guy is an aerobic weapon
Hey. Maybe Ben B has something to offer It’s not just brawn. Sometimes values and happiness should be in the mixture. BTW. HUGE Fraser fan. At 64 , when we had boxjumps, coach would say … hey Mat wouldn’t stop. WWMFD should have been my wrist band
Get Derek weida on. He’s an adaptive athlete and a complete savage
What an interesting interview and what an interesting pattern we starting to see with some Games athletes now. I believe this “burn out syndrome “ is a testament of how young this sport is. Other sports with huge intense training loads like swimming, cycling, etc have had so many years to learn from the mistakes. Coaches of today’s CrossFit is still in the experimental phase and have very few scientific studies to rely on. Imagine having 100 years of experience with numerous scientific studies to build your coaching on - in many sport you measure rest heart rate, checking lactate levels and draw blood for different test - on a daily basis - just to avoid burnout.
Professional Athletes are complex people. All things considered though what they do is still a job. They simply get more attention than a dr dentist lawyer bus driver etc. Every body makes sacrafices and works hard or otherwise. Sometimes you are rewarded justly and sometimes not. I appreciate athletes for the entertainment and inspiration they provide and I appreciate my accountant for maximising my tax return. My accountant however is not expressing contradictions or where his identity lies. This seems to be a common theme in complex pro athletes
Hunter dips?
You think Hamish Bond is a weapon, try his partner....Eric Murray and check out his Row Erg Times... he has the 5km world record! And NZ is great at Rowing because we specialize in at at School and Cambridge where I am from is where all the elite rowers go
Dancer?
Hopper is a good dude but him and Mat don’t mesh.
Burnt out arriving at the games is a pure sign of poor coaching.
Zydrunas Savickas is the strongest man that ever lived not Hafthor.
Sounds like Jayson needs some California Hormones.
I wonder if he's considered going to Mayhem Faith Family Fitness
Wow hunter is such a narcissistic dude... I got bored after few minutes.
Hoper on the other hand... I wish him the best❤
How DARE Sevan call Hunter a Redhead…. That’s blonde. And definitely the first sign of roids imo, are delts that look like muscle was just slapped on like a wad of clay. Delts that jump up before they jump out to the side. There are some CF Games athletes whose shoulders are starting to look VERY questionable.
Hunter = Gingerhoff
First!
Its not humble but actually takes a lot of narcissism to believe god chose to make you great and special.
Last I checked Christianity teaches compassion but hunter seems very agressive and unhinged....
@@houseglendale1914 this isn't about love.
Hunter was certainly not talking with compassion or love. It was pure narcissism. If that's his take of Christianity then hes missing some important beliefs on how you show kindness.
To believe that your skill, hard work and ability was some kind of devine force and you're some kind of special vessel is narcissistic. I need no lecture on Christianity - I am from a very religious country and schooled in that environment...you can't speak for all Christians
@@houseglendale1914 he says it explicitly in the interview. He uses it as a basis to attack Hopper and his approach to see more to life than expression via a sport. I did assume hunters view of God was in the Christian sense (its likely but not definitive I admit) but all major religions teach compassion so my comments aren't a mad leap. But with 8 billion people on the planet, it just seems absurd to me that a God out there intentionally crafted a hyrox champion. I see this as ego and not hubris. I'm not wedded to scripture or the Bible myself and I'm unclear why this side of them has to be so forefront but I guess it's how their environment is. I just don't find it humble to consider yourself God's warrior - I see it as the opposite. That kind of thinking lead to some dark points in history...
We can happily disagree which backs my view that Christianity is too complicated for a general we. I come from an island where the differences between the branches (catholic protestant) cost people their life and lead to great hardship. I have very different views to gun rights versus many evangelicals, amongst other topics. I feel so strongly in some cases I'd consider 'we' an insult.
Seems but a great guy but the Jesus stuff is tough 🙄