@@kxkxkxkx Openly Marxists coming back to US with a Russian wife to be a KGB spy? Sounds like a good plan. And then kills the president of the US who was making piece with the Soviet Union and cutting money from the military and intelligence budget of the US. Where is the motive, there is no proof that he used the rifle in question and what was his plan of escape? Then another lunatic kills him before he could talk. Then by chance, another lone psycho kills Robert Kennedy. And again by some miracle no other president got killed after that because they all supported wars and the CIA.
Major omission regarding Oswalds time in Russia : where did Oswald learn Russian so good that his wife Marina when meeting Oswald for first time thought he was russian due to his speaking russian so well?? And at the height of the Cold War how was it that Oswald was allowed back into the US so easily after defecting to Russia from working at a top secret U2 base... as if he had just gone up to Canada for a holiday? Thats beyond strange.
It's a true miracle of the cold war. A miracle only a CIA asset of EPIC PROPORTION could pull!!! lolololol! Hello?!? So obviously being handled and given a 'Russian bride' during the 'Cold War'. Unbelievable!
i find it strangest of all, how millions of people still don't get that you can't trust the mainstream media, and even after something as bogus as 911 20 years ago.
And you almost never see his brother 'Sam' who they claim is 'Jack' at the Dallas police Station on a couple of occasions. Jack shot 'Harvey' but Sam was used too. Jack's index finger was bitten off in a fight, Sam had all his fingers...
I believe Ruby killed Oswald to protect the Mob (which I think was involved). The question is why he would brazenly do that. I'd love to know why and what was he protecting. Perhaps he did it to protect others. This will always be the biggest question about the killings.
He was a mobster. And he worked for Richard Nixon, doing something that caused his testimony before the House Unamerican Activities Committee to be taken in secret executive session instead in front of the press like everyone else. He also lived two blocks from where Officer Tippit was murdered. Nothing to see here, folks.
Ruby alluded to powerful people who put him up to assassinating Oswald or forced him to and that the details would never be known. It's in a press conference. Ruby (conveniently for JFKs and RFK's enemies LBJ, Hoover and the mob) died of a fast acting cancer, something the CIA had been working on in the early 60's.
@@RenaissancManEng I think a cabal of the Mob, LBJ, Hoover, elements within the CIA and oil men killed JFK and Ruby was ordered to whack Oswald or he himself would be whacked.
i worked in restaurant supply and food delivery in DFW while in college from 1992 to 1997. I had weekly deliveries to the Dallas Jail using that same ramp that they show in this video. On timestamp 1:42:08 - notice that he walks down the ramp as he is trying to recreate the route that Jack Ruby took and the time it took him from western union to the back door of the jail where Ruby shot Oswald. I can attest, truthfully, that it was EASY and ACHIEVEABLE to walk to the back door of the jail down that ramp because I did it in a delivery truck once a week for years without assistance from police or anyone else. That gate u see on that ramp was never closed during any of the times that I delivered, which was usually early morning around 9 AM ish. So, what I am saying, is this. Conspiracy people who say that Jack Ruby must have been given some special access to the place where he shot Oswald are COMPLETELY WRONG. And, they do this because they have never been there in person. Jack Ruby could have easily just walked right into the bottom basement area of the jail in Dallas because it is blocked off from the rest of the jail by doors that are locked inside the basement. But, the lower area is really just a garage area where people park their cars. This area is where Oswald was shot as he was being put into an awaiting car that was merely feet from where he was shot. Getting into the REAL PART OF THE JAIL requires either keys or badges or to get someone to open the door that leads into the jail. During my delivery times, there was a callbox there that i would have to use at the door in order to get someone to open it for me so I could use my dolly/handcart to deliver the food/restaurant supplies to the jail area. Once in the jail, using the lower garage door, there is still no access to the rest of the jail unless u use the service elevator to go up. That also requires a key. So, the idea that the Dallas jail is easily accessible to anyone off the streets is FALSE and misleading in the Jack Ruby situation. ONE: Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby in the basement outside the jail (not IN the jail. He was led out the jail by police/detectives while he was handcuffed), after he was lowered down in the service elevator and escorted out the bottom floor door and into the publicly accessed garage area of the basement (where a car would be waiting to drive him to wherever the detectives/police where taking him that day). TWO: The length of the ramp that goes down into the basement/garage area is not very long...maybe 50 to 80 feet and the ramp curves to the right at the bottom after the area where the jail door sits (the basement/garage jail door is old and very thick like it's bulletproof and requires a key to open it) . The ramp levels out there and the road/ramp curves to the right (if you were to park in the basement, you would continue in your car to the right). The door is adjacent to the road/ramp at the curve and on the left as u walk down. I am Saying, it is less than a few seconds to walk down the ramp and go left and be at the door where Oswald was shot. It would take someone only seconds to walk from the outside street, down the ramp, and be face to face with that door. And, as I said, there is a gate at the top of the ramp at the sidewalk/street area, but it is never closed that I have ever seen. There is a chain that has to be pulled on the left side of the ramp entrance which lowers or raises that gate (similar to what you see in a semi-truck delivery bay in a warehouse) and it disappears into the top when fully open. I assume that this gate on the street leading into the ramp area was locked at night or overnight, but I was never there at those times. So, YES, the public had access to the ramp and lower basement/parking area of the jail. you could drive into it, or you could walk down the ramp as well. the lower garage area would only be inaccessible from the public if the gate was closed and locked using the chains and applying a pad lock. It closes similar to what you see in NYC shops that face the street...like a shutter door that rolls up and down and closes and has an area to be locked if you use a padlock on the chain to keep it from moving. At time stamp 1:43:30 u can see the service elevator and how people gain access to it. I have walked through those halls (right where they are) hundreds of times. And, that counter there is almost always vacant. It had personnel/people working in it during the time of Oswald's being escorted out because it was such a big event going on in the Dallas Jail. Most of the time, that area is completely vacant with no one in it. It's really just a storage area and is closed off from the rest of the jail. One last thing: People who aren't from Texas or don't live in the USA might not realize...in Texas, it used to be completely legal to have a gun, carry a gun, buy a gun, and shoot a gun in the 1960s. I grew up from 1970 to 1997 in Texas. Owning guns in Texas is not an uncommon situation (especially in the rural areas for hunting, etc.) Having grown up here, I would say that maybe 40 to 50 percent of the citizens of Texas own a gun, maybe more. And, at least 5% of Texans are fervent gun owners with a lot of guns and use them frequently to do various things (gun range, hunting, etc.)
@@michael-4k4000 what? There was a trial. And a video of the murder. Well, maybe 10 videos. How much more proof do you need that Jack ruby killed Oswald? Give me a freaking break.
Great insight! Thanks for that comment! It's those informations that put that whole case to rest and show that big events don't always need big causes. Sometimes it's as simple as it seems.
The level of PTSD I'd suffer of I were in Jackie's shoes is ASTRONOMICAL!!! I'm all kinds of anxious just imagining it 😳 I would probably need a soft room & a huggy jacket! How was she so damn calm and/or poised after this?
@@eljerc5894 No, you have no idea of what happens after such trauma. I witnessed an awful event. I was standing nearby. some people were screaming, but a lot of US just calmly walked ran to safety. We were in shock, but our reaction appeared to be calm. Days later, the reality hit me and I lost it. I was given sedatives to calm my terror, as was Jackie. One thing I took from that and a couple of less severe incidents, is that I remain calm during emergencies. My therapist taught me to celebrate that.
I was in 6 grade when Kennedy was shot , our teacher was so upset they sent our class out to the playground ...Crazy how at that age an extra recess trumps anything that happens in the world .
As more research is done on serial killers, mass murderers, assassins, etc. the trend of a disconnected childhood appears. Children growing up with no sense of family or belonging, especially ones that are consistently told they are an unwanted burden, are emotionally bankrupt. They imitate others socially to fit in, but they’re basically high functioning sociopaths… Some monsters are born, but rarely. Nearly all of them are made. Sad.
Fascinating subject ... It's like a "perfect storm" consisting of neurological, psychological and sociological disorders. In other words, a born psychopath with a neurobiological deficiency and abusive childhood. There's often a psychosexual, predatory and degradation component, and a lust for power and control. Combine everything and you have the potential for a serial killer.
It’s borderline personality disorder. The borderline smirk. The mood swings, rages. Present from childhood. Men with borderline are poorly understood, and behind some of the worst impulsive crimes.
It’s amazing how much footage there was of him prior to the so called assassination. You don’t see this with other assassins, they are loners and fly under the radar .. LHO was everywhere and on everyone’s radar
It's not amazing, Oswald was already famous- the first US Marine to defect to the Soviet Union! Back in 1959, just four years before he shot JFK 🤔 Oswald was a KGB agent, recruited in Japan and trained in Russia and given a KGB wife 🇺🇸
Oswald was everywhere because he was ordered to by his "handlers" who wanted to set him up for JFK'S assassination. That includes going to Russia as part of the False Defector Program that was run by the CIA and military intelligence. Oswald DID NOT assassinate JFK or policeman Tippit. End of story.
Oswald had very little video or audio of himself. In fact, if you go back the killing of Abraham Lincoln you will see he had more public documentation. When he shot Lincoln just about everyone in the Theater knew who he was.
Agree. It’s totally baffling that they wouldn’t say “we need to ensure he stays alive as he KNOWS why or something”. How they could not foresee something like Ruby is…unexplainable to anyone with common sense
Frontline ultimately ends up supporting a narrative that a lone gunman shot a Police Officer and the President of the United States.... There has not been one Newspaper or Television Media Outlet that mentions any information that there were Mafia, CIA & FBI ties back in 1963 and that the murder of a policeman & the president was by no one other than Oswald.... It's sad that there was a Coup D'etat in America and with the help of the media, it was never followed.... Remember this. The Bigger The Conspiracy, The Muddier The Water...
@@brianbaird1503 Even if you wear tinfoil hats and believe wackjob theories, this is a fine documentary. The editing, archival footage, narration, interviews, score, are top notch.
I’m an Army recruiter, and I go there (dealy plaza) a few times a week, for MEPS. I also think it’s interesting that something so historical happened so close.
I agree.. The narrator was truly exceptional. Do you know the name of the narrator? Thanks:) His voice reminds me of the guy who did the FBI files and the one who did the Air Force One documentary on the history channel long ago. Just really good..
If more people donated to PBS they could make more/better shows. Would be interesting to see how donation declines may contribute to lesser quality shows... pretty sure a lot of people who used to donate to PBS now give their $ to Netflix, HULU, HBO, etc.
This special Frontline aired in 1993 was originally divided into 3 parts (all aired the same night) and was about 3 hours long. I wish PBS had that version uploaded instead of this truncated version.
+ShiksaWithChutzpah You do know that Shiksha is a highly derogatory word, don't you? I once thought shiksa was a harmless enough word believing it merely meant "gentile female" - but it's much worse than that.
If you want a real sense of history...go to dallas, and stand in front of the book depository...regardless of how you feel about this entire situation, time feels like it has stood still ever since
It has stood still and the world will never get over it until the truth is acknowledged. The Oswald did it alone Garbage is an insult to everyone. Except the mindless cretins who promote it.
@@roberthouston3809 The TSBD might feel like a movie set to those who know more about Oliver Stone than they do JFK. To those of us who lived thru that shocking and agonizing day, Dealey Plaza is about the most humbling, haunted and REAL place in the USA.
We went to Dealey Plaza about 15 years ago. It was so unreal standing there, on the X, in the middle of the street. My heart was so heavy. I wasn't even born when JFK was killed, but being there in that place affected me greatly. I didn't even go into the school book depository. I couldn't.
Watching Frontline PBS documentaries -- i.e. experiencing their research, perspectives, and narratives -- gives the same breathtaking experience as reading those incredibly-written, esteemed non-fiction literary or investigative journalism books which go on to be shortlisted for, or win, renowned recognitions like the Pulitzer prizes and such. I was utterly shocked to find out after watching this documentary that so much about Oswald was very well documented already well before the Kennedy assassination. Absolutely loved every minute of this one as well! ❤❤❤
@@aDistantLight I'm making no conclusions at all. I speculate that the CIA has NO ROLE in picking the motorcade route, why would they? If you think they do, let's hear it. If in fact they did, that would throw more light on an agency that usually tries to work in the shadows. The book depository job was brought to Oswald's attention by a family friend. My original comment, that unseen forces shape HUMAN events, should have told you that I was referring to things that are not of this world.
@@aDistantLight As I understand it,it was Ruth Paine that was instrumental in getting LHO the job at the TSBD...she was a CIA contract agent along with her husband who was a big noise at Bell Helicopters...also,its alleged that at Dallas Police HQ,LHO was asked about the green Nash Rambler he was supposedly seen jumping into immediately after the shooting ..he slams the desk and says 'that car belongs to Mrs Paine,dont try and drag her into this '.
@@aDistantLight THere was no way Oswald's job at the depository could have been planned by the CIA. Ruth Payne heard from a neighbor that there might be an opening there and called them, and told Lee, and Lee liked the idea he would be working with books.
That's because most documentaries are conspiracy theories that leave out facts or have outright lies (JFK). Another good documentary is Kennedy Assassination: Beyond Conspiracy.
@@vernpascal1531 Given Stone packed more lies (at least forty that I counted) into his fantasy film of 1991, you'll forgive me if I'm not inclined to put any faith in what that guy has to say now.
@@vernpascal1531 There is no need to see a Hollywood movie about the assassination of JFK because there is enough footage of the principal people involved in the consequences of the event speaking their own words rather than movie stars pretending to be them.
@@Boston_420 Funny then isn't it that "the people", the simple ordinary folks were the ones whose testimony, eye witness accounts and alertness were the ones got Lee Harvey Oswald caught. Bonnie Ray Williams, Wesley Frazier, Johnny Brewer, Amos Euins, Earlene Roberts, William Whaley, W.W.Scoggins, Jack Tatum, Ted Calloway to name a few.
I met June Oswald Porter, Lee's oldest daughter. She's now in her early 60's and is willing to talk, but not on the record. Why? her kids still get threats! America will never let this go nor will they ever get it solved. It's gonna be one of those Stonehenge mysteries.
1. Lee Harvey Oswald owned the rifle found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. An ID card in his wallet had A Hidell’s name. The same name that Klein’s in Chicago shipped the rifle to his Post Office box in Dallas. 2. Oswald owned the handgun that was used in the murder of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit. 3. Oswald was identified by witness Howard L. Brennan as the person firing a rifle at JFK . 4. Marina Oswald admits to having taken pictures of Lee with these weapons in the back yard photos. The negatives of the pictures were taken with Oswald’s camera. 5. Buell Wesley Frazier observed Oswald take a package into the Book Depository Building the morning of the assassination. 6. Oswald's claim of "curtain rods" in the package was bull shit. Oswald room already had curtains. 7. Oswald was working on the Depository's sixth floor that morning. LHO was the only one left on the 6th floor after everyone else left for lunch. 8. Oswald’s palm print and finger prints were on his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle after the assassination. 9. "A.J. Hidell" was actually Oswald himself; and the order form from Klein's Sporting Goods to purchase the rifle was positively proven to have been in Oswald's handwriting, and sent to a Dallas post-office box that was used by him. Oswald had a photo ID of himself with the name A. J. Hidell in his wallet when he was arrested. 10. Not ONE SPECK of any bullets/bullet fragments/bullet shells OTHER THAN THOSE COMING FROM OSWALD'S 6.5-MILLIMETER MANNLICHER-CARCANO RIFLE were discovered anywhere in Dealey Plaza, the limousine, the TSBD, Parkland Hospital, or in the victims 11. The majority of Dealey Plaza witnesses said shots came from behind the President, in the direction of the School Book Depository Building. In addition, an even larger percentage of witnesses said they heard EXACTLY three shots fired. No more, no less. And three spent shells (so-incidentally?) were found in the Sniper's Nest. 12. EVERY SINGLE ONE (if not 100%) of the newsmen and reporters riding in the motorcade in Dealey Plaza, who were in a position to immediately report the shooting to the world via media outlets (radio, television, and newswire services), heard EXACTLY THREE SHOTS FIRED. 13. Oswald makes an unusual trip to Irving on Thursday, November 21, 1963, to retrieve his "curtain rods". His rifle is found missing from Ruth Paine's garage. Some curtain rods, which Mrs. Paine testified she DID have in her garage prior to the assassination (via 1986 questioning of her by Vincent Bugliosi during the TV Docu-Trial "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald"), were STILL IN HER GARAGE AFTER NOVEMBER 22. 14. Oswald left behind his wedding ring and $170 for Marina on the morning of 11/22/63 15. Oswald, in flight, shoots and kill Dallas patrolman J.D. Tippit on 10th Street in the Dallas suburb of Oak Cliff. Multiple witnesses confirm it was Oswald who shot Officer Tippit. 16. Oswald attempted to murder retired General Edwin Walker in Dallas, on April 10, 1963. 17. Oswald could have indeed traveled, in 90 seconds or less, the distance across the sixth floor of the TSBD and descended the four flights of stairs in time to have been seen by policeman Marrion L. Baker on the building's second floor. Oswald was guilty as hell. That's where he is now.
Even though every single one of these points are true and factual John, good luck convincing any closed-minded conspiracy patsy to even CONSIDER any of them as even relevant. To them everything, all the evidence is fabricated, planted, exaggerated or just a flat-out lie, ALL part of the massive "cover-up." They ignore all testimony from simple common folks (with no books to sell) such as Wesley Frazier, Howard Brennan, Earlene Roberts, Jack Tatum, Harold Norman and Johnny Brewer. I believe that Robert Oswald, who agonized over this for 55 years till his death in 2018, had it exactly right.
Not sure how many people actually WATCH this with an open mind --- in my humblest of opinions, this has been the BEST investigation/documentary ever done. I am by no means a fan of the current PBS biased reporting, but believe this (completed in 1993) is very excellent. Think whatever you want but they researched TF out of this. Plus IF you have ever REALLY been to surprisingly small Dealey Plaza -- then you too know "In Dealey Plaza it IS ALWAYS NOVEMBER 22, 1963."
@@easternyellowjacket276 We are not talking about your version of the Republican party here -- talking about what a great PBS Investigation this was in 1993. Is crazy how some people want to turn everything into an infantile political pissing contest. BYE.
@@DanC-go9lc The Republican Party is a disaster. Fear mongering disaster. I have no problems being proud of the fact that I most definitely voted for Biden/Harris. Trump was a disaster.
The fact Ruby was friends with the cops, was in the station Fri night and just happened to be at the right place at the right time Sun, down to the minute, PROVES someone tipped him off....
Ruby had both mob AND government ties. He "suddenly" went insane while being held and seen ALONE with1 Dr who was in on MK Ultra and the hippie movement in San Francisco..
There are just too many coincidences here. Any one of them could be easily explained away, but the sheer number of coincidences would make anyone suspicious that there is something extraordinary going on here.
@@TheKillermike83: I grew up in the '60s (born in 1953) and these assassinations seemed almost normal to me. Even as a teenager I knew something sketchy was going on. Besides the most famous assassinations, there were dozens, if not hundreds of "lesser" assassinations going on. Any anti-establishment figure who showed a potential for leadership was either killed, discredited or imprisoned. It is my opinion that this is why we haven't had a real revolution in the country even though our government & business leaders are thoroughly corrupt. Any other society would have already brought out the guillotine. I may or may not be correct & this is just an opinion.
@@raydavison4288 during the Cold War there was a very active covert war of assassination between the KGB and CIA. The "third option" besides diplomacy and military conflict...
I was 7 years old. My father abruptly sat up in his chair and shouted; They shot him! They shot him! Son of b***h ! They shot him ! and yelled to my mother in the kitchen; Bea, they shot Kennedy! I remember the hushed, somber feeling that prevailed all around for weeks following the assassination. JFK was the promise of the future of America, and now that promise was dead. America lost her Prince and Camelot that day. And the American people were collectively and openly dubious about their government and have been ever since. All these years later questions remain. That in itself says a lot. 🤔
@@tpxchallenger No, not at all. And if you watch interviews of the people who were there just to see the president no one ever even mentions the possibility of Cubans or Soviets being involved. It was a whole different mindset. Our government speculated, but never accused either government. It wasn't the charged, polarized political atmosphere like today. There was even speculation that the "mob" had put out a hit on him.
@@geoben1810 Is your Father still alive to ask? I read that Johnson was sure that Castro did it and that Castro was sure Johnson did it. I'm way more inclined to believe that elements of organized crime put Oswald up to it than elements of the US government did. As I've said before Booth, Guiteau, Czolgosz, Hinkley, "Squeaky" Fromme, Schrank, and Torresola, all shot and killed or attempted to shoot and kill American Presidents. The only conspiracy was the ones they cooked up themselves. MOSSAD and the KGB are two agencies we are very, very sure have killed their enemies and one method they NEVER use is a sniper because it is too uncontrollable. Imagine Oswald missed slightly and ended up hitting Jackie in the face, blinding and horrifically disfiguring her while only grazing JFK. Some conspiracy now! The whole idea of the CIA/Military-industrial conspiracy is, to me, absurd, no matter how much Oliver Stone one watches. If "they" wanted him out of the White House in '64 all they would have to do is leak information about Kennedy's partying with floosies in that same White House, his dependency on back medicine, and his mob ties. The electorate then was not as forgiving as it is now. I think Oswald acted alone, out of his own self aggrandizement, seeing himself as some kind of world heroic figure of justice. He was an element of chaos.
@@tpxchallenger No, my father has been gone over 20years now. I don't remember him ever expressing an opinion as to who he thought was behind it. As to LBJ and Castro, of course they would suspect each other. I forgot about the CIA being suspect, presumably because JFK was having doubts about being involved in Vietnam. And the mob hit theory was because he appointed RFK as AG. And why did Ruby kill Oswald? I saw that on T.V. when it happened. So now the only two people who could answer all the questions are long dead and the the doubts remain. But I do think Oswald acted completely on his own. Oh don't forget about the mysterious man on the grassy knoll And there was supposedly another man on the overpass. It's all the unanswered questions that lead to all the conspiracy theories. The magic bullet.... I think it was the shock of losing the promise of the future that JFK represented. Americans couldn't understand why.... or who would want to kill that promise.
Why don't they show the footage where Oswald is in front if the press and has still no idea why he was arrested. A photographer ask him why he did it and Oswald is saying "they say I shot a police man but I didn't do anything" and the photographer tells him "no Sir, you're here because they say you shot the President!!! Oswald was clearly shocked!!! This footage should be in a 2 hour documentary!
"Oswald was clearly shocked!!!" LOL. Did you expect Oswald to say he was a pitiful un-hinged lil wife-abusing nobody Marxist anarchist who despised America and capitalism -- and craved attention, making a name for himself the easy cowardly way -- by Killing President Kennedy and then Officer Tippit ??? Do you know ANYTHING about Oswald ? That wife-beating curtain-rod toting woe-is-me patsy.
Asked point blank on live TV if he shot the President, Oswald doesn't scream a tearful denial, doesn't beg protection for his family, doesn't make the slightest attempt to blurt out anything about any conspiracy, and instead just shrugs a hollow, rambling reply that all but dodges the question and complains the cop he was caught red-handed trying to shoot had the nerve to hit him.
@@alfredoibarra4592 And it's hilariously apparent that you actually think your comment made some kinda big time point? 🤭🤣 I'm sure it did in Trump/Alex Jones world where Trump pulled out his little shriveled-up pink dict-atorship and indecently exposed that he's indeed the world's greatest grifter and simpleton-kook-magnet.
PBS frontline makes the best documentaries. Well written and the gentleman who does the voice over is outstanding. I also recommend their podcasts too. Top notch
except they are always on the side of the status quo/government. Is Oswald really the one that needs investigating at this point? How about the CIA? How about the shot that came from the grassy knoll?
@@Skipbo000 Frontline frequently is on the side of what is hidden. If they investigated this and say there was no evidence of a shot from the grassy knoll, and no mention of the CIA, it's because they investigated and that was what they found. But people keep inventing stories because that's what people want to do about this crime.
@@eameece to keep suggesting that Oswald was the only gunman, as this piece does, is a denial of the facts. It is also well known that the FBI was well aware of who Oswald was before the assassination ever happened, a fact that was conveniently omitted. Any suggestion that the government had something to do with killing JFK was avoided. Frontline is always willing to seek out bad players, but is never willing to take on big topics like government corruption and will never go anywhere near anything that is considered a "conspiracy theory." In fact they are more ready to ridicule anything outside of the status quo rather than investigate it for any merit. It is what is wrong with the media in general. They take the government's story and go from there, never questioning the story itself. A DC organization themselves, they don't want to be the ones calling leaders liars. They accept what they say at face value. This is what's always wrong with Frontline.
@@Skipbo000 No, BO! There are no facts about any other gunmen; only some speculation and unproven rumors. And even if there was another gunman behind the grassy knoll, he had no possible connection to Oswald who fired the fatal shot. Yes, authorities had Oswald on file; they were just not able or willing to track him strictly enough and thought he wasn't dangerous enough. There is no need for an investigation of the JFK assassination to claim that the government had something to do with it, if there's no facts to support such a claim-- and there aren't any. And Frontline often does indeed explose government corruption, but no, it does not depend on kooky conspiracy theories. Anyone using half a brain and any critical thinking knows such theories today are false, including the granddaddy of them all: the JFK conspiracy theories. It is YOU folks promoting conspiracy theory today who are upholding the status quo, big time, led by the conspiracy theorist in chief, and you ought to know who THAT is, and which Party he leads.
good job. i'm a bit hung up on the weather wind reports for that day and the behavior of the arterial spray, and the velocity of the car at the time, very interesting stuff, thank you
if he was not a person of some interest before Nov 63, if he was poor, if he was a loner - WHERE did all this footage of him come from? why all these videos of him long before Nov 63? What would be the point if he was just a regular guy with a couple adjustment issues? like, WHO was the camera person, on these various days in various locations. its just seems wild that there would be all this footage of him, like where and why?
@tricie79 it’s not true that LHO was not a person of some interest. He was subject to questioning and some degree of surveillance by the FBI prior to the JFK assassination, which is not surprising given his background. In addition, LHO actively sought publicity, and he was somewhat successful in it, most notably as a result of his 1963 “fair play for Cuba” committee demonstration in New Orleans.
I have always found that asking who benefited from an event is often a good direction to understanding who was behind that event.A good rule of thumb in most cases.
The whole world changed the day my 3rd grade teacher was pulled out of our classroom and returned white as a ghost and shaking. She had to make an announcement to 30 innocent children. An entire generation of American kid's lives were shaped by this moment.
30:58 I lived in that house. The woman on the corner had a daughter that used to talk to LHO. When he came back from Russia he lived with his brother a couple of blocks away from my house.
@@rawgab4439 WHETHER OR NOT that was the real or bogus LHO in Mexico city during this time is almost irrelevant- what IS RELEVANT is that this entire incident was being staged as part of the quirky Oswald cover story to be presented following JFK's murder: another nail in the circumstantial evidence coffin for LHO.....
High marks to the narrator. He is a master of creating an atmosphere of mystery and dread. Only, no mystery here. Oswald killed JFK. American complacency is to blame. Same story behind 9/11, COVID-19, and Pearl Harbor.
People never seem to mention HOW BRAVE AND LOVING HIS WIFE WAS. SHE INSTANTLY CRADLED HIM THE CLIMBED OUT ONTO THE BAck to block further shots. No one mentions this. She would have taken those bullets. .. very sad. Very brave lady.
you talking about Jackie? She didn't climb out to block further shots. She climbed out in sheer terror! It was the secret service men that directed her to climb back down. It was a split of a second. No one was clear on what to do. The least of all, Jackie. None-the-less, she put on a brave face after the fact & remained noble thru-out for a nation to grief.
‘People never seem to mention’ what are you talking about. Much us said about her bravery and her countenance in the aftermath. Like she is a legend for that and her pink suit.
Some people think they 2 boys using same ID as a govt. Defector program. 1 called Lee & other called Harvey. That why lot photos are very strange looking.
For those who may be curious I sent an email to Frontline today to find out what was taken out of the original 1993 version for the 2013 version and WHY ? The 1993 version was nearly 3 hours, while the 2013 version less than 2 hours. I feel the 1993 version was far better, more in depth, more balanced and interesting, and investigated seriously and openly many more leads and avenues. Doubt they will reply but who knows --- will follow-up post either way. UPDATE --- I synced and viewed the 1993 vs. the 2013 version and posted what I could find was deleted at the bottom of this thread on March 9, 2022.
@@psy-op1201 Hello, no news back from Frontline yet on my question. I sent the email Jan. 5 so just 4 days ago. However I have already received 4 generic emails from them saying Welcome, promoting their upcoming Frontlines, thanking me for subscribing (which I did not do), and thanking me for my generous donation (which I did not give). So we will see.
Sometimes strange how famous or infamous people seem to always have vintage home footage of themselves. I grew up in the eighties when home video was still yet a popular thing at least not by my middle-class family standards. If I were to become famous I don't think you could find much if any at all home video of my childhood. Which is rather sad to me
I don't find it strange really, those types of people are usually full of their own self importance, makes sense that seeing themselves on screen would be something they liked to see, especially attention seekers like Oswald and his Mother. I was born 83 and there is little video evidence (one video of me as newborn on super 8 taken by my grandfather) of my existence until I was about 12 I think this is because 8mm movie cameras that were so popular in Oswalds time where all but phased out and the video cameras that replaced them were expensive (and the size of a small bus) so my cinematic life picks up in the mid 90s when they were cheaper and more practical.
I find it strange because if he did actually do it.. Why did he say he didn't? Surely he would take credit for it, as we see with the photos of him and his gun he looks like he's proud.. Something doesn't add up, like he doesn't seem like a guy who would be able to pull that off anyway.. I really do think the photos of him are photoshopped and that he was not guilty at all, that's why he was killed-so he couldn't stand trial, he would expose the government or whoever actually did it, he's sort of a perfect scapegoat because he learned Russian and was sort of a loner who owned a gun. Idk maybe that's a hot take but it's interesting to talk about.
@@RealParadoxed ...... Though proud he may have been, guilty though he was. Its not that hard to understand why even a proud presidential assassin would try and deny such a thing. He was more than just a man with a gun he was a trained skilled marksman with a political chip on his shoulder that was weighing heavy on his mental health more &more each day. His wife was Russian. He went to Russia and studied Russian politics. He was in support of Cuba, Two countries which were infamously highly controversial rivals with JFK almost directly. And why did Oswald blatantly shoot and kill a police officer just a few maybe only a couple hours after the assinnation..... I mean come on. Oswald reminds me a lot of another political amateur extremists named Timothy McVeigh. It all kinda seems to add up in my opinion.
@@RealParadoxed Oswald (and his mother) were entitled A-Holes who thought they were smarter than everyone else and never took responsibility for anything their entire lives, honestly I would be more suspicious if he did take credit, because it would be the only time he behaved out of character in the whole event. If you are a bit on the fence about the JFK assassination I highly recommend Case Closed by Gerald Posner, the audiobook is on YT for free. Reclaiming History by Vincent Bugliosi is better but a bit more long winded and harder to find (for free at least)
@@RealParadoxed If Oswald immediately confessed, he was as good as in the electric chair as a cowardly murderer. If he denied it, he could hopefully spin this out for a long time and be in his own sad mind Mr. Big Shot. It's hard to say what exactly he was thinking because he was so warped. Extensive investigation of the photos over the years have found no evidence of fakery and in any case Oswald's wife confirmed he had her take the photos, they are real and he proudly showed them off to people.
@@georgiaman1926 The evidence doesn't exist because the "right people" hid it? That statement explores the depths within the category of paranoid, unfounded claptrap. Perhaps a few more twists to your tin-foil hat will set you aright.
Yup. Unless you read and understand Lone Star Speaks Zachry, Honest Answers Palamara, JFK And The Unspeakable Douglas and the new book of the 2 documentaries by Oliver Stone you don't know a damn thing about the Assassination.
it amazes me how people are so quick to actually thank the program Frontline for proving Oswald acted alone...it is very cleverly done. The documentary throws evidence of connections with organized crime right in the face, then at the end it's....leave it to rest...even if the words spoken are by someone else. The final word therefore is....let it rest..forget about questioning what might have or not have happened. I'm only saying people are so quick to believe a tv program. That tv program is Frontline, that is owned by a venture capital corporation. it's like, pbs tells the truth without question....people are easily led. If there's ever lies in the tales of history...it's perpetuated easily by revisionist history. it goes on and on and on.
@@heaven7360 ppl were quick to believe Oliver Stone's JFK was factual. There was no conspiracy in the assassination and Stone's film JFK is a propagandist film and yet ppl believe it to be true that Oswald was a patsy.. Are freaking kidding me? Oswald was no patsy just a crazed, dangerous communist
How in the hell do so many people tell detailed stories about having met a man decades previously, in some cases in very ordinary circumstances. I swear some people just want to make themselves part of the story. I can barely remember who I met last month, let alone decades back. 🤦♂️
all I can say is I can remember most things in my life with clear detail so if you can't then I suggest you find the switch to your brain and turn it on
@Liberty family so the lives of celebrities and the BS that Hollywood churns out is responsible for my less than enriched life? I thought it was bad acting politicians and less than intelligent people blaming each other instead of blaming the government. Caring more about a Target than human lives, being willfully ignorant of the struggles of ALL our neighbors... Not just the ones we let in our homes.
I think if something that consequential happened in your life, you would remember things surrounding it. I was robbed at gunpoint (they killed the next person they robbed that night) and I remember EVERYTHING including the time on the dashboard clock and the way one of the guy's ears stuck out.
@@chadmcvicker935 In your case it's easy for you to remember things you've done in your life. There's only been 2 or 3 of them if you count learning to flush the toilet and wipe yourself.
@@chadmcvicker935 You think you can but it's not the case. Memories are completely unreliable and there have actually been studied cases of people being tricked into "remembering" things that never happened. I suggest you worry less about that switch, and more about educating yourself on how memory works before you start throwring baseless drivel around the internet.
7:00 "spent his days at public libraries and museums"....by todays standards that's not unusual, like kids who spend their days blogging, gaming or on their phones. In other words he was your classic nerd, not a criminal type. Scary that it was as if he was time transported from 2020 to 1960. He had just turned 20 when he went to Russia and turned 24 around November 1963. This was a kid, not a sophisticated adult.
Lee was a smart kid but also an orphan with a crazy part-time mom living in poverty. That is why he became a committed Communist and why Fidel Castro was his hero ☝️ and that is why the KGB was able to recruit him in Japan and why he moved to Russia
@@anthonymurphy1406 a mafia goomba just waltzed into the police station and whacked the most important suspect in American history before he could confess- in front of about two dozen cops, whose only job at that moment was to keep that suspect alive. This is after the president gets shot during a parade in broad daylight... And the suspect supposedly gets away on foot.
@@anthonymurphy1406 remember that Donald Trump and Joe Biden both agree! We can't release those files or it will endanger "NATIONAL SECURITY". WHO YOU VOTING FOR NEXT TIME?
I was 10. I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing. I was in 5th grade class, and I heard the announcement over the intercom that said that the President had been shot. About a half hour later, they announced that the President had been killed. The world just seemed to stop. I read everything I could find on the topic. I just couldn't believe it happened. It didn't seem real. People everywhere were just stunned.
Such a shocking chain of events I'm blown away. I was born in 1980 in England so I had only heard and seen limited video. Now in the day of being able to look up anything on the internet I am blown away at things that happened. And Jack Ruby shooting lee and then getting the DP. So many lives ruined. And then Jo and JFK jr dieing is so tragic.
The way that the former kgb agent explains why they didn't think Oswald was a fbi or cia spy is hilarious. His face basically says "there is no way the cia would send an emotionally damaged incompetent person to spy on us"
Also pretty funny how the KGB claims Lee was a nutcase but admit they gave him the best apartment and highest pay in Minsk (also home to George de Mohrenshildt and a large KGB training base) and they also gave him a KGB wife🚩 Lee Oswald's "historical diary" was also written by the KGB ☝️
@@billolsen4360 Felix Leiter from James Bond? LOL no I just read a lot.... Best books on the subject are by Jim Hosty and Carlos Bringuier and Jim Angleton's ghostwriter (Edward j Epstein) ☝️ also Ion Pacepa and Petr Deriabin
Such a strange story. Some of the details seem too coincidental to be a conspiracy and some of the details seem too coincidental to not be a conspiracy.
@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES There's no such thing as a "promoted conspiracy". It was a conspiracy. During the early days of the HSCA hearings in the 1970's, Senator Richard Schweiker met with chief counsel Robert Tannenbaum. He gave him a file on a "Maurice Bishop",who turned out to be David Atlee Phillips of the CIA. Schweiker told Tannenbaum that quote "After you read this file, you'll see the CIA killed JFK. Phillips also admitted to Mark Lane during a debate that Oswald was never in Mexico City.
A bullet fast enough to pass through two humans, breaking several bones on it's way, causing *five* wounds, but yet so slow that it ended up not being deformed.... I will never believe that.
The Shot that went threw JFK's upper back, started to tumble in the 3 feet between JFK and Connelly and entered his back sideways. It slowed down enough that it did damage to Connely's bones but not to the bullet itself. Simple.
@SiljCBcnr for the life of me I still cannot understand why everyone on the planet continues to peddle this story that the second shot, the one that went through the presidents neck, was the one that hit Connally. I've watched Governor Connally interviewed at least three different times and he gives the same account. He hears a shot, looks over his left shoulder where he heard it come from, begins to look the other way and is hit in the back. Felt like someones fist in his back. Watch the Zupruder film. When Kennedy is hit in the neck, Connally turns around. He's fine. He goes to turn the other way when. . . the headshot. When Kennedy is hit in the head, the Governor doubles over forward in his seat as he is struck by the same bullet. It's the headshot that is the magic bullet. No one wants to believe this for 2 reasons. 1) Those who support the Warren commission don't want to recognize this because the Warren Commission didn't review the Zupruder film and they concluded that the 2nd shot, the one through the neck, was the one that hit Connally. 2) Conspiracy theorists don't want to recognize this because if Connally was hit by the same round that went through the head of Kennedy the shot MUST have come from behind and not from the infamous grassy knoll.
Nobody kills the president of the US and a Dallas police officer and gives secret U2 fight data to the Russians from a chair.... Lee Oswald was one of the greatest KGB agents that ever lived, you hapless dupes 🤭
The fact that Oswald was then immediately shot by a seedy guy (Ruby), as opposed to a Kennedy fan or something similar, shows me there’s something else going on behind the scenes. Personal opinion, of course.
Read up on Ruby , he loved HIS PRESIDENT JFK as he called him. Also, told a bunch of people he didn't want Jackie having to come back to Dallas for a trial. And yes he knew mobsters, and cops, lots of them.
@@DanC-go9lc Ruby was also extremely impulsive and violent. One time one of the customers at his strip club had stiffed a cab driver who had drove him to Ruby's club. When the cab driver came inside to try to collect his money Ruby got pissed off and threw the cab driver down a flight of stairs. When Ruby saw Oswald in the garage he had a smirk on his face. Ruby got pissed and that's when he pulled out his gun and shot Oswald.
Well according to Ruby’s sister, he was destroyed by the assassination. All weekend long she saw him often and said he was very broken up and emotionally agitated about it. He was a fan. Mr Lavelle who escorted Oswald down to the car where Ruby shot him, band Lavelle said he personally knew many people who said at the time that if they had the chance to shoot Oswald they would have. Nothing unusual about Ruby’s actions
Have to ask, what do you or we know about how or what kind of outrage Ruby was feeling at that time no matter if he was seedy at all. That nas nothing to do with a conspiracy and everyone is looking for a conspiracy but the simple fact is is that all it takes is 1 lone whack job a most people have a really tough time accepting that.
@@dansullivan8648 well, I was just answering AllThatRemains questionwho was saying that a seedy guy shot JFK, not a JFK fan, and that leads him to think conspiracy. I just said Ruby was a fan of JFK because of the testimony of his sister who knew him well and spent much of Nov 22 and 23rd with Ruby. This cuts down one of his conspiracy features. There was no conspiracy.Oswald did it alone.
I could not even remotely imagine the horror Mrs. Kennedy had to have suffered, she was just inches away, looking right at the President when the fatal shot struck him down.
She was never the same. She suffered from extreme paranoia ever sense. She married an old ass Italian billionaire who she could basically hunker down in a mansion offering her a fortress to protect her kids.
I have a recording of this program on tape from the mid 90s. Some of this is not on the original recording and some of what was in the original recording was edited out. Parts about Ruby,information about the book First Day Evidence which, is where the unused photos of the trigger guard fingerprints are published etc. have been cut out of this.
This is the first time I've ever seen the autopsy photo of president kennedy' s head. Can't believe how choked up and physically nauseous I got.. this affected me 60 years ago and still does.
I wasn’t alive - this bothers me because I watched his wife pick up his brains from the back of that Cadillac - and I thought “I live in THIS country”? 🤦🏽♂️
Yea , couldn't even get a shot thru a window , at less than 100 feet . But , , from 6 floors up , , 265 (?) feet away , , moving Target , 2/3 hits . Food for thought , friends . . .
Well they felt compelled to show Oswald to the public after the press printed rumours that he was being mistreated by Dallas police for being suspected of not only killing the president but one of their own , officer JD Tippit
@@NxDoyle The point is having the press piled into a police station and parading a suspect out in front of them would never happen today, hard to believe you can’t comprehend that.
Still a great documentary, done in the 90's when most everyone with first hand contact with Oswald and witnesses to the assassination were still alive, but there is another cut of it that is nearly an hour longer, with more content.
One thing that always just blew my mind broke my heart whatever you want to call it is when Jackie was sitting there and basically wearing his brains and part of his skull that had to have been just absolutely horrifying
Her husband cheated on her with numerous other women. It makes what Bill Clinton did with Monica Lewinsky looks G rated. She put the hit out on JFK for his infidelities.
@@brandonsavitski She didn't put a hit out for him. That's a new conspiracy theory. There are thousands of such theories. Did you just make that one up?
Excellent. I like the idea of re-examing this topic every few years, as new information surfaces or technology grants us the ability to analyze and understand things we previously could not. Anything that's "Fact" based and backed up by "Evidence" is always welcomed in my world. .
cia used to have stories planted in press to muddy the waters, spreading red herring stories to distract divert confuse the attention, keep people guessing & distrustful of, at odds with those holding opposing "truths''.
sure, but it isn't it a little deluded of the public when there is all kinds of evidence Bush was behind 911, when we have had 20 years to study that alone, and Bush was never charged for any of their crimes?
@@billolsen4360 Seeing your husband's head explode is a different horror altogether. Miscarriages are sorrows. THAT, what I see in the video, up close....is a whole soldier in war type of unending nightmare. Ughhh
@@whoisdickieschnabel Mrs Lincoln had similar things happen to her, altho not as physically violent as JFK's injuries. She was mentally unable to function well for the rest of her life and lost all but one of her three children. 😢
@@billolsen4360 Don't go off script. Yes, other people elsewhere have seen atrocities. I'm talking about her and this situation. If you want to bring up other people, take it somewhere else. That's not what I'm referring to at this moment.
If you’re going to commit such a crime why would you use a rifle that could be traced back to you? How did they know it was Oswald within minutes after the shooting?
Oswald used a false name (A. Hidell) to order the rifle so that none of the FBI and CIA counterintelligence agents watching him would know that he was getting ready to shoot someone 💯 They knew it was Oswald right after the shooting because everyone knew the shots came from the TSBD and Oswald was the only person unaccounted for... Shortly thereafter Marina Oswald told Ruth Paine that Lee had a rifle, which was missing. This is the first time a non-KGB agent learned that Lee owned a gun 🇺🇸 Prior to that only Lee, Marina, George, and Kostikov knew about the rifle; all KGB agents
Using that logic why would Oswald go to work and shoot Kennedy? He could have gone to several open buildings that day and shot Kennedy and never go to work
@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES Why would Oswald run? He used a fake name to buy the gun. He could have walked casually back to his work station and pretend he was innocent. They didn’t know at the time who shot Kennedy. He ran for a reason. He was being set-up.
One thing I notice this documentary displayed differently was Jack Ruby's attitude after shooting Oswald... In most films I've seen apparently he claims he "had no memory of doing it" and that he was declared to have a psychotic break when in the jail cell. In this it just seems like he was boasting and proud of what he did. The friend visiting him in jail part is hard to discount though.
@Garbage Ilearsi I think it was Jolly West who you quite rightly said was one of the leading doctors involved in MK ULTRA program, who a few years later had dealings with Charles Manson.
@@johnadams5489 What kind of person would not be open to conspiracy? Dr. Burkley even said in a memo" Others besides Oswald must have participated".. He knew conspiracy from 3 different directions 1. Extra Bullet as seen by Dr. James Young details in Stone's new Documentary. 2. Saw back of head blown off. Knew JFK shot from the front 3. Signed Death Certificate with back wound at T3. Too low for ridiculous inane stupid and dishonest SBT.
Oswald was born in New Orleans, raised in NYC, and moved back to New Orleans, before moving to Ft Worth before the assassination. He was an outspoken Marxist, something that very, very few people in Dallas would tolerate if they knew his beliefs. To associate Oswald with Dallas is pure demagoguery.
@@dondrysdale7297 George H. W. Bush was a Yankee who attended Greenwich Country Day School from 1929 to 1937 and Phillips Academy, an elite private academy in Massachusetts, from 1937 to 1942. After WWII (where he was shot down twice flying missions) he attended Yale University. Later, he moved to West Texas (Midland/Odessa) to work as an oil field equipment salesman, not anywhere near Dallas. Don, it sounds like you have some personal pshycological problems.
When Oswald said, "I'm just a patsy", he was merely saying what the criminals say in countless movies and tv shows: "You can't find the real killer, so you're blaming it on me."
I was 8 at the time and living in southern Spain. We had a black and white TV set and on both channels the assassination was aired hours later. I did not understand what was happening, only that my parents were shocked to the core. My German mother cried and my Indonesian stepfather left the room to go outside, in order to smoke a cigarette. The staff in our home also went completely quiet. Later they told me, barely 18 years after WWII, that they feared the 3rd World War and this could be the rolling stone starting that nightmare.
Hard to imagine these days. But your family's reaction was probably the same everywhere in the world. Even Russians and sworn enemies respected the guy. I was 12 and those 3 days are still painful even now.
The guy that used to give Oswald a ride said he had a package it wasn't big enough to hold a rifle and in fact it had curtain rods. And if he didn't put the gun there then who did because someone had to
@@kxkxkxkx he said that he did not believe Oswald that it had curtains in it until he felt of it and he said it actually was curtains. And he had no reason to lie he didn't know Oswald for that long and he said if he killed the president he should be jailed for the rest of his life I don't believe those will shut it all I believe he was a Pepsi but this disproves that there was at least some conspiracy because someone had to bring the rifle to the building someone other than Oswald. He found it very difficult to bum rides to the corner store much less to his workplace on a non-work day.
@@danielwebster5748 anyone who thinks Oswald didn't do it is either a straight up loon or a disinformation agent actively obscuring the truth... there is no other possibility ☝️
Frazier said he had barely glanced at that package; then was overly sure of the length and that it was supposedly too short for the rifle. Frazier certainly didn't say the package contained curtain rods. Oswald had a rifle in Paine's garage, carried a long slender package into the TSBD, then the rifle was no longer in Paine's garage and was in the TSBD. Gee, I wonder what might have happened...
I thought the number of historically incorrect images diminished the report with modern bases, modern freeways, touchstone pay phones, etc.. Still, Frontline asks questions that others don't. I always wondered how Oswald could defect to the U.S.S.R. and return to the U.S. during the height of the Cold War, and how he had the funds to do so. It should be noted that international travel was much more expensive in the early sixties than today. Why is so much information still sealed, classified, or redacted?
No real mystery, the answer to those questions is : *CIA* And the explanation to the inefficacy of the War "Against" Drugs is: *CIA* and *Wall Street and Banksters.*
Lots of people defected and came back once they saw that the "workers Paradise" was a Communist dictatorship. It was part of the cold war struggle. People always needed financial assistance to return from the USSR, because the Soviets only let them take about $20 with them on the way out! The FBI and CIA knew that Lee and his wife were probably KGB spies, as indeed they were. That is why the FBI and CIA had files on Oswald and kept him under surveillance (Hosty, Paine, etc...) And you can be certain that Lee was no American infiltration agent, because he was the very first US Marine to defect to the USSR ☝️
I love the old kgb dude with a smirk the whole time essentially saying Oswald is an idiot
Yeah. It took him 4 years of living there to realize what we all already knew.
@@LynxStarAuto we already knew that Oswald was a KGB agent, along with his wife Marina and best friend George de Morenschildt 🇺🇸
He was an idiot.. lol.. And a double murderer..
@@kxkxkxkx Openly Marxists coming back to US with a Russian wife to be a KGB spy? Sounds like a good plan. And then kills the president of the US who was making piece with the Soviet Union and cutting money from the military and intelligence budget of the US. Where is the motive, there is no proof that he used the rifle in question and what was his plan of escape? Then another lunatic kills him before he could talk. Then by chance, another lone psycho kills Robert Kennedy. And again by some miracle no other president got killed after that because they all supported wars and the CIA.
*peace
Major omission regarding Oswalds time in Russia : where did Oswald learn Russian so good that his wife Marina when meeting Oswald for first time thought he was russian due to his speaking russian so well?? And at the height of the Cold War how was it that Oswald was allowed back into the US so easily after defecting to Russia from working at a top secret U2 base... as if he had just gone up to Canada for a holiday? Thats beyond strange.
Oswald was trained at the Monterey School Of Language in California when he was still in the Marines.
It's a true miracle of the cold war. A miracle only a CIA asset of EPIC PROPORTION could pull!!! lolololol! Hello?!? So obviously being handled and given a 'Russian bride' during the 'Cold War'. Unbelievable!
I literally just read in his diary that he was studying Russian for 8 hours a day.
i find it strangest of all, how millions of people still don't get that you can't trust the mainstream media, and even after something as bogus as 911 20 years ago.
And, allegedly, given the money to return from Russia...
I like hearing the older dude say "BOOM!...click, click", "BOOM!...click, click"
I want to see a show done about Jack Ruby. No one talks much about him, and one has to wonder why.
And you almost never see his brother 'Sam' who they claim is 'Jack' at the Dallas police Station on a couple of occasions. Jack shot 'Harvey' but Sam was used too. Jack's index finger was bitten off in a fight, Sam had all his fingers...
I believe Ruby killed Oswald to protect the Mob (which I think was involved). The question is why he would brazenly do that. I'd love to know why and what was he protecting. Perhaps he did it to protect others. This will always be the biggest question about the killings.
He was a mobster. And he worked for Richard Nixon, doing something that caused his testimony before the House Unamerican Activities Committee to be taken in secret executive session instead in front of the press like everyone else. He also lived two blocks from where Officer Tippit was murdered. Nothing to see here, folks.
Ruby alluded to powerful people who put him up to assassinating Oswald or forced him to and that the details would never be known. It's in a press conference. Ruby (conveniently for JFKs and RFK's enemies LBJ, Hoover and the mob) died of a fast acting cancer, something the CIA had been working on in the early 60's.
@@RenaissancManEng I think a cabal of the Mob, LBJ, Hoover, elements within the CIA and oil men killed JFK and Ruby was ordered to whack Oswald or he himself would be whacked.
i worked in restaurant supply and food delivery in DFW while in college from 1992 to 1997. I had weekly deliveries to the Dallas Jail using that same ramp that they show in this video. On timestamp 1:42:08 - notice that he walks down the ramp as he is trying to recreate the route that Jack Ruby took and the time it took him from western union to the back door of the jail where Ruby shot Oswald.
I can attest, truthfully, that it was EASY and ACHIEVEABLE to walk to the back door of the jail down that ramp because I did it in a delivery truck once a week for years without assistance from police or anyone else. That gate u see on that ramp was never closed during any of the times that I delivered, which was usually early morning around 9 AM ish.
So, what I am saying, is this. Conspiracy people who say that Jack Ruby must have been given some special access to the place where he shot Oswald are COMPLETELY WRONG. And, they do this because they have never been there in person.
Jack Ruby could have easily just walked right into the bottom basement area of the jail in Dallas because it is blocked off from the rest of the jail by doors that are locked inside the basement. But, the lower area is really just a garage area where people park their cars. This area is where Oswald was shot as he was being put into an awaiting car that was merely feet from where he was shot. Getting into the REAL PART OF THE JAIL requires either keys or badges or to get someone to open the door that leads into the jail. During my delivery times, there was a callbox there that i would have to use at the door in order to get someone to open it for me so I could use my dolly/handcart to deliver the food/restaurant supplies to the jail area.
Once in the jail, using the lower garage door, there is still no access to the rest of the jail unless u use the service elevator to go up. That also requires a key. So, the idea that the Dallas jail is easily accessible to anyone off the streets is FALSE and misleading in the Jack Ruby situation.
ONE: Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby in the basement outside the jail (not IN the jail. He was led out the jail by police/detectives while he was handcuffed), after he was lowered down in the service elevator and escorted out the bottom floor door and into the publicly accessed garage area of the basement (where a car would be waiting to drive him to wherever the detectives/police where taking him that day).
TWO: The length of the ramp that goes down into the basement/garage area is not very long...maybe 50 to 80 feet and the ramp curves to the right at the bottom after the area where the jail door sits (the basement/garage jail door is old and very thick like it's bulletproof and requires a key to open it) . The ramp levels out there and the road/ramp curves to the right (if you were to park in the basement, you would continue in your car to the right). The door is adjacent to the road/ramp at the curve and on the left as u walk down.
I am Saying, it is less than a few seconds to walk down the ramp and go left and be at the door where Oswald was shot. It would take someone only seconds to walk from the outside street, down the ramp, and be face to face with that door. And, as I said, there is a gate at the top of the ramp at the sidewalk/street area, but it is never closed that I have ever seen. There is a chain that has to be pulled on the left side of the ramp entrance which lowers or raises that gate (similar to what you see in a semi-truck delivery bay in a warehouse) and it disappears into the top when fully open.
I assume that this gate on the street leading into the ramp area was locked at night or overnight, but I was never there at those times. So, YES, the public had access to the ramp and lower basement/parking area of the jail. you could drive into it, or you could walk down the ramp as well. the lower garage area would only be inaccessible from the public if the gate was closed and locked using the chains and applying a pad lock. It closes similar to what you see in NYC shops that face the street...like a shutter door that rolls up and down and closes and has an area to be locked if you use a padlock on the chain to keep it from moving.
At time stamp 1:43:30 u can see the service elevator and how people gain access to it. I have walked through those halls (right where they are) hundreds of times. And, that counter there is almost always vacant. It had personnel/people working in it during the time of Oswald's being escorted out because it was such a big event going on in the Dallas Jail. Most of the time, that area is completely vacant with no one in it. It's really just a storage area and is closed off from the rest of the jail.
One last thing: People who aren't from Texas or don't live in the USA might not realize...in Texas, it used to be completely legal to have a gun, carry a gun, buy a gun, and shoot a gun in the 1960s. I grew up from 1970 to 1997 in Texas. Owning guns in Texas is not an uncommon situation (especially in the rural areas for hunting, etc.) Having grown up here, I would say that maybe 40 to 50 percent of the citizens of Texas own a gun, maybe more. And, at least 5% of Texans are fervent gun owners with a lot of guns and use them frequently to do various things (gun range, hunting, etc.)
Woah way too much common sense for this topic
Jack Ruby was framed, simple as that Jack....
@@michael-4k4000 what? There was a trial. And a video of the murder. Well, maybe 10 videos. How much more proof do you need that Jack ruby killed Oswald? Give me a freaking break.
Great insight! Thanks for that comment!
It's those informations that put that whole case to rest and show that big events don't always need big causes. Sometimes it's as simple as it seems.
So the cop who said there was no way Jack Ruby walked past him through the ramp was lying?
What a powerful statement. "In Dealey Plaza, it will ALWAYS be Nov.22, 1963"
I’m going there because I need to go. Everyone should try to see it.
One of my plans is to visit dealer plaza
@@johnwalker1250 not "dealer" plaza. I think that's where you go to score some drugs 😉
True. LBJ has a lot to answer for.
You get this sense of coldness when you go near Dealey Plaza.
Will never forget that aweful day. Friday morning in the library in an LA middle school I was 12.
I was five and remember watching Oswald's murder live on my grandparents TV.
I barely remember it, and I have a good memory. I was never a Kennedy fan, so I really didn't care!
The level of PTSD I'd suffer of I were in Jackie's shoes is ASTRONOMICAL!!! I'm all kinds of anxious just imagining it 😳 I would probably need a soft room & a huggy jacket! How was she so damn calm and/or poised after this?
Almost as if she knew it was coming
@@eljerc5894 No, you have no idea of what happens after such trauma. I witnessed an awful event. I was standing nearby. some people were screaming, but a lot of US just calmly walked ran to safety. We were in shock, but our reaction appeared to be calm. Days later, the reality hit me and I lost it. I was given sedatives to calm my terror, as was Jackie. One thing I took from that and a couple of less severe incidents, is that I remain calm during emergencies. My therapist taught me to celebrate that.
It's called shock that's how a person mentally deals with some traumas.
Drugs
Shock and fear......
I was in 6 grade when Kennedy was shot , our teacher was so upset they sent our class out to the playground ...Crazy how at that age an extra recess trumps anything that happens in the world .
we're the same age. I was exuberant that we were sent home from school. and then got several days off. I was in 6th grade too.
@@suzyQ1999 pussys, I didn't get an extra recess for 9, 11
Back in my day folks flew 7-47 into the trade towers and went to fucking school the next day. The inheritors were soft.
@@hwwwarrior90 You forgot to mentioned 7-47 hit the Pentagon too lol
I listened to this while playing a round of golf and I was way more interested in this than my crappy round. Really well done.
Hilarious ⛳️
Golf sucks ngl
I could listen to that narrator talk about 19th century Peruvian railroads. He really sells...
From Nigeria with love.
Frontline is an amazing gift to mankind. ❤
Indeed!
As more research is done on serial killers, mass murderers, assassins, etc. the trend of a disconnected childhood appears. Children growing up with no sense of family or belonging, especially ones that are consistently told they are an unwanted burden, are emotionally bankrupt. They imitate others socially to fit in, but they’re basically high functioning sociopaths…
Some monsters are born, but rarely. Nearly all of them are made. Sad.
Fascinating subject ... It's like a "perfect storm" consisting of neurological, psychological and sociological disorders.
In other words, a born psychopath with a neurobiological deficiency and abusive childhood. There's often a psychosexual, predatory and degradation component, and a lust for power and control. Combine everything and you have the potential for a serial killer.
@@ccrider4516it's not one single thing. There are neurological, psychological and sociological components.
It’s borderline personality disorder. The borderline smirk. The mood swings, rages. Present from childhood. Men with borderline are poorly understood, and behind some of the worst impulsive crimes.
It’s amazing how much footage there was of him prior to the so called assassination. You don’t see this with other assassins, they are loners and fly under the radar .. LHO was everywhere and on everyone’s radar
It's not amazing, Oswald was already famous - the very first US Marine to defect to the Soviet Union!
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It's not amazing, Oswald was already famous- the first US Marine to defect to the Soviet Union! Back in 1959, just four years before he shot JFK
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Oswald was a KGB agent, recruited in Japan and trained in Russia and given a KGB wife 🇺🇸
Oswald was everywhere because he was ordered to by his "handlers" who wanted to set him up for JFK'S assassination. That includes going to Russia as part of the False Defector Program that was run by the CIA and military intelligence. Oswald DID NOT assassinate JFK or policeman Tippit. End of story.
@@kxkxkxkx Oswald wasn't the first Marine to Defect to Russia
Oswald had very little video or audio of himself. In fact, if you go back the killing of Abraham Lincoln you will see he had more public documentation. When he shot Lincoln just about everyone in the Theater knew who he was.
The incompetence of the Dallas police in allowing people access to him is astounding.
Agree. It’s totally baffling that they wouldn’t say “we need to ensure he stays alive as he KNOWS why or something”. How they could not foresee something like Ruby is…unexplainable to anyone with common sense
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The FBI and CIA took over.
seriously
@@Steady_Valium_ awe look at that, Used up your entire IQ in one go. Next time pace yourself.
WOW...never heard all this before and have watched many documentaries on this subject.
Most documentaries of the Kennedy Assassination are produced solely to make money by rehashing old data & crackpot theories.
By far the best documentary on the Kennedy assassination. Just proven facts, no theories or conjecture.
Frontline ultimately ends up supporting a narrative that a lone gunman shot a Police Officer and the President of the United States....
There has not been one Newspaper or Television Media Outlet that mentions any information that there were Mafia, CIA & FBI ties back in 1963 and that the murder of a policeman & the president was by no one other than Oswald....
It's sad that there was a Coup D'etat in America and with the help of the media, it was never followed....
Remember this. The Bigger The Conspiracy, The Muddier The Water...
you ain't seen much have you ? gullible is more like it.
@@brianbaird1503 Even if you wear tinfoil hats and believe wackjob theories, this is a fine documentary. The editing, archival footage, narration, interviews, score, are top notch.
@@brianbaird1503 Said the 🐑
There was a conspiracy in the JFK Assassination. Not a theory a fact. For that I have no doubt.
It’s really weird when a major historical event took place in your home town and you used to just walk your dog there on a daily basis.
I’m an Army recruiter, and I go there (dealy plaza) a few times a week, for MEPS. I also think it’s interesting that something so historical happened so close.
It's not. Historical events have happened almost everywhere, we just don't know all of them.
Thank you PBS for allowing people to watch this. Excellent production. The narrator is exceptional.
I agree.. The narrator was truly exceptional. Do you know the name of the narrator? Thanks:) His voice reminds me of the guy who did the FBI files and the one who did the Air Force One documentary on the history channel long ago. Just really good..
@@GuilfordGardenCT He is Will Lyman and he is exceptional isn't he. I think also investigators Gus Russo and Scott Malone did a great job on this.
@@DanC-go9lc Thank you soo much and just looked him up haha. Please have a good weekend and I agree with you thus, so are Gus and Scott.
The great Will Lyman, narrator of Frontline episodes for many, many years. A tremendous voice talent.
Don't forget to thank all the conspiracy "theorists" in the comment section for all their helpful input.
A topic that continues to enthrall. PBS Frontline does great work.
Truth is stranger than fiction. Amazing documentary.
They used to make great shows like this one !!! I miss those days.
Now we watch reality shows that's really not reality
If more people donated to PBS they could make more/better shows. Would be interesting to see how donation declines may contribute to lesser quality shows... pretty sure a lot of people who used to donate to PBS now give their $ to Netflix, HULU, HBO, etc.
@@ResearchNational I don't give money to PBS anymore. I have Serious XM radio and I don't even listen to NPR anymore nor do I give them money
This special Frontline aired in 1993 was originally divided into 3 parts (all aired the same night) and was about 3 hours long. I wish PBS had that version uploaded instead of this truncated version.
+ShiksaWithChutzpah You do know that Shiksha is a highly derogatory word, don't you? I once thought shiksa was a harmless enough word believing it merely meant "gentile female" - but it's much worse than that.
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The full version is on RUclips, though the audio isn’t great
Also this upload alters the original aspect ratio so the whole thing is a zoomed in version of the original film
@@jofuf hi. Can u send me the link of it?
Thank you
If you want a real sense of history...go to dallas, and stand in front of the book depository...regardless of how you feel about this entire situation, time feels like it has stood still ever since
It has stood still and the world will never get over it until the truth is acknowledged. The Oswald did it alone Garbage is an insult to everyone. Except the mindless cretins who promote it.
Dealey plaza seems like an outdoor movie set/ museum..
I bet in 50 years or so they will charge admission too see it.
The woke community will call it racist and misogynist. Just wait .
@@roberthouston3809 The TSBD might feel like a movie set to those who know more about Oliver Stone than they do JFK.
To those of us who lived thru that shocking and agonizing day, Dealey Plaza is about the most humbling, haunted and REAL place in the USA.
We went to Dealey Plaza about 15 years ago. It was so unreal standing there, on the X, in the middle of the street. My heart was so heavy. I wasn't even born when JFK was killed, but being there in that place affected me greatly. I didn't even go into the school book depository. I couldn't.
Watching Frontline PBS documentaries -- i.e. experiencing their research, perspectives, and narratives -- gives the same breathtaking experience as reading those incredibly-written, esteemed non-fiction literary or investigative journalism books which go on to be shortlisted for, or win, renowned recognitions like the Pulitzer prizes and such.
I was utterly shocked to find out after watching this documentary that so much about Oswald was very well documented already well before the Kennedy assassination.
Absolutely loved every minute of this one as well!
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Today(2021) it seems that there are a million Oswalds wandering around looking for trouble.
what
@@conzmoleman he meant there are bunch of brainwashed young lunatics who support socialism nowadays.
@@Goldhead88 And also a lot of brainwashed anti-establishment lunatics.
@@christophermanley3602 I don’t know what that means. I know what socialism means though.
We're gonna drown in blood.
That JFK's motorcade would pass directly by the building where Oswald was already working, indicates how unseen forces shape human events.
@Music I don't think the CIA has any role in picking motorcade routes, although their relationship with Oswald may never be fully known.
@@aDistantLight I'm making no conclusions at all. I speculate that the CIA has NO ROLE in picking the motorcade route, why would they? If you think they do, let's hear it. If in fact they did, that would throw more light on an agency that usually tries to work in the shadows. The book depository job was brought to Oswald's attention by a family friend. My original comment, that unseen forces shape HUMAN events, should have told you that I was referring to things that are not of this world.
@@raywest3834 unseen human forces also shape events
In this case: the KGB and DGI
@@aDistantLight As I understand it,it was Ruth Paine that was instrumental in getting LHO the job at the TSBD...she was a CIA contract agent along with her husband who was a big noise at Bell Helicopters...also,its alleged that at Dallas Police HQ,LHO was asked about the green Nash Rambler he was supposedly seen jumping into immediately after the shooting ..he slams the desk and says 'that car belongs to Mrs Paine,dont try and drag her into this '.
@@aDistantLight THere was no way Oswald's job at the depository could have been planned by the CIA. Ruth Payne heard from a neighbor that there might be an opening there and called them, and told Lee, and Lee liked the idea he would be working with books.
This is the goddamndest most incredible story I've ever heard. If you made it up, no one would believe you.
No doubt in my mind Lee acted alone. No mob.
Shout out to PBS..... for putting out GREAT CONTENT!!! Thank you
Thanks for the testimony as I saw it was 2 hours long but wanted to pick a documentary. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I lost count on how many documentaries I have watched. This contains details I never seen before. Keep it coming!
That's because most documentaries are conspiracy theories that leave out facts or have outright lies (JFK). Another good documentary is Kennedy Assassination: Beyond Conspiracy.
@@timplays6602 Watch Oliver Stone's new JFK Revisited. Nothing left of The Warren Report after that one. Now just wait till the 4 hour version.
@@vernpascal1531 Given Stone packed more lies (at least forty that I counted) into his fantasy film of 1991, you'll forgive me if I'm not inclined to put any faith in what that guy has to say now.
@@vernpascal1531 Stone is in the movie business to make movies people want to see. The truth of all this would make a boring ass movie.
@@vernpascal1531 There is no need to see a Hollywood movie about the assassination of JFK because there is enough footage of the principal people involved in the consequences of the event speaking their own words rather than movie stars pretending to be them.
Thanks FRONTLINE. Informative and so touching
The smirk on the face after Oswald learnt about presidents death in the police station was sickening.
I think it was a smirk of “I can’t believe these bastards (cia) framed me
You miss read the smirk. He had just realized that the last number of years of his life was a setup.(Patsy)
Watch this and Oliver Stone's "JFK Revisited: Through The Looking Glass" in quick succession and you will be extremely disoriented.
Yea JRE sent me here too lol
Mainstream media is and always will be the enemy of the people, nothing more than lackeys for big brother
@@Boston_420 Funny then isn't it that "the people", the simple ordinary folks were the ones whose testimony, eye witness accounts and alertness were the ones got Lee Harvey Oswald caught. Bonnie Ray Williams, Wesley Frazier, Johnny Brewer, Amos Euins, Earlene Roberts, William Whaley, W.W.Scoggins, Jack Tatum, Ted Calloway to name a few.
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Oliver stones movie was heavily doctored by the cia sadly it’s not worth watching
I met June Oswald Porter, Lee's oldest daughter. She's now in her early 60's and is willing to talk, but not on the record. Why? her kids still get threats! America will never let this go nor will they ever get it solved. It's gonna be one of those Stonehenge mysteries.
yep
I was just wondering about her
1. Lee Harvey Oswald owned the rifle found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. An ID card in his wallet had A Hidell’s name. The same name that Klein’s in Chicago shipped the rifle to his Post Office box in Dallas.
2. Oswald owned the handgun that was used in the murder of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit.
3. Oswald was identified by witness Howard L. Brennan as the person firing a rifle at JFK .
4. Marina Oswald admits to having taken pictures of Lee with these weapons in the back yard photos. The negatives of the pictures were taken with Oswald’s camera.
5. Buell Wesley Frazier observed Oswald take a package into the Book Depository Building the morning of the assassination.
6. Oswald's claim of "curtain rods" in the package was bull shit. Oswald room already had curtains.
7. Oswald was working on the Depository's sixth floor that morning. LHO was the only one left on the 6th floor after everyone else left for lunch.
8. Oswald’s palm print and finger prints were on his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle after the assassination.
9. "A.J. Hidell" was actually Oswald himself; and the order form from Klein's Sporting Goods to purchase the rifle was positively proven to have been in Oswald's handwriting, and sent to a Dallas post-office box that was used by him. Oswald had a photo ID of himself with the name
A. J. Hidell in his wallet when he was arrested.
10. Not ONE SPECK of any bullets/bullet fragments/bullet shells OTHER THAN THOSE COMING FROM OSWALD'S 6.5-MILLIMETER MANNLICHER-CARCANO RIFLE were discovered anywhere in Dealey Plaza, the limousine, the TSBD, Parkland Hospital, or in the victims
11. The majority of Dealey Plaza witnesses said shots came from behind the President, in the direction of the School Book Depository Building. In addition, an even larger percentage of witnesses said they heard EXACTLY three shots fired. No more, no less. And three spent shells (so-incidentally?) were found in the Sniper's Nest.
12. EVERY SINGLE ONE (if not 100%) of the newsmen and reporters riding in the motorcade in Dealey Plaza, who were in a position to immediately report the shooting to the world via media outlets (radio, television, and newswire services), heard EXACTLY THREE SHOTS FIRED.
13. Oswald makes an unusual trip to Irving on Thursday, November 21, 1963, to retrieve his "curtain rods". His rifle is found missing from Ruth Paine's garage. Some curtain rods, which Mrs. Paine testified she DID have in her garage prior to the assassination (via 1986 questioning of her by Vincent Bugliosi during the TV Docu-Trial "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald"), were STILL IN HER GARAGE AFTER NOVEMBER 22.
14. Oswald left behind his wedding ring and $170 for Marina on the morning of 11/22/63
15. Oswald, in flight, shoots and kill Dallas patrolman J.D. Tippit on 10th Street in the Dallas suburb of Oak Cliff. Multiple witnesses confirm it was Oswald who shot Officer Tippit.
16. Oswald attempted to murder retired General Edwin Walker in Dallas, on April 10, 1963.
17. Oswald could have indeed traveled, in 90 seconds or less, the distance across the sixth floor of the TSBD and descended the four flights of stairs in time to have been seen by policeman Marrion L. Baker on the building's second floor. Oswald was guilty as hell. That's where he is now.
Stop it already. Don't you know I'm a delusional conspiracy clown wanting to believe any crock the hucksters have put out there.
Even though every single one of these points are true and factual John, good luck convincing any closed-minded conspiracy patsy to even CONSIDER any of them as even relevant. To them everything, all the evidence is fabricated, planted, exaggerated or just a flat-out lie, ALL part of the massive "cover-up." They ignore all testimony from simple common folks (with no books to sell) such as Wesley Frazier, Howard Brennan, Earlene Roberts, Jack Tatum, Harold Norman and Johnny Brewer. I believe that Robert Oswald, who agonized over this for 55 years till his death in 2018, had it exactly right.
excellent. you laid it all out. but it's impossible to convince those that deny the evidence.
one more.. the revolver that was recovered on oswald was proven to have fired the shots that killed officer Tippett
Not sure how many people actually WATCH this with an open mind --- in my humblest of opinions, this has been the BEST investigation/documentary ever done. I am by no means a fan of the current PBS biased reporting, but believe this (completed in 1993) is very excellent. Think whatever you want but they researched TF out of this.
Plus IF you have ever REALLY been to surprisingly small Dealey Plaza -- then you too know "In Dealey Plaza it IS ALWAYS NOVEMBER 22, 1963."
PBS isn't biased. Today's Republican Party is just that bad. That isn't PBS's fault.
@@easternyellowjacket276 We are not talking about your version of the Republican party here -- talking about what a great PBS Investigation this was in 1993.
Is crazy how some people want to turn everything into an infantile political pissing contest. BYE.
@@DanC-go9lc The Republican Party is a disaster. Fear mongering disaster. I have no problems being proud of the fact that I most definitely voted for Biden/Harris. Trump was a disaster.
Lee's brother took an honest approach about the situation.
Sad the mother was a crazy parent
V99...TOTALLY !!....EPIC !!.... a scary woman for sure !!
It has been 58 years now! Probably the most studied murder case in the world! I wonder if they will know any more, from advancing technology by 2063!
No technology needed, the facts have been clear for 60 years now.
We just need the FBI and the CIA to stop covering for the KGB 🇺🇸
@@kxkxkxkx . Why would the CIA and the FBI cover for the KGB?
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Hush
@@faharoon357 Great Pakistan!
@@babagandu . ???
The fact Ruby was friends with the cops, was in the station Fri night and just happened to be at the right place at the right time Sun, down to the minute, PROVES someone tipped him off....
That's what the HSCA said. Their report concluded Ruby had help in shooting Oswald.
Ruby had both mob AND government ties. He "suddenly" went insane while being held and seen ALONE with1 Dr who was in on MK Ultra and the hippie movement in San Francisco..
@@vernpascal1531 "Their report concluded Ruby had help in shooting Oswald." Like hell it did.
"PROVES someone tipped him off....": Like hell it does, lol.
sir, you think all this is just luck then I wont be able to lead the horse you are to water....@@peterfraser9070
These pbs documentarys are the best Honestly! T
Lol that voice reading out his letters 😂😂 sounds like that weird guy that gets obsessed with Elaine in Seinfeld
Oh man that's true 😂. Mr tv guide bouquet
There are just too many coincidences here. Any one of them could be easily explained away, but the sheer number of coincidences would make anyone suspicious that there is something extraordinary going on here.
9/11 was what made me realize the scale of corruption, i then looked into as many major American events as possible and none of them add up.
@@TheKillermike83: I grew up in the '60s (born in 1953) and these assassinations seemed almost normal to me. Even as a teenager I knew something sketchy was going on.
Besides the most famous assassinations, there were dozens, if not hundreds of "lesser" assassinations going on. Any anti-establishment figure who showed a potential for leadership was either killed, discredited or imprisoned. It is my opinion that this is why we haven't had a real revolution in the country even though our government & business leaders are thoroughly corrupt. Any other society would have already brought out the guillotine.
I may or may not be correct & this is just an opinion.
@@raydavison4288 during the Cold War there was a very active covert war of assassination between the KGB and CIA. The "third option" besides diplomacy and military conflict...
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I was 7 years old. My father abruptly sat up in his chair and shouted; They shot him! They shot him! Son of b***h ! They shot him ! and yelled to my mother in the kitchen; Bea, they shot Kennedy! I remember the hushed, somber feeling that prevailed all around for weeks following the assassination. JFK was the promise of the future of America, and now that promise was dead. America lost her Prince and Camelot that day. And the American people were collectively and openly dubious about their government and have been ever since. All these years later questions remain. That in itself says a lot. 🤔
I'd almost bet a paycheck that your Dad was thinking it was the Soviets or the Cubans.
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No, not at all. And if you watch interviews of the people who were there just to see the president no one ever even mentions the possibility of Cubans or Soviets being involved. It was a whole different mindset. Our government speculated, but never accused either government. It wasn't the charged, polarized political atmosphere like today. There was even speculation that the "mob" had put out a hit on him.
@@geoben1810 Is your Father still alive to ask? I read that Johnson was sure that Castro did it and that Castro was sure Johnson did it.
I'm way more inclined to believe that elements of organized crime put Oswald up to it than elements of the US government did.
As I've said before Booth, Guiteau, Czolgosz, Hinkley, "Squeaky" Fromme, Schrank, and Torresola, all shot and killed or attempted to shoot and kill American Presidents. The only conspiracy was the ones they cooked up themselves.
MOSSAD and the KGB are two agencies we are very, very sure have killed their enemies and one method they NEVER use is a sniper because it is too uncontrollable. Imagine Oswald missed slightly and ended up hitting Jackie in the face, blinding and horrifically disfiguring her while only grazing JFK. Some conspiracy now!
The whole idea of the CIA/Military-industrial conspiracy is, to me, absurd, no matter how much Oliver Stone one watches. If "they" wanted him out of the White House in '64 all they would have to do is leak information about Kennedy's partying with floosies in that same White House, his dependency on back medicine, and his mob ties. The electorate then was not as forgiving as it is now.
I think Oswald acted alone, out of his own self aggrandizement, seeing himself as some kind of world heroic figure of justice. He was an element of chaos.
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No, my father has been gone over 20years now. I don't remember him ever expressing an opinion as to who he thought was behind it. As to LBJ and Castro, of course they would suspect each other. I forgot about the CIA being suspect, presumably because JFK was having doubts about being involved in Vietnam. And the mob hit theory was because he appointed RFK as AG. And why did Ruby kill Oswald? I saw that on T.V. when it happened. So now the only two people who could answer all the questions are long dead and the the doubts remain. But I do think Oswald acted completely on his own. Oh don't forget about the mysterious man on the grassy knoll And there was supposedly another man on the overpass. It's all the unanswered questions that lead to all the conspiracy theories. The magic bullet....
I think it was the shock of losing the promise of the future that JFK represented. Americans couldn't understand why.... or who would want to kill that promise.
You should have been in school at the time..
Why don't they show the footage where Oswald is in front if the press and has still no idea why he was arrested. A photographer ask him why he did it and Oswald is saying "they say I shot a police man but I didn't do anything" and the photographer tells him "no Sir, you're here because they say you shot the President!!! Oswald was clearly shocked!!! This footage should be in a 2 hour documentary!
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"Oswald was clearly shocked!!!" LOL. Did you expect Oswald to say he was a pitiful un-hinged lil wife-abusing nobody Marxist anarchist who despised America and capitalism -- and craved attention, making a name for himself the easy cowardly way -- by Killing President Kennedy and then Officer Tippit ??? Do you know ANYTHING about Oswald ? That wife-beating curtain-rod toting woe-is-me patsy.
...and then it hit him...."oh...so I'm the patsy!!!"
Asked point blank on live TV if he shot the President, Oswald doesn't scream a tearful denial, doesn't beg protection for his family, doesn't make the slightest attempt to blurt out anything about any conspiracy, and instead just shrugs a hollow, rambling reply that all but dodges the question and complains the cop he was caught red-handed trying to shoot had the nerve to hit him.
Someone called the cops because someone slipped into a movie theater without paying? Not tell the manager or staff? Now that unbelievable 🤨
Slipping into a movie theater without a ticket at that time must have been considered a big crime....
@@alfredoibarra4592 And it's hilariously apparent that you actually think your comment made some kinda big time point? 🤭🤣
I'm sure it did in Trump/Alex Jones world where Trump pulled out his little shriveled-up pink dict-atorship and indecently exposed that he's indeed the world's greatest grifter and simpleton-kook-magnet.
Imagine being so deranged that you start whining about Trump in random RUclips comment sections.
Really bad dose of TDS.
I'm sure you're clever not.
@@ilovebeinggay6794 Check out the original posters page, she's the trumptard!
PBS frontline makes the best documentaries. Well written and the gentleman who does the voice over is outstanding. I also recommend their podcasts too. Top notch
except they are always on the side of the status quo/government. Is Oswald really the one that needs investigating at this point? How about the CIA? How about the shot that came from the grassy knoll?
@@Skipbo000 Frontline frequently is on the side of what is hidden. If they investigated this and say there was no evidence of a shot from the grassy knoll, and no mention of the CIA, it's because they investigated and that was what they found. But people keep inventing stories because that's what people want to do about this crime.
@@eameece to keep suggesting that Oswald was the only gunman, as this piece does, is a denial of the facts. It is also well known that the FBI was well aware of who Oswald was before the assassination ever happened, a fact that was conveniently omitted. Any suggestion that the government had something to do with killing JFK was avoided. Frontline is always willing to seek out bad players, but is never willing to take on big topics like government corruption and will never go anywhere near anything that is considered a "conspiracy theory." In fact they are more ready to ridicule anything outside of the status quo rather than investigate it for any merit. It is what is wrong with the media in general. They take the government's story and go from there, never questioning the story itself. A DC organization themselves, they don't want to be the ones calling leaders liars. They accept what they say at face value. This is what's always wrong with Frontline.
@@Skipbo000 No, BO! There are no facts about any other gunmen; only some speculation and unproven rumors. And even if there was another gunman behind the grassy knoll, he had no possible connection to Oswald who fired the fatal shot. Yes, authorities had Oswald on file; they were just not able or willing to track him strictly enough and thought he wasn't dangerous enough. There is no need for an investigation of the JFK assassination to claim that the government had something to do with it, if there's no facts to support such a claim-- and there aren't any. And Frontline often does indeed explose government corruption, but no, it does not depend on kooky conspiracy theories. Anyone using half a brain and any critical thinking knows such theories today are false, including the granddaddy of them all: the JFK conspiracy theories. It is YOU folks promoting conspiracy theory today who are upholding the status quo, big time, led by the conspiracy theorist in chief, and you ought to know who THAT is, and which Party he leads.
good job. i'm a bit hung up on the weather wind reports for that day and the behavior of the arterial spray, and the velocity of the car at the time, very interesting stuff, thank you
lol what are you going on about? You aint gettting anyhting else from that 8mm film at 1:24:24
if he was not a person of some interest before Nov 63, if he was poor, if he was a loner - WHERE did all this footage of him come from? why all these videos of him long before Nov 63? What would be the point if he was just a regular guy with a couple adjustment issues? like, WHO was the camera person, on these various days in various locations. its just seems wild that there would be all this footage of him, like where and why?
@tricie79 it’s not true that LHO was not a person of some interest. He was subject to questioning and some degree of surveillance by the FBI prior to the JFK assassination, which is not surprising given his background.
In addition, LHO actively sought publicity, and he was somewhat successful in it, most notably as a result of his 1963 “fair play for Cuba” committee demonstration in New Orleans.
I've been watching and reading stuff on the assassination for 30 years. I haven't a clue what happened.
Exactly
I have always found that asking who benefited from an event is often a good direction to understanding who was behind that event.A good rule of thumb in most cases.
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 sure but was Oswald CIA? Then there's Tippit and Ruby. It's all very odd.
Then don't go down the rabbit hole. Oswald killed JFK, period. The rest is the stuff of legendary dime store fictional horror.
@@user6008 So you believe in the magic bullet??
The whole world changed the day my 3rd grade teacher was pulled out of our classroom and returned white as a ghost and shaking. She had to make an announcement to 30 innocent children. An entire generation of American kid's lives were shaped by this moment.
Yes and it was a 100 times worse than what t was believed at the time. You don't recover from a Coup that's not acknowledged.
30:58 I lived in that house. The woman on the corner had a daughter that used to talk to LHO. When he came back from Russia he lived with his brother a couple of blocks away from my house.
And did she tell you something about him?
@@ldwgrcd2444 He was a kid then. Nothing unusual.
@@ldwgrcd2444 He was uncut.
As usual the PBS program FRONTLINE does an excellent job of what it's topic happens to be.
Yeah , but they " buy " the LHO cover story completely, and it's wrong.....
Absolut true ...great report could not stops watching and learned about the whole Mexico visit controversy
@@rawgab4439 WHETHER OR NOT that was the real or bogus LHO in Mexico city during this time is almost irrelevant- what IS RELEVANT is that this entire incident was being staged as part of the quirky Oswald cover story to be presented following JFK's murder: another nail in the circumstantial evidence coffin for LHO.....
High marks to the narrator. He is a master of creating an atmosphere of mystery and dread. Only, no mystery here. Oswald killed JFK. American complacency is to blame. Same story behind 9/11, COVID-19, and Pearl Harbor.
@@skunkygrogan6956 Terribly sorry ...do not understand your point
People never seem to mention HOW BRAVE AND LOVING HIS WIFE WAS. SHE INSTANTLY CRADLED HIM THE CLIMBED OUT ONTO THE BAck to block further shots. No one mentions this. She would have taken those bullets. .. very sad. Very brave lady.
Yes!
She didn't crawl onto the trunk to block further shots. She crawled onto the trunk to retrieve pieces of his skull.
you talking about Jackie? She didn't climb out to block further shots. She climbed out in sheer terror! It was the secret service men that directed her to climb back down. It was a split of a second. No one was clear on what to do. The least of all, Jackie. None-the-less, she put on a brave face after the fact & remained noble thru-out for a nation to grief.
She climbed out to grab two pieces of brain, one in each hand
‘People never seem to mention’ what are you talking about. Much us said about her bravery and her countenance in the aftermath. Like she is a legend for that and her pink suit.
There's something about Lee Harvey Oswald's face that always looked unfinished.
Some people think they 2 boys using same ID as a govt. Defector program. 1 called Lee & other called Harvey. That why lot photos are very strange looking.
ya, definitely something "off" in that face, also, wonder about if he maybe had too much mkultra acid?
he never got to get a covid 19 mask.
I always thought he was good looking
@@Houndini anybody who thinks that is wrong and Stoopid
I was so guilty when they were explaining his character, like "why does he sound like me?" Lol
William Lyman has to be the best narrator ever.
He is...the most interesting man in the world.
Love his voice. He brings documentaries to life.
For those who may be curious I sent an email to Frontline today to find out what was taken out of the original 1993 version for the 2013 version and WHY ? The 1993 version was nearly 3 hours, while the 2013 version less than 2 hours. I feel the 1993 version was far better, more in depth, more balanced and interesting, and investigated seriously and openly many more leads and avenues. Doubt they will reply but who knows --- will follow-up post either way. UPDATE --- I synced and viewed the 1993 vs. the 2013 version and posted what I could find was deleted at the bottom of this thread on March 9, 2022.
I would be very curious about this too, and would like to see the missing content.
Interesting.
Any news?
@@psy-op1201 Hello, no news back from Frontline yet on my question. I sent the email Jan. 5 so just 4 days ago. However I have already received 4 generic emails from them saying Welcome, promoting their upcoming Frontlines, thanking me for subscribing (which I did not do), and thanking me for my generous donation (which I did not give). So we will see.
I would love to hear what they say. Thank u for contacting them
Dallas police had a lot to answer for regarding their handling of Oswald. They couldn't have given Ruby a better opportunity.
Ruby knew those police officers, he welcomed in his club, would serve him one day so they did.
They’ve been corrupt for years
Always thought it ever made sense
Sometimes strange how famous or infamous people seem to always have vintage home footage of themselves. I grew up in the eighties when home video was still yet a popular thing at least not by my middle-class family standards. If I were to become famous I don't think you could find much if any at all home video of my childhood. Which is rather sad to me
I don't find it strange really, those types of people are usually full of their own self importance, makes sense that seeing themselves on screen would be something they liked to see, especially attention seekers like Oswald and his Mother.
I was born 83 and there is little video evidence (one video of me as newborn on super 8 taken by my grandfather) of my existence until I was about 12 I think this is because 8mm movie cameras that were so popular in Oswalds time where all but phased out and the video cameras that replaced them were expensive (and the size of a small bus) so my cinematic life picks up in the mid 90s when they were cheaper and more practical.
I find it strange because if he did actually do it.. Why did he say he didn't? Surely he would take credit for it, as we see with the photos of him and his gun he looks like he's proud.. Something doesn't add up, like he doesn't seem like a guy who would be able to pull that off anyway.. I really do think the photos of him are photoshopped and that he was not guilty at all, that's why he was killed-so he couldn't stand trial, he would expose the government or whoever actually did it, he's sort of a perfect scapegoat because he learned Russian and was sort of a loner who owned a gun. Idk maybe that's a hot take but it's interesting to talk about.
@@RealParadoxed ...... Though proud he may have been, guilty though he was. Its not that hard to understand why even a proud presidential assassin would try and deny such a thing. He was more than just a man with a gun he was a trained skilled marksman with a political chip on his shoulder that was weighing heavy on his mental health more &more each day. His wife was Russian. He went to Russia and studied Russian politics. He was in support of Cuba, Two countries which were infamously highly controversial rivals with JFK almost directly. And why did Oswald blatantly shoot and kill a police officer just a few maybe only a couple hours after the assinnation..... I mean come on. Oswald reminds me a lot of another political amateur extremists named Timothy McVeigh. It all kinda seems to add up in my opinion.
@@RealParadoxed Oswald (and his mother) were entitled A-Holes who thought they were smarter than everyone else and never took responsibility for anything their entire lives, honestly I would be more suspicious if he did take credit, because it would be the only time he behaved out of character in the whole event. If you are a bit on the fence about the JFK assassination I highly recommend Case Closed by Gerald Posner, the audiobook is on YT for free. Reclaiming History by Vincent Bugliosi is better but a bit more long winded and harder to find (for free at least)
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If Oswald immediately confessed, he was as good as in the electric chair as a cowardly murderer. If he denied it, he could hopefully spin this out for a long time and be in his own sad mind Mr. Big Shot. It's hard to say what exactly he was thinking because he was so warped.
Extensive investigation of the photos over the years have found no evidence of fakery and in any case Oswald's wife confirmed he had her take the photos, they are real and he proudly showed them off to people.
Even if Oswald was the lone gunman and he was the only one to get off three shots and kill JFK, that still does not mean there was no conspiracy.
But it does mean it is not likely. Occam's razor
@@snow4days How is that?
@georgiaman1926: The absence of evidence of a conspiracy cannot be turned into evidence for a conspiracy.
The right people can hide the evidence and we are dealing with the right people here.
@@georgiaman1926 The evidence doesn't exist because the "right people" hid it? That statement explores the depths within the category of paranoid, unfounded claptrap. Perhaps a few more twists to your tin-foil hat will set you aright.
Incredibly many details were given, thank You!.... unfortunately a lot was left out...
Yup. Unless you read and understand Lone Star Speaks Zachry, Honest Answers Palamara, JFK And The Unspeakable Douglas and the new book of the 2 documentaries by Oliver Stone you don't know a damn thing about the Assassination.
it amazes me how people are so quick to actually thank the program Frontline for proving Oswald acted alone...it is very cleverly done. The documentary throws evidence of connections with organized crime right in the face, then at the end it's....leave it to rest...even if the words spoken are by someone else. The final word therefore is....let it rest..forget about questioning what might have or not have happened.
I'm only saying people are so quick to believe a tv program. That tv program is Frontline, that is owned by a venture capital corporation. it's like, pbs tells the truth without question....people are easily led. If there's ever lies in the tales of history...it's perpetuated easily by revisionist history. it goes on and on and on.
@@heaven7360 ppl were quick to believe Oliver Stone's JFK was factual. There was no conspiracy in the assassination and Stone's film JFK is a propagandist film and yet ppl believe it to be true that Oswald was a patsy.. Are freaking kidding me? Oswald was no patsy just a crazed, dangerous communist
This is better than a movie
Wow
I'm very impressed.
I guess bullshit really impresses you.
How in the hell do so many people tell detailed stories about having met a man decades previously, in some cases in very ordinary circumstances. I swear some people just want to make themselves part of the story. I can barely remember who I met last month, let alone decades back. 🤦♂️
all I can say is I can remember most things in my life with clear detail so if you can't then I suggest you find the switch to your brain and turn it on
@Liberty family so the lives of celebrities and the BS that Hollywood churns out is responsible for my less than enriched life? I thought it was bad acting politicians and less than intelligent people blaming each other instead of blaming the government. Caring more about a Target than human lives, being willfully ignorant of the struggles of ALL our neighbors... Not just the ones we let in our homes.
I think if something that consequential happened in your life, you would remember things surrounding it. I was robbed at gunpoint (they killed the next person they robbed that night) and I remember EVERYTHING including the time on the dashboard clock and the way one of the guy's ears stuck out.
@@chadmcvicker935 In your case it's easy for you to remember things you've done in your life. There's only been 2 or 3 of them if you count learning to flush the toilet and wipe yourself.
@@chadmcvicker935 You think you can but it's not the case. Memories are completely unreliable and there have actually been studied cases of people being tricked into "remembering" things that never happened. I suggest you worry less about that switch, and more about educating yourself on how memory works before you start throwring baseless drivel around the internet.
My name is John Fitzgerald Kennedy and I approve this message.
7:00 "spent his days at public libraries and museums"....by todays standards that's not unusual, like kids who spend their days blogging, gaming or on their phones. In other words he was your classic nerd, not a criminal type. Scary that it was as if he was time transported from 2020 to 1960. He had just turned 20 when he went to Russia and turned 24 around November 1963. This was a kid, not a sophisticated adult.
Lee was a smart kid but also an orphan with a crazy part-time mom living in poverty.
That is why he became a committed Communist and why Fidel Castro was his hero ☝️ and that is why the KGB was able to recruit him in Japan and why he moved to Russia
The most important assassination in modern history but we’ve never heard what he said in his police interview ,
Yea that is weird to say the least
@@anthonymurphy1406 a mafia goomba just waltzed into the police station and whacked the most important suspect in American history before he could confess- in front of about two dozen cops, whose only job at that moment was to keep that suspect alive. This is after the president gets shot during a parade in broad daylight... And the suspect supposedly gets away on foot.
@@anthonymurphy1406 remember that Donald Trump and Joe Biden both agree! We can't release those files or it will endanger "NATIONAL SECURITY". WHO YOU VOTING FOR NEXT TIME?
Probably the same thing every murderer says. It wasn’t me 🙄
@@stevemill8959 Exactly. :)
I was 11 years old when all of this happened. It is as fresh in my mind as it was that overcast day in November of 1963.
No it isn't. Scientifically impossible. Stop lying.
I was 10. I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing. I was in 5th grade class, and I heard the announcement over the intercom that said that the President had been shot. About a half hour later, they announced that the President had been killed. The world just seemed to stop. I read everything I could find on the topic. I just couldn't believe it happened. It didn't seem real. People everywhere were just stunned.
Such a shocking chain of events I'm blown away. I was born in 1980 in England so I had only heard and seen limited video. Now in the day of being able to look up anything on the internet I am blown away at things that happened. And Jack Ruby shooting lee and then getting the DP. So many lives ruined. And then Jo and JFK jr dieing is so tragic.
The way that the former kgb agent explains why they didn't think Oswald was a fbi or cia spy is hilarious. His face basically says "there is no way the cia would send an emotionally damaged incompetent person to spy on us"
Also pretty funny how the KGB claims Lee was a nutcase but admit they gave him the best apartment and highest pay in Minsk (also home to George de Mohrenshildt and a large KGB training base) and they also gave him a KGB wife🚩
Lee Oswald's "historical diary" was also written by the KGB ☝️
@@kxkxkxkx You seem to have LOTS of first hand inside knowledge. Are you Felix Lighter perhaps?
@@billolsen4360 Felix Leiter from James Bond? LOL no I just read a lot....
Best books on the subject are by Jim Hosty and Carlos Bringuier and Jim Angleton's ghostwriter (Edward j Epstein) ☝️ also Ion Pacepa and Petr Deriabin
@@kxkxkxkx I even spelled Felix' last name wrong! Will search out those books, tho. Thanks!!
@@kxkxkxkx How do you know that the KGB wrote Oswald's diary? And how do you know Marina was a KGB agent?
Tragic what people do to each-other
May you have a wonderful holiday season my friend 🕯️✌️
tragic what the CIA does to us all
Tragic what many did (or did not do) to powerless children.
Is just a tragic tragedy.
@@Karen-tp3hl Ouch! You're referring to absent fathers?
Such a strange story. Some of the details seem too coincidental to be a conspiracy and some of the details seem too coincidental to not be a conspiracy.
Hence why it’s been debated for 60 years
kindy like today Oswald was murdered in police custody any pedophoes u know
All I'll say is remember in 1971 FBI documents were leaked to the public, & it exposed the intelligence agency.
Studied this for years. The only liars you will find are the people promoting a conspiracy.
@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES There's no such thing as a "promoted conspiracy". It was a conspiracy. During the early days of the HSCA hearings in the 1970's, Senator Richard Schweiker met with chief counsel Robert Tannenbaum. He gave him a file on a "Maurice Bishop",who turned out to be David Atlee Phillips of the CIA. Schweiker told Tannenbaum that quote "After you read this file, you'll see the CIA killed JFK. Phillips also admitted to Mark Lane during a debate that Oswald was never in Mexico City.
A bullet fast enough to pass through two humans, breaking several bones on it's way, causing *five* wounds, but yet so slow that it ended up not being deformed.... I will never believe that.
The Shot that went threw JFK's upper back, started to tumble in the 3 feet between JFK and Connelly and entered his back sideways. It slowed down enough that it did damage to Connely's bones but not to the bullet itself. Simple.
@@johnadams5489 No
I suggest you watch NOVA case closed JFK it shows just how such a bullet could be done. It also show that bullet and it was deformed.
@SiljCBcnr for the life of me I still cannot understand why everyone on the planet continues to peddle this story that the second shot, the one that went through the presidents neck, was the one that hit Connally. I've watched Governor Connally interviewed at least three different times and he gives the same account.
He hears a shot, looks over his left shoulder where he heard it come from, begins to look the other way and is hit in the back. Felt like someones fist in his back.
Watch the Zupruder film. When Kennedy is hit in the neck, Connally turns around. He's fine. He goes to turn the other way when. . . the headshot. When Kennedy is hit in the head, the Governor doubles over forward in his seat as he is struck by the same bullet. It's the headshot that is the magic bullet.
No one wants to believe this for 2 reasons. 1) Those who support the Warren commission don't want to recognize this because the Warren Commission didn't review the Zupruder film and they concluded that the 2nd shot, the one through the neck, was the one that hit Connally. 2) Conspiracy theorists don't want to recognize this because if Connally was hit by the same round that went through the head of Kennedy the shot MUST have come from behind and not from the infamous grassy knoll.
@@johnadams5489 that 2nd shot did not hit the Governor. See my reply below.
Lee wanted to matter, to be somebody of great importance but he wasn't. He was an arm chair revolutionary.
Bingo ! You have it EXACTLY right Nicole. Appreciate your comments. Often the simplest, most boring, least interesting answer is the Truth.
Nobody kills the president of the US and a Dallas police officer and gives secret U2 fight data to the Russians from a chair.... Lee Oswald was one of the greatest KGB agents that ever lived, you hapless dupes 🤭
This is superb.
Frontline is the best! ❤️
Agree
The fact that Oswald was then immediately shot by a seedy guy (Ruby), as opposed to a Kennedy fan or something similar, shows me there’s something else going on behind the scenes. Personal opinion, of course.
Read up on Ruby , he loved HIS PRESIDENT JFK as he called him. Also, told a bunch of people he didn't want Jackie having to come back to Dallas for a trial. And yes he knew mobsters, and cops, lots of them.
@@DanC-go9lc Ruby was also extremely impulsive and violent. One time one of the customers at his strip club had stiffed a cab driver who had drove him to Ruby's club. When the cab driver came inside to try to collect his money Ruby got pissed off and threw the cab driver down a flight of stairs. When Ruby saw Oswald in the garage he had a smirk on his face. Ruby got pissed and that's when he pulled out his gun and shot Oswald.
Well according to Ruby’s sister, he was destroyed by the assassination. All weekend long she saw him often and said he was very broken up and emotionally agitated about it. He was a fan. Mr Lavelle who escorted Oswald down to the car where Ruby shot him, band Lavelle said he personally knew many people who said at the time that if they had the chance to shoot Oswald they would have. Nothing unusual about Ruby’s actions
Have to ask, what do you or we know about how or what kind of outrage Ruby was feeling at that time no matter if he was seedy at all. That nas nothing to do with a conspiracy and everyone is looking for a conspiracy but the simple fact is is that all it takes is 1 lone whack job a most people have a really tough time accepting that.
@@dansullivan8648 well, I was just answering AllThatRemains questionwho was saying that a seedy guy shot JFK, not a JFK fan, and that leads him to think conspiracy. I just said Ruby was a fan of JFK because of the testimony of his sister who knew him well and spent much of Nov 22 and 23rd with Ruby. This cuts down one of his conspiracy features. There was no conspiracy.Oswald did it alone.
I could not even remotely imagine the horror Mrs. Kennedy had to have suffered, she was just inches away, looking right at the President when the fatal shot struck him down.
She was never the same. She suffered from extreme paranoia ever sense. She married an old ass Italian billionaire who she could basically hunker down in a mansion offering her a fortress to protect her kids.
Ya life's a bitch
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I have a recording of this program on tape from the mid 90s. Some of this is not on the original recording and some of what was in the original recording was edited out. Parts about Ruby,information about the book First Day Evidence which, is where the unused photos of the trigger guard fingerprints are published etc. have been cut out of this.
@@aDistantLight I wish I knew how. Don't have internet at home.
This is the first time I've ever seen the autopsy photo of president kennedy' s head. Can't believe how choked up and physically nauseous I got.. this affected me 60 years ago and still does.
I wasn’t alive - this bothers me because I watched his wife pick up his brains from the back of that Cadillac - and I thought “I live in THIS country”? 🤦🏽♂️
I don't think that was his head And the video he got his head blown open The autopsy shows a man with nice fluffy hair
Jesus. You've had a cushy life, if that's true.
This...it was a Lincoln not a Caddy
"In Dealey Plaza it will always be November 22,1963." Go there and you will see and feel just how true that statement is.
This is the original conspiracy of our times. I don't think anything has ever had so much influence on American life.
So, after shooting at General Walker, LHO comes home is white and sweating. But 90 seconds after shooting Kennedy, he's completely calm. Sure.
Yea , couldn't even get a shot thru a window , at less than 100 feet . But , , from 6 floors up , , 265 (?) feet away , , moving Target , 2/3 hits . Food for thought , friends . . .
@BEWARE OF SEEKER FRIENDLY CHURCHES JESUS IS COMING Oh thank U for Sharing that , , should clear up All loose Ends regarding the JFK murder 🤯 , * SMH
@@johna8973 agree. He did not shot Kennedy. He was at the book deposit mess hall buying a coke.
A press conference with a murder suspect? Incredible
Ok. Your point?
@@NxDoyle platypus venom
Well they felt compelled to show Oswald to the public after the press printed rumours that he was being mistreated by Dallas police for being suspected of not only killing the president but one of their own , officer JD Tippit
And when you kill one of their own, cops are well known to mistreat you in some police departments.
@@NxDoyle The point is having the press piled into a police station and parading a suspect out in front of them would never happen today, hard to believe you can’t comprehend that.
"Welcome to Frontline, we hope you enjoy our bullshit, mixed with more bullshit, with a side of bullshit."
@Adam
Truth👍
I have no idea how people can watch Frontline's bullshit and beLIEve it.
Still a great documentary, done in the 90's when most everyone with first hand contact with Oswald and witnesses to the assassination were still alive, but there is another cut of it that is nearly an hour longer, with more content.
One thing that always just blew my mind broke my heart whatever you want to call it is when Jackie was sitting there and basically wearing his brains and part of his skull that had to have been just absolutely horrifying
blew his mind too
Her husband cheated on her with numerous other women. It makes what Bill Clinton did with Monica Lewinsky looks G rated. She put the hit out on JFK for his infidelities.
I wonder why Jackie didn't pull him down behind the seat so he was no longer exposed. She just didn't think quickly enough.
@@eameece She put the hit out on for cheating on her and banging all those other women. That's why she didn't pull him down
@@brandonsavitski She didn't put a hit out for him. That's a new conspiracy theory. There are thousands of such theories. Did you just make that one up?
It always to me seems as if there two Oswald's..they dont look like the same guy in every photo
No shit
there are at least four Trumps.
Excellent. I like the idea of re-examing this topic every few years, as new information surfaces or technology grants us the ability to analyze and understand things we previously could not. Anything that's "Fact" based and backed up by "Evidence" is always welcomed in my world. .
cia used to have stories planted in press to muddy the waters, spreading red herring stories to distract divert confuse the attention, keep people guessing & distrustful of, at odds with those holding opposing "truths''.
sure, but it isn't it a little deluded of the public when there is all kinds of evidence Bush was behind 911, when we have had 20 years to study that alone, and Bush was never charged for any of their crimes?
@Bobb Grimley the church commission ofv 1976 jackass. They told you
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troll troll troll ur boat mentally unsound extreme, scarily narrowly rarely fairly, ur life's an empty meme.
Oh God, Jackie how were you not insane after experiencing that horror?
she had dealt with a few tragedies by then. Stillborn daughter & a premature baby who died not long before this disaster. She was pretty strong.
@@billolsen4360 Seeing your husband's head explode is a different horror altogether. Miscarriages are sorrows. THAT, what I see in the video, up close....is a whole soldier in war type of unending nightmare. Ughhh
@@whoisdickieschnabel Mrs Lincoln had similar things happen to her, altho not as physically violent as JFK's injuries. She was mentally unable to function well for the rest of her life and lost all but one of her three children. 😢
@@billolsen4360 Don't go off script. Yes, other people elsewhere have seen atrocities. I'm talking about her and this situation. If you want to bring up other people, take it somewhere else. That's not what I'm referring to at this moment.
@@whoisdickieschnabel I can go "off script" as you call it any time I damn well please. Do you always try little tricks to control others?
If you’re going to commit such a crime why would you use a rifle that could be traced back to you? How did they know it was Oswald within minutes after the shooting?
They (CIA) planned the whole thing.
Oswald used a false name (A. Hidell) to order the rifle so that none of the FBI and CIA counterintelligence agents watching him would know that he was getting ready to shoot someone 💯
They knew it was Oswald right after the shooting because everyone knew the shots came from the TSBD and Oswald was the only person unaccounted for...
Shortly thereafter Marina Oswald told Ruth Paine that Lee had a rifle, which was missing.
This is the first time a non-KGB agent learned that Lee owned a gun 🇺🇸 Prior to that only Lee, Marina, George, and Kostikov knew about the rifle; all KGB agents
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Sounds like a setup to me.
Using that logic why would Oswald go to work and shoot Kennedy? He could have gone to several open buildings that day and shot Kennedy and never go to work
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Why would Oswald run? He used a fake name to buy the gun. He could have walked casually back to his work station and pretend he was innocent. They didn’t know at the time who shot Kennedy. He ran for a reason. He was being set-up.
One thing I notice this documentary displayed differently was Jack Ruby's attitude after shooting Oswald... In most films I've seen apparently he claims he "had no memory of doing it" and that he was declared to have a psychotic break when in the jail cell. In this it just seems like he was boasting and proud of what he did. The friend visiting him in jail part is hard to discount though.
@Garbage Ilearsi I think it was Jolly West who you quite rightly said was one of the leading doctors involved in MK ULTRA program, who a few years later had dealings with Charles Manson.
@Garbage Ilearsi Yup. There are way way way too many coincidences and big ones that aren't believable too be just coincidences.
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Vern still beating an empty conspiracy drum. Yawn.
@@johnadams5489 What kind of person would not be open to conspiracy? Dr. Burkley even said in a memo" Others besides Oswald must have participated".. He knew conspiracy from 3 different directions 1. Extra Bullet as seen by Dr. James Young details in Stone's new Documentary. 2. Saw back of head blown off. Knew JFK shot from the front 3. Signed Death Certificate with back wound at T3. Too low for ridiculous inane stupid and dishonest SBT.
Theirs a theory that the CIA gave him something or did some mind altering trick ala Sirhan Sirhan to him
so much for Dallas hospitality
you can thank the psychopathic 'Bush cult' for that.
Oswald was born in New Orleans, raised in NYC, and moved back to New Orleans, before moving to Ft Worth before the assassination. He was an outspoken Marxist, something that very, very few people in Dallas would tolerate if they knew his beliefs. To associate Oswald with Dallas is pure demagoguery.
@@dondrysdale7297 George H. W. Bush was a Yankee who attended Greenwich Country Day School from 1929 to 1937 and Phillips Academy, an elite private academy in Massachusetts, from 1937 to 1942. After WWII (where he was shot down twice flying missions) he attended Yale University. Later, he moved to West Texas (Midland/Odessa) to work as an oil field equipment salesman, not anywhere near Dallas. Don, it sounds like you have some personal pshycological problems.
When Oswald said, "I'm just a patsy", he was merely saying what the criminals say in countless movies and tv shows: "You can't find the real killer, so you're blaming it on me."
Wow what a documentary. 👏 all these years I thought Oliver stone was correct but pbs documentary has changed my mind
Oliver Stone is a liar and a fraud. There are over forty demonstrably fake things in his 1991 film... but at least he made good money off of it...
so basically you have a weak mind and are easily persuaded by whomever has the floor at a given time.
@@ellethekitten most people are...
weak i tell you
I was 8 at the time and living in southern Spain. We had a black and white TV set and on both channels the assassination was aired hours later. I did not understand what was happening, only that my parents were shocked to the core. My German mother cried and my Indonesian stepfather left the room to go outside, in order to smoke a cigarette. The staff in our home also went completely quiet. Later they told me, barely 18 years after WWII, that they feared the 3rd World War and this could be the rolling stone starting that nightmare.
Hard to imagine these days. But your family's reaction was probably the same everywhere in the world. Even Russians and sworn enemies respected the guy. I was 12 and those 3 days are still painful even now.
Yes, it was only LBJ that stopped the slide into nuclear War after KGB agent Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK 🇺🇸
Thank you Frontline! You never disappoint!
Whenever you hear Will Lyman say "tonight on Frontline", you know it's about to get riveting.
The guy that used to give Oswald a ride said he had a package it wasn't big enough to hold a rifle and in fact it had curtain rods. And if he didn't put the gun there then who did because someone had to
That model of rifle breaks down into two smaller parts, that is why Oswald was able to hide it from everyone (including Ruth Paine and James Hosty)
@@kxkxkxkx he said that he did not believe Oswald that it had curtains in it until he felt of it and he said it actually was curtains. And he had no reason to lie he didn't know Oswald for that long and he said if he killed the president he should be jailed for the rest of his life I don't believe those will shut it all I believe he was a Pepsi but this disproves that there was at least some conspiracy because someone had to bring the rifle to the building someone other than Oswald. He found it very difficult to bum rides to the corner store much less to his workplace on a non-work day.
@@danielwebster5748 anyone who thinks Oswald didn't do it is either a straight up loon or a disinformation agent actively obscuring the truth... there is no other possibility ☝️
Frazier said he had barely glanced at that package; then was overly sure of the length and that it was supposedly too short for the rifle. Frazier certainly didn't say the package contained curtain rods. Oswald had a rifle in Paine's garage, carried a long slender package into the TSBD, then the rifle was no longer in Paine's garage and was in the TSBD. Gee, I wonder what might have happened...
I've never seen Frontline's version of Oswald. This will be interesting. Thanks for the opportunity to view it.
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12:33 Oswald was the same age as me.
+ I was also at Atsugi Naval Air Station at the same time.
I bet you're glad you're you and he's him instead of the other way around think how lucky you are you could have been him
Maybe you killed the president. I've heard every other ridiculous conspiracy theory that blames everyone but Oswald. How did you avoid suspicion?
Any comment on the CIA angle?
@@RG-gk4yi Fiction.
are you cia as well?
I thought the number of historically incorrect images diminished the report with modern bases, modern freeways, touchstone pay phones, etc.. Still, Frontline asks questions that others don't. I always wondered how Oswald could defect to the U.S.S.R. and return to the U.S. during the height of the Cold War, and how he had the funds to do so. It should be noted that international travel was much more expensive in the early sixties than today. Why is so much information still sealed, classified, or redacted?
No real mystery, the answer to those questions is : *CIA*
And the explanation to the inefficacy of the War "Against" Drugs is: *CIA* and *Wall Street and Banksters.*
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Lots of people defected and came back once they saw that the "workers Paradise" was a Communist dictatorship. It was part of the cold war struggle. People always needed financial assistance to return from the USSR, because the Soviets only let them take about $20 with them on the way out!
The FBI and CIA knew that Lee and his wife were probably KGB spies, as indeed they were. That is why the FBI and CIA had files on Oswald and kept him under surveillance (Hosty, Paine, etc...)
And you can be certain that Lee was no American infiltration agent, because he was the very first US Marine to defect to the USSR ☝️
excellent documentary
Lee Harvey Oswald Was Turkish 🇹🇷