Thanks for the great video! I just purchased a dual fuel 5500W inverter Champion generator. I was able to get my hands on a large, plywood shipping container. I took it apart, removed all the 2 in brads, and am starting to cut and shape it to my gen. You have given me some great ideas...thanks again!
I just bought a Duromax 13000E a couple of months ago, and I have been obsessively pouring over gen shed vids. Yours is one of the best I have seen on a stick build. Thank you!
I have the large lifetime shed with 3 fans producing about 3,000 CFM and a Generac 17500 with a tri-fuel kit conversion currently using Gas or Propane. Bought a 2nd lifetime shed for 10 100lb bottles. Insulated it with rockwool mineral wool insulation. Happy to send you some pictures if you desire.
Looks good! I have a design close to yours. ) I did add a pair of Lift Support Struts Gas Spring Shocks to open the roof.( $15 for the pair Amazon). They make lifting easy & holds the roof up. The pair I used were rated to support weight 55-75lb. They make them different weight ranges. I actually weighed the roof piece before ordering them.Make sure you get the correct weight range to have them work the best.
Nice job. I have property in Southern Vermont. Definitely change the rubber propane hose to hard piping with minimal flex hose. I have had rodents chew through the hose quite a few times. Don't know what attracts them.
Thank for the video. Can you provide a link or P/N for the "Bell" weatherproof outlet? That's the part I need yet and cannot locate. I just need something to run the 230V cable out from my shed to house outlet.
Thanks for posting your exhaust method. I've seen 100s of videos and zoom in to that part of their builds. Some are just plain horrible/dangerous. Some are just ok. I like your method. For my Harbor Freight end exhaust I'm using a 1" flex exhaust tubing passing through a wall thimble that is packed with Roxul Safe n Sound.
Nice shed! I'm in the process of building mine from the icreatables plan for a 5ft -3in x 3ft-8 in. Of course I am making my own improvements. How did you do your hinged roof and framing of the roof? It's hard to see in the video.
I'm looking for specifications to the exhaust port to my Champion Power Equipment 200987 4500 generator Inverter. There is a flange number or something there and my generator (100lbs) is inside its vehicle box so its not easy to get to. I need to add an exhaust extension tube and some kits have a flange that replace the flange on the generator. That flange is specific in size, and part of determining if the kit will work is getting a number (88/89?) from the flange on the unit. So I was hoping you talked about the flange mounting area in detail to perhaps get this information from your video. I've used my generator a couple of times now (still new) and its quite liberating to be able to not need to start the vehicle engine for small things like running microwave or coffee maker. Though I have an inverter, it requires lots of DC power (many amps) that I didn't want to drain my solar batteries with or put strain on my vehicle generator. However, my box design is in progress, and totally need to include a exhaust extension kit to evacuate the exhaust completing out of the box. There is only about 5 inches or so to clear, but what I noticed is if any exhaust air does not evacuate cleanly out of the box, all it does is recirculate back into the box, and surrounding metal it hits and turns the entire box into a furnace like effect. No problem, just need to redirect all hot air completely using the extension tube kit so it exist the box. I also have an aftermarket radiator fan (weather proof) I'll add to evacuate air outward as well. It is 12 vdc, so I will simply use the 12dc outs on the generator. When generator starts, it will activate the 12dc power port, and subsequently, the fan or fans (maybe one at designated key points of exhaust interest). Thanks for putting the video together. Also, I recommend the metal pipe style fitting to the propane tanks. My brother has had rats eat at parts of his engine in California. The harbor in the engine at night and nibble away on any material they can chew on.
Very good and very thought out except the wood on top of the backer board, you should cut a section of that outer sheathing around the exhaust by about 6 inches all the way around
How did you connect the 3" , 90-elbow...to the generator? It seems you just used a series of screws around the perimiter of the 3" , 90, and even then, did you use an additional flange where the screws touch?.....also, was there a connection to the outlet somewhere "inside" where we can't see, right at the gen exit?
Thanks for posting this, Taylor! I just bought the tri-fuel version and didn't realize that the exhaust comes out the "back" on these instead of the right side like most generators. I've been scratching my head over how to extend the exhaust out of the shed. Your solution looks like a good one! One question: how exactly does the 90 attach to the generator? Did you drill pilot holes into the muffler body for the little sheet metal screws? Thx.
Hey Steve! I used a small drill bit while holding the 90 flush to the exhaust to grab that tiny flange from the heat shield that sticks outwards. Then just used some 5/16 sheet metal screws through those predrilled holes to attach. Theres not much "meat" to grab, but it seems to work well. The 90 outside the shed I used a single sheet metal screw through the top of the dryer vent hood (remove the flapper so the 90 fits smoothly!). Hope it works well for you!
@@mikejoyce7157 Yes, in fact I had to abandon the idea and instead go for black pipe. That temperature at the turns are just too much for the silicone and quickly degrades its integrity at the first 90 bend.
TAYLOR..... if you see this I have a question for you. So I bought the westinghouse igen4500df generator and it came with a small soft hose and a regulator to hook up to propane but I was told only use a small 20 lb grill tank. I wanted to use a 100lb tank but was told it had to be a certain water table pressure or some weird shit. Did you ever here that or did you have a problem useing 100lb tank with the stock hose that came with your generator. Thanks for any help you can give me... I'm new to your channel and I did subscribe
Hey eddiekytia! I can't speak to your situation unfortunately. When it comes to gas and head pressures/ temperatures and regulators I am no expert and would certainly not be able to offer any advice. Maybe check with a gasfitter or plumber, someone will have answers for you! Best of luck, -Taylor
Factcheck (lol) I'm not sure I'd consider my set up to be an extension as the diameter of the pellet pipe is so much larger than the exhaust on the generator. It's more or less just a duct to direct the heat and exhaust gasses outside. I don't think this makes any drag inside the muffler so the engine doesnt have to work any harder to push the exhaust out. I've seen some other guys use black pipe thats a similar or same diameter as the exhaust on the motor to exit the shed. I think that's more likely to cause heat issues internally in the cylinder. Luckily I haven't had to use this set up for any extended period of time. I just fire it up every month or 2 for 30 minutes or so, but have not had any heat issues. Hope this helps!
@@taylorbuildsandfixesstuff8796 Good info, thanks. I'm thinking of running my generator in an 8' x 8' shed with a normal-height window, and using a 3" aluminum dryer hose to move the heat and CO out through the shed wall.
Hey Tom, I'm not sure! Fortunately I have not had to put this unit to a long term test. I believe most propane generators will use a 20lb (4.5ish gallons?) bottle in around 5 hours. So sounds like a close to a gallon per hour. 100lb tank holds like 24 gallons. So presumably 48 hours. But it's also going to depend on the load. Hope this helps!
You need to rework the shed. It needs a floor and Interior baffles. You have too many openinigs.. Close off the one at the top beside the building. Hard pipe Propane immediately before rodents chew the line.
Hey Gord, thanks for the comment. What are your concerns with the floor? Pressure treated 4x4s covered by pressure treated 2x4s. I also used metal screen stapled across the top of the floor to keep rodents/bees ect out. The PT 4x4's are also raised off the ground on patio pavers. As far as too many openings, what's the concern there? The vents are screened attic soffit vent and I figured the more air I can move in there the better, no? What are interior baffles?The purpose of the video was really to show how I exhausted the generator since I didn't really find anything I considered safe online. There's quite a few other videos with idea's on how to build a shed but that really wasn't my goal here. I also am not an engineer and I welcome and appreciate any input to aid in the safe operation of this unit including the propane tanks/propane lines or fire prevention. Thanks Gord!
@@taylorbuildsandfixesstuff8796 If there was a Solid floor, I believe it would cut down considerably on the Noise. Baffles inside at 90° would also curtail the noise somewhat. Put them in front of Openings, 4" away. Noise does not like to turn corners. Nice job on building. Check out some others re noise reduction. Hard piping and moving the Propane tanks 10' away would be a good safety move. Perhaps you could run the flex Propane hose inside conduit to keep rodents from chewing it. I have a 14kw standby Generac that I am considering some sort of noise reduction as well. You could put 4" rock wool between Vertical studding. It is fireproof. You would need to do the roof too.
Honestly not my favorite spot for them either Doug. In the future I may switch my oil furnace to propane and bury a large propane container in the yard with stems for a grill and the generator. The way I see it here is its better than running the generator on gasoline (the gas tank is sitting on top of the generator which just seems like a bad idea to me), so I figure for the *hopefully* limited use of the backup generator it's adequate and safe. I leveled some patio pavers and used a bike lock to both keep them locked and prevent them from tipping over. What would your recommendation be?
Everything you did on your video was great; EXCEPT for your constantly; annoying and incessant shaking of your camera. Oh well! When will most people understand: that the eye; does not like shaking of the picture; when we are trying to really learn things. Please...have mercy!...PUT it on a tripod, and move it now and then. But do NOT record while you are moving it. Please kind Sir! Really!
I'm certainly no cinematographer and filmed this on a cheap cell phone. I hope you gained something from the video and I'll keep it in mind for my next video. God bless
Thanks for the great video! I just purchased a dual fuel 5500W inverter Champion generator. I was able to get my hands on a large, plywood shipping container. I took it apart, removed all the 2 in brads, and am starting to cut and shape it to my gen. You have given me some great ideas...thanks again!
I just bought a Duromax 13000E a couple of months ago, and I have been obsessively pouring over gen shed vids.
Yours is one of the best I have seen on a stick build. Thank you!
I have the large lifetime shed with 3 fans producing about 3,000 CFM and a Generac 17500 with a tri-fuel kit conversion currently using Gas or Propane. Bought a 2nd lifetime shed for 10 100lb bottles. Insulated it with rockwool mineral wool insulation. Happy to send you some pictures if you desire.
I Really appreciate When people using Wood to build a Generator Shed..... it's just look better 👍💪👍
This is the best one that I've found online - tyvm!
Looks good! I have a design close to yours. ) I did add a pair of Lift Support Struts Gas Spring Shocks to open the roof.( $15 for the pair Amazon). They make lifting easy & holds the roof up. The pair I used were rated to support weight 55-75lb. They make them different weight ranges. I actually weighed the roof piece before ordering them.Make sure you get the correct weight range to have them work the best.
Nice build! Really good job
Nice job. I have property in Southern Vermont. Definitely change the rubber propane hose to hard piping with minimal flex hose. I have had rodents chew through the hose quite a few times. Don't know what attracts them.
Could you list all of your items that you used for this please?
Great job.
Thank for the video. Can you provide a link or P/N for the "Bell" weatherproof outlet? That's the part I need yet and cannot locate. I just need something to run the 230V cable out from my shed to house outlet.
Thanks for posting your exhaust method. I've seen 100s of videos and zoom in to that part of their builds. Some are just plain horrible/dangerous. Some are just ok. I like your method.
For my Harbor Freight end exhaust I'm using a 1" flex exhaust tubing passing through a wall thimble that is packed with Roxul Safe n Sound.
Nice shed! I'm in the process of building mine from the icreatables plan for a 5ft -3in x 3ft-8 in. Of course I am making my own improvements. How did you do your hinged roof and framing of the roof? It's hard to see in the video.
I'm looking for specifications to the exhaust port to my Champion Power Equipment 200987 4500 generator Inverter. There is a flange number or something there and my generator (100lbs) is inside its vehicle box so its not easy to get to. I need to add an exhaust extension tube and some kits have a flange that replace the flange on the generator. That flange is specific in size, and part of determining if the kit will work is getting a number (88/89?) from the flange on the unit. So I was hoping you talked about the flange mounting area in detail to perhaps get this information from your video.
I've used my generator a couple of times now (still new) and its quite liberating to be able to not need to start the vehicle engine for small things like running microwave or coffee maker. Though I have an inverter, it requires lots of DC power (many amps) that I didn't want to drain my solar batteries with or put strain on my vehicle generator.
However, my box design is in progress, and totally need to include a exhaust extension kit to evacuate the exhaust completing out of the box. There is only about 5 inches or so to clear, but what I noticed is if any exhaust air does not evacuate cleanly out of the box, all it does is recirculate back into the box, and surrounding metal it hits and turns the entire box into a furnace like effect.
No problem, just need to redirect all hot air completely using the extension tube kit so it exist the box.
I also have an aftermarket radiator fan (weather proof) I'll add to evacuate air outward as well. It is 12 vdc, so I will simply use the 12dc outs on the generator. When generator starts, it will activate the 12dc power port, and subsequently, the fan or fans (maybe one at designated key points of exhaust interest).
Thanks for putting the video together.
Also, I recommend the metal pipe style fitting to the propane tanks. My brother has had rats eat at parts of his engine in California. The harbor in the engine at night and nibble away on any material they can chew on.
Very good and very thought out except the wood on top of the backer board, you should cut a section of that outer sheathing around the exhaust by about 6 inches all the way around
Do you have a list of what you used for exhaust
How did you connect the 3" , 90-elbow...to the generator? It seems you just used a series of screws around the perimiter of the 3" , 90, and even then, did you use an additional flange where the screws touch?.....also, was there a connection to the outlet somewhere "inside" where we can't see, right at the gen exit?
I just got a Westinghouse generator and have to route my exhaust and fine no kits. Your video gives me ideas. I live in south Florida.
How do you maintain your battery for starter
I run the generator for 20 mins every month or 2 and haven't had trouble with the battery. Hope this vid helps you out! Thanks
How long will it run on those two propane tanks?
Nice
Me too......Most of everything from Home Depot and Lowes and Amazon....😂👍😅
Any problems with the Carbon Monoxide sensor shutting it down?
Where did you get the tan and does it plug directly into the generator?
How did you attach it to the generator the 90 elbow
Thanks for posting this, Taylor! I just bought the tri-fuel version and didn't realize that the exhaust comes out the "back" on these instead of the right side like most generators. I've been scratching my head over how to extend the exhaust out of the shed. Your solution looks like a good one! One question: how exactly does the 90 attach to the generator? Did you drill pilot holes into the muffler body for the little sheet metal screws? Thx.
Hey Steve!
I used a small drill bit while holding the 90 flush to the exhaust to grab that tiny flange from the heat shield that sticks outwards. Then just used some 5/16 sheet metal screws through those predrilled holes to attach. Theres not much "meat" to grab, but it seems to work well. The 90 outside the shed I used a single sheet metal screw through the top of the dryer vent hood (remove the flapper so the 90 fits smoothly!). Hope it works well for you!
Similar challenge for my design. I went with high temp silicone exhaust tubing.
@@wingloading
Is the engine exhaust more than 464* ?
@@mikejoyce7157 Yes, in fact I had to abandon the idea and instead go for black pipe. That temperature at the turns are just too much for the silicone and quickly degrades its integrity at the first 90 bend.
@@wingloading
Gotcha. I'm using a 1" flex pipe through a wall thimble.
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TAYLOR..... if you see this I have a question for you. So I bought the westinghouse igen4500df generator and it came with a small soft hose and a regulator to hook up to propane but I was told only use a small 20 lb grill tank. I wanted to use a 100lb tank but was told it had to be a certain water table pressure or some weird shit. Did you ever here that or did you have a problem useing 100lb tank with the stock hose that came with your generator. Thanks for any help you can give me... I'm new to your channel and I did subscribe
Hey eddiekytia!
I can't speak to your situation unfortunately. When it comes to gas and head pressures/ temperatures and regulators I am no expert and would certainly not be able to offer any advice. Maybe check with a gasfitter or plumber, someone will have answers for you!
Best of luck,
-Taylor
Did u build the shed ?
Champion says they don't recommend an exhaust extension because it could overheat the engine. Have you had any issues with heat?
Factcheck (lol) I'm not sure I'd consider my set up to be an extension as the diameter of the pellet pipe is so much larger than the exhaust on the generator. It's more or less just a duct to direct the heat and exhaust gasses outside. I don't think this makes any drag inside the muffler so the engine doesnt have to work any harder to push the exhaust out. I've seen some other guys use black pipe thats a similar or same diameter as the exhaust on the motor to exit the shed. I think that's more likely to cause heat issues internally in the cylinder. Luckily I haven't had to use this set up for any extended period of time. I just fire it up every month or 2 for 30 minutes or so, but have not had any heat issues. Hope this helps!
@@taylorbuildsandfixesstuff8796 Good info, thanks. I'm thinking of running my generator in an 8' x 8' shed with a normal-height window, and using a 3" aluminum dryer hose to move the heat and CO out through the shed wall.
How long will it run on two 100lbs propane tanks
Hey Tom,
I'm not sure! Fortunately I have not had to put this unit to a long term test. I believe most propane generators will use a 20lb (4.5ish gallons?) bottle in around 5 hours. So sounds like a close to a gallon per hour. 100lb tank holds like 24 gallons. So presumably 48 hours. But it's also going to depend on the load. Hope this helps!
What kind of Temperature is it running inside
He said in the video 70 degrees with an outside air temp of 60.
Like tohesr
You need to rework the shed. It needs a floor and Interior baffles. You have too many openinigs.. Close off the one at the top beside the building. Hard pipe Propane immediately before rodents chew the line.
Hey Gord, thanks for the comment. What are your concerns with the floor? Pressure treated 4x4s covered by pressure treated 2x4s. I also used metal screen stapled across the top of the floor to keep rodents/bees ect out. The PT 4x4's are also raised off the ground on patio pavers. As far as too many openings, what's the concern there? The vents are screened attic soffit vent and I figured the more air I can move in there the better, no? What are interior baffles?The purpose of the video was really to show how I exhausted the generator since I didn't really find anything I considered safe online. There's quite a few other videos with idea's on how to build a shed but that really wasn't my goal here. I also am not an engineer and I welcome and appreciate any input to aid in the safe operation of this unit including the propane tanks/propane lines or fire prevention. Thanks Gord!
@@taylorbuildsandfixesstuff8796 If there was a Solid floor, I believe it would cut down considerably on the Noise. Baffles inside at 90° would also curtail the noise somewhat. Put them in front of Openings, 4" away. Noise does not like to turn corners. Nice job on building. Check out some others re noise reduction. Hard piping and moving the Propane tanks 10' away would be a good safety move. Perhaps you could run the flex Propane hose inside conduit to keep rodents from chewing it. I have a 14kw standby Generac that I am considering some sort of noise reduction as well. You could put 4" rock wool between Vertical studding. It is fireproof. You would need to do the roof too.
I THINK ALL OF THE NAILS EXPOSED THROUGH THAT OVERHEAD ROOF ARE A BIG ENOUGH DETERRENT AGAINST THEFT….👀
That generator is too close to the house. Now they recommend that the generators be placed 20 feet away from your house because of carbon monoxide.
Not where I would secure my propane tanks
Honestly not my favorite spot for them either Doug. In the future I may switch my oil furnace to propane and bury a large propane container in the yard with stems for a grill and the generator. The way I see it here is its better than running the generator on gasoline (the gas tank is sitting on top of the generator which just seems like a bad idea to me), so I figure for the *hopefully* limited use of the backup generator it's adequate and safe. I leveled some patio pavers and used a bike lock to both keep them locked and prevent them from tipping over. What would your recommendation be?
@@taylorbuildsandfixesstuff8796 Where did you get those propane tanks?
@@JaeHPark-so7dy They are referred to as 100 lb propane tanks. I bought those ones at Tractor Supply Co.
Everything you did on your video was great; EXCEPT for your constantly; annoying and incessant shaking of your camera. Oh well!
When will most people understand: that the eye; does not like shaking of the picture; when we are trying to really learn things. Please...have mercy!...PUT it on a tripod, and move it now and then. But do NOT record while you are moving it. Please kind Sir! Really!
I'm certainly no cinematographer and filmed this on a cheap cell phone. I hope you gained something from the video and I'll keep it in mind for my next video. God bless
I watched it twice and didn't notice any shaking. Perhaps it's your high blood pressure.