Irish Girl Reacts to Pearl Harbor for the first time

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • I shot this video several months ago and it nearly didn’t see the light of day, as a lot of you were asking for more upbeat content and I wanted to give that to you. However a lot of people wanted to see this too, so I felt it was worth sharing. It was very interesting as obviously, I knew the broad strokes of the event of Pearl Harbor, but I didn’t know a lot of the details. This is Irish girl reacts to Pearl Harbor for the first time.
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  • @DianeJennings
    @DianeJennings  2 года назад +151

    I almost left this one on The Editors floor as I felt it is quite serious, but it was very requested -special thanks to Reuben-and they can’t all be upbeat. I learned a lot of new information

    • @brandoncormier4
      @brandoncormier4 2 года назад +6

      Do a video about the Halifax Explosion!

    • @LoneWoIfPack19
      @LoneWoIfPack19 2 года назад +10

      Yes, Pearl Harbor is serious. If you are reacting for knowledge in a respectful way I think it's completely acceptable.
      I'm glad you did.

    • @LoneWoIfPack19
      @LoneWoIfPack19 2 года назад +6

      Congrats Japan! You pissed off the boys, they enlisted, deployed, and when they decided to go home they dropped the Atomic bombs.

    • @JohnMurphy-bo4fe
      @JohnMurphy-bo4fe 2 года назад +6

      You did a great job of giving this the respect it deserves without being boring lol. I didn't know a lot of this either so thank you for posting!

    • @kurtsaxton823
      @kurtsaxton823 2 года назад +6

      This is very touchy to us Americans, my Grandpa was there, in the Navy, my dad served in the Navy during the Korean war and I served in the Navy during desert storm on the green side (Navy Seabees) but this day in history is the most poignant.

  • @JasonMoir
    @JasonMoir 2 года назад +103

    The memorial at Pearl Harbor is a powerful and somber place. Everyone should visit if they get the chance.

    • @LS1007
      @LS1007 2 года назад +5

      There was recently a program on PBS on how Elvis raised a lot of money for the Arizona Memorial.

    • @darkwinter6028
      @darkwinter6028 2 года назад +7

      Yes… Omaha Beach as well.

    • @imuawarriors
      @imuawarriors 2 года назад +3

      I live in Hawaii, and try to visit the memorial when I can. It is still very emotional...

    • @slford80
      @slford80 2 года назад +2

      In 1995, my mom was TDY to Australia for work and when she came back, my dad met her halfway in Hawaii. They visited Pearl Harbor my mom said she could feel the spirits of everyone that died that day. Truly a somber and unnerving moment for her

    • @imuawarriors
      @imuawarriors 2 года назад +3

      @@slford80 I cry every time I visit... there are still oil droplets that float to the surface from the USS Arizona...

  • @jamesshearer9616
    @jamesshearer9616 2 года назад +163

    Thank you for being aware, Dianne. Once when I was in a meeting with 18 well educated American young adults, someone mentioned it was Deccember 7th. I responded quietly "a date which will live in infamy". Not one understood the quote. It was a very sad day for me. We old folk need you young folk to study and learn from our mistakes. It is nice to see you aspiring to do that.

    • @pat2562
      @pat2562 2 года назад +12

      I'm American and I've met many Europeans far more knowledgeable about our history than the average youngish person.
      In 2013, my 46 yr old roommate with a degree in education from USC, asked me the date on Dec 7th. I did a poor Roosevelt impression, "December 7th....." and she said, "what is that"?
      "Pearl Harbor day".
      You should sit down for her reply,
      "I forget, why did we attack them"?

    • @Caseytify
      @Caseytify 2 года назад +3

      Originally FDR intended to say "history," and changed it at the last minute to "infamy." You can see his typewritten notes with the handwritten change.

    • @marfaxa
      @marfaxa 2 года назад

      And nobody listens to the Pixies anymore...

    • @zzirSnipzz1
      @zzirSnipzz1 2 года назад +5

      I am from N.ireland i love my ww2 history, If you dont learn about your past you are forever doomed to make the same mistakes

    • @vinnynj78
      @vinnynj78 2 года назад +1

      @@pat2562 Sell this person marshland New Jersey Real estate now

  • @BillW1
    @BillW1 2 года назад +57

    One of my uncles fought at the Philippines, and was shipboard during the largest kamikaze attacks at Okinawa. He was in his last year of school at the time of Pearl Harbor and wanted to enlist then. My grandfather wouldn’t let him until graduation. He enlisted in the Marines in July of 1942, and didn’t come home until 1946.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +16

      There Seem to be a lot of viewers with connections Bill! So interesting

    • @victorwaddell6530
      @victorwaddell6530 2 года назад +2

      My stepfather's father was a US Navy torpedo /divebomber pilot in the Pacific Campaign WW2 . He survived the war but lost some friends . After the war he shipped over to the USAF and flew until his retirement just before the Vietnam War .

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 2 года назад +3

      @@DianeJennings thankfully evil totalitarian regimes like Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan make terrible decisions. It's impossible to justify pearl harbor.

  • @svenska81
    @svenska81 2 года назад +45

    My father enlisted in the Navy in June of 1942, days after graduating from high school. He served in the Pacific Theater, and saw the mushroom clouds from the nuclear bombs from very far away. He very rarely talked about the war. Twenty years on he woke to the sound of a low flying plane and screamed “Air raid, air raid, air raid”. He died of cancer at the age of 45; I was 12. RIP Ships Cook First Class Lester W. Johnson, USN

    • @tomswoodwork
      @tomswoodwork 2 года назад +1

      My Grandpa was drafted 1 week after he graduated High School in 45. While he was in basic, the war ended. He went to Germany as a bunker buster and later a wire chief putting communication lines back up. I still have the ORIGINAL pictures he took while he was over there

  • @kerrykelly3699
    @kerrykelly3699 2 года назад +54

    Let me be 'That Guy' and correct one of the points in the video. The nukes were named "Fat MAN" and "Little Boy". Also, the Japanese did not get our aircraft carriers. That was a big goof up.

    • @darkwinter6028
      @darkwinter6028 2 года назад +8

      Also, there was a slide showing a modern AWACS (spelling ?) with the disc-type radome… that didn’t happen until much later in history.

    • @darkwinter6028
      @darkwinter6028 2 года назад +7

      FWIW, I am quite convinced that there would be no native Japanese to speak of today if it weren’t for the Manhattan Project - the entire nation was prepared to fight to the last man, and the civilians would have committed mass suicide. This is borne out by what happened on the islands that the Japanese held, as they lost them.
      The sheer shock of what an atomic weapon does both broke their “fighting spirit”, and provided a face-saving way to surrender: had they continued, there would have been no fight for them to show their “warrior spirit”, only total destruction delivered in fractions of a second. Even in the face of this, though, several of the top military officers resisted, going so far as to disobey the direct orders from the emperor and sabotaging the public delivery of the surrender announcement.

    • @balancedactguy
      @balancedactguy 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes..and a Huge Mistake was not sending in a Third Attack Wave which left the Power Plants, Fuel Dumps and Dry Docks in tact...all crucial for the recovery effort!!

    • @carlchiles1047
      @carlchiles1047 3 месяца назад +1

      Sunday morning…the sailors were starting to get up..somewhere they were raising the flag..others on shore were thinking of going to the golf course..others were entering the dining hall for Sunday breakfast..and because a squadron of American Bomber airplanes were expected to come in and land that morning..only further confused things..on December 7th..

    • @carlchiles1047
      @carlchiles1047 3 месяца назад

      Did not utter those words, but his diary did…so in his mind, before Pearl Harbor..he feared he would awaken a sleeping giant..based on America’s size and manufacturing capacity…

  • @porflepopnecker4376
    @porflepopnecker4376 2 года назад +26

    My Dad was a Marine at Pearl Harbor during the attack, and later fought in the South Pacific. What he experienced was so horrible that he suffered from intense, terrifying nightmares for the rest of his life. I would suggest watching some actual documentary footage--seeing the event presented as a bouncy, colorful cartoon is just bizarre.

    • @DianeCasanova
      @DianeCasanova 6 месяцев назад

      Sorry about your dad. My uncle fought in France and also suffered extreme PTSD for the rest of his life.

  • @davidray6962
    @davidray6962 2 года назад +85

    I would note the Japanese concept of an attack to prevent further military action was not as stupid as it seems now - their previous military interactions with Western countries, such as the Russo-Japanese War, all were limited engagements with opponents which were objectively more powerful but ended in negotiated settlements (rather than outright victory on the battlefield) in Japan's favor.

    • @wpl8275
      @wpl8275 2 года назад +12

      But Russia is not the US. The US fought a bloody 4 year Civil War. And although the US wasn't primed for war it was a modern manufacturing behemoth. Russia was an antiquated imperial nation that couldn't manufacture anything. Needless to say that Japanese strategists just didn't understand the US at all.

    • @davidray6962
      @davidray6962 2 года назад +27

      @@malcolmdrake6137 I hope you get the help you need.

    • @lawrencewestby9229
      @lawrencewestby9229 2 года назад +7

      That may be true of Imperial Russia at the time of the Russo-Japanese War in 1904 but during WWII the Soviet Union produced over 80,000 T-34 tanks, much to the consternation of the Nazi invaders. I'm not saying that the Soviets had the manufacturing capability of the USA but it was still quite large.

    • @jsat5609
      @jsat5609 2 года назад +1

      Maybe not, but sinking your enemy's fleet in fifty feet of water was stupid.

    • @jsat5609
      @jsat5609 2 года назад

      @Charlton Jones True.

  • @johnsample7391
    @johnsample7391 2 года назад +181

    As part of your "deep dive," you should watch the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora," which was mentioned in the video you watched. Not only does the film do an excellent job of re-enacting the attack in great detail (and without the Hollywoodization). It also goes into the missed opportunities on the American side prior to the attack.

    • @patrickmackin2128
      @patrickmackin2128 2 года назад +9

      I heartily recommend "Tora Tora Tora" too. It takes a good balanced view.

    • @OldtimeIronman
      @OldtimeIronman 2 года назад +8

      Third. Tora tora tora is highly recommended

    • @iceman34
      @iceman34 2 года назад +1

      Quad it has much more of the lead up the morning of. I’m not positive but I think things might have been a bit different had meetings between US and Japan happened that weekend.

    • @jonmiguel
      @jonmiguel 2 года назад +9

      "Tora, Tora, Tora" is especially good because all of the Japanese scenes were actually produced in and by Japanese producers and directed by the famed Akira Kurosawa. This was to give the film a truly balanced interpretation of events.

    • @dogbarbill
      @dogbarbill 2 года назад +3

      @@jonmiguel I agree 100%. I have the DVD and watch it at least twice a year, sometimes more.

  • @nortoro1
    @nortoro1 2 года назад +44

    I had just started talking/dating a girl in college. She came to class one day, sat down next to me and said "guess what I learned today"
    Me: "I have no clue, what did you learn today?"
    Her: "I learned Pearl Harbor was in Hawaii"
    Me: "Where did you think it was?"
    Her: "Vermont"
    My laugh didn't do the relationship well

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +9

      I at least knew that bit 🙉

    • @nortoro1
      @nortoro1 2 года назад +16

      @@DianeJennings the part of her statement that broke mind is that Vermont is a landlocked state

    • @pyroman6000
      @pyroman6000 2 года назад +7

      My Mom told me that my neice- a high school senior- didn't even know that Rhode Island was a State, much less where it is... As a retired H.S. History teacher, this boggled my mother's mind.

    • @elultimo102
      @elultimo102 2 года назад +7

      Millennials: "Pearl Harbor? Who's she?"

    • @LindaC616
      @LindaC616 2 года назад

      @@pyroman6000 tbf, we are tiny......

  • @wesleypeters4112
    @wesleypeters4112 2 года назад +11

    The heroic and selfless actions of Arizona's captain Franklin Van Valkenburgh.
    Captain Franklin Van Valkenburgh shortly after the attack began, ran from his cabin to the navigation bridge and began defending his ship. The quartermaster in the pilot house asked if the captain would like to go to the coning tower (better protection against strafing). He refused and remained at his post. He was last seen manning a telephone. After the fires were extinguished the only personal effects found was his Annapolis class ring.
    Captain Franklin Van Valkenburgh was awarded the Medal of Honor for his selfless actions and disregard for personal safely.

    • @tomswoodwork
      @tomswoodwork 2 года назад

      Also the cook who had no formal weapons training grabbed an anti-aircraft gun and shot down several Japanese planes. I saw that in the movie but didn't know it really happened.

  • @PlugInRides
    @PlugInRides 2 года назад +41

    There is a truism in military history, that countries always make the mistake of trying to fight the previous war, instead of recognizing the current reality. Japan's military strategy had been shaped by its war with Russia, in that it won with a large, decisive battle, that seemed to involve divine providence. In the 1905, Battle of Tsushima, Japan managed such a lopsided victory, that Russia surrendered after losing so much of its Pacific Fleet. This led Japanese naval strategists, and military experts to believe that the key to victory was delivering one, huge crushing blow, in a major battle. They felt if they could sink a sizeable portion of the US Pacific Fleet, especially a few aircraft carriers. the US would sue for peace.
    One major thing the Japanese and the Axis powers ignored, was that the US had unsurpassed industrial capacity, and natural resources, and that these assets were virtually immune from military attacks. There was no way to bomb US factories, or cut supply lines to raw materials. Unlike Russia, the United States would have little trouble replacing any lost ships. The US economy was six times as large as Japan's, and it produced about twelve times the steel and aluminum. During WWII, the British would ask for aircraft parts, and instead, the American sent them new planes.

    • @matthewhudson5685
      @matthewhudson5685 2 года назад +10

      Great Post.
      I would only add that Yamamoto himself predicted that Japan could not win a protracted war with the U.S. As he had been an attache, he saw the naval shipyards and factories, and understood what the U.S. was capable of. The "sleeping giant" quote was probably apocryphal, but it seems likely he held that sentiment in some form.

    • @victorwaddell6530
      @victorwaddell6530 2 года назад +5

      @@matthewhudson5685 There's also the quote about there being a rifle behind every blade of grass should Japan invade the US mainland . I think Diane already made a video about the civilian ownership of pew pews in America .

    • @clinthowe7629
      @clinthowe7629 2 года назад +3

      excellent point! we better take that fact into account as well f we get into it with China, we are not the industrial power we used to be, China is. we should not underestimate their capabilities, or their ability to adapt the change, we confidently assure ourselves that China has two measly aircraft carriers while we have 10, that can change, we assure ourselves how they only have 350 or so nukes, how do we really know? we shouldn’t be afraid, we should be practical, and recognize our own deficiencies.

    • @PlugInRides
      @PlugInRides 2 года назад +6

      @@clinthowe7629 Actually, the US Navy has 19 aircraft carriers, when you include the Wasp and America-class, Amphibious Assault ships, that have similar, if not superior, air combat capabilities, to the 2 operational Chinese carriers.
      Our nuclear Nimitz-class, and Ford-class carriers are in a whole different league, from China's ski-jump carriers. The US has over 90 years of experience with aircraft carrier operations, and extensive combat experience. China's aircraft carriers are mainly PR tools, with very little military value.
      That said, China doesn't need them, and would be unlikely to risk them, in any conflict over Taiwan. 350 nukes is plenty, and Xi Jinping is committed to building an even larger stockpile. China really doesn't have the same submarine nuclear threat capabilities of Russia or the US. China has up to 6 operational SSBN's, each with the ability to launch 12 ballistic nuclear missiles. The US Navy has 14 Ohio-class SSBN's, armed with 24 missiles, and 4 Ohio-class SSGN's, armed with 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles, each.
      Whatever you think about the United States' industrial capacity, we have no shortage of weapons, or the ability to make more. Unlike World War II, when the US Navy had been restricted by treaty, on the number and types of ships it could construct, the only limits since then have been budgetary. The US had to undertake a massive military build-up for WWII, but that is not a realistic problem in the near future.
      Our difficulty in fighting a war with China, will not be lack of equipment, but one of location, basing and logistics.

  • @JeffOfTheMountains
    @JeffOfTheMountains 2 года назад +24

    My wife had a grandfather who was on one of the few boats to escape Pearl Harbor. The St. Louis it was called, and he was only 17 years old.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +7

      Wow that’s amazing!

    • @JeffOfTheMountains
      @JeffOfTheMountains 2 года назад

      @Angry Combat Wombat Well shared! +1 like for the history lesson, too.

    • @mattburgess9439
      @mattburgess9439 3 месяца назад

      Wasn't that a cruiser or light cruiser? Not a boat.

  • @jillleisge2163
    @jillleisge2163 2 года назад +10

    We visited pearl harbor on our visit to Hawaii. It was a very somber atmosphere. Lots of people but everyone was quiet and respectful.

    • @kimsparks5811
      @kimsparks5811 2 года назад +1

      Very somber indeed. My grandfather was shot during the attack and my great-aunt's brother died on the Arizona. It was eerie to actually be there.

  • @OhSnapVince
    @OhSnapVince 2 года назад +18

    If/when you make it back to the US, there is a fantastic WW2 museum in New Orleans that I can’t recommend enough. Learned way more at the museum than I ever did in school and I also got to meet a WW2 veteran & speak with him about his life. A moment I won’t forget.

    • @semperfine4442
      @semperfine4442 2 года назад +3

      There is also an excellent museum of the Pacific war in Fredericksburg, Texas. This is the birthplace and home town of Admiral Chester Nimitz. Worth the trip to a charming town 40 miles outside of Austin. It's also 5 miles from the legendary town of Luckenbach, Texas.

    • @lokithecat7225
      @lokithecat7225 2 года назад

      Hawaii has a Great museum, and you can see some of the Sunk Ships.

    • @michaelwalsh564
      @michaelwalsh564 2 года назад

      Yes, that museum in New Orleans is fantastic, and I regret only having a couple of hours to spend there, because you could literally spend a couple of days. And there are some amazing WWII artifacts at the Museum of American History in Gettysburg, which I have not been too yet, but I've seen some the artifacts featured online.

    • @crazydrummer181
      @crazydrummer181 Год назад

      Man, I only live an hour away from there. I need to schedule a visit soon.

  • @scottski51
    @scottski51 2 года назад +36

    I see your disclaimer about this being serious, which of course, it was. This cutsey video tells a basic story but is really aggravating due to the overly-even-handed treatment of the Japanese military aggression as just a policy decision. The atrocities by the Imperial Forces of Japan (who was NOT a signator of the Geneva Conventions) were monumental and nearly indescribable. Beheadings, mass rape, torture, forced starvation. Their sneak attack on American forces, at rest on a peaceful Sunday morning immediately inflamed the entire U.S. and brought a fractured populace together to fight back! Many sailors were trapped and died horrible deaths inside damaged ships like the sunk battleship, Arizona. Dec. 7th is still recognized in memorial tributes each year over here. The last few surviving service members are quickly passing away, but are celebrated and beloved.

    • @peetky8645
      @peetky8645 2 года назад +1

      the CCP is a modern day atrocity waiting to happen....hope they dont repeat pearl harbor

    • @redrick8900
      @redrick8900 2 года назад

      @@peetky8645 They are doing worse things than Pearl Harbor. They just aren't stupid enough to do them to Americans.

    • @matthewandrews3036
      @matthewandrews3036 2 года назад +1

      Explaining the reasons of why something is done is not a defense or endorsement of it. If you want preaching go your local spiritual leader lol. Governments setting policy get held to different standards than individuals. Nothing new there.

    • @redrick8900
      @redrick8900 2 года назад +1

      @@matthewandrews3036 Nonsense.

    • @kurtkuczynski
      @kurtkuczynski 2 года назад

      @@matthewandrews3036 the "just following orders" defense didn't work for the Nazis and it shouldn't work for the Japanese. Pitted against each other, the Japanese were on par, if not more brutal, than the Nazis as a whole.

  • @Irish381
    @Irish381 2 года назад +7

    My great grandpa was stationed at Oahu, Hawaii from 1943-44 when he arrived at Pearl Harbor and Hickom Army base, the ships were still being salvaged. Previously he was in the Philippines and sent to Australia in February 1942. He was a radio operator.

    • @ronmaximilian6953
      @ronmaximilian6953 2 года назад +3

      Your grandfather was very lucky not to have been captured by the Japanese in the Philippines.

    • @Irish381
      @Irish381 2 года назад +2

      @@ronmaximilian6953 true fact, my great grandpa was aboard a ship that was part of MacArthur’s bug out from the Philippines had the order come twenty minutes later he may have been captured and part of the Bataan death March!

  • @ChefDuJour78
    @ChefDuJour78 2 года назад +5

    My grandfather was in the Navy in WW2. His ship was sunk off coast of Okinawa by a kamikaze attack. Many of the servicemen were in the ocean for several hours. Many of them dyIng from exposure, hypothermia, and shark attacks.

  • @joyc4467
    @joyc4467 2 года назад +27

    Interesting video, Diane. Thanks for posting. I have heard some of the interviews with combatants from recent times where they basically said it was nothing personal. Although they were only carrying out their orders, I know that many of the US servicemen who were in the fight in the Pacific took it very personally. Such a horrible thing - my dad was in the Pacific with the Navy. I’m so proud of his service but my heart breaks that anyone ever has to fight such a conflict. ✌️❤️

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +2

      That’s an amazing connection Joy!

    • @pyroman6000
      @pyroman6000 2 года назад +4

      There's a book out (don't ask me the name, I forgot and do not have it with me...) where the author interviewed as many WWII vets as would talk to him about their experiences. The contrast between those who fought in Europe and Africa- and those who fought the Japanese in the Pacific was pretty stark. The general impression of the Wehrmacht (the regular German Army) Luftwaffe, and Kreigsmarine is as you say: Nothing personal- they were professional soldiers doing their duty, They were just like us- only on the other side. Now the Waffen SS... that's a different story. However, the Japanese Army was an entirely different animal- And the Pacific campaign an entirely different type of war. That was an ugly, awful, brutal bloodbath of a fight. There were a LOT of hard feelings there.
      For their part, The German soldiers felt about the same about us.
      I cannot imagine having to see and experience THAT as a 16-19 year old.

    • @joyc4467
      @joyc4467 2 года назад

      @@pyroman6000 Very true. It was a horrible thing for anyone to live through. My dad lied about his age so he could enlist and fight, partially to choose his branch of service. Fortunately it seems that he didn’t see the worst of the fighting but he would never talk much about it either way. He was 17 when he went in and 19 when it ended.

    • @Jeff_Lichtman
      @Jeff_Lichtman 2 года назад

      @@pyroman6000 Was it The Good War by Studs Terkel?

    • @terryc7142
      @terryc7142 2 года назад +1

      If you think about the "Just following orders" angle, it reveals a profound detachment from the humanity of the enemy. A book called "On K*lling" was written about all those who, in various roles, have taken human lives. One part found that many soldiers, especially conscripts, refused to intentionally k*ll. They would miss their shots on purpose, etc. The military works on the psychology of new recruits for that reason, to prepare them to actually do the deed when the time comes. Mostly, that part of training seems to be built on the instinct to protect those you care about. When you work and train with your unit, you get close to them and will do whatever it takes to defend them. Just as a parent might do for their children. So I wonder what Japan's training was like to get their soldiers to completely dehumanize their enemies to the point that they could commit atrocities like the R*pe of Nankang, or attack the US out of the blue and think that it wasn't personal. Just astonishing.

  • @dennisdickerson4994
    @dennisdickerson4994 2 года назад +27

    I thought this was a pretty accurate historical review. But it's important to remember the kind of absolute evil that the allies fought. Most people are familiar with the holocaust (I hope) but you might want to read a little bit about the Rape of Nanking (China's capital when Japan conquered it) and other Japanese war crimes. Japan's behavior was every bit as reprehensible as Germany's, it just doesn't get mentioned as much.

    • @TheEfvan
      @TheEfvan 2 года назад

      I don't think it is completely understood (?) how the Japanese changed in a generation. I believe they were commended by Geneva for their humanity after the First World War.

    • @44excalibur
      @44excalibur 2 года назад +2

      It wasn't that historically accurate. Did you see the part with "Participants in WWII?" It listed the participants in WWI, the Triple Entente and the Triple Alliance instead of the Axis Powers and the Allies.

  • @ljgaming639
    @ljgaming639 2 года назад +7

    My son’s (one in the middle of my avatar) great grandfather was on two ships that were sunk in WW2. He was in the medical bay on the USS Nevada with appendicitis when the Pearl Harbor attack happened, jumped with other sailors into the bay and swam to safety. He was later on the USS Lexington when it was sunk in the Coral Sea. He survived, became a sheriff’s officer in McLennan County, Texas and died several years ago at 98. They do not make men like that anymore.

  • @garygough6905
    @garygough6905 2 года назад +17

    If you want hugely researched detail , the Time Ghost Army did a real time reenactment of the Pearl harbor attack as part of their real time series on WW2 ( up to 1943 at this point)

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 2 года назад +3

      The Pearl Harbor in Real Time: ruclips.net/video/Joh2BXPsrXs/видео.html

    • @johnrust592
      @johnrust592 2 года назад +1

      I second that recommendation. Pearl Harbor Minute by Minute was awesome!

  • @MichaelScheele
    @MichaelScheele 2 года назад +11

    "Tora! Tora! Tora!" is a far superior movie about the attack on Pearl Harbor. It had input from Americans and Japanese.
    The Michael Bay movie, "Pearl Harbor," had better SFX, but added an unnecessary love story and the odd addition of the Doolittle Raid.

    • @STho205
      @STho205 2 года назад

      Just the attack is a good movie. The rest of it is trying to remake five famous WWII Pacific Theater movies from 60 years ago. All had fictional romances.
      The attack and the two pilots racing down the highway being strafed and getting into the air...that's real.
      The Doolittle Raid epilogue might have been trying to do the feeling of the whole war, it's the feels. Defeat to victory, though the raid was really a morale victory only, it was desperate and daring.
      Odd that the two fighter pilots got a transfer to the bomber wing.
      Bay really makes pretty bad movie plots.
      However Tora, Tora, Tora and the 1970s Midway were pretty dry as movies go.

  • @j.s.matlock1456
    @j.s.matlock1456 2 года назад +7

    The Japanese invasion of Guam was also mentioned in the video. My great great Uncle Chester, an American who made his home on the island of Guam was taken prisoner by the Japanese and sent to a POW camp in Japan. His wife, Aunt Ignacia, was interrogated and tortured by the Japanese. Their oldest son, James, was forced to learn Japanese to act as an interpreter. Fortunately, Uncle Chester had seen war coming and sent his unmarried daughters to California to live with their married sister and transferred his money to a California bank. Uncle Chester had the first Coca Cola franchise outside of the United States and the Japanese tried to force Aunt Ignacia to make Coca Cola for them. She told them she didn't have any syrup when there was actually plenty hidden in the warehouse.

  • @studer25k
    @studer25k 2 года назад +7

    Still remember my grandfathers stories of joining the army after Pearl Harbor. He went on to fight in Sicily and North Africa.

  • @michaeldoherty5423
    @michaeldoherty5423 2 года назад +7

    My father felt that the attack on Pearl Harbor having had such an impact on his family’s life would take his sons, me (9) and my brother (6), to see “Tora! Tora! Tora!” a 2hrs.+ film. We sat there riveted while our father explained how his oldest brother (Uncle John) came out of the experience physically unharmed but mentally damaged.

  • @ChuckKelleher
    @ChuckKelleher 2 года назад +14

    The surprise attack on Pearl Harbor failed to knock the US Navy out of the war for many reasons, the first of which is our aircraft carriers were not in port. Because of this the first major defeat of the Japanese Navy occurred at the Battle of Midway in June 1942. The US sank four Japanese aircraft carriers and demonstrated the aircraft carrier, not the battleships like in WWI, would be the deciding factor in WWII. Enjoyed the video, look forward to more on this subject.

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 2 года назад

      "Battle of Midway in April 1942."?: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway The Battle of the Coral Sea was in May 1942. April 1942 was when the Doolittle Raid took place. Please check your dates via Wikipedia before posting such "Dark Skies" data.

  • @raydurz
    @raydurz 2 года назад +7

    I've been to the USS Arizona memorial. You could still see oil floating to the surface of the water from the ship 80 years later

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +1

      Wow that’s wild!

    • @wildbillnj1975
      @wildbillnj1975 2 года назад +4

      The sight of the ghostly hull just beneath the surface is haunting.
      The oil slick is a reminder that it isn't just a sunken ship - it's the tomb of over 900 sailors who went down with her and whose remains were never recovered.

  • @anthonyanderson4980
    @anthonyanderson4980 2 года назад +5

    Just what I needed, I was dreaming about a nap and here's Diane getting me through the rest of the work day.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +2

      Not the most cheery but an interesting video

  • @DarkkMatter
    @DarkkMatter 2 года назад +3

    I have watched a lot of your videos. This is the one that earned my sub. I am a retired combat medic and I was stationed in Hawaii. What happened at Pearl Harbor and the battles after were a huge event in American history. We were so close to losing. Things would have been a lot different if we had lost

  • @kennethfharkin
    @kennethfharkin 2 года назад +59

    “Always the stupid leaders…”
    You undoubtedly have strong feelings regarding the Nazis, you really need to look at how the basic Japanese serviceman was trained to treat all non-Japanese and even more importantly how they overwhelmingly did.

    • @Caseytify
      @Caseytify 2 года назад +11

      One needs also to understand Japanese culture & society. Samurai are very popular today, but Bushido preached literal death before dishonor, so anyone who surrendered was beneath contempt. That's one reason so many Japanese sailors & soldiers acted the way they did. It wasn't 100%; there were many men like Yamamoto in the ranks.
      Besides China & the Rape of Nanking, Koreans still view Japan with hostility. Among other bad habits they forced thousands of female Koreans into sexual slavery.

    • @saintcynicism2654
      @saintcynicism2654 2 года назад +8

      @@Caseytify And then there were the gruesome experiments on Chinese civilians carried out by Unit 731...
      To some extent I do feel some level of pity toward the Japanese soldiers, if only because they underwent a similar style of brainwashing that German youth did in Germany (potentially even starting in earnest several years before it really kicked off in Germany, resulting in far more 'true believers' winding up in the ranks in time for war, but I'd need to double-check the timelines). It was just much more effective, thanks in part to the ultra-right-wing nationalists in charge at the time essentially "tweaking" the basic tenets of Bushido in order to better support what they wanted people to believe. Bushido had somewhat fallen by the wayside in the years prior to Japan's militarization for World War II, but for a country with such a strong emphasis on its history and traditions, you can imagine how effective it was when it was abused. It doesn't excuse the atrocities, but it does make me loathe the people in charge that much more. One can only wonder if the war in the Pacific theater might not have been quite so horrific if they didn't have an entire generation of soldiers raised and conditioned to behave like butchers.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin 2 года назад +9

      History Buffs in his review of the recent film Midway does an excellent job of addressing how the end of the film mentions it being a memorial of sorts to those on both sides who fought at Midway... Sorry but no. F' the Japanese of WWII. ruclips.net/video/uZGGn2ZfGZo/видео.html This went beyond the "Bushido culture" which in truth applied to the Samurai class that had only been about 10% of the population. This was the clear indoctrination of almost the entirety of Imperial Japan into a cult which made the Nazis look like school kids. Japan, being a homogeneous society, had no Jews internally to victimize. They looked at all other people as sub-human and below contempt. Screw WWII Japan. Thankfully that is NOT the society present there now although it is still one of the most insulated in the world despite being modern. The culture though no longer has the brutality it previously did.
      If you want to see an excellent Pearl Harbor film watch the recent film Midway.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin 2 года назад +5

      @@Caseytify My father had a good friend who was Malaysian and grew up under Japanese occupation. He had rather strong opinions on the Japanese...

    • @saintcynicism2654
      @saintcynicism2654 2 года назад +1

      @@kennethfharkin I've seen both, and that's my point. Bushido had been largely forgotten since the time of the samurai (and wasn't strictly adhered to even then, despite the popular misconceptions). It was brought back and bastardized by the ultra-nationalists in power and adapted to hel cultivate the sort of fanatical devotion to the Emperor and the belief that they were superior beings that the Japanese soldiers became known for.
      It may not have worked on *everyone*, but those few who weren't suckered in quickly realized that they should shut the hell up and keep it to themselves for their own good. Because as brutal as the Japanese were toward everyone else, you can imagine how they'd have dealt with perceived disloyalty.

  • @racinnut77
    @racinnut77 2 года назад +52

    Correction to the video, the Germans declared war on us on Dec. 11. The battleships sunk or damaged were outdated. They were all too slow to participate in any fleet actions involving the much faster carriers. We already had ten new, fast battleships in various stages of construction in the yards to replace them. In a war that was all about industrial production, Japan had no chance to win. As for the "we knew it was coming" theory, Japan formally declared war on us and attacked US held possessions in the Philippines the same day. We would have been at war with Japan with or without Pearl Harbor so the theory is bunk.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin 2 года назад +15

      Largely but not entirely correct. The carriers not being at Pearl was a major stroke of luck. Likewise the Japanese not hitting the enormous fuel storage facility at Pearl which would have left the fleet entirely dependent on the fuel way back in San Diego. Not everyone considered battleships obsolete at the time as it was only this war which changed that. The US was in very very bad shape in the Pacific until the stunning upset victory at Midway.
      The video has numerous problems as you noted. He even screwed up the name of one of the atomic bombs…

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 2 года назад +2

      The US might have let Japan take over those those places to avoid War. During that time many US voters and Congressional Representatives where very Anti-War not wanting to be drawn into a new World War.

    • @racinnut77
      @racinnut77 2 года назад +5

      @@morrigankasa570 It's hard to not go to war against a country that formally declares war on you and attacks your assets. Even one accepts that we'd just let the Japanese take the Philippines with no resistance at all from us, at some point the Japanese, in their declared state of war, would have attacked something we would have fought for.

    • @racinnut77
      @racinnut77 2 года назад

      @@kennethfharkin I agree, the Japanese hit the wrong targets at Pearl Harbor. They should have hit the fuel and repair facilities. However, even if some didn't realize the battleships at Ford Island were obsolete, that would have been very quickly realized once they put the sea to try to accomplish anything. Being slow as they were they couldn't sail with carriers. They would have been sitting ducks for the Japanese air power like Prince of Wales and Repulse.

    • @Dularr
      @Dularr 2 года назад +7

      Hard to say. The attack on Peral Harbor was seen as a precursor to mainland invasion by the American public.

  • @pastorbrianediger
    @pastorbrianediger 2 года назад +9

    Fighting is always my absolute last resort. I never trow the first punch, but I will throw the last. As we've seen in other videos, the US is a beehive that you don't want to mess with.

  • @williamevans5782
    @williamevans5782 2 года назад +6

    Happened on a Sunday morning at 0630 local time, most folks unprepared (not an excuse just a fact). Also, the "ultimatum/declaration of war" was still being typed out by the Japanese emabssy staff in DC until well after the attack occurred. Elements of the attack were exceptionally effective - including the attacks on the Phillippines that happened the same day. However, insufficient assets were destroyed (no aircraft carriers, for example, as well as the fuel storage depot at Pearl Harbor), and the US ramped up and just steam-rolled over the IJN (albeit in 4 years with losts of horrific fighting). The fringe theory mentioned was brought up in my High School classes - and pretty much refuted by my classmates. There may have been warnings put out that got tied up in communication loops, but advanced knowledge including dates, times, and locations, as well as forces involved cannot be corraborated.
    (Yep, got long winded again.)

  • @almostfm
    @almostfm 2 года назад +9

    Before Pearl Harbor, the US was, at best, a second-rate military power. Most estimates put the US in 1939/early 1940, as 17th in terms of military power, behind Romania and Bulgaria. By D-Day, we'd produced so many ships that they could have lined them up bow to stern and troops could have practically _walked_ to France on the decks.
    And basically, every able-bodied man of the right age was drafted, which is why so many women went to work doing what had always been "a man's job" or helping out in other ways. My uncle was a bomber pilot in Europe, and several people on the street where I live served-including one of my HS teachers, who'd retired from the Navy as a Rear Admiral and then taught for 30 years.

    • @apex_blue
      @apex_blue 2 года назад +3

      In navy no, in army and air power yes

  • @mudcatjones9366
    @mudcatjones9366 2 года назад +4

    If you're interested in other Pearl Harbor movies, you should check out 'From Here To Eternity' and 'Tora! Tora! Tora!'.

  • @merlin419
    @merlin419 2 года назад +4

    just as a side note, Captain Franklin Van Valkenburg was the commanding officer of the U.S.S. Arizona and died in that battle, he was my cousin.

    • @LoveOldMusic808
      @LoveOldMusic808 2 года назад

      The first street you pass coming out of the main entrance to Joint Base Pearl Harbor - Hickam heading east is Valkenburg St.

  • @jeanine6328
    @jeanine6328 2 года назад +1

    Always love your reactions. Especially when you’re learning something new or new details, like this one. Thanks for doing what you do. May your views and likes always be equal.

  • @paulobrien9572
    @paulobrien9572 2 года назад +10

    What was not mentioned was that however tragic Pearl Harbor was for the Americans we were actually lucky in that Yamamoto's real prize was to be the sinking of the US carrier fleet which was the most potent threat to the Japanese but fortunately for us the carrier fleet put to sea a few days before the attack allowing the US to harass and delay Japanese plans until our industrial advantage could eventually overwhelm the Japanese

    • @saintcynicism2654
      @saintcynicism2654 2 года назад +1

      We were also lucky the attack was such a spectacular failure. The battleships were the lowest priority target present for the dive bombers of the second wave--they were only meant to sink ONE, and solely for propaganda purposes. After the carriers, the next highest priority targets were the cruisers...which were largely ignored. Of the 78 dive bombers, only 17 even attempted to hit the cruisers present. The rest went after battleships--their lowest priority targets--or destroyers and auxiliary ships (which weren't a target at all). A significant number of them even got glory hungry and chased after the USS Nevada as she was trying to leave the harbor, well after other battleships present had been sunk. Meaning that precisely NONE of the dive bombers should have been going for battleships, and instead several hyper-focused on one specific ship that belonged to their lowest priority target class.
      Montemayor did a fantastic video breaking down the entire attack that I can't recommend enough. It's also incredibly well animated to coincide with the images taken during the attack, letting you really get a picture of what happened and when.
      ruclips.net/video/f6cz9gtMTeI/видео.html&ab_channel=Montemayor

    • @bobmorgan1575
      @bobmorgan1575 Год назад

      @@saintcynicism2654 An even bigger piece of luck was Nagumo failing to launch a third strike to take out the oil storage and drydock facilities. That would have forced the pacific fleet to redeploy back to San Diego adding 2500 miles to the trip into battle until those facilities could be repaired.

  • @CrippledMerc
    @CrippledMerc 2 года назад +2

    The youngest American soldier to fight in WW2 actually enlisted in the Navy when he was only 12 years old. Like countless others, he joined because of the attack on Pearl Harbor, and also like many others, he was willing to lie about his age to do it. He earned a Purple Heart and a few other medals before his 13th birthday. His Wikipedia entry is a pretty quick read and it’s quite remarkable. For anyone who is interested, his name is Calvin Graham.

  • @derekbroestler7687
    @derekbroestler7687 2 года назад +3

    One of the wisest things I ever heard from an old soldier was "I never hated anyone I pointed a gun at... I was doing my job, they were doing theirs's. If we'd been on the same side, we probably would have been friends."

    • @nataliestclair6176
      @nataliestclair6176 5 месяцев назад +1

      Darrel Shifty Powers, 101st Airborne, 506th Easy Company, he said that in the documentary about Easy Company and they added it to the Band of Brothers TV series.
      But he never said "I never hated anyone I pointed my rifle at." He said they were doing their job and I was doing mine. Who knows, under different circumstances we might have been good friends."
      No ask thay same question to the Americans who fought against the Japanese, especially the US Marines and the American POWs the Japanese held prisoner and you will get a complete different answer.
      Coming from a Japanese American, the mojority of the Japanese soldier in WW2, even the common private was very cruel and merciless to their enemy even after captured or even dead. They often mutilated the corpses of their enemy.
      Ask the Chinese how they felt about the Japanese soldiers, especially the ones who survived Naking.

    • @mattburgess9439
      @mattburgess9439 3 месяца назад +1

      On my first trip to Okinawa, I commented how my grandfather had fought there to a friend of mine. When he said that his did also, I replied that I didn't think we were sending Japanes to the Pacific that late in the war. He replied " we weren't, but the Japanese were. We later got them together and they became friends until they passed.

  • @aveemarie268
    @aveemarie268 Год назад +1

    We were honored to be able to visit the memorial, and it is completely sureal. If you ever get the chance it is so worth going.💕

  • @electronics-girl
    @electronics-girl 2 года назад +3

    My great uncle was on one of the ships that was sunk in Pearl Harbor. He swam ashore and survived. He had nearly finished his service in the Navy, and was going to become a professional golfer. However, after the attack on Pearl Harbor, they pulled him back into the Navy for the duration of the war. His golf clubs, in his locker on the ship, went to the bottom of the harbor. The US Government issued him a check for $5 to compensate him for the golf clubs, but a good set of golf clubs was worth a lot more than that, even back then. He was so mad, and he never cashed the check.
    The video you watched doesn't seem to pay a lot of attention to detail. The US president depicted in the video doesn't even have the slightest resemblance to Franklin Roosevelt, which is weird. And the most glaring error in the video is that the bombs dropped on Japan were "Little Boy" and "Fat MAN", not "Little Boy" and "Fat Boy"!

  • @illiniwood
    @illiniwood 2 года назад +1

    My grandfather was in Pearl Harbor during the attack. He was with a group of sailors trying to cut the hulls open with torches to get the men out before the water completely filled the ships. During the war his duty was engine room.

  • @sledgehammerk35
    @sledgehammerk35 2 года назад +8

    I always find this stuff so interesting. If you want to see something more in depth, I’d highly recommend watching montemayor’s video on Pearl Harbor. He’s also got some really good ones on the battle of the Coral Sea and Midway as well.

  • @jimpemberton
    @jimpemberton 2 года назад +1

    My grandfather was stationed in Pearl Harbor at the time of the attack. He was the engineering chief on the USS William Ward Burrows, which was out of port on a supply run at the time of the attack. My grandmother deserves an award. My father hadn't been born yet, but my aunt was a baby and my grandmother wrote her account of the attack. She fled strafing fire with my aunt at the base housing where they lived and they were evacuated by the Marines to a safe space at a nearby gymnasium. She lived there with other military wives and children for a few weeks not knowing anything about my grandfather. One day someone came in and announced that the Burrows had come back to port. My grandmother was allowed to leave at that time and she met my grandfather as he came down the street toward her temporary quarters. The ship was put in dry dock for repairs giving a little time for him to take care of the family.

  • @jasonnunez6411
    @jasonnunez6411 2 года назад +5

    Have you reacted to Full House and America Funniest videos with Bob Saget. He’s considered America’s dad because of his role on full house.people also loved him hosting AFV since he was the original host.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +4

      No I’ve not seen either of those. Good idea!

    • @oksully5138
      @oksully5138 2 года назад +3

      RIP BOB SAGET HE PASSED AWAY YESTERDAY

  • @spiked200
    @spiked200 2 года назад +2

    Glad you didn't leave this in the vault. It was fascinating.

  • @tonys1636
    @tonys1636 2 года назад +4

    I think that the Japanese chose a Sunday for the attack on Pearl Harbour as even in time of war it is a more relaxed day with more personnel off duty. At 07:48 a lot of personnel would have been in church or a base chapel.

  • @azknightwolf2552
    @azknightwolf2552 2 года назад +2

    Back in High School, we had a substitute teacher who only talked about his experience at Pearl Harbor that day. No matter what class it was, we learned about the Attack. Best teacher ever.

  • @chipparmley
    @chipparmley 2 года назад +8

    As always a very entertaining look at a historical event. In my high school, I think I knew more about WWII than my teacher did; who was also just reading from a book.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +4

      I wish they would go into another profession if they don’t enjoy teaching

    • @elultimo102
      @elultimo102 2 года назад +2

      I remember a school chum saying: "Today is 20 years since Pearl Harbor." Most everyone's dad was in the war, and it was the topic of discussion until the bell rang. (Not a word was mentioned about it by the teacher, since history officially ended in 1865, with the assassination of Abe Lincoln).

    • @chipparmley
      @chipparmley 2 года назад +1

      @@elultimo102 Most all of my history teachers barely covered any war stuff, and when they did just glossed over it.

  • @TheEfvan
    @TheEfvan 2 года назад +4

    You touched the military history geek in me. Also, my dad was a WWII Pacific theater veteran. He saw Nagasaki nuked from his POW camp.

  • @anthonyscott9063
    @anthonyscott9063 2 года назад +3

    Diane, thanks for recognizing this! You're educating, as well as entertaining. If you were my teacher I'd flirt with ya! 🤣

  • @glueball214
    @glueball214 2 года назад +4

    Been looking forward to Diane's vid all day.
    did not disappoint 💙

  • @bradvitale9589
    @bradvitale9589 2 года назад +6

    Nice. I didn't know a few things in there either. Battle of Midway was way more fascinating to me since both sides were fully engaged and at their peak strength. Maybe see if they got one on that? Good stuff

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +4

      We Learn together!

    • @tomhannah4158
      @tomhannah4158 2 года назад +2

      They're not a good source. I saw too many mistakes in that short video.

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 2 года назад +1

      @@tomhannah4158 For instance, the Montana class battleships were never built in favor of additional carriers and cruisers.

    • @donovanfoto3263
      @donovanfoto3263 2 года назад +1

      Battle of Midway was the first naval battle in history where the two fleets never saw each other
      It was the first naval battle fought entirely with planes. And it never would have been fought if the Japanese Admiral hadn't cheated in simulations, before hand, showing a huge Japanese advantage which didn't really exist.

    • @DouglasMoran
      @DouglasMoran 2 года назад +1

      Neither side was at peak strength. A month earlier in the Battle of the Coral Sea, the US lost one fleet carrier -- Lexington -- and Japan had two fleet carriers -- Shokaku and Zuikaku -- damaged enough to not be at Midway.

  • @AwlDeigh
    @AwlDeigh 2 года назад +3

    My Dad was aPearl Harbor survivor. Took him many year to tell us about it. Thanks for commenting about it

  • @wjr10110
    @wjr10110 2 года назад +8

    Nicely done, Diane! I can certainly understand your hesitation to broach the subject, but this video did a nice job reacting to a very difficult subject in my opinion.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +2

      Thanks Walter

    • @clevelandmaker386
      @clevelandmaker386 2 года назад

      @@DianeJennings and your teacher will be punished in the New Editor Diane Order.......
      IM THINKING TIED TO A POST IN THE MIDDLE OF GLENDALOUGH AND HISTORY BOOK PELTED

  • @jamescriag671
    @jamescriag671 2 года назад +1

    We studied this in college history classes. We learned that there was a dispatch sitting on the commodore’s desk at Pearl Harbor on the morning of the attack. It was warning of a possible attack. The pathos of the moment was that the Commodore had not been to his office to read it yet. We also learned than many were still aboard the USS Arizona in that they had won the privilege to sleep in, having done well in a ship-to-ship musical contest. The musicians of the Arizona were said to be the best in the pacific fleet. Interestingly, I’m reading “All The Gallant Men” right now. Written by one of the survivors aboard the USS Arizona.

  • @Reubinv
    @Reubinv 2 года назад +3

    Great video! Very respectful and educational

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +1

      Just for you… and your pals 👯‍♂️

  • @DougMcDave
    @DougMcDave 2 года назад +1

    My maternal grandfather, God rest his soul, inevitably saw terrible things during his conscription as a U.S. Marine when he was sent to the Asian-Pacific theater. He died in 1980, so I will never know exactly what happened. But my mother referred to his recollection of talking to a buddy next to him one second, and the very next seeing his head blown off! God bless those like him who had to bear such a heavy burden for his country!

  • @kurtischopty4925
    @kurtischopty4925 2 года назад +7

    I love that you branch out and cover topics that perhaps are a little out of your comfort zone. Very good work.
    Being somewhat old fashioned, I prefer the older film, slower-paced Tora! Tora! Tora! rather than the newer Pearl Harbor film about the raid.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +1

      Seems to be popular here in comments

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 2 года назад

      @@DianeJennings It was a joint production with a company in Japan, who did all the Japanese scenes.

  • @roddmatsui3554
    @roddmatsui3554 2 года назад +3

    My mother and father, both very young, were living in Hawaii when the attack occurred, and were lucky to be pretty far away from the destruction; and I believe my father joined the US Army a few years after, but claimed he was lucky not to get sent anywhere to fight, as he wasn’t keen on the idea. Anyway, Mom and Dad met over there, and after some years, married and moved to the big continental US, Los Angeles to be exact.

  • @wabash9000
    @wabash9000 2 года назад +28

    My grandfather was in the US Corps of Engineers that was sent over to help rebuild Japan after the war was over, but there was still some fringe fighters in small pockets of the nation that didn't know or didn't believe the war was over and continued to fight the US. He had some pretty bad PTSD from what happened and only ever talked about it with my brother and me once in 18 years. We were never allowed to fight with each other around him for fear of triggering his PTSD.
    I saw some theories that Japan's generals entered into war with the US knowing they wouldn't win because they knew the US would help them rebuild and modernize after the war and it was the only way they saw to move on from their traditional society. Not sure how valid that is, but that's what I've heard.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +7

      It’s amazing how many people in the comments have some kind of actual tangible connection to this. So interesting!

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 2 года назад +8

      _"I saw some theories that Japan's generals entered into war with the US knowing they wouldn't win because they knew the US would help them rebuild and modernize after the war and it was the only way they saw to move on from their traditional society."_
      I'm sorry, but that is beyond ridiculous. Unless they had a time machine, the Japanese would have had no way at all to predict that the US would rebuild their country. We had not done that before.
      Further, the Meiji Restoration, which kicked off Japan's modernization, had only been 70 years before. They didn't need to rebuild so soon.

    • @wabash9000
      @wabash9000 2 года назад +2

      @@michaelsommers2356 I didn't say it was a good theory, just something I had heard based on pre-war infrastructure vs post-war.

    • @ashleydixon4613
      @ashleydixon4613 2 года назад +4

      @@DianeJennings so many Americans, myself included have relatives who fought in WWII, particularly the Pacific. My maternal grandfather was in his 30s and in the Marine Reserve when the US entered the war. Incidentally my mother was born two days after Pearl Harbor was bombed. I have a feeling the anxiety my grandmother felt, especially knowing her husband would be getting the call soon, had something to do with her going into labor when she did.
      After training in San Diego, he was sent to the South Pacific. Unfortunately he died young at age 49 of a heart attack, but mom said he never talked to/in front of her about the war, he would just sing old Marine hymns to her, and even though he was a sharpshooter, he did not ever have a gun in the house. (And in the South, no less! Lol) Mom said that for quite a while after he got back, he also had to sleep in a separate bed to keep from accidentally injuring my grandmother during night terrors.
      He obviously saw some really rough stuff. In fact, we have a photo here at the house that he took somewhere in the Philippines, I believe. It’s hard to tell what is going on in the old black-and-white photo: it’s an outdoor public place, in a crowd, but in the middle of all these people there is a woman kneeling, and you can see part of a man standing by her. The picture was (secretly) taken right before the woman was publicly executed. 😳

    • @ljgaming639
      @ljgaming639 2 года назад

      Not sure where you live, but the Pacific WW2 museum is in Fredericksburg, Texas (home of Chester Nimitz). It is phenomenal. They put a lot of work into gathering all of the exhibits, etc. Truly special.

  • @Armando_Brown32
    @Armando_Brown32 2 года назад +3

    Comment for the algorithm! Btw, would a video where ED reply’s to those in the FHC ever be in the cards?

  • @LunDruid
    @LunDruid 2 года назад +14

    I kinda feel the need to point out that, in the few times I've watched their channel, I've found Infographics to be lacking pretty strongly in details and accuracy, and would more or less classify them as a pop source. They're not necessarily a "bad" source, they could serve as a brief if flawed introduction to various topics, but they should be taken with a pretty good grain of salt. If you find yourself interested in a topic they cover, I encourage you to do further research.
    I'm not really an expert in the Pearl Harbor attack, so I can't really speak to how well this particular video represented it, however.

    • @tomhannah4158
      @tomhannah4158 2 года назад +2

      You're right, they're bad. .. Look elsewhere.

    • @DianeJennings
      @DianeJennings  2 года назад +1

      I think like you said they are a good overview and present a broad idea in an entertaining way

    • @DouglasMoran
      @DouglasMoran 2 года назад +2

      @@DianeJennings Another example of their video's incomprehensible lack of attention to detail: Their graphic for a single-engine Japanese naval aircraft was a 4-engine land-based US B-24 bomber (very distinctive profile). Their graphic for the plane that dropped the atomic bombs -- the B-29 -- was a US P-38 fighter plane, each with its own very distinctive profiles.

    • @LunDruid
      @LunDruid 2 года назад +3

      @@DianeJennings I don't know if I'd call them a "good" overview, to be honest. Just from the stuff I've seen them get wrong from their other videos, and the fact that they do not cite their sources (which is a *major* red flag), I think I might have actually been too generous with my earlier comment. I worry their lack of care is causing them to spread misinformation. If they can't even get the planes right, what other, potentially even more dangerous, falsehoods might they inadvertently be spreading or reinforcing? I don't watch their show so maybe it's not quite to that degree, I don't know.
      But here, I don't wanna leave you with this sentiment, especially since you really do seem to want to learn more, so I'll share with you something related that's (I hope) wholesome and heartwarming. Many years ago, I saw a video of some modern Japanese students visiting Pearl Harbor with flowers, paying respects for what happened. Now, I don't really think of myself as a patriot, but I still felt very moved. To the point that it's been officially on my personal bucket list to visit Hiroshima with 1000 cranes to pay my own respects.

    • @misake
      @misake 2 года назад

      I agree, I never watched the channel, but to me it is very Americanized view. (Canadian here) I don't know much of it, but what I do know is that Japan only targeted a military target while the US killed many civilians and claimed to win the war. Where they hadn't been in war for a long time unlike all the other Countries. The war was pretty much over when they entered into it.

  • @davidyoung9443
    @davidyoung9443 2 года назад +1

    My Grandfather was at Pearl Harbor in the Navy during the bombing. He was on the USS Phoenix. His ship escaped. Later when I was alive he would go to Hawaii every year with the survivors as a reunion. I couldn't imagine what he witnessed. I joined the navy when I was in my 20's and visited Pearl Harbor. It is a very big deal pulling into Pearl and will remember it forever.

  • @The_Dudester
    @The_Dudester 2 года назад +5

    The whole world watches videos today, but the best detailed examination of the Pearl Harbor attack is the book "At Dawn We Slept." It's 928 pages, so, it's a hard slog (as the British say), but it is very much worth it if you really want to know history.

    • @johnsimpson5406
      @johnsimpson5406 2 года назад

      Yes Pope Anthony, you are correct, the book 📖 "At Dawn We Slept", is an excellent piece of literature for the events leading up to and including the attack on Pearl Harbor.
      I have read the book several times and to this day it provides lessons to be learned for the morons of the younger generations, if only they had the intelligence and intellectual skills to ponder them, which they don't.
      This "Diane" woman is a prime example of the stupidity that exists in the world today, and I am sure that she couldn't get through that book even with Russian tanks and Sukoi fighters giving her an incentive while chasing her through her holiday home in Spain 🇪🇸 or even her supposed birthplace in Ireland 🇮🇪, after they are done raping the Ukraine.
      What a frigging moron dilettante she is!!!

  • @markdoherty3718
    @markdoherty3718 2 года назад +2

    Great job Diane!

  • @shawnjohnson9763
    @shawnjohnson9763 2 года назад +7

    One inaccuracy is that the US didn't declare war on Germany and Italy, they declared war on the US.

    • @thatnorwegianguy1986
      @thatnorwegianguy1986 2 года назад

      Yep also kind of disproves the America joined the war to save you argument nope you were declared war upon and were dragged into the war.

    • @shawnjohnson9763
      @shawnjohnson9763 2 года назад +2

      @@thatnorwegianguy1986 yeah, joining the war to save the rest of the world wasn't why we got in the war. But, we did end up saving everyone.

    • @thatnorwegianguy1986
      @thatnorwegianguy1986 2 года назад

      @@shawnjohnson9763 Britain and America lost almost the same ammount of troops.
      It was the Russians who broke the German Army.
      They marched into Berlin and ended the war.

    • @shawnjohnson9763
      @shawnjohnson9763 2 года назад

      @@thatnorwegianguy1986 while the Russians inflicted the most casualties on the Germans, they also suffered the most casualties in the war and would have lost without Western military and logistical support. Also, the US was fighting a two front war.

    • @redrick8900
      @redrick8900 2 года назад

      @@thatnorwegianguy1986 Nobody ever won a war by having more of their people die. Russians didn't do crap in WWII.

  • @hankhouke
    @hankhouke Год назад +1

    My parents went to Hawaii for their honeymoon, they loved it, dad got a job, and they stayed. My mother was 7 or 8 months pregnant when Dec. 7th came and she was unable to get under the bed, so she got in the bathtub, they shot her refrigerator twice. Sounds trivial, but that fridge was very rare in Hawaii, and held baby milk and perishables for everybody on her block. She nursed strangers babies all the way back to the states, on the evacuation ship. I held a grudge in my youth, because instead of growing up on Waikiki beach, I wound up in Alabama. (your favorite expletive here.)

  • @ronheath5724
    @ronheath5724 2 года назад +3

    As was mentioned in the film and several people on here comments the movie Tora Tora Tora is probably one of the best depictions of what happened leading up to and including the day after December 7th 1941 the movie is actually told by officials from the Japanese side and officials from the United States side so it's really really a good movie to watch just yet some popcorn and a 2 l of pop because it's quite long and go for it now I was living in Hawaii during the filming of the movie Tora Tora Tora and was actually sitting on the shoreline of Pearl harbor when the aerial attacks were being filmed it was quite weird I went to high school my first two years in Hawaii and of course we were taught you know a lot about world war II in the Pacific not so much about world war II in Europe

  • @paulk.6969
    @paulk.6969 2 года назад +1

    My Grandfather was the Chief Of surgery at the Naval hospital at Pearl Harbor when the Japanese attacked on Dec.7th.On his way to the hospital that morning, after told to report immediately ( Sunday was his day off.), he noticed all the green tree leaves flying off the trees and realized he was driving right Thru the gunfire from the Japanese planes while trying to get to the hospital. Fortunately, he wasn’t hit, and then managed to get inside the hospital and have the worst day of his life. They were literally working on injured patients in the middle of a battle zone with bombs going off all around them. At one point a bomb went off near enough to them to blow out all the windows of the room they were operating in , causing them to be showered with a sea of flying glass shards everywhere ( there were some injuries to them, but not enough to stop them from treating the injured.). Also, at that point , they lost all power, including emergency backup power and had to operate in the dark with flashlights!!. Despite all this disaster surrounding them, they were able to save quite a few sailors and officers. However, because there were so many more that were injured so severely that they couldn’t be saved , and that the staff just couldn’t get to because of the sheer number of patients, or lack of needed surgical supplies and equipment, all they could do for these poor souls was to give them strong doses of morphine to ease their pain as much as possible before they died. How terribly terribly horrible!!! I made this comment to give those persons watching this video and who are vaguely, or not even familiar with Pearl Harbor at all , to give them a small glimpse of what happened on that dreadful day and the truly terrible horror that war brings. Thank you for sharing this educational video, because to avoid repeating history, we must first learn from it. Your usual great job.😎👍👍👍

  • @bdwon
    @bdwon 2 года назад +8

    Your thoughts are-as they so often are-insightful and humane. Thank you for sharing them with us. BTW, do you call it the "Attack on Pearl Harbor" or the "Battle of Pearl Harbor"? People in the U.S. usually call it an "attack." Brits often call it a "Battle." I first learned this when I saw the "Monty Python" recreation of "The Battle on Pearl Harbor." Brits often like to guilt-trip the U.S. about the nuclear bombings.

    • @cycleboy8028
      @cycleboy8028 2 года назад +1

      Someone has to go "too far" first before everyone can look at it and decide it was a step "too far".

    • @redrick8900
      @redrick8900 2 года назад

      Only a fool would feel guilty about that. It was the most humanitarian act ever committed as part of a war. It saved over a million people and ended the worst war in history.

    • @redrick8900
      @redrick8900 2 года назад

      @@cycleboy8028 That step was perfect.

  • @davidwillford3119
    @davidwillford3119 2 года назад +2

    It's a very simplified telling of the Pearl Harbor story, but it hits the main points satisfactorily. The military historian in me has quibbles with some of the animation, though. They show the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor with 4-engine bombers that appear to be modelled on the US B-24, while the actual attack was conducted by single-engine carrier-based aircraft. The illustration later showing the atomic missions to Hiroshima and Nagasaki shows the bombs being dropped from a P-38 fighter instead of B-29 bombers. Granted, most people wouldn't notice the errors and it really doesn't change the overall story.

    • @tomhannah4158
      @tomhannah4158 2 года назад +1

      But Damn those are Stupid mistakes.

  • @crusiethmaximuss
    @crusiethmaximuss 2 года назад +3

    You're right, Diane. It is always the nonsense of politicians which causes wars, and NOT the common people of any nation. I am paraphrasing because I would not consider a politician of any government a leader. All they care about is money and keeping their employment positions.

  • @magform
    @magform 2 года назад +2

    The movie "Pearl Harbor" is truly a melodrama, and quite sanitized. Disney even changed the Japanese release to make the movie more acceptable to that culture. My Mother's family is from Honolulu Hawaii. My Grandfather worked at Pearl Harbor as a riveter before and after WWII, and rebuilt many a ship. My Mother eventually went to work for the U.S. Navy during the war, and my two older Uncles were Merchant Marines throughout the war. Though I had first hand knowledge of the attack before I ever entered school, even when I got older, I never knew the details. All of them had seen to much misery and death. Hawaii is quite the melting pot of cultures, and the "Mainland" born U.S. residents, though in charge, were probably the smallest minority group in the islands. Hawaii was placed under marshal law and there were curfews for all citizens of the islands. Hawaii operated under the control of the U.S. Army through most of the war.

  • @peggyscott7108
    @peggyscott7108 2 года назад +4

    My Dad was in the 11Airborne Division in the Pacific and an uncle was in the Marines. He was lucky they pulled out of Pearl on the way to the Philippines, three days before the attack. Thanks for your video's. Oh and the bombs were Little Boy and Fat Man. Not Little Boy and Fat Boy.

  • @mark1chism
    @mark1chism 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the great video. It was very insightful. Great job.

  • @lawrencedavis9246
    @lawrencedavis9246 2 года назад +7

    You are going to get one incredible history lesson after this, so I won't add much to it. A few words about our atomic weapon response:
    It is no secret that Germany had a similar program to build the first atomic weapons, but they weren't as far along as was believed. We have a small group of very brave Norwegian Rangers to thank for part of that delay. They skied their way to a heavy water plant in Norway that Germany had taken over, putting it out of commission. It is also suspected, but not proven, that the head of the German program might have deliberately sabotaged it to prevent the Nazis from being first.
    It is _not_ well known that the Japanese had two programs of their own, one in mainland Japan and one in Korea. They were being assisted by Germany who supplied the nuclear materials. When the Japanese realized that they would not be able to complete it in time, they made plans to deliver a dirty bomb attack by dumping the radioactive material on San Francisco. Their attack was planned for August, but the United States dropped their first bomb about ten days before their attack was to take place.
    The Japanese military wanted to continue to the bitter end and were not to be deterred. What pushed their Emperor into his decision to surrender was the Russians declaring war on Japan immediately after Hiroshima was bombed. The Japanese did not want to fight a war from two sides.
    Sorry for the long response. Thanks for everything you do, we so appreciate it.

    • @chipparmley
      @chipparmley 2 года назад

      Also, the German scientists, who were not allowed to work together on their atomic bomb project were off on the amount material needed for the bomb. They thought they would need a bomb the size of a truck to make it work.

    • @lawrencedavis9246
      @lawrencedavis9246 2 года назад

      ​@@chipparmley In terms of weight, 9,700 lbs is pushing close to 5 tons. That is larger than most trucks. The second bomb was 10,800 lbs. In that sense they were off indeed.

    • @chipparmley
      @chipparmley 2 года назад

      @@lawrencedavis9246 I dont remember the exact weights but the German calculations made it all but unworkable. They were not as close as people thought at the time.

  • @chrispedersen6918
    @chrispedersen6918 2 года назад +1

    I was a tour guide in Hawaii for a few years and went to Pearl Harbor several times a week. If you visit Hawaii, you should take the time to go to the Arizona Memorial. The best time to visit is on December 7th, when veterans from the attack, from both countries, return to remember and interact wit visitors.

  • @jackmessick2869
    @jackmessick2869 2 года назад +3

    If you want to understand Japanese motivations for going to war, try Vlogging through History's "Attack on Pearl Harbor (Montemayor) A Historian Reacts" Chris adds a lot to what is said, making his reaction very worthwhile.
    Very understandable graphics and also rare Japanese images of the attack.

  • @bobstewart8032
    @bobstewart8032 2 года назад +1

    My grandfather was there when the Japanese attacked. He escaped unscathed but then went to the Northern Solomons and Guadalcanal where he was severely wounded but recovered. He was then reassigned to The European Theater and fought against Germany in The Rhineland and The Ardennes which was part of The Battle of The Bulge.
    He survived WWII but ultimately received 3 Purple Hearts and 3 Bronze Stars.
    He had a bayonet wound and schrapnel left in his leg for the rest of his life.
    He passed away in 1996 at age 73.

  • @morrigankasa570
    @morrigankasa570 2 года назад +3

    You are always adorable Diane and I love your videos. I hope your next video will be a fun/humorous one, perhaps more Drunk Cooking?
    Additionally if you come to the US again and consider my state of Minnesota our capital city St. Paul is the Sister City to Nagasaki.

  • @hawkuser604
    @hawkuser604 2 года назад +1

    Diane, just a a note, Dec 7th 1941 Is my father's birthday and his 3 Half brothers all fought in WW2. One in Alaska, and one in Europe and not sure where that 3rd brother fought. My Grandfather fought in North Africa and was wounded there and my Great Uncle was on the Battleship Missouri when the Japanese signed the surrender documents to end the war.

  • @trudat1498
    @trudat1498 2 года назад +3

    I’d watch even if you were just reading the dictionary. You would find some way to make it interesting or funny.

  • @gregmcmahon957
    @gregmcmahon957 2 года назад +1

    Happy Monday! I enjoy this video.Have a safe and happy week.

  • @tmmccormick86
    @tmmccormick86 2 года назад +1

    The raid was intentionally planned to strike on a Sunday morning, as all ships would be in port on that day, not out training, and crews would be in church services.
    I was stationed in Hawaii, and one of the most sobering things I've seen in my live was row after row of headstones in the cemetery overlooking Pearl Harbor that say "UNKNOWN, USS WEST VIRGINIA," UNKNOWN, USS CALIFORNIA," etc.

  • @patriciaanderson8556
    @patriciaanderson8556 2 года назад +2

    My dad joined the Marines and fought in the South Pacific. He didn't carry a grudge against the Japanese. Few of the men who fought there did. There were several war brides from Japan in my parents circle of friends, and they were well liked by everyone. Freedom is only one generation away from tyranny, each generation has to gain it and defend it for themselves.

  • @denpobedy7881
    @denpobedy7881 2 года назад +1

    My dad and his brothers all volunteered as soon as they could after the attack on Pearl. By the grace of God, they all got home. The Sullivan brothers, sailors from Waterloo, Iowa. All 5 died when cruiser USS Juneau was sunk at Coral Sea battle. We still have their picture in our houses, we the sons of veterans.

  • @jeffthompson9622
    @jeffthompson9622 2 года назад +2

    My uncle Q.D. served on the CV6 Enterprise which, according to "The Big E", destroyed 74 enemy ships and 912 planes during the war. I found, read, and passed on to him the book that related what he and his crew mates suffered and accomplished while he was still alive and could share it with my cousins if he wished.

  • @JeRKII
    @JeRKII 2 года назад +1

    Thank tou for this 1 I learned a few things I didn't know as well.
    Keep up the great work

  • @Bob_just_Bob
    @Bob_just_Bob 2 года назад

    Glad that you decided to publish. Great video as always

  • @battmale
    @battmale 2 года назад +1

    The eventual fate of Admiral Yamamoto the architect of the Pearl Harbor attack is interesting. Shortly before the battle of Midway in June 1942, the US broke the Japanese codes, which enabled them to be lying in wait for the Japanese carriers there. Japan did not think the code was breakable and their hubris cost them. In April 1943, the US intercepted a coded message detailing travel plans for Yamamoto who was on a troop inspection tour. The US sent a small squadron of P-38 Lightning fighter aircraft - the only type at the time with the range to fly the several hundred-mile round trip to intercept his aircraft, the timing of their arrival was everything as they did not have the fuel or ammunition to loiter in the area before having to return safely, good planning and a lot of luck was on their side and they successfully intercepted and shot the airplane down that he was in. His body was found near the wreckage, belted upright in his seat and still holding his sword. The Japanese did not acknowledge his loss till late May 1943. This is just one of many thousands of stories from that time fought by people accurately called the "Greatest Generation".

  • @stevedavis5704
    @stevedavis5704 2 года назад +1

    I was hiding from a tornado in a small Kansas town one time and met a man who claimed to be part of the guard detail for Tojo after the war. He claimed the reason Tojo didn’t kill him self was he was constantly under observation by multiple people all the time so he never had the opportunity. He said it was an odd duty because most of the men were veterans of pacific combat and would have happily killed the man themselves but they were not going to allow him to die before he was charged and tried for war crimes. Basically they wanted him to be humiliated.

  • @nonyadambusness5158
    @nonyadambusness5158 2 года назад +1

    I came home from school one day and told my dad that we (the US) knew about the attack before it happened. He walked out of the room and came back in with a puzzle and dumped it on the table, but didn't bring in the box with the picture. . He told me I had all the information I needed to figure it out. I worked for a couple of hours and had she things together. When my dad came back into the kitchen he told me the event had happened and showed the box cover. I was able to finish the puzzle in minutes. The lesson... it's easy to put pieces together in hindsight what the final picture was.

  • @LostLar
    @LostLar 2 года назад +1

    A few errors in the video you watched: 1) US did not declare on Germany and Italy, They Declared war on the US. 2) I Japanize Secondary Target was the Aircraft Carriers, which they expected to find at Pearl Harbour. 3) All but two ff the "sunk" Battleships where savaged and used later in the war. (more of an Omission,). Also left out, was the ultimatum was to be given 1 hour before the attack, not after.

  • @moonglow630
    @moonglow630 2 года назад

    I LOVE the movie Pearl Harbor!!! Saw it in the theater 15 times, including twice in one day on two occasions. That’s a lot for a 3 hour movie, & I loved EVERY minute of it!!

  • @keithohara8167
    @keithohara8167 2 года назад +2

    This is going to cause crying x also, the amount of banging and clattering my neighbour does with his weights is worse than any drumkit x

  • @tomfrazier1103
    @tomfrazier1103 2 года назад +1

    The AA training ship was the U.S.S. Utah, a 1904 worn out battleship. I inherited a letter of a mining engineer whom was returning to Manila in November of 1941. Their steamer took a long circuitous route back, and was blacked out at times. They briefly stopped at Honolulu, but no one debarked, save ship's officers briefly. They returned on a southern route through the Netherlands Indies, then turned Nortb to Manila. They mailed the letter in mid November, and it reached California on Dec. 20th. Japan's "National character" includes a strong element of chancy gambling.

  • @drewdederer8965
    @drewdederer8965 2 года назад

    The attack was timed for Sunday morning for 2 reasons. First the most ships would be back in harbor (the US Navy was still on a mostly peacetime schedule) and a fair amount of the crew would be ashore (several ships were commanded by very junior officers during the attack.
    The Japanese were surprised at how fast the ships at least got their anti air guns working (inside of 5 minutes). The army's big gun ammo was locked up away from the guns, what damage they managed was with hand-held weapons. The ships fired off the ammo they had stored at the guns within 10-15 minutes, at which point there was a bit of a pause while the locks on the magazines were broken (most of the keys were with officers ashore) and passing chains were set up. Most of the losses in the first wave were in the last unit of torpedo bombers (who were flying down a predictable path at one-minute intervals. Something like 5 of the last 7 (out of 40) were shot down.
    The problem with the attack is that 1: It missed the Carriers (who weren't in port that day). 2. I left the base intact (they didn't have nearly the planes needed to do that, even with a third wave), which meant that other ships (and especially submarines) could still operate out of it, and the base could start salvaging and fixing the ships that were hit. And 3: It did nothing to slow down the ships building in the States due to the Vinson and two-Ocean Navy Bills. Most wouldn't be ready until 43 or even 44 but the new construction dwarfed what the Japanese had (and their building program was fairly small).